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Cigar
08-23-2013, 06:45 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/files/2013/02/03586202_image-300x204.jpg

This is the fifth year of the Obama administration and the first summer since he was reelected by the American people. And yet there is a hearty band of nitwits implacably convinced that President Obama is an alien occupier of the Oval Office. They have shown up at Republican town halls flogging false allegations about the president’s birth certificate and have asked members of Congress what to do about it. As disturbing as that is, the conversation has moved from birther nonsense to a destructive remedy: impeachment.


At a town hall on Aug. 8, Rep. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) danced with a birther (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-rep-tells-angry-birther-i-believe-what) who wanted to know what he knew about “Obama’s identification fraud (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXJd5ug4uto#at=63).” The House freshman cut her off and said that the 2012 presidential election settled that question. “We lost that argument Nov. 6,” Mullin said. “We had four years to get that proven. We didn’t. We re-elected him. So that’s a dead issue.” She countered, “No, it isn’t!”



Rep. Mullin: I’m not defending this guy. Please understand what I’m saying. I’m not defending this guy…. I believe what you’re saying and I don’t support this president whatsoever.

Questioner: But he’s not a real president.


Mullin: But ma’am, we lost Nov. 6. We had the opportunity to get another president in there and like it or not….


Questioner: So, he’s above the law. He’s not going to be held accountable to a crime that goes to the very root of what he’s doing to this Constitution. He was a fraud, he got in…He’s above the law.

Next up, Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Tex.) He entertained the birther notion (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-rep-we-have-votes-in-house-to?ref=fpb) during a town hall on Aug. 13. A constituent had grave concerns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH266F3UEVM) about “the fraudulent birth certificate of Barack Obama.” Farenthold said he was “not sure how we fix it.” But the lady countered with another question. “We have to decide as a nation,” she asked, “do we allow a president, if he has committed a felony, do we allow him to go unpunished?” By broaching impeachment, Farenthold goes where Mullin did not.


You tie into a question I get a lot, if everybody’s so unhappy with what the President’s done, why don’t you impeach him? I’ll give you a real frank answer about that, if we were to impeach the President tomorrow, you could probably get the votes in the House of Representatives to do it. But it would go to the Senate and he wouldn’t be convicted….


What message do we send to America if we impeach Obama and he gets away with what he’s impeached for and is found innocent? What do we say then is okay. Aside from the fact that it wouldn’t be effective, I think there’s some potential damage to society that would be done with a failed attempt at impeachment.



The damage to society would be impeaching the president based on a lie (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/trumps-disgusting-dangerous-dance-with-birthers/2011/03/04/AFB83ZvC_blog.html), a racist one at that.


And now enters Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.). Katrina Trinko of the National Review reports (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/356237/cruz-calls-why-dont-we-impeach-obama-good-question-katrina-trinko) that at a Republican dinner in Texas last night, the former Canadian (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/08/19/cruz-will-renounce-canadian-citizenship/) was asked “Why don’t we impeach him [Obama]?” Cruz’s answer was an echo of Farenthold’s. While the context of the question is unclear (was it also a birther-related query?), Cruz’ response was not that of a statesman. “It’s a good question,” he said, “and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. senate.”


Cruz would later tell Trinko, “I think we should focus on fights that would make a difference, restoring economic growth and opportunity and fights that we have a realistic prospect of winning.” And, in Cruz’s estimation, “that’s not a fight we have a prospect of winning.”


There’s no prospect of winning an impeachment fight because Cruz, Farenthold and others don’t have a leg to stand on. What are the charges exactly? That he is an American citizen? That he succeeded in pushing through a health care law they don’t like? That he won reelection despite every effort to delegitimize him and his administration?


Sorry, folks. You have no case. :rollseyes:


Bottom Line ... These people are Racist Ass-Holes and I don't give a shit if they don't like that accusation or not.

If you don't like the accusation, prove me wrong or STFU

Singularity
08-23-2013, 06:50 AM
1998 still smarts in the GOP establishment. That's probably the
last time an American President will be impeached when the House
membership knows that the votes in the Senate are not there.

zelmo1234
08-23-2013, 06:52 AM
The impeachment stuff is just stupid!

they need to do things like force him to actually do a budget

approve the keystone pipeline, and increase fossil fuel exploration on public lands?

