Why are Liberals Unhappy, Angry & Depressed?

[Libhater]

The people on the left are miserable because they know that everything they believe in fails. Nothing works!

Do you realize that after four and a half years of Obama we're supposed to be in utopia here? We are supposed to be in eternal bliss, total happiness. Everybody who wants a job is supposed to have one. Everybody who wants to be able to afford to live however they want to live is supposed to be able to. None of it's happened. Now, the left, just in general, is unhappy. No matter what they get of what they want, it's never enough. But they really thought that this was it.

Finally, their messiah, utopia, everything they believe in, national health care, you name it--they got it. The only thing they haven't gotten is the official sanction of gay marriage and gun control. I would contend to you they're miserable because they're incapable of happiness. I think the ideology, liberalism, does not permit happiness. You have to be mad all the time to be a liberal. You have to see the unfairness, injustice, depression, recession, bigotry, racism, homophobia everywhere you look to be a good liberal. You can't be happy. It's one of the reasons why I don't think these people should ever be trusted with power.

There's no optimism. There's no good cheer. There's no laughter. There's no happiness, by virtue of who they are. In general they're enraged. But they're really mad now because they're living amidst incontrovertible proof that everything they believe doesn't work.

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[Mainecoons]

Sure explains why they hate Duck Dynasty!

I mean, come on. Strong religious beliefs, all parents at home, incredible commitment to their marriages, entrepreneurial spirit, anti-abortion, these Robertsons should be deported before they destroy the liberal dream of welfare, free love, no responsibility or consequences for all!

[Cigar]

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[Libhater]

Sure explains why they hate Duck Dynasty!

I mean, come on. Strong religious beliefs, all parents at home, incredible commitment to their marriages, entrepreneurial spirit, anti-abortion, these Robertsons should be deported before they destroy the liberal dream of welfare, free love, no responsibility or consequences for all!

Yeah, liberals just hate the family unit so much that they needed their female messiah... Hillary to have a book ghost written titled..."It Takes a Village" for the community to take care of our kids. Oh yeah, lest we forget that black female Melissa Perry calling for the community to raise our children.

[nic34]

we're supposed to be in utopia here

Who promised that?

[Cigar]

Who promised that?

I didn't know I was suppose to be unhappy Angry & Depressed ... who forgot to send the Memo?

[Libhater]

Who promised that?

Methinks it started with the leftist's idol worship of Karl Marx, and later strengthened by John Maynard Keynes, Saul Alinsky and then right up to Obama himself. Of course I'm leaving out a few lefty notables on purpose, but you shouldn't have any problem coming up with a list of utopian wannabes.

[nic34]

Methinks it started with the leftist's idol worship of Karl Marx, and later strengthened by John Maynard Keynes, Saul Alinsky and then right up to Obama himself. Of course I'm leaving out a few lefty notables on purpose, but you shouldn't have any problem coming up with a list of utopian wannabes.

You didn't say anything about all them..... you said Obama....


Do you realize that after four and a half years of Obama we're supposed to be in utopia here?


Who said that?

[Libhater]

You didn't say anything about all them..... you said Obama....

Yeah, and so I'm saying it again....they all believe in an American utopia, including Obama. What do you think the leftist ideology centers around? Leftists envision a classless socialist society based on a utopian nirvana.

[Chloe]

Sure explains why they hate Duck Dynasty!

I mean, come on. Strong religious beliefs, all parents at home, incredible commitment to their marriages, entrepreneurial spirit, anti-abortion, these Robertsons should be deported before they destroy the liberal dream of welfare, free love, no responsibility or consequences for all!

I like Duck Dynasty a lot it's a good show. I don't like some of the scenes where they shoot and kill stuff but theres no way around that aspect of it i guess since thats their business. I actually bought one of those replica tea glasses that Si drinks from for one of my friend's dad since he likes to hunt and loves the show.

[nic34]

I like Duck Dynasty a lot it's a good show. I don't like some of the scenes where they shoot and kill stuff but theres no way around that aspect of it i guess since thats their business. I actually bought one of those replica tea glasses that Si drinks from for one of my friend's dad since he likes to hunt and loves the show.

They think they can put us all in a nice tidy little box.

[Cigar]

Yeah, and so I'm saying it again....they all believe in an American utopia, including Obama. What do you think the leftist ideology centers around? Leftists envision a classless socialist society based on a utopian nirvana.

Really ... how long did that interview take you?

[Cigar]

They think they can put us all in a nice tidy little box.

