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Cigar
08-16-2013, 01:08 PM
The YouToons Get Ready for Obamacare


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JZkk6ueZt-U

...and now The Truth about Obamacare

:grin: 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... :riot:

Boris The Animal
08-16-2013, 01:32 PM
More communist propaganda.

Cigar
08-16-2013, 01:35 PM
:smiley_ROFLMAO: That's it ... no substance ... just like the Repeal and Replace

IT's Law ... so you can't Repeal it, and yea never had any idea's to Replace anything.

Boris The Animal
08-16-2013, 01:36 PM
:smiley_ROFLMAO: That's it ... no substance ... just like the Repeal and Replace

IT's Law ... so you can't Repeal it, and yea never had any idea's to Replace anything.
How about get the frigging government out of healthcare in the first place, Bolshevik.

GrassrootsConservative
08-16-2013, 01:41 PM
1/10th of Americans will not be covered at all? 1:09 or so.

Kalkin
08-16-2013, 01:43 PM
IT's Law ... so you can't Repeal it,

Yeah, laws never get repealed. I'll drink to that... :smiley_ROFLMAO:

GrassrootsConservative
08-16-2013, 01:46 PM
:smiley_ROFLMAO: That's it ... no substance ... just like the Repeal and Replace

IT's Law ... so you can't Repeal it, and yea never had any idea's to Replace anything.


Don't ask don't tell was a law too.

nic34
08-16-2013, 01:49 PM
How about get the frigging government out of healthcare in the first place, Bolshevik.

How about we get rid of profiting on people's health........ facist.

Boris The Animal
08-16-2013, 01:52 PM
How about we get rid of profiting on people's health........ facist.You seem to forget, my historically atrophied Liberal drone, it was Democrats that enacted this bullshit in the first place with the HMOs and such.

Boris The Animal
08-16-2013, 01:54 PM
How about we get rid of profiting on people's health........ facist.And I see what you ultimately want, Bolshevik, is a Soviet-Style assembly line piss poor healthcare system in the US with zero innovation and R&D because you would prefer to eliminate the "undesirables".

GrassrootsConservative
08-16-2013, 01:55 PM
How about we get rid of profiting on people's health........ facist.

I agree, but it's too late. Obama already profited votes from people's health..... and the FASCIST (Spell it right next time you call someone that. You'll look like less of an ignoramus) here is the one who wants everyone to have healthcare. Nobody can be different. Everyone MUST conform... fascist!

Kalkin
08-16-2013, 01:55 PM
How about we get rid of profiting on people's health........ facist.
No one is forcing sick people to seek treatment, they do it voluntarily. Don't like the price? Don't buy the product.

nic34
08-16-2013, 02:07 PM
No one is forcing sick people to seek treatment, they do it voluntarily. Don't like the price? Don't buy the product.

Sure they do. The cops always ask an accident victim if they have insurance, and if they don't they're left on the street.

No matter, your tax dollars go to pay the street sweeper too......

zelmo1234
08-16-2013, 02:08 PM
How about we get rid of profiting on people's health........ facist.

That sound great? But then why would I invest in providing healthcare or becoming a doctor?

Who will own the hospitals?

weather you would like to believe it or not being a Doctor is a tuff job, and if there is no money in it why would people put themselves through the hell and expense of becoming one!

Cigar
08-16-2013, 02:10 PM
That sound great? But then why would I invest in providing healthcare or becoming a doctor?

Who will own the hospitals?

weather you would like to believe it or not being a Doctor is a tuff job, and if there is no money in it why would people put themselves through the hell and expense of becoming one!

The same reasons why the people who taught them did.

Cigar
08-16-2013, 02:11 PM
That sound great? But then why would I invest in providing healthcare or becoming a doctor?

Who will own the hospitals?

weather you would like to believe it or not being a Doctor is a tuff job, and if there is no money in it why would people put themselves through the hell and expense of becoming one!

Maybe they like healing people.

nic34
08-16-2013, 02:22 PM
That sound great? But then why would I invest in providing healthcare or becoming a doctor?

Who will own the hospitals?

weather you would like to believe it or not being a Doctor is a tuff job, and if there is no money in it why would people put themselves through the hell and expense of becoming one!

Doctors’ incomes would change little, though the disparity in income between specialties would shrink. The need for a “wallet biopsy” before treatment would be eliminated; time currently wasted on administrative duties could be channeled into providing care; and clinical decisions would no longer be dictated by insurance company policy.

The massive numbers of administrative personnel needed to handle itemized billing to thousands of private insurance plans would no longer be needed. A negotiated “global budget” would cover operating expenses. Budgets for capital would be allocated separately based on health care priorities. Hospitals would no longer close because of unpaid bills.

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/what-is-single-payer

Mainecoons
08-16-2013, 04:51 PM
Do you ever read anything besides leftist advocacy sites?

Care to tell the folks what PNHP stands for?

"Physicians for a National Health Program"

Now in actuality, how many doctors really belong to this organization? It also includes "health care professionals."

