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Germanicus
09-03-2013, 01:37 PM
I have read a lot about Hitler and I can give you a quick summary of Hitlers version of WW1.

You would know that Hiter was from Austria. You would know that he considered himself to be German, You would know that many Austrians felt the same way and that when the Nazi Party marched on Austria before WW2 the people of Austria lined the streets and cheered them in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t75ldUNc2Xw


The Anschluss was the beginning of Hitler's empire which became known as the Großdeutsches Reich (Greater German Empire). It was also sometimes called Großdeutschland or Greater Germany. This was the first step in Hitler's boyhood dream of uniting all the ethnic Germans in Europe into one country.
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Austria/Anschluss01.html




There were many ethnic groups in the old Austrian Empire which were agitating for their own independent countries before the start of World War I, including the Czechs who had never had their own country. Schönerer's dream of the unification of all the Volkdeutsch would have required the empire to be dissolved. This finally happened as a result of the Treaty of St. Germain that was signed by the Allies and Austria after Austria surrendered to the Allies in November 1918.



From the beginning, the Pan-Germans were racists, before the word racist was even in use, and they were rabid anti-Semites who wanted a German nation of only ethnic Germans as citizens with the Jews and Gypsies excluded. Their hatred of the Jews intensified when Eastern European Jewish refugees began arriving in Vienna after the Russians started expelling the Jews from their homeland following the assassination of Czar Nicholas I in 1881, which was blamed on the Jews. The Pan-Germans were also against the Catholic Church because it exerted a lot of control over Austria, a Catholic country
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It was another Austrian, Theodor Herzl, a Jewish journalist in Vienna, who started the Zionist movement in 1896 when he wrote a book called "The Jewish State," which advocated the unification of all the Jews in their own country. Hitler was born in Braunau am Inn (http://www.scrapbookpages.com/BraunauAmInn/index.html) in Austria in 1889 and by the time he entered elementary school, the Pan-German movement was in full swing in his native country. The Pan-Germans formed a political party in 1897, the same year that the World Jewish Congress met for the first time in Switzerland to make plans for a Jewish state
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The Pan-German political party had its own flag and its followers sang the German national anthem; Hitler and his elementary school friends were waving the flag of the Pan-Germans at the same time that the Zionists in Austria were waving their flag, which is now the blue and white flag of Israel. Austrians were singing the German national anthem while the Jews were singing their anthem called "Hope" which is now the national anthem of Israel. In 1935 when Hitler proclaimed the Nuremberg laws which denied German citizenship to the Jews, he nevertheless added a clause which said that the right of the Jews to fly their own flag would be protected.




I have a very interesting book called European Political History, 1815 to 1870 Aspects of Liberalism. It has a heap of essays on problems that faced the post-Napoleonic Europe. This is from an essay written by Lewis B Namier titled Nationality and Liberty. The book inclides editorial noted from Eugene C Black. This is from an editorial note bfore the Nationality and Liberty essay. -

"British nationalism was territorial, and in France territorial and linguistic nationality aproximately coincided. The nationalism that emerged in the nintenth century was linguistic and the tribal or racial patterns bore little relation to real estate holdings. There could be no liveral resolution to the question of nationality. Nationalism might be subordinated or ignored. It might triumpth over liberalism. The simultaneous attainment of nationalism and liberty was impossible. Centuries of migration and conquest has hopessly confused the linguistic map. Germans (and linguistic nationalism was peculiarly although not uniquely German ) dominated the central European plain. They also dominated the central European plain. They also controlled all urban areas of the Hapsburg Empire. ( to be urban was to be German ) and lived in colonies and pockets as far afield as the Caucas, the central Balkans, and northern Italy."

" The problem was compounded by the master nationalities which had , or claimed to have histories, and the peasant or subjest nationalities which did not. Germans, Italians, Poles and Hungarians could assert more or less valid historical claims to an independent political past. Checks, Slovenes and Ruthenes and a myriad of other peoples- the subjest nationalities- also attempted, often with more art than substance, to justify their national existence"

-Eugene C Black ( European Political History 1815-1870/ Aspects of Liberalism )

Europe was formed by Empires. Remember that Europe was pretty much Rome, Greece, Germania, French Gaul, Britannia and Spain.

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I felt very shocked when I saw footage of the Austrians lining the streets to cheer Hitler and the Nazi in. It made moe sense when I learned how many Austrians like Hitler considered themselves to be German.

I can understand why the German history appeals to so many. I like that Romans were afraid of the Germanic people. I like that the west side of the Rhine was a place that most Romans were happy to avoid. The history of the Germany is pretty cool. If it wasnt for the Germans we would all be speaking Roman... zing.