It's the Box they all live in, they don't know of any other. :rollseyes:

[Carlsen]

Yeah, liberals just hate the family unit so much that they needed their female messiah... Hillary to have a book ghost written titled..."It Takes a Village" for the community to take care of our kids. Oh yeah, lest we forget that black female Melissa Perry calling for the community to raise our children.

no the book it is titled "it take a zombie" :)
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[Libhater]

no the book it is titled "it take a zombie" :)
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That were a goodin....LOL! What a witch.

[Chris]

Sure explains why they hate Duck Dynasty!

I mean, come on. Strong religious beliefs, all parents at home, incredible commitment to their marriages, entrepreneurial spirit, anti-abortion, these Robertsons should be deported before they destroy the liberal dream of welfare, free love, no responsibility or consequences for all!



It's a great show!

[Mainecoons]

No, Nic, we've got a nice tidy town to put you in:

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[Chris]

I like Duck Dynasty a lot it's a good show. I don't like some of the scenes where they shoot and kill stuff but theres no way around that aspect of it i guess since thats their business. I actually bought one of those replica tea glasses that Si drinks from for one of my friend's dad since he likes to hunt and loves the show.



Si's a hoot!

They eat what they kill.

[Chris]

The problem with most liberals and happiness is they skipped the pursuit part.

[Mainecoons]

Not true. They are hot in the pursuit of other peoples' happiness so they can tax it and give it to the "deserving" like those VA workers who got bonuses for screwing up payments owned to veterans.

[Chloe]

Si's a hoot!

They eat what they kill.

I like Si but I like Jase and Phil a little more. They are all funny though.

[Chris]

I like Si but I like Jase and Phil a little more. They are all funny though.

Actually same here. Initially Jase, his dead pan commentary is funny. But I've been reading Phil's autobiography Happy, Happy, Happy and it's an amazing story. I guess I identify with him.

[Mr Happy]

The people on the left are miserable because they know that everything they believe in fails. Nothing works!

Do you realize that after four and a half years of Obama we're supposed to be in utopia here? We are supposed to be in eternal bliss, total happiness. Everybody who wants a job is supposed to have one. Everybody who wants to be able to afford to live however they want to live is supposed to be able to. None of it's happened. Now, the left, just in general, is unhappy. No matter what they get of what they want, it's never enough. But they really thought that this was it.

Finally, their messiah, utopia, everything they believe in, national health care, you name it--they got it. The only thing they haven't gotten is the official sanction of gay marriage and gun control. I would contend to you they're miserable because they're incapable of happiness. I think the ideology, liberalism, does not permit happiness. You have to be mad all the time to be a liberal. You have to see the unfairness, injustice, depression, recession, bigotry, racism, homophobia everywhere you look to be a good liberal. You can't be happy. It's one of the reasons why I don't think these people should ever be trusted with power.

There's no optimism. There's no good cheer. There's no laughter. There's no happiness, by virtue of who they are. In general they're enraged. But they're really mad now because they're living amidst incontrovertible proof that everything they believe doesn't work.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/08/20/in_the_face_of_obama_s_malaise_economy_seek_succes s_and_when_you_find_it_be_proud_of_it

The title of your op-ed is weird considering the rant you just went through. Unless you are a liberal, in which case it makes sense. If not, and you are conservative, then you're the one sounding "unhappy, angry and depressed" (well, may not the last one, but definitely the first two)...

[Chris]

The title of your op-ed is weird considering the rant you just went through. Unless you are a liberal, in which case it makes sense. If not, and you are conservative, then you're the one sounding "unhappy, angry and depressed" (well, may not the last one, but definitely the first two)...



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[roadmaster]

The troops have not came home in fact he has more in the ME than Bush ever had and yet he still starts with another country.

[Captain Obvious]

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[Libhater]

The title of your op-ed is weird considering the rant you just went through. Unless you are a liberal, in which case it makes sense. If not, and you are conservative, then you're the one sounding "unhappy, angry and depressed" (well, may not the last one, but definitely the first two)...

How do you figure? All I did was to give an overall view of the unhappy leftist. Don't tell me that you're a leftist, for your moniker suggest you should be a Conservative.

[darroll]

The liberals can be really happy.
especially when they have their hand in someone else’s pocket.

[Mr Happy]

How do you figure? All I did was to give an overall view of the unhappy leftist. Don't tell me that you're a leftist, for your moniker suggest you should be a Conservative.

I'm a centrist...

[Libhater]

I'm a centrist...

I'm surprised you survived. Usually centrists are found run over by a bus in the middle of the road. Centrists don't have any direction in life for they take their cue in life depending on which way the wind happens to be blowing at any given moment. Trial balloons happen to be a favorite toy of the average centrist.

