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MMC
01-06-2012, 01:44 PM
The Obama administration on Friday proposed new hardship rules that would make it easier for illegal immigrants to apply (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#) for legal status and stay in the country if they have a spouse or parent already living here legally.

Homeland Security officials, who announced the change in the Federal Register, said the goal is to cut down the time that those illegal immigrants are separated from their families while they await a decision on an application (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#) for legal visas.

She said the new rules wouldn't change who ends up getting legal status, but only lets those who are applying stay in the U.S. while those applications (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#) are pending.

Under a 1996 law, illegal immigrants who are in the U.S. are barred from coming back in the country for three or 10 years, depending on how long they were here illegally. Congress allowed a waiver, but Mr. Smith said it was intended to be used on a case-by-case basis, not categorically.....snip~

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/6/obama-administration-eases-deportation-rules/print/

WTF is this MOFO doing.....this is ridiculous. Note the law was set up for a case by case basis. He is laterally going to apply coverage to illegals. This is his way to also lessen deportations. Wonder how many of these people will vote for him and will get counted in. SOAB.....Making moves while he is out on the road Campaigning.....eh! Quite a coincidincy on the Voter Acquistion!!!!!

Open Borders, less deportations, this bullshit about trying to keep families together. It's like Santorium said. What happens when their relative goes to jail for committing crimes. They are away from their family.

This actually puts these peopl in this classification over those who are doing so legally.:cussing: :rant:

Conley
01-06-2012, 02:49 PM
Don't bring Santorum into this! :laugh:

It is ridiculous. On the other hand the Obama administration has deported more than any prior one. I think once again he is trying to straddle both sides of the fence and in this case putting up some hollow legislation as hispandering.

Mister D
01-06-2012, 02:55 PM
Taking a stand on chain migration necessarily entails hardship for some migrants. Too bad.

jgreer
01-06-2012, 03:08 PM
You shouldnt punish people who havent done anything wrong.

Mister D
01-06-2012, 03:20 PM
You shouldnt punish people who havent done anything wrong.

Removal of aliens is not punishment.

MMC
01-06-2012, 03:37 PM
You shouldnt punish people who havent done anything wrong.

"but only lets those who are applying stay in the U.S. while those applications (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#) are pending."

How is it punishing them if it is known they are staying here illegally while their applications are pending.....JG? What don't the left get about those staying and refusing to leave because their applications are pending.

They want to follow the law. After the 90 days is up.....all they need do is go back over the border and stay there for a minimum of 24 hrs. Then they are allowed to return. Another 90 days they have to go back across the border again. It is not real difficult to do. It's called visiting! Not permanent vacation!

MMC
01-06-2012, 03:50 PM
Removal of aliens is not punishment.

Especially if we don't probe them! :laugh: :wink:

jgreer
01-06-2012, 04:02 PM
Im talking about the families

Mister D
01-06-2012, 04:03 PM
Im talking about the families

So am I.

MMC
01-06-2012, 04:11 PM
I think the piece was to. As it stated they should be allowed to stay if their family members were legal. Which has nothing to do with them being legal. Just because their family members are legal doesnt mean hey bring ya whole family in. We are all legal now. Especially with the paperwork pending. Pay for the 90 day visa. Return over the border for 24 hrs. Then pay for the 90 day visa again. Simple as that! Every 90 days. They want to get out of paying the fees as well!

jgreer
01-06-2012, 04:25 PM
So am I.

Youa re heartless

Mister D
01-06-2012, 04:26 PM
Youa re heartless

Taking a stand against chain migration will require hardness at times.

wingrider
01-07-2012, 07:31 PM
here is a thought.. since Jgreer loves illegals so much, and doesn't feel they are breaking the law, lets send them to his house and let him support them.. its only fair that bleeding hearts should bear the brunt of of the burdons that Illegals put on this country.


apparently some people don't know the difference between someone breaking the LAW and someone going about entrance into the United States legally..

wingrider
01-07-2012, 07:34 PM
Youa re heartless


no he isn't heartless.. he is wanting people to stay within the boundarys set by LAW. and that all immigration laws be enforced as they are written.. nothing heartless about that at all

Mister D
01-07-2012, 07:36 PM
here is a thought.. since Jgreer loves illegals so much, and doesn't feel they are breaking the law, lets send them to his house and let him support them.. its only fair that bleeding hearts should bear the brunt of of the burdons that Illegals put on this country.


apparently some people don't know the difference between someone breaking the LAW and someone going about entrance into the United States legally..