They need to stop the BS

Cigar
08-23-2013, 06:54 AM
1998 still smarts in the GOP establishment. That's probably the
last time an American President will be impeached when the House
membership knows that the votes in the Senate are not there.

Darrell Issa has been on the hunt for months .... :biglaugh:

It's hilarious to watch these idiots make complete fools of themselves

patrickt
08-23-2013, 07:45 AM
I agree with Cigar. Hating America is not grounds for an impeachment. Siding with our enemies is only grounds for impeachment in time of war. Violating the Constitution hasn't been grounds for impeachment at least since President Lincoln. Spying on Americans and having the IRS harass the political opposition isn't grounds for impeachment. And, for lying, President Clinton set the bar somewhere above committing perjury. After Sen. Kennedy's successes as a drunken killer, I'm not sure anything would successfully impeach a politician.

I'm not sure we'll ever impeach any President.

Mainecoons
08-23-2013, 07:49 AM
Only by the standards applied to Nixon would there be grounds for impeachment. Those standards no longer apply, particularly if the perp is a "black" Democrat.

Good post Patrick.

Cigar
08-23-2013, 07:49 AM
http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/893/a41/7b0/resized/anti-joke-chicken-meme-generator-why-is-there-a-black-man-president-in-usa-he-was-elected-354ce5.jpg

Cigar
08-23-2013, 07:50 AM
http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/files/2011/04/gop-quit-crying9.jpg#gop%20crybabies%20450x563

Cigar
08-23-2013, 07:52 AM
Today's Republican Party

http://www.bilgebucket.com/wp-content/uploads/GOPcrybabies2012.jpg

bladimz
08-23-2013, 08:14 AM
The cries for impeachment only serve to further embarrass the large majority of the republican party. What is their true agenda... to totally eliminate the current party?

patrickt
08-23-2013, 08:15 AM
Poor Cigar. Nothing to say but desperate for attention. Cigar, your mommy loves you. She lets you live in her basement.

Cigar
08-23-2013, 08:17 AM
Poor Cigar. Nothing to say but desperate for attention. Cigar, your mommy loves you. She lets you live in her basement.

But it's a really nice Basement ... :wink:

Libhater
08-23-2013, 08:37 AM
I'm a little surprised that you leftists hadn't heard or hadn't read the 51 reasons to impeach this most horrible president. obama's phony birth certificate is just the beginning quest to oust this anti American president.

Here, take a close looksee into the 51 real serious reasons to impeach this turkey immediately. I'll be hanging around in case you lightweights have any questions.


http://www.theantiliberalzone.com/2012/01/04/50-ways-to-impeach-obama/

Singularity
08-23-2013, 09:01 AM
I'm a little surprised that you leftists hadn't heard or hadn't read the 51 reasons to impeach this most horrible president. obama's phony birth certificate is just the beginning quest to oust this anti American president.

Here, take a close looksee into the 51 real serious reasons to impeach this turkey immediately. I'll be hanging around in case you lightweights have any questions.


http://www.theantiliberalzone.com/2012/01/04/50-ways-to-impeach-obama/Here's a question: When will a majority, never mind two-thirds, of the Senate vote for it?

Singularity
08-23-2013, 09:05 AM
Two more questions:

How can a House of Representatives, which did not secure a majority
of the overall popular vote ever hope to justify attempting to remove
the President who did? Do you really think this will be received well?

Libhater
08-23-2013, 09:06 AM
Here's a question: When will a majority, never mind two-thirds, of the Senate vote for it?

Most likely when the Republicans take control of the Senate in January of 2015. What did you think of the 51 impeachable offenses? Did you have any favorites, and were there any you thought didn't rise to the impeachment level?

bladimz
08-23-2013, 10:09 AM
I'm a little surprised that you leftists hadn't heard or hadn't read the 51 reasons to impeach this most horrible president. obama's phony birth certificate is just the beginning quest to oust this anti American president.

Here, take a close looksee into the 51 real serious reasons to impeach this turkey immediately. I'll be hanging around in case you lightweights have any questions.


http://www.theantiliberalzone.com/2012/01/04/50-ways-to-impeach-obama/Without even reading the 51 reasons, the name of the site that carries these reasons, "The Anti-liberal Zone" is a big strike against the objectivity of the content within. Know what i mean? But i'll read them anyway. Just for fun.