The history of the English language really started with the arrival of three Germanic tribes who invaded Britain during the 5th century AD. These tribes, the Angles, the Saxons and the Jutes, crossed the North Sea from what today is Denmark and northern Germany. At that time the inhabitants of Britain spoke a Celtic language. But most of the Celtic speakers were pushed west and north by the invaders - mainly into what is now Wales, Scotland and Ireland. The Angles came from "Englaland" [sic] and their language was called "Englisc" - from which the words "England" and "English" are derived.
http://www.englishclub.com/english-language-history.htm

Anyway. So Hitler thought he was German.When WW1 broke out Hitler was very happy. To understand the lead up to WW1 you must first read about some stuff. wiki-

In the 19th century, the major European powers had gone to great lengths to maintain a balance of power (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_power_(international_relations)) throughout Europe, resulting in the existence of a complex network of political and military alliances throughout the continent by 1900.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#cite_note-Willmott15-9) These had started in 1815, with the Holy Alliance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Alliance) between Prussia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussia), Russia, and Austria. Then, in October 1873, German Chancellor Otto von Bismarck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck) negotiated the League of the Three Emperors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_the_Three_Emperors) (German: Dreikaiserbund) between the monarchs of Austria-Hungary, Russia and Germany. This agreement failed because Austria-Hungary and Russia could not agree over Balkan policy, leaving Germany and Austria-Hungary in an alliance formed in 1879, called the Dual Alliance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_Alliance,_1879). This was seen as a method of countering Russian influence in the Balkans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkans) as the Ottoman Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire) continued to weaken

Germanicus
09-03-2013, 01:39 PM
So Hitler is happy anyway that war has broken out and he joins the German army to fight for Germany.



Opening hostilities

Confusion among the Central Powers

The strategy of the Central Powers suffered from miscommunication. Germany had promised to support Austria-Hungary's invasion of Serbia, but interpretations of what this meant differed. Previously tested deployment plans had been replaced early in 1914, but the replacements had never been tested in exercises. Austro-Hungarian leaders believed Germany would cover its northern flank against Russia.[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#cite_note-33) Germany, however, envisioned Austria-Hungary directing most of its troops against Russia, while Germany dealt with France. This confusion forced the Austro-Hungarian Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Hungarian_Army) to divide its forces between the Russian and Serbian fronts.


Hitler fought on the front lines against the French.



German forces in Belgium and France

Main article: Western Front (World War I) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Front_(World_War_I))
At the outbreak of World War I, the German army (consisting in the West of seven field armies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Army_order_of_battle_(1914))) carried out a modified version of the Schlieffen Plan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlieffen_Plan). This marched German armies through neutral Belgium and into France, before turning southwards to encircle the French army on the German border.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#cite_note-AJPT2-13) Since France had declared that it would "keep full freedom of acting in case of a war between Germany and Russia", Germany had to expect the possibility of an attack by France on one front and by Russia on the other. To meet such a scenario, the Schlieffen Plan stated that Germany must try to defeat France quickly (as had happened in the Franco-Prussian War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War) of 1870–71).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I
Ok. So you got all that. Hitler thinks he is German he joins the German army to fight for what I guess he hopes would result in a return to some type of 'Greater Germania'.

So Hitler is on the front lines and he said the French were a great opposition. He says the French had been made out to be ushgovers by the German propaganda leading in and that this was not the case at all. Hitler saw many of his German comrades die during battle. The fighting was long and tough,

Hitler says that the war came to a tipping point when the Germans on the Eastern front began to get on top of the Russians. Hitler was very happy because he thought that Germany was on the brink of defeating the French who he considered to be on the brink of being broken by this stage. Hitler thought that now Germany could concentrate more troops on the Western front and the French who knew this and would be expecting the same thing as Hitler would be broken in spirit and defeated by this coming final German thrust.

Hitler says around this time that Germany should have been finishing off the French that a strange thing happened. Support for the war in Germany had faded. The troops on the front line were reading that back home many were now wanting an end to the fighting. Hitler couldnt believe it. He blamed the German propaganda of the time for not keeping the public supporting the troops.

Germanicus
09-03-2013, 01:40 PM
Then something happened that made Hitler furious. Just when Hitler thought that he and his German comrades should be breaking the French and ending the hard and long fighting, Hitler hears that some German workers in Germany have gone on strike to protest the war. There were strikes at ammunition factories. Hitler considered these Germans to be sabotuers and traitors to the nation of Germany.

The strikes at the ammunition factories did worse damage to the German chances of vistory against the French in Hitlers opinion because now the French, who Hitler considered almost beaten, were hearing of German strikes. Hitler knew this would serve to rally the French and lift their almost broken spirits. Hitler considered french and English propaganda to be superiour to that of the propaganda Germany had used for the war.