It's easy to have a biog heart when you don't think you;re paying for it although he is. We all are. He just doesn't realize that.

Captain Obvious
01-07-2012, 08:30 PM
I had NPR's Democracy Now on the other night when I was driving home. It's a bleeding heart liberal, socialist, "America sucks" kind of program. They had a segment on deportation, had some reverend somebody or another, a Texas guy and some liberal lawyer who sounded like she just started law school.

Anyway, they went on and on and on until the host finally told them to shut up with these stories of ICE deporting people randomly. Pregnant women, veterans, severely handicapped people - they made it seem like ICE was deporting anyone they felt like.

It could be true though, but the whole segment bled with bias. I found it hard to take seriously but the average liberal bucket carrier is probably heading down to the border right now to protest.

Mister D
01-07-2012, 08:41 PM
I have Democracy Now on Cable. It's a 30 minute (maybe an hour?) program that on one of these channels. It sure sounds like it's full o' bias. I didn't know it was a part of NPR.

Captain Obvious
01-07-2012, 08:47 PM
I have Democracy Now on Cable. It's a 30 minute (maybe an hour?) program that on one of these channels. It sure sounds like it's full o' bias. I didn't know it was a part of NPR.

I've only heard DN on NPR. It's whacked out, hardcore socialism/liberalism.

They did have as a guest that Roemer candidate. I thought that was kinda out of character for that program but I gotta tell you, from what I heard of this Roemer guy, he sounded like the guy I would vote for.

He didn't present himself fantastically, sounded a bit like a hick but his campaign refuses contributions over $100 and not from corps. He's all for campaign reform, getting the lobby out of politics, getting Washington and Wall St. out of bed. He supported OWS though, but from the standpoint that they were for political/corporate separation.

Mister D
01-07-2012, 08:58 PM
I've only heard DN on NPR. It's whacked out, hardcore socialism/liberalism.

They did have as a guest that Roemer candidate. I thought that was kinda out of character for that program but I gotta tell you, from what I heard of this Roemer guy, he sounded like the guy I would vote for.

He didn't present himself fantastically, sounded a bit like a hick but his campaign refuses contributions over $100 and not from corps. He's all for campaign reform, getting the lobby out of politics, getting Washington and Wall St. out of bed. He supported OWS though, but from the standpoint that they were for political/corporate separation.

I was thinking of turning it on for the heck of it. I bought copies of The Progressive years ago, which also has a hardcore socialist bent, just to see what they were saying. I'll have to watch DN.

Conley
01-07-2012, 09:02 PM
I've only heard DN on NPR. It's whacked out, hardcore socialism/liberalism.

They did have as a guest that Roemer candidate. I thought that was kinda out of character for that program but I gotta tell you, from what I heard of this Roemer guy, he sounded like the guy I would vote for.

He didn't present himself fantastically, sounded a bit like a hick but his campaign refuses contributions over $100 and not from corps. He's all for campaign reform, getting the lobby out of politics, getting Washington and Wall St. out of bed. He supported OWS though, but from the standpoint that they were for political/corporate separation.

That sounds awesome. The "goals" of OWS are too scattered for me to endorse it but the rest of his positions seem great to me.

Captain Obvious
01-07-2012, 09:39 PM
Yeah, he was a two-term congressman and a one term governor. That's not too shabby.

Captain Obvious
01-07-2012, 09:56 PM
They also had this tool from OWS some city or another.

Remember when Romney had that moment when he was making the statement that corporations are people? This kid was at a Romney thing in NH and asked him sort of the same question and surprisingly DN played Romney's entire retort which Romney pretty much nailed. Then they had this kid on as a guest.

His delivery was nothing short of a farmhand who just fell off of a turnip truck. So much that they had to reel back their questions for him, they didn't ask anything of substance, more of "what are you doing nowadays" sort of shit.

Nobody on DN would have grilled this tool, and that's questionable journalism IMO. This douchenozzel sure had his shots at Romney though.

Mister D
01-07-2012, 10:24 PM
They also had this tool from OWS some city or another.