Libhater
08-23-2013, 10:20 AM
Without even reading the 51 reasons, the name of the site that carries these reasons, "The Anti-liberal Zone" is a big strike against the objectivity of the content within. Know what i mean? But i'll read them anyway. Just for fun.

Yeah, after reading them give us your undivided opinion on which ones you believe don't rise to the criminal level to force impeachment proceedings. Please fill in for cigar's obvious absence here by telling us which of the 51 impeachable offenses are as cigar would say....'BASELESS'

bladimz
08-23-2013, 10:31 AM
Yeah, after reading them give us your undivided opinion on which ones you believe don't rise to the criminal level to force impeachment proceedings. Please fill in for cigar's obvious absence here by telling us which of the 51 impeachable offenses are as cigar would say....'BASELESS'Well, my "undivided" opinion is that most of these "crimes" are unsubstantiated accusations. Most, even if somehow proven, don't rise to the level of impeachable offenses. Hint: using the spelling ObamaKare doesn't do much to show the objectivity of this list. It's more a list of pissy complaints by Obama-haters than anything else.

Not even a nice try.

Libhater
08-23-2013, 10:43 AM
Well, my "undivided" opinion is that most of these "crimes" are unsubstantiated accusations. Most, even if somehow proven, don't rise to the level of impeachable offenses. Hint: using the spelling ObamaKare doesn't do much to show the objectivity of this list. It's more a list of pissy complaints by Obama-haters than anything else.

Not even a nice try.


I really didn't expect you to see the seriousness of his many criminally corrupt offenses against America; but as long as your reading of the facts didn't upset your Obama-flavored Kool-Ade drink--then I don't see where there was any harm done, for you're going to continue glorifying this current stooge.

Libhater
08-23-2013, 11:40 AM
Here is another plea to impeach Obama, and it just came out today.

http://www.teaparty.org/senator-obama-perilously-close-to-impeachment-27694/

patrickt
08-23-2013, 11:41 AM
I only wish a large majority of the Democrats were embarrassed by the illegal acts of this administration. Sadly, they're not. True believers who honestly believe that the ends justify any means and those with no sense of responsibility cannot be embarrassed.

Singularity
08-23-2013, 12:12 PM
Most likely when the Republicans take control of the Senate in January of 2015. What did you think of the 51 impeachable offenses? Did you have any favorites, and were there any you thought didn't rise to the impeachment level?So Republicans will both vote in the House to impeach in 2015
and then 2/3 of the Senate will vote to convict. Perfect plan of action
you've got there. Flawless. I have no idea how it might go wrong.

Mainecoons
08-23-2013, 12:16 PM
Don't make a martyr out of Barack/Barry/??, just leave him in there and let him pile screw up on top of screw up on top of lies. The people who voted him in need an object lesson and he'll give it to them over the next three years.

GrassrootsConservative
08-23-2013, 12:19 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/files/2013/02/03586202_image-300x204.jpg

This is the fifth year of the Obama administration and the first summer since he was reelected by the American people. And yet there is a hearty band of nitwits implacably convinced that President Obama is an alien occupier of the Oval Office. They have shown up at Republican town halls flogging false allegations about the president’s birth certificate and have asked members of Congress what to do about it. As disturbing as that is, the conversation has moved from birther nonsense to a destructive remedy: impeachment.


At a town hall on Aug. 8, Rep. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) danced with a birther (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-rep-tells-angry-birther-i-believe-what) who wanted to know what he knew about “Obama’s identification fraud (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXJd5ug4uto#at=63).” The House freshman cut her off and said that the 2012 presidential election settled that question. “We lost that argument Nov. 6,” Mullin said. “We had four years to get that proven. We didn’t. We re-elected him. So that’s a dead issue.” She countered, “No, it isn’t!”



Rep. Mullin: I’m not defending this guy. Please understand what I’m saying. I’m not defending this guy…. I believe what you’re saying and I don’t support this president whatsoever.

Questioner: But he’s not a real president.


Mullin: But ma’am, we lost Nov. 6. We had the opportunity to get another president in there and like it or not….


Questioner: So, he’s above the law. He’s not going to be held accountable to a crime that goes to the very root of what he’s doing to this Constitution. He was a fraud, he got in…He’s above the law.