Around this time Hitler gets blinded in a mustard gas attack and is taken back to Germany to a hospital. Hitler did not like chemical weapons and considered them to be dishonourable or something like that. He didnt think the French shoud have used mustard gas.

So now Hitler is back home in a German hospital with burning and bind eyes. While in hospital Hitler hears that Germany has decided to end the war and bring the troops home. Hearing the news of the German withdrawal makes Hitler cry.

When Hitler regains his sight he discovers that in his opinion the nation of Germany has been taken over by communists. Hiler blames communists for the strikes that Hitler thinks cost Germany the war.

So in Hitlers opinion the commies have lost Germany the war and now they control Germany. Hitler thinks his German comrades died for less than nothing because Germany agrees to take all blame for the war and agrees to the harsh terms of the Treaty of Versailles.

In between WW1 and the National Socialist Party taking control of Germany Hitler sees the German people reduced to terrible poverty under the treaty terms imposed on them by the western powers of France and England. The Jewish community were managing the most well under the harsh conditions and Jewish Germans had the majority of the good professional jobs and leading business.

In my opinion people become wretched when a population suffers widespread poverty. Jack London explores this fact in his book/account of the east end The dispair of poverty makes wretched people and wretched people that are not English look for someone to blame and this makes people more likely to become racist. Hitler used the fact that the majority of professional jobs belonged to Jewish Germans to make the Jewish German communty a scapegoat. The boycotts of Jewish business and the and the what we would now consider to be hate speech in Hitlers speeches, in Hitlers manifesto/autobiograhy/propaganda tool - 'My Struggle'. ( Mein Kampf ) and in other German National Socialist Party/Nazi propaganda.


So if you are keeping up Hitler thinks he is German, he fights for Germany in WW1 and they kind of lose. He blames Communists and Jewish people. now he already has some kind of problem with Jewish people from living in Austria and somehow forming the opinion that Jewish people dominated Austria while he was younger and lived in Vienna after his parents both died. He is using the harsh conditions and struggle against communism to blame the Jewish community and to put doubt on the patriotism of German Jews.

Hitler helps form the small National Socialist party. Since the war he decided to follow his fathers lead and try being a statesman. His father was some kind of local governent official or something. So Hitler attends siminars and meetings and speeches and stuff mostly from ex- military guys and starts to form his own ideas for a party that was capable of fighting communism in Germany. Hitlers main ideas were anti-globalist. Hitlers dig thing was interest. He claims to have gotten all these ideas but Germany is and always has been a centre of high political thinking. The German Jewish community are a big reason for the high standard of politics in Germany. There are many many important Jewish thinkers in German history. The bulk of Hitlers stuff can be linked to a guy that came before him. Hitler is just tying together what has already been culminating. Hitler and the National Socialist Party cannot claim all credit for the ideas that made the economic miracle in Germany possible.

So yeah, Hitler helps form this new party and he kinda becomes their leader and influences the direction of the party. The National Socialist Party battles Communists on the streets of Berlin. There are gangs of thug commies and gangs of thug National Socialists having street fights and people like Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels writting script propaganda egging the street gangs on.

The Nazi Party gains influence and backing. The Party tries to take power in a failed coup in 1923 and Hitler is sentenced to five years in jail where he writes his successful book/manifesto Mein Kampf. Hitler seems to have admired the glory to Rome style of Julius Caesar. He tried to form a 'triumvirate' similar to what Ceasar got going with Pompius the Great and Marcus Crassus. Anyway he goes to jail and writes a book.

Hitlers book sells very well. It is so very racist. Incredibly racist. The book helps the Nazi Party become a real force. In the 1933 German election Hitlers National Socialist Party was the largest party in Germany by far and Hitler was able to make himself dictator of Germany by using German law called the enabling act.

Even though Hilters National Socialist Party was the largest party in Germany there were still many German communists and suppporters of other parties. Hitler needed to convince many but most Germans were actually happy that Hitler had ended what democracy had descended into under the crushing terms of the Treaty that the western powers has forced on Germany after WW1.

So Hitler and his party actually turn the German economy around. Hitler is leader but he eliminates any person that could fragment the party on the infamous Night of the Long Knives. The SA leadership were murdered to help Hitler take control of the regular German Army and become their Commander and Chied by having them take an oath of allegiance to Hitler personally.

Anyway Hitler has his rivals killed and gets things all his own way with only sichophants left he can force all his own ideas on the destiny of Germany.

Hitler and National Socialist econmics turns the German economy around in just 4 short years. People see change right away. After WW1 Germany was forced to endure The Treaty of Versailles which imposed crushing reparations payments on Germany. They were expected to reimburse the costs of the war for all participants — costs totaling three times the value of all the property in the country. When Hitler came to power German unemployment was 30% and the world was in The Great Depression. Yet he managed to turn it all around. He outsmarted the International Banking Cartel by issuing German Marks that were simiar to Lincoln Greenbacks. Many have called the German Government Currency of Hitlers Mark the Hitler Greeback.

