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Agravan
08-13-2013, 09:06 AM
August 13, 2013 Another Obamacare requirement is 'disappeared' by the administrationRick Moran
Like Chilean leftists under Allende, there have been several requirements of Obamacare that have been "disappeared" by the administration. The employer mandate has been delayed a year - at least. There have been other requirements of the law that are technically impossible (http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/is-obamacare-in-trouble-20130404) to fulfill at this time.

And now we have another biggie - the unilateral removal of limits on yearly out of pocket health care costs that insurance companies could charge individuals and families.

The Hill: (http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/316747-administration-delays-obamacare-cap-on-out-of-pocket-costs)


The Obama administration has delayed a key provision in President Obama's healthcare reform law that would limit out-of-pocket insurance costs for consumers until 2015.
The cap, which includes deductibles and co-payments, was supposed to limit consumer costs to $6,350 for an individual and $12,700 for a family. But administration officials have quietly delayed the requirement for some insurers, allowing them to set their own limits starting in 2014.
The delay has been outlined on the Labor Department's website since February, but went largely unnoticed.
The move is the latest setback in the administration's efforts to implement ObamaCare, the president's signature domestic achievement. Last month the administration decided to delay the law's employer mandate which forces large businesses to provide healthcare coverage or pay penalties.
An administration official defended the move to delay the cost caps, telling the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/us/a-limit-on-consumer-costs-is-delayed-in-health-care-law.html?hp) that insurance companies which used different computer systems and companies to administer coverage needed time to comply.
"We knew this was an important issue," the official said. "We had to balance the interests of consumers with the concerns of health plan sponsors and carriers, which told us that their computer systems were not set up to aggregate all of a person's out-of-pocket costs. They asked for more time to comply."
The delay on cost caps is sure to fuel GOP efforts to discredit and defund the president's healthcare law.
"Time to comply"? Obamacare has been the law of the land for three years - three years! What have these people been doing? Sure it's difficult to change a computer system. But couldn't they have started 2 years ago? Why are they suddenly running out of time?
Once again, we are faced with an executive override of clear, congressional intent. If the insurance companies aren't ready to comply with the law then fine them, shut them down, or delay Obamacare until they are able to obey the law. It's a no brainer - except that political and PR considerations are too pressing to obey the congress. Instead, actions of questionable constitutionality are taken by the executive branch who are picking and choosing what parts of the law to enfoce and who delayed much of the planning for implementation of Obamacare until after the 2012 elections.
The public is going to want answers to questions about the administration's actions in implementing this gargantuan law.











http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/08/another_obamacare_requirement_is_disappeared_by_th e_administration.html

Venus
08-13-2013, 09:12 AM
This was a big selling point of the healthcare law.


But in reality....



Advocates for patients said the promise of the law was being deferred. “We have wonderful new drugs, the biologics, to treat rheumatoid arthritis (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/rheumatoid-arthritis/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier), but they are extremely expensive,” said Dr. Patience H. White, a vice president of the Arthritis Foundation. “In the past, patients had to live in constant pain, often became disabled and had to leave their jobs. The new drugs can make a huge difference, and we were hoping that the cap on out-of-pocket costs would make them affordable. But now many patients will have to wait another year.”

The American Cancer Society shares the concern and noted that some new cancer drugs cost $100,000 a year or more.“If a prescription drug plan does not currently have a limit, then it will not have to have one in 2014,” said Molly Daniels, deputy president of the lobbying arm of the American Cancer Society. “Patients who require expensive drugs could continue to have enormous financial exposure, despite the clear intent of the law to limit a patient’s total out-of-pocket exposure.”

Venus
08-13-2013, 09:13 AM
Isn't this like the 10th part of Obamacare that's been delayed?

Agravan
08-13-2013, 09:17 AM
That's what happens when you push thru an abomination without bothering to read it.

Mainecoons
08-13-2013, 09:17 AM
This law is a boondoggle of truly Herculean proportion and the Democrats know full well it will nuke them in 2014 if not basically delayed beyond the election.

The Republicans are stupid beyond belief not to haul them into court and make them implement the law. Instead, Bonehead keeps passing repeal bills.