[Chris]

I'm a centrist...

Lol, right in the center between Obama and Marx.

[Mr Happy]

I'm surprised you survived. Usually centrists are found run over by a bus in the middle of the road. Centrists don't have any direction in life for they take their cue in life depending on which way the wind happens to be blowing at any given moment. Trial balloons happen to be a favorite toy of the average centrist.

Really? I find centrists the most normal of all. They take the best both sides have to offer and dispense with the extremist crap. Remember, I come from a country that has 8 political parties in its Parliament, while I live in another that has 3 and several independents. We are not prone to the dogma of a two-party state....

[Chris]

Really? I find centrists the most normal of all. They take the best both sides have to offer and dispense with the extremist crap. Remember, I come from a country that has 8 political parties in its Parliament, while I live in another that has 3 and several independents. We are not prone to the dogma of a two-party state....



Centrists don't embrace the extreme of socialism like you do.

[Libhater]

Really? I find centrists the most normal of all. They take the best both sides have to offer and dispense with the extremist crap. Remember, I come from a country that has 8 political parties in its Parliament, while I live in another that has 3 and several independents. We are not prone to the dogma of a two-party state....

I come from America where we've never had an independent, centrist, middle of the road, waffle rouser, fence sitting president in our storied history. The reason is because none of the aforementioned lightweights could possibly be considered a leader simply because they have no grounded base or ideology in which to tap in to. Centrists don't stand for anything, and therefore they have no substance and they have zero qualifications to become president or a senator or a congressman etc.

Look, I took an alley cat in to my Conservative homestead so as to give it 3 squares a day. Someone had de-clawed the cat making it a pussy cat if you know what I mean. So the cat can't defend for itself; she has no redeeming qualities other than to look up to me with those sad eyes and spurting out a whining cry when she's hungry. She seems to be frightened all the time and totally skittish. She kind of reminds me of what a centrist brings to the table in politics....which is absolutely nothing. Btw, I named her 'Skitty'.

[Mr Happy]

I come from America where we've never had an independent, centrist, middle of the road, waffle rouser, fence sitting president in our storied history. The reason is because none of the aforementioned lightweights could possibly be considered a leader simply because they have no grounded base or ideology in which to tap in to. Centrists don't stand for anything, and therefore they have no substance and they have zero qualifications to become president or a senator or a congressman etc.

Look, I took an alley cat in to my Conservative homestead so as to give it 3 squares a day. Someone had de-clawed the cat making it a pussy cat if you know what I mean. So the cat can't defend for itself; she has no redeeming qualities other than to look up to me with those sad eyes and spurting out a whining cry when she's hungry. She seems to be frightened all the time and totally skittish. She kind of reminds me of what a centrist brings to the table in politics....which is absolutely nothing. Btw, I named her 'Skitty'.

I know re America, and with all the bitching and moaning that goes on on these boards and others I would suggest you get what you deserve. IOW, the first paragraph sounds like you are wearing it as a badge of honour. Hint: I wouldn't. That is why you country is the basketcase it is at the moment.

All our parties have ideologies that can be tapped in, from the far right ACT party to the left Labour Party. You seem to think that if somebody is a centrist they are a waffling. Maybe they just see the best of both and discard the crap as already mentioned. As long as you have the extremists on both sides like your country, you'll always have 50 percent disenfranchised and 50 per cent happy. You think that is a good thing? I don't.

As for personally being a centrist, I say that so that my American friends can understand my POV in simple terms.

US speak means you are either anti-abortion or pro-choice, for death penalty or against, for gun control or not, for affirmative action or against. Things are a tad more complicated than that. But, you being a libhater, I guess you need things to be kept simple so you don't have to think too hard. All neocons are like that, so you have my sympathy on that front.

[zelmo1234]

I know re America, and with all the bitching and moaning that goes on on these boards and others I would suggest you get what you deserve. IOW, the first paragraph sounds like you are wearing it as a badge of honour. Hint: I wouldn't. That is why you country is the basketcase it is at the moment.

All our parties have ideologies that can be tapped in, from the far right ACT party to the left Labour Party. You seem to think that if somebody is a centrist they are a waffling. Maybe they just see the best of both and discard the crap as already mentioned. As long as you have the extremists on both sides like your country, you'll always have 50 percent disenfranchised and 50 per cent happy. You think that is a good thing? I don't.

As for personally being a centrist, I say that so that my American friends can understand my POV in simple terms.