Next up, Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Tex.) He entertained the birther notion (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-rep-we-have-votes-in-house-to?ref=fpb) during a town hall on Aug. 13. A constituent had grave concerns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH266F3UEVM) about “the fraudulent birth certificate of Barack Obama.” Farenthold said he was “not sure how we fix it.” But the lady countered with another question. “We have to decide as a nation,” she asked, “do we allow a president, if he has committed a felony, do we allow him to go unpunished?” By broaching impeachment, Farenthold goes where Mullin did not.

You tie into a question I get a lot, if everybody’s so unhappy with what the President’s done, why don’t you impeach him? I’ll give you a real frank answer about that, if we were to impeach the President tomorrow, you could probably get the votes in the House of Representatives to do it. But it would go to the Senate and he wouldn’t be convicted….


What message do we send to America if we impeach Obama and he gets away with what he’s impeached for and is found innocent? What do we say then is okay. Aside from the fact that it wouldn’t be effective, I think there’s some potential damage to society that would be done with a failed attempt at impeachment.



The damage to society would be impeaching the president based on a lie (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/trumps-disgusting-dangerous-dance-with-birthers/2011/03/04/AFB83ZvC_blog.html), a racist one at that.


And now enters Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.). Katrina Trinko of the National Review reports (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/356237/cruz-calls-why-dont-we-impeach-obama-good-question-katrina-trinko) that at a Republican dinner in Texas last night, the former Canadian (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/08/19/cruz-will-renounce-canadian-citizenship/) was asked “Why don’t we impeach him [Obama]?” Cruz’s answer was an echo of Farenthold’s. While the context of the question is unclear (was it also a birther-related query?), Cruz’ response was not that of a statesman. “It’s a good question,” he said, “and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. senate.”


Cruz would later tell Trinko, “I think we should focus on fights that would make a difference, restoring economic growth and opportunity and fights that we have a realistic prospect of winning.” And, in Cruz’s estimation, “that’s not a fight we have a prospect of winning.”


There’s no prospect of winning an impeachment fight because Cruz, Farenthold and others don’t have a leg to stand on. What are the charges exactly? That he is an American citizen? That he succeeded in pushing through a health care law they don’t like? That he won reelection despite every effort to delegitimize him and his administration?


Sorry, folks. You have no case. :rollseyes:


Bottom Line ... These people are Racist Ass-Holes and I don't give a shit if they don't like that accusation or not.

If you don't like the accusation, prove me wrong or STFU

http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/17a82f72424082513b05cdc2839a3dbc.png

Cigar
08-23-2013, 12:29 PM
Here is another plea to impeach Obama, and it just came out today.

http://www.teaparty.org/senator-obama-perilously-close-to-impeachment-27694/

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130823-coburn-latest-republican-to-suggest-obama-impeachment.jpg

bladimz
08-23-2013, 02:24 PM
I really didn't expect you to see the seriousness of his many criminally corrupt offenses against America; but as long as your reading of the facts didn't upset your Obama-flavored Kool-Ade drink--then I don't see where there was any harm done, for you're going to continue glorifying this current stooge.Hey, i never said the guy's perfect. He's not my hero. I didn't vote for him. But the people who are now chanting impeachment, would happily lynch him if they could. Hate is a powerful motivator.

Libhater
08-23-2013, 02:37 PM
Hey, i never said the guy's perfect. He's not my hero. I didn't vote for him. But the people who are now chanting impeachment, would happily lynch him if they could. Hate is a powerful motivator.

I would have to agree with you that hatred for this guy's criminal behavior is a mighty powerful motivator.

bladimz
08-23-2013, 03:22 PM
I would have to agree with you that hatred for this guy's criminal behavior is a mighty powerful motivator.Clever! I saw what you did there... you twisted and contorted my post to make it work for you, instead of what i had originally posted. Very clever!

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Mainecoons
08-23-2013, 03:42 PM
I read your sentence. Could you identify the part where you specified exactly what it is that people hate?

Maybe if you learned how to write with a little more precision, you wouldn't be constantly getting misinterpreted. Of course, that requires one to think more factually and precisely, and you might find that a bit of a challenge.

Carry on, though.

:grin:

Venus
08-23-2013, 09:53 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W._Bush

3698


The good old days when dissent was patriotic now dissent is racist.