Now Hitler turned things around in Germany and had many supporters around the world including Americans Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh. The racist book of Hitlers is a huge success. Hitler has made Germany the envy of the world but has also told German Jews that they were not full citizens, fired them from most jobs. Stamped a big racist J on their passports, Some Jewish Germans stayed in Germany, especially those that has fought for Germany in WW1 because most of them kept their good jobs.

The Nazi Germany in four years was envy of the world. Hitler was Time Magazine Man of the Year. This is from the article-.
"But Führer Hitler does not regard himself as a revolutionary; he has become so only by force of circumstances. Fascism has discovered that freedom--of press, speech, assembly--is a potential danger to its own security. In Fascist phraseology democracy is often coupled with Communism. The Fascist battle against freedom is often carried forward under the false slogan of "Down with Communism!" One of the chief German complaints against democratic Czechoslovakia last summer was that it was an "outpost of Communism."

-Time Magazine 1939

So you also have stuff like the American Jewish Gertrude Stein who was a prominent Jewish author nominating Hitler for a Nobel Peace Prize. I thought the Obama nomination was strange but Hitler?


Hitler was driven by hate and wanted to punish the people that he considered to be his enemies. the Jewish community that Hitler hated so much had fallen from the top of German society and were now living in ghettos. Hitler punished the Jewish people of Germany that didnt or couldnt move some place else.


Hitler is a total jerk to Jews but nobody seemed to care that much for a very long time. How can you tell an entire section of a communty that they are no longer full citizens? I know many Jews stayed and like I said, the Jews that fought in WW1 got to keep their jobs in many cases but still. I know that many Jews ended up fighting for Hitler in WW2 but still. I know some Jewish people thought enough of Hitler to think him worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize but still. Why did the world accept how racist Hitler was to Jews despite the poltical popularity that he enjoyed and the economic success that he brought to Germany? I know America still had sgregation at the time and was in most ways far more racist than Germany but still. I mean come on. Hitler was mean to the German Jews that stayed well before the war and he was showing every intention of doing this all along.

Germanicus
09-03-2013, 01:41 PM
So he deserved no peace prize. Hitler thought he was German and dreamed of a Greater Germania. He always intended to take back in his eyes nations like his birthplace Austria. Hitler always intended on defeating the French and getting revenge for how Germany lost WW2 and for how the german people were tretaed under the terms of the treaty. Hitler liked Caesar it seems so he had no problem about seeking Empire for Germany. He intended on taking France and on defeating the Comunists in the East. He wanted to use France and Russia to do the hard work for the people of Germany. He wanted to secure the whole of Europe pretty much.


So he makes the Jewish people poor as some kind of revenge in hid eyes. Then he starts taking back land he considers German like Austria where they lined the streets to cheer the Nazi in. Then he invades Poland. This is where he runs into trouble. Invading Poland caused England to declare war on Germany. Hitler did not seem to expect England to do this.


Anyway, Hitler and the Germans rolled over the French in a flash. In 1918 the French forced the Germans to sign an agreement to surrender indise a railcar. In 1940 Hitler had that same railcar taken out of a French Museum and forced the french to surrender. He wanted to humilate the French and stomp on them for the memory of his fallen comrades that he believed up until this point had died for nothing and for a nation that had not deserved their patriotism, sacrifice and heroism. Hitler was filled with hate and he wanted revenge.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiYG8l3-15E

Kabuki Joe
09-03-2013, 01:41 PM
...true story...

Germanicus
09-03-2013, 01:53 PM
I am worried that the conditions of poverty in places like Greece are creating conditions suitable for a new Hitler to emerge. The Golden Dawn and The English Defence League as well as groups like the French youth Spartans are racist against Muslims especially. Europe is getting racist. In Hungary a poltician called for some kind of public register of all Jews or something. I mean Jesus christ. People need to settle down and stop pointing fingers.

Prince Charles is worried about the rise in anti-Semitism around the world. So am I. Somehow Jews make an easy scapegoat for some people. People need to stop being wretched. People like one of my favourite authors Franz Kafka died because of the war and mostly because he was Jewish. Franz Kafka had three sisters that dies because he was Jewish. The hate of Hitler and many others caused horrible things to happen to people just because of who their Mum and Dad were. That is crazy. I hope the IMF can sort Europe out soon because racism is becoming a problem and racism is getting into poltics.

Love and not hate is what people need. The world is becoming full of hate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muu7FxdCG4U

I am sure you guys saw this.