US speak means you are either anti-abortion or pro-choice, for death penalty or against, for gun control or not, for affirmative action or against. Things are a tad more complicated than that. But, you being a libhater, I guess you need things to be kept simple so you don't have to think too hard. All neocons are like that, so you have my sympathy on that front.

You know I can agree with some of this.

Especially that last part, Because in my experience all liberals ever have to offer is sympathy! they never being anything useful to the table

[patrickt]

I am amazed at people who consider themselves centrists, or claim to be, such as President Obama. I have a friend who voted for Ralph Nader because he was in favor of a 100% income tax on all income over a certain amount, not near the top 1%, each year with the money taken being given to people who deserved it, like my friend. And she honestly considered herself a moderate, a centrist.

I'm not exactly a centrist but I'm not a single-issue voter or a party faithful, either. I am a fiscal conservative who believes we should help those who cannot do for themselves. That would be legitimate handicaps and not the bullshit we have now. I oppose abortions but I don't argue with early abortions. I support equal rights for everyone including gays. And I try to be honest in my dealings and I pay my bills before I go on a vacation. That makes me radical right for some "moderates".

I think everyone considers themselves moderate, centrist, mainstream. My got, Chris Mathews, the NYT, and CNN consider themselves moderate, mainstream, centrist.

[Libhater]

I know re America, and with all the bitching and moaning that goes on on these boards and others I would suggest you get what you deserve. IOW, the first paragraph sounds like you are wearing it as a badge of honour. Hint: I wouldn't. That is why you country is the basketcase it is at the moment.

Our founders knew that we would always have two political views on every subject or issue, ergo, the reason they created the 3-branch system so that no one entity would assume all the power. America is the greatest nation on earth because we are a politically divided country where everyone has the right and the freedom to express their independent views. The fact that you have a problem with our freedoms speaks volumes of why you live somewhere other than in the freest nation on earth.


All our parties have ideologies that can be tapped in, from the far right ACT party to the left Labour Party. You seem to think that if somebody is a centrist they are a waffling. Maybe they just see the best of both and discard the crap as already mentioned. As long as you have the extremists on both sides like your country, you'll always have 50 percent disenfranchised and 50 per cent happy. You think that is a good thing? I don't.

The fact is that the leftists in our country take their ideological cue from the socialists of Europe, i.e. Marxism. So its that portion of the U.S. population that is indeed extreme and dangerous and the reason why we have elections to oust the filth every 2 and 4 years as may be the case. Centrists are indeed waffling on every issue, for they don't have a core set of principles in which to use when the political Shiite hits the fan.


As for personally being a centrist, I say that so that my American friends can understand my POV in simple terms.

Simple terms and or simple solutions to political matters are never realized here in America. You either stand for something or you stand for nothing.


US speak means you are either anti-abortion or pro-choice, for death penalty or against, for gun control or not, for affirmative action or against. Things are a tad more complicated than that. But, you being a libhater, I guess you need things to be kept simple so you don't have to think too hard. All neocons are like that, so you have my sympathy on that front.

What is all that about? Its you who want to keep things simple by having the option to sway with the wind on any or every issue. You are either for the life of the unborn or you are for the slaughter/murder of God's child to be. Show me a happy content woman who aborted her child-to-be and I'll consider changing my view that leftists are always an unhappy bunch.

[Mr Happy]

I am amazed at people who consider themselves centrists, or claim to be, such as President Obama. I have a friend who voted for Ralph Nader because he was in favor of a 100% income tax on all income over a certain amount, not near the top 1%, each year with the money taken being given to people who deserved it, like my friend. And she honestly considered herself a moderate, a centrist.

I'm not exactly a centrist but I'm not a single-issue voter or a party faithful, either. I am a fiscal conservative who believes we should help those who cannot do for themselves. That would be legitimate handicaps and not the bullshit we have now. I oppose abortions but I don't argue with early abortions. I support equal rights for everyone including gays. And I try to be honest in my dealings and I pay my bills before I go on a vacation. That makes me radical right for some "moderates".

I think everyone considers themselves moderate, centrist, mainstream. My got, Chris Mathews, the NYT, and CNN consider themselves moderate, mainstream, centrist.

You and I have a lot in common...also there are many things we disagree on. You sound like a centrist to me in some aspects

[Chris]

In the 90s I referred to myself as a radical centrist, lol, but settles for libertarian because it's more easily (mis)understood.