The dishonesty of the Democrats is only exceeded by the stupidity of the Republicans. How in God's name did America end up being hostage to these two parties?

ptif219
08-13-2013, 09:49 AM
This means no caps which means the middle class will once again get screwed by Obama. Sounds like Obama is once again on the side of the big insurance companies

Venus
08-13-2013, 10:48 AM
This means no caps which means the middle class will once again get screwed by Obama. Sounds like Obama is once again on the side of the big insurance companies


Insurance companies help write the law.

Matty
08-13-2013, 03:49 PM
I posted this early this AM. Liberals didn't wanna hear it then and they don't want to hear it now.



:owned:

ptif219
08-13-2013, 05:20 PM
Insurance companies help write the law.

Which means Obama is in their pocket and the middle class gets screwed as always by Obama

Venus
08-13-2013, 05:29 PM
Which means Obama is in their pocket and the middle class gets screwed as always by Obama

I'm shocked!

Not really

countryboy
08-13-2013, 06:05 PM
August 13, 2013 Another Obamacare requirement is 'disappeared' by the administration

Rick Moran
Like Chilean leftists under Allende, there have been several requirements of Obamacare that have been "disappeared" by the administration. The employer mandate has been delayed a year - at least. There have been other requirements of the law that are technically impossible (http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/is-obamacare-in-trouble-20130404) to fulfill at this time.

And now we have another biggie - the unilateral removal of limits on yearly out of pocket health care costs that insurance companies could charge individuals and families.

The Hill: (http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/316747-administration-delays-obamacare-cap-on-out-of-pocket-costs)

The Obama administration has delayed a key provision in President Obama's healthcare reform law that would limit out-of-pocket insurance costs for consumers until 2015.
The cap, which includes deductibles and co-payments, was supposed to limit consumer costs to $6,350 for an individual and $12,700 for a family. But administration officials have quietly delayed the requirement for some insurers, allowing them to set their own limits starting in 2014.
The delay has been outlined on the Labor Department's website since February, but went largely unnoticed.
The move is the latest setback in the administration's efforts to implement ObamaCare, the president's signature domestic achievement. Last month the administration decided to delay the law's employer mandate which forces large businesses to provide healthcare coverage or pay penalties.
An administration official defended the move to delay the cost caps, telling the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/us/a-limit-on-consumer-costs-is-delayed-in-health-care-law.html?hp) that insurance companies which used different computer systems and companies to administer coverage needed time to comply.
"We knew this was an important issue," the official said. "We had to balance the interests of consumers with the concerns of health plan sponsors and carriers, which told us that their computer systems were not set up to aggregate all of a person's out-of-pocket costs. They asked for more time to comply."
The delay on cost caps is sure to fuel GOP efforts to discredit and defund the president's healthcare law.

"Time to comply"? Obamacare has been the law of the land for three years - three years! What have these people been doing? Sure it's difficult to change a computer system. But couldn't they have started 2 years ago? Why are they suddenly running out of time?
Once again, we are faced with an executive override of clear, congressional intent. If the insurance companies aren't ready to comply with the law then fine them, shut them down, or delay Obamacare until they are able to obey the law. It's a no brainer - except that political and PR considerations are too pressing to obey the congress. Instead, actions of questionable constitutionality are taken by the executive branch who are picking and choosing what parts of the law to enfoce and who delayed much of the planning for implementation of Obamacare until after the 2012 elections.
The public is going to want answers to questions about the administration's actions in implementing this gargantuan law.










http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/08/another_obamacare_requirement_is_disappeared_by_th e_administration.html
What gives the executive branch the power to alter legislation at will?

Peter1469
08-13-2013, 06:15 PM
Insurance companies help write the law.


They had no choice. Basically they are getting 3-4 years to maximize profits before they are forced out of business.

Venus
08-13-2013, 06:29 PM
They had no choice. Basically they are getting 3-4 years to maximize profits before they are forced out of business.

Next step closer to a single payer system

In a couple of years we'll be talking about the child who was denied a heart transplant because it isn't cost effective not because he didn't take his medication or make his appointments.

Or he'll die before they can get him on the operating table.

Peter1469
08-13-2013, 06:57 PM
Next step closer to a single payer system

In a couple of years we'll be talking about the child who was denied a heart transplant because it isn't cost effective not because he didn't take his medication or make his appointments.

Or he'll die before they can get him on the operating table.

That is the future.

ptif219
08-13-2013, 10:01 PM
The rules for that are here

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/15183921-dying-teen-denied-heart-transplant-because-of-bad-grades-and-runins-with-the-law-video