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Greece is getting out of order.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Hb1RRjOEc

Pretty safe to say that Hitler knew not Joseph. Everyone needs to settle down. The world is going to hell. The Middle East is going crazy and nobody is helping. Israel is handing out Gas Masks. Imagine how Israeli schoolchildren are feeling.

In Europe the IMF conditions have created dispair. There is a heap of racism. In England the EDL is against Muslims. England has a very multicultural community with many Indians and Pakistanis and others. Racism is getting bad all over.

I blame Affirmative Action in the west. We cant blame religion. The colourblind approach is the best way to run a society. Especially a multicultural society.

Affirmative Action creates many evils. Bigtime right wing judge Clarrence Thomas hates Affirimtive Action because it devalues accomplishments. Clarence Thomas recieved help from affirmative action type schemes at Yale and he hates that this can be used to take credit away from him. He likes to believe he would have reached the same hieghts without affirmative action. Another significant critic of Affirmative Action or compensatory action was Malcolm X. Malcolm X said that Affirmative action was like the Adrican American communty would be asking for "more than equality."

Affirmative action devalues accomplshment. It creates a victimhood culture. It created resentment and jealousy within the communty.

I have noticed that some Aboriginals from Australia and some politicians have started calling Aboriginals 'First Australians' which seems offensive to me. I feel ike I am just as Australian as anyone and I feel that any person that becomes an Australian citizen is any less Australian than any other Australian. I do not support Land Rights vecause they create a Nazi-like mentality. One section of the citizenry believes themselves to be more importnt than the rest. And usually this section is a small minority. Addirmative action is wrong in all cases in my opinion.

There is no evidence that after all the years of liberal Affirmative Action that it actually works. In fact there is every reason to believe that it does not work.

The animosity created because of Affirmative Action is a worrisome thing.


Sowell writes that affirmative action policies encourage non-preferred groups to designate themselves as members of preferred groups (i.e., primary beneficiaries of affirmative action) to take advantage of group preference policies; that they tend to benefit primarily the most fortunate among the preferred group (e.g., upper and middle class blacks), often to the detriment of the least fortunate among the non-preferred groups (e.g., poor whites or Asians); that they reduce the incentives of both the preferred and non-preferred to perform at their best – the former because doing so is unnecessary and the latter because it can prove futile – thereby resulting in net losses for society as a whole; and that they increase animosity toward preferred groups.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action

Germanicus
09-03-2013, 02:00 PM
Am I leaving anything important out? What do you think comrade?

Hitlers Mein Kampf was a tool of propaganda. He is surprisingly honest about that in the book. He spends as much time on propaganda as he does on the problem of Syphilis which he obviously had very strong opinions about. Mein Kampf must be taken with a grain of salt. I mean there are different versions. It has been tweaked by the party to suit the aims and needs of the party.

It does give a better insight into the mind of Hitler than the nonsense on the History Channel. I find the horror movie music that accompanies anything about Hitler to be insulting and undocumentary-like. It is hard to read about WW2 from a reliable unbiased source.

Germanicus
09-03-2013, 02:03 PM
To understand WW2 you must also understand The Spanish Civil War. Good Luck.

Capitalism. Communism. Fascism ( some Hitlerites are offended if you call Hitler a fascist. They make a distinstion betwen Mussolini who they say is fascist and Hitler. Many believe in some kind of Hitlerism.

Germanicus
09-03-2013, 02:14 PM
Jack Londons book The People of the Abyss is great at looking at how and why people become wretched when they live in poverty.

He actually lived in the East End with the wretched poor and tried to understand them before writing the book. Much of the book is what happened to him. Method writing?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKtOLuYtLrY

http://www.online-literature.com/london/people-of-the-abyss/

West End Girls.

Germanicus
09-03-2013, 03:28 PM
I think people need to be aware of propaganda these days. It seems to be everywhere. In tv shows. Books. Movies.

I guess everything is propaganda in a way. Not all propaganda is bad. If the cause is good then propaganda that works for the cause is good.

Modern propaganda is sneaky. Some propagand says one thing but means another. Sometimes propaganda gives you the happy ending and good message at the end but it is the middle that contains the propaganda. Like for example the American skinhead movie The Believer. It stars big hollyhood star Ryan Gosling. I only saw it once but it seemed to contain a great deal of script that would recruit skinheads. I guess this was not intentional but the film gives racist viewpoints a vehicle that they should never have been given. I saw the movie ages ago. It was before he was a big deal. He was also in a good film about a school shooting. Another questionable topic. The films hero was some kid that almost shoots his classmates. I think he doesnt do it, I cant remember. I only saw that once too. Anyway, The Believer ends all happy and has the right message but there is some messed up stuff before that that may appeal to the wretched.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psJbF8G6Zjw

I think free speech can go too far.