[Mr Happy]

Our founders knew that we would always have two political views on every subject or issue, ergo, the reason they created the 3-branch system so that no one entity would assume all the power. America is the greatest nation on earth because we are a politically divided country where everyone has the right and the freedom to express their independent views. The fact that you have a problem with our freedoms speaks volumes of why you live somewhere other than in the freest nation on earth.



The fact is that the leftists in our country take their ideological cue from the socialists of Europe, i.e. Marxism. So its that portion of the U.S. population that is indeed extreme and dangerous and the reason why we have elections to oust the filth every 2 and 4 years as may be the case. Centrists are indeed waffling on every issue, for they don't have a core set of principles in which to use when the political Shiite hits the fan.



Simple terms and or simple solutions to political matters are never realized here in America. You either stand for something or you stand for nothing.



What is all that about? Its you who want to keep things simple by having the option to sway with the wind on any or every issue. You are either for the life of the unborn or you are for the slaughter/murder of God's child to be.

Like many on the American right, you put too much stock in your founders. They were all middle aged white men, some slave owners, and most didn't believe that woman had the right to vote, let alone blacks. The fact that all they could see were two points of view is not something to be admired IMO, but a flaw. I have said on many occasions that my country is a lot more freer than yours will ever be, and if you want to debate that point by point, then I am more than happy to do so.

I absolutely have core beliefs, but being a free thinker that I am, I am not bound by the two narrow philosophies that constrain your poor country. I have ideals that easily fit into both camps. Quick examples (which would benefit for deeper explanations, but I am playing to my audience). I am for gun control, against abortion (but believe that a woman has the right to choose - try and get your laughing gear around that one), against affirmative action, and for the death penalty in extreme cases. The reason I am like this is because I think for myself and have thought long and hard about each scenario without having to worry about making sure I fit nice and snug into one camp or another.

And that is the problem with America. The term 'compromise' is seen as a sign of weakness, whereas here and Europe it is seen as a sign of strength. And that is why the US political system is the quagmire that it is and why it is the worst one in the western world (with the UK's barking at its heels). You seem to think that we have simple solutions down here. We don't. What we do is talk about things and come up with a compromise. Sometimes these compromises make one side happy and the other not, sometimes they help each side a little.

As for your last sentence, that is why I think you simple. I am against abortion but for the woman's right to choose. It works like this - 20 years ago, a friend of mine came to me and said she was pregnant and what should she do. I said she should have the baby. Keep it, or put it up for adoption, but the choice was hers. She had the abortion. She remained my friend.

[Chris]

...US speak means you are either anti-abortion or pro-choice, for death penalty or against, for gun control or not, for affirmative action or against. Things are a tad more complicated than that....


...I absolutely have core beliefs, but being a free thinker that I am, I am not bound by the two narrow philosophies that constrain your poor country....


As much as you say things are not black and while you seem to see America and Americans in terms of black and white.

[Agravan]

As much as you say things are not black and while you seem to see America and Americans in terms of black and white.
You're supposed to listen to what he says, not pay attention to what he does. Liberals are just so danged smart, don't ya know?

[Chris]

You're supposed to listen to what he says, not pay attention to what he does. Liberals are just so danged smart, don't ya know?



When I was a kid and Catholic and went to church Sundays we had a parish priest by name of Fr Deitch who would preach with hoary tones about wayward teens as smart-dummies.

[Chris]

Chloe, back to Duck Dynasty, I was reading last night about Phil's environmental efforts. As he became wealthy he bought up land and now has over 800 acres. He has planted a dozen or so different type grasses to feed the ducks and other wildlife, flood controls the land so part of the year its flooded for crawfish and the rest of the year dry for the grasses. He replaced the trees that grew there with 1000s of oak trees. I all this he works with game and wildlife and agriculture agencies. What they hunt they eat, but he more than pays that back to mother nature.

[Mr Happy]

You're supposed to listen to what he says, not pay attention to what he does. Liberals are just so danged smart, don't ya know?

I'm not seeing Americans as black and white per se, it's how they are seeing themselves.

Don't shoot the messenger...

Queue Whatshisname saying "nice deflection, nice dodge...yadda, yadda, yadda"

Oh Yee who is so predictable...

[Chris]

I'm not seeing Americans as black and white per se, it's how they are seeing themselves.

Don't shoot the messenger...

Queue Whatshisname saying "nice deflection, nice dodge...yadda, yadda, yadda"

Oh Yee who is so predictable...



Sorry, happy, who ignores me, but uses my words and talks incessantly, obsessively about me, lol, we don't see ourselves as black and white, that's you, and I cited your words to demonstrate it.

On second thought there are some race-card playing liberals who do see everything in terms of black and white.