Remember when Romney had that moment when he was making the statement that corporations are people? This kid was at a Romney thing in NH and asked him sort of the same question and surprisingly DN played Romney's entire retort which Romney pretty much nailed. Then they had this kid on as a guest.

His delivery was nothing short of a farmhand who just fell off of a turnip truck. So much that they had to reel back their questions for him, they didn't ask anything of substance, more of "what are you doing nowadays" sort of shit.

Nobody on DN would have grilled this tool, and that's questionable journalism IMO. This douchenozzel sure had his shots at Romney though.

It sounds to me like they just had him on because he confronted a Republican candidate. That is pretty douchy.

Conley
01-07-2012, 10:25 PM
That quote really bugs me, because if you watch the whole exchange I think it's obvious Romney is saying corporations are made up of people and he's right. It has been repeated over and over by Romney bashers and it's bs.

Mister D
01-07-2012, 10:27 PM
That quote really bugs me, because if you watch the whole exchange I think it's obvious Romney is saying corporations are made up of people and he's right. It has been repeated over and over by Romney bashers and it's bs.

It's generally disgusting to watch partisan nitwits run with that shit. Their blog tells them so and so said "X" and they don;t give a thought to the context.

Conley
01-07-2012, 10:30 PM
It's generally disgusting to watch partisan nitwits run with that shit. Their blog tells them so and so said "X" and they don;t give a thought to the context.

Exactly. It's so frustrating...we really have ended up with the government we deserve. This is also why politicians only speak in sound bites, because if they make a point that requires 30 seconds of attention it will be chopped up and used against them.

Conley
01-07-2012, 10:31 PM
If I read Cap'n's post right at least this DN let Romney explain the situation and didn't cut him off.

Captain Obvious
01-07-2012, 10:37 PM
It sounds to me like they just had him on because he confronted a Republican candidate. That is pretty douchy.

Exactly.

Captain Obvious
01-07-2012, 10:39 PM
I'm guessing that Romney wanted to go hardcore and make the suggestion that corps "are people" but he quickly backpeddled and after a chance to rethink his strategy, he went for the "corps are made up of people/corps benefit people" approach.

wingrider
01-07-2012, 10:45 PM
I'm guessing that Romney wanted to go hardcore and make the suggestion that corps "are people" but he quickly backpeddled and after a chance to rethink his strategy, he went for the "corps are made up of people/corps benefit people" approach.


yep sounds a nice back peddle job on that one..

Mister D
01-07-2012, 10:46 PM
Exactly. It's so frustrating...we really have ended up with the government we deserve. This is also why politicians only speak in sound bites, because if they make a point that requires 30 seconds of attention it will be chopped up and used against them.

Sad but true and you make a good point about the sound bites.

Mister D
01-07-2012, 10:49 PM
If I read Cap'n's post right at least this DN let Romney explain the situation and didn't cut him off.

Yeah, that's true but I agree with Cap't that the kid gloves treatment this kid got says a lot about the program and none of it's good. If you're looking for decent journalism anyway...

wingrider
01-08-2012, 06:20 PM
Yeah, that's true but I agree with Cap't that the kid gloves treatment this kid got says a lot about the program and none of it's good. If you're looking for decent journalism anyway...

I am beginning to think that there is no good journalist today,, it seems everyone has an agenda and that agenda does not include the TRUTH

Mister D
01-08-2012, 06:36 PM
I am beginning to think that there is no good journalist today,, it seems everyone has an agenda and that agenda does not include the TRUTH

I often read racialist literature now but for world news I've decided to subscribe to The Economist again. I agree with you for the most part but I wouldn't go so far.

wingrider
01-08-2012, 06:46 PM
I often read racialist literature now but for world news I've decided to subscribe to The Economist again. I agree with you for the most part but I wouldn't go so far.

show me one news organization that tells the american people all the truth.. everyone of them has either an agenda or a bias. and that includes Fox

Mister D
01-08-2012, 06:56 PM
show me one news organization that tells the american people all the truth.. everyone of them has either an agenda or a bias. and that includes Fox

All news is propaganda. There is no such thing as objective journalism. There never has been.

wingrider
01-08-2012, 06:57 PM
All news is propaganda. There is no such thing as objective journalism. There never has been.

oh so very true brother..

Mister D
01-08-2012, 06:59 PM
oh so very true brother..

As long as you realize that I think you'll be fine. "You" meaning people generally.