I liked the Ryan Gosling movie he was in with George Clooney that won all the awards. It really humanized US politicians for me.. (: They have problems just like us. The Ides of March


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixr-0RNAqn4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF33EJ85-1I

I have been thinking about this song. I think it is about Israel somehow. Hate is never the answer. This is a very cranky song. I think.

Children in Israel are seeing their parents bring home gas masks. Things are not good. What has Israel got to do with what Obama does?

Germanicus
09-03-2013, 11:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ0F6kHGhg4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30DMi866ThM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY4ytsKGdf4

Germanicus
09-04-2013, 02:07 AM
Ultimatum

The most powerful concentration of French warships at the time was the squadron at the port of Mers-el-Kébir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mers-el-Kébir) in French Algeria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Algeria). This consisted of the World-War-I-era battleships Provence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Provence) and Bretagne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Bretagne), the modern battleships (or battlecruisers) Dunkerque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Dunkerque) and Strasbourg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Strasbourg), the seaplane tender Commandant Teste (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commandant_Teste), and six destroyers under the command of Admiral Marcel-Bruno Gensoul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel-Bruno_Gensoul). British Admiral James Somerville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Somerville_(admiral)) of Force H (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_H), based in Gibraltar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar), was ordered to deliver an ultimatum to the French, stating:
It is impossible for us, your comrades up to now, to allow your fine ships to fall into the power of the German enemy. We are determined to fight on until the end, and if we win, as we think we shall, we shall never forget that France was our Ally, that our interests are the same as hers, and that our common enemy is Germany. Should we conquer we solemnly declare that we shall restore the greatness and territory of France. For this purpose we must make sure that the best ships of the French Navy are not used against us by the common foe. In these circumstances, His Majesty's Government have instructed me to demand that the French Fleet now at Mers el Kebir and Oran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oran) shall act in accordance with one of the following alternatives; (a) Sail with us and continue the fight until victory against the Germans.
(b) Sail with reduced crews under our control to a British port. The reduced crews would be repatriated at the earliest moment.
If either of these courses is adopted by you we will restore your ships to France at the conclusion of the war or pay full compensation if they are damaged meanwhile.
(c) Alternatively if you feel bound to stipulate that your ships should not be used against the Germans unless they break the Armistice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_with_France_(Second_Compiègne)), then sail them with us with reduced crews to some French port in the West Indies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Indies) — Martinique (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martinique) for instance — where they can be demilitarised to our satisfaction, or perhaps be entrusted to the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) and remain safe until the end of the war, the crews being repatriated.
If you refuse these fair offers, I must with profound regret, require you to sink your ships within 6 hours.
Finally, failing the above, I have the orders from His Majesty's Government to use whatever force may be necessary to prevent your ships from falling into German hands.



Attack

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/Mogador_03-07-1940_jpg.jpg/220px-Mogador_03-07-1940_jpg.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mogador_03-07-1940_jpg.jpg) http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.22wmf12/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mogador_03-07-1940_jpg.jpg)
Destroyer Mogador running aground after having been hit by a 15-in round


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Cuirassé_Bretagne_03-07-1940_jpg.jpg/220px-Cuirassé_Bretagne_03-07-1940_jpg.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cuirassé_Bretagne_03-07-1940_jpg.jpg) http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.22wmf12/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cuirassé_Bretagne_03-07-1940_jpg.jpg)
Battleship Bretagne exploding


The British force consisted of the battlecruiser HMS Hood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Hood_(51)), battleships HMS Valiant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Valiant_(1914)) and Resolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Resolution_(09)), and the aircraft carrier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier) HMS Ark Royal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ark_Royal_(91)), plus an escort of cruisers and destroyers. Despite the approximate equivalence of force, the British had several decisive advantages. The French fleet was anchored in a narrow harbour and despite the unequivocal terms of the ultimatum, did not expect an attack and was not fully prepared for battle. The main armament of the Dunkerque and Strasbourg was grouped on their bows and could not immediately be brought to bear. The British capital ships, with their 15-inch (381 mm) guns, also fired a heavier broadside (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadside) than the French ones.
Before negotiations were formally terminated, British Fairey Swordfish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Swordfish) planes escorted by obsolete Blackburn Skuas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Skua) were dispatched from the Ark Royal to drop magnetic mines in the path of the French ships' route to sea. This force was intercepted by French Curtiss H-75 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_H-75) fighters. One of the Skuas was shot down by French fighters and crashed into the sea, killing its two-man crew, the only British fatalities in the action.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Mers-el-Kébir#cite_note-Ehrengardt-9)
A short while later, on Churchill's instructions, the British ships opened fire against the French
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Mers-el-Kébir


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTYRGi-Q7U4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_PAHbqq-o4

Germanicus
09-04-2013, 02:45 AM
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What is it with soccer hooligans and Nazi salutes? Australian Mark Bosnish made a Nazi salute while playing in the English Premier League.