Try not to be so gullible, Nic.

Kalkin
08-16-2013, 05:03 PM
No matter, your tax dollars go to pay the street sweeper too......
No matter to you, that is, because you're most likely on the receiving end of the tax system.... ;)

peoshi
08-16-2013, 06:24 PM
Sure they do. The cops always ask an accident victim if they have insurance, and if they don't they're left on the street.

No matter, your tax dollars go to pay the street sweeper too......
The "cops" ask if you have auto insurance not health insurance,genius.
Do you think for some reason that they wait and see if the victim has health insurance before dispatching an ambulance?
What if the victim is unconscious?

keymanjim
08-16-2013, 07:45 PM
How about we get rid of profiting on people's health........ facist.
So, health food stores should be run as non profits?

Professor Peabody
08-17-2013, 02:46 AM
Obama Care will cause up to 65 million (http://waysandmeans.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=294468) of the working middle class with good company sponsored health care plans to be tossed into the crappy plans of the exchanges. My Ex works for Wally World, been there a long time. She pay $400 a month with a $20 co-pay for everything except for $50 for ER and $100 for Hospitalization and she's done, NO additional cost. There isn't a plan in the exchanges that comes close even with the subsidies.

http://nebula.wsimg.com/20810150c616114ded2a7c345e8ddff9?AccessKeyId=77DBD 65C34B8F60DAFA2&disposition=0

Even the Platinum Plan doesn't come close. According to the rate calculator (http://www.coveredca.com/calculating_the_cost.html) at her income level approx $41,000 her estimated monthly premium would be $586 a month without subsidy for the SILVER PLAN. Now look up at the chart above at coverage for the silver plan. With the Government $260 subsidy it would be $326 a month. The coverages are no where near what she was getting through the huge group of her company sponsored plan. That's IF the Government doesn't start dropping the subsidy little by little, shifting more an more cost to her. There is no platinum plan rate calculator, only silver. How happy is she going to be when for $74 a month less she get that much less for the money? Now multiply her by up to 65 million others in her place and you can envision the "train wreck" Max Baucus (D) spoke of. I say let 'er rip. The Republicans only need 14 out of the 21 Democrat seat up in the Senate and 27 more in the House to get an Obama Veto proof majority. Considering the Democrats lost 69 seats in Congress for just voting Obama Care into law, when it belly flops into up to 65 Million People's lives (http://waysandmeans.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=294468) that could lose their Employer-Sponsored Coverage........well it ain't looking to good for Democrats in 2014.

fyrenza
08-17-2013, 05:59 AM
Sure they do. The cops always ask an accident victim if they have insurance, and if they don't they're left on the street.

No matter, your tax dollars go to pay the street sweeper too......

That is a ridiculous statement, and I'd like to see a link to whatever you're using as your "proof," please?

Agravan
08-17-2013, 09:04 AM
Love the last line in the video ;" Hospitals will get paid less, but hey,someone's got to pay for it."

hell, we'll all be paying for it eventually.

Agravan
08-17-2013, 09:06 AM
That is a ridiculous statement, and I'd like to see a link to whatever you're using as your "proof," please?

Nic always goes extreme left on his rants. Think of the evilest Republican stereotype you can imagine and Nic will believe it to be the norm.
Nic has little, to no, capacity for rational thought.

Mister D
08-17-2013, 09:14 AM
Sure they do. The cops always ask an accident victim if they have insurance, and if they don't they're left on the street.

No matter, your tax dollars go to pay the street sweeper too......

You don't seriously believe that do you?

Agravan
08-17-2013, 09:55 AM
You don't seriously believe that do you?

Yeah, he does.

patrickt
08-17-2013, 11:00 AM
The OP is to truth as Barack Obama is to transparency.

patrickt
08-17-2013, 11:03 AM
Sure they do. The cops always ask an accident victim if they have insurance, and if they don't they're left on the street.

No matter, your tax dollars go to pay the street sweeper too......

I was a cop for thirty years. That is either a lie or the mostly incredibly stupid statement you've ever made.

Of course, if liberals couldn't lie there would be no political discourse, would there? Liberals can't tell the truth or they'd never win an election. President Obama just made a speech talking about the "free" services you get with Obamacare. Just think, it doesn't have to be paid for. The doctors and nurses an pharmicists and drug companies and orderlies are all working for nothing. No salary for them. Of course, the government bureaucrats will get paid.

Agravan
08-17-2013, 11:20 AM
I was a cop for thirty years. That is either a lie or the mostly incredibly stupid statement you've ever made.

Of course, if liberals couldn't lie there would be no political discourse, would there? Liberals can't tell the truth or they'd never win an election. President Obama just made a speech talking about the "free" services you get with Obamacare. Just think, it doesn't have to be paid for. The doctors and nurses an pharmicists and drug companies and orderlies are all working for nothing. No salary for them. Of course, the government bureaucrats will get paid.
Let's give Nic a little credit for multi tasking. He can lie and be be stupid at the same time.