But after falling out of love ''with life, with everything'' the boy who grew up the son of a Croatian migrant in Liverpool has found his heart again.



http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/at-home-with-mark-bosnich-20121103-28quf.html

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http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2007/s1827348.htm



Croatian, Serbian fans clash at Australian Open


EMMA ALBERICI: In sporting parlance, high-ranking tennis players who lose in the first round are often referred to as casualties.

But on the opening day of the Australian Open in Melbourne, the real casualties have been off the court.

This afternoon, police kicked out more than 150 supporters from Melbourne's Rod Laver Arena, following an ugly brawl between Serbian and Croatian fans.


There is a great deal of racial tension in Australia. The Croations and Serbians brawl at the tennis if you can believe it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7La8OlX6xZo

Riot squads for Bulldogs matches


A riot squad will be among 150 police officers enforcing a clampdown on crowd violence at Friday night's Bulldogs game in Newcastle.
Extra police will patrol every home and away Bulldogs match in NSW this season, with officer numbers based on a weekly risk assessment.



http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/03/22/1142703420172.html?from=rss]

Bankstown in Stdney has a healthy Lebanese population. There is a great deal of racial tension at some Bulldogs games and riot squads are on hand. I think it is somewhat hysterical. A riot is a public disturbance of three or more people so the media can blow thing out of proportion and sensationalize issues. I feel that bulldogs fands have been used to demonize the Lebanese community in some ways really.

The Bulldogs fans are just like any other fans.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxQ6_DJRlag

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgCR4AboH9A
(:Its everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPOpXsWD8hQ

Germanicus
09-04-2013, 05:55 AM
"'To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory – Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine

So Hitler and the Nazi party supported the peope of Palestine?

Were the Nazi really crazy die-hard white supremacist?

"The descendants of the convicts in Australia should
inspire in us nothing but a feeling of supreme
indifference. If their vitality is not strong enough to
enable them to increase at a rate proportionate to the
size of the territories they occupy, tliat is their own
look out, and it is no use their appeaUng to us for
help. For my own part, I have no objection at all to
seeing the surplus populations of prolific Asia being
drawn, as to a magnet, to their empty spaces. Let them
all work out their own salvation! And let me repeat
^it is nothing to do with us" - Hitler



"In the future we must guard against these
haemorrhages of German blood. It is eastwards, only
and always eastv/ards, that the veins of our race must
expand. It is the direction which Nature herself has
decreed for the expansion of the German peoples. The
rigorous climate with which the East confronts them
allows them to retain their quahties as hardy and
virile men; and the vivid contrasts they find there help
to keep fresh their love and their longing for their own
country. Transplant a German to Kiev, and he
remains a perfect German. But transplant him to
Miami, and you make a degenerate of him — in other
words, an American.

Since colonization is not an activity which Germans
feel called upon to pursue, Germany should never
make common cause with the colonizing nations and
should always abstain from supporting them in their
colonial aspirations. What we want is a Monroe
doctrine in Europe. 'Europe for the Europeans!', a
doctrine, the corollary of which should be that
Europeans refrain from meddling in the affairs of
other continents." -Hitler




"Taking everything into consideration, Europe's
policy of colonization has ended in a complete failure.
I have not forgotten the one instance of apparent
success, but a success that is purely material, and it is
of that monster which calls itself the United States
that T wish to talk. And monster is the only possible
name for it! At a time when the whole of Europe —
their own mother — is fighting desperately to ward off
the bolshevist peril, the United States, guided by the
Jew-ridden Roosevelt, can think of nothing better to
do than to place their fabulous material resources at
the disposal of these Asiatic barbarians, who are
determined to strangle her. Looking back, I am deeply
distressed at the thought of those millions of Germans,
men of good faith, who emigrated to the United States
and who are now the backbone of the country. For
these men, mark you, are not merely good Germans,
lost to their fatherland; rather, they have become
enemies, more implacably hostile than any others. The
German emigrant retains, it is true, his qualities of
industry and hard work, but he very quickly loses his
soul. There is nothing more unnatural than a German
who has become an expatriate. " - Hitler





"It is, of course, possible to make out a case for the

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success achieved in peopling continents which before
had been empty. The United States and Australia
afford good examples. Success, certainly— but only on
the material side. They are artificial edifices, bodies
without age, of which it is impossible to say whether
they are still in a state of infancy or whether they
have already been touched by senility. In those con-
tinents which were inhabited, failure has been even
more marked. In them, the white races have imposed
their will by force, and the influence they have had on
the native inhabitants has been negligible; the Hindus
have remained Hindus, the Chinese have remained
Chinese, and the Moslems are still Moslems. There
have been no profound transformations, and such
changes as have occurred are less marked in the
religious field, notwithstanding the tremendous efforts
of the Christian missionaries, than in any other. There
have been a few odd conversions the sincerity of
which are open to considerable doubt— except, per-
haps, in the case of a few simpletons and mentally
deficients. The white races did, of course, give some
things to the natives, and they were the worst gifts
that they could possibly have made, those plagues of
our own modern world— materialism, fanaticism,
alcoholism and syphilis. For the rest, since these
peoples possessed qualities of their own which were superior to anything we could offer them, they have
remained essentially unchanged. Where imposition by
force was attempted, the results were even more
disastrous, and common sense, realizing the futility of
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such measures, should preclude any recourse to their
introduction. One solitary success must be conceded
to the colonizers : everywhere they have succeeded in
arousing hatred, a hatred that urges these peoples,
awakened from their slumbers by us, to rise and drive
us out. Indeed, it looks almost as though they had
av/akened solely and simply for that purpose! Can
anyone assert that colonization has increased the
number of Christians in the world? Where are those
conversions en masse which mark the success of
Islam? Here and there one finds isolated islets of
Christians, Christians in name, that is, rather than by
conviction; and that is the sum total of the successes
of this magnificent Christian religion, the guardian of
supreme Truth ! " - Hitler




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAuTM_0ZRt0

Do you knw who Franz Ferdinand is?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNrW1D1gTE0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=los6obvBbqU

Germanicus
09-04-2013, 06:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA132Kx-rmA


...ever since the deliberate mass bombing of civilians in the second world war, and as a direct response to it, the international community has outlawed the practice. It first tried to do so in the Fourth Geneva Convention (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention) of 1949, but the UK and the US would not agree, since to do so would have been an admission of guilt for their systematic "area bombing" of German and Japanese civilians.
— A.C. Grayling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.C._Grayling)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

Wer kennt die Zahl?; An deinen Wunden sieht man die Qual; der Namenlosen die hier verbrannt; im Höllenfeuer aus Menschenhand.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJr5l7j8VeU

Germanicus
09-04-2013, 07:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnUs5Q0DsLs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4yoPEMY6Eo&bpctr=1378298105

Germanicus
09-04-2013, 07:17 AM
First of all, the personal side of things: I understand very well that there is a world of difference between my own outlook on life and attitude, and that of President Roosevelt. Roosevelt came from an extremely wealthy family. By birth and origin he belonged to that class of people that is privileged in a democracy and assured of advancement. I myself was only the child of a small and poor family, and I had to struggle through life by work and effort in spite of immense hardships. As a member of the privileged class, Roosevelt experienced the [First] World War in a position under Wilson’s shadow [as assistant secretary of the Navy]. As a result, he only knew the agreeable consequences of a conflict between nations from which some profited while others lost their lives. During this same period, I lived very differently. I was not one of those who made history or profits, but rather one of those who carried out orders. As an ordinary soldier during those four years, I tried to do my duty in the face of the enemy. Of course, I returned from the war just as poor as when I entered in the fall of 1914. I thus shared my fate with millions of others, while Mr. Roosevelt shared his with the so-called upper ten thousand.
After the war, while Mr. Roosevelt tested his skills in financial speculation in order to profit personally from the inflation, that is, from the misfortune of others, I still lay in a military hospital along with many hundreds of thousands of others. Experienced in business, financially secure and enjoying the patronage of his class, Roosevelt then finally chose a career in politics. During this same period, I struggled as a nameless and unknown man for the rebirth of my nation, which was the victim of the greatest injustice in its entire history.
Two different paths in life! Franklin Roosevelt took power in the United States as the candidate of a thoroughly capitalistic party, which helps those who serve it. When I became the Chancellor of the German Reich, I was the leader of a popular national movement, which I had created myself. The powers that supported Mr. Roosevelt were the same powers I fought against, out of concern for the fate of my people, and out of deepest inner conviction. The “brain trust” that served the new American president was made up of members of the same national group that we fought against in Germany as a parasitical expression of humanity, and which we began to remove from public life.
And yet, we also had something in common: Franklin Roosevelt took control of a country with an economy that had been ruined as a result of democratic influences, and I assumed the leadership of a Reich that was also on the edge of complete ruin, thanks to democracy. There were 13 million unemployed in the United States, while Germany had seven million unemployed and another seven million part-time workers. In both countries, public finances were in chaos, and it seemed that the spreading economic depression could not be stopped.
From then on, things developed in the United States and in the German Reich in such a way that future generations will have no difficulty in making a definitive evaluation of the two different socio-political theories.
http://greatspeeches.wordpress.com/2008/12/28/germany’s-declaration-of-war-against-the-united-states-december-11-1941/


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1hv4t_will-smith-boom-shake-the-room_music