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paul alan
09-09-2013, 02:01 PM
On Saturday, Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming delivered the weekly Republican address (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/weekly-gop-address-makes-no-mention-of-syria?ref=fpb). He ignored Syria, presumably because his party is deeply conflicted on the issue. (For the record, so am I.) Instead, he demanded repeal of the Affordable Care Act. “The health care law,” he declared, “has proven to be unpopular, unworkable and unaffordable,” and he predicted “sticker shock” in the months ahead.

So, another week, another denunciation of Obamacare.

Who cares?



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/09/opinion/krugman-the-wonk-gap.html?ref=opinion&_r=0 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=10)

Chris
09-09-2013, 02:20 PM
Who cares?


But you contradict yourself by posting it.

paul alan
09-11-2013, 12:34 PM
But Mr. Barrasso’s remarks were actually interesting, although not in the way he intended.

You see, all the recent news on health costs has been good. So Mr. Barrasso is predicting sticker shock precisely when serious fears of such a shock are fading fast.

Why would he do that?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/09/opinion/krugman-the-wonk-gap.html?ref=opinion&_r=0


:)

patrickt
09-11-2013, 02:59 PM
On Saturday, Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming delivered the weekly Republican address (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/weekly-gop-address-makes-no-mention-of-syria?ref=fpb). He ignored Syria, presumably because his party is deeply conflicted on the issue. (For the record, so am I.) Instead, he demanded repeal of the Affordable Care Act. “The health care law,” he declared, “has proven to be unpopular, unworkable and unaffordable,” and he predicted “sticker shock” in the months ahead.

So, another week, another denunciation of Obamacare.

Who cares?



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/09/opinion/krugman-the-wonk-gap.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

A man who thinks things roll up also thinks Paul Krugman is a reliable source. Not surprising.

jillian
09-11-2013, 03:15 PM
A man who thinks things roll up also thinks Paul Krugman is a reliable source. Not surprising.

not surprising that you'd think you're smarter than the nobel prize winning economist.

you really need to get into that whole fact-based-reality thing.

Chris
09-11-2013, 03:16 PM
The nobel prize winning economist turned into a political gadfly.

Matty
09-11-2013, 03:43 PM
On Saturday, Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming delivered the weekly Republican address (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/weekly-gop-address-makes-no-mention-of-syria?ref=fpb). He ignored Syria, presumably because his party is deeply conflicted on the issue. (For the record, so am I.) Instead, he demanded repeal of the Affordable Care Act. “The health care law,” he declared, “has proven to be unpopular, unworkable and unaffordable,” and he predicted “sticker shock” in the months ahead.

So, another week, another denunciation of Obamacare.

Who cares?



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/09/opinion/krugman-the-wonk-gap.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

“has proven to be unpopular, unworkable and unaffordable,”



and you ask "who cares"



typical liberal mentality, that's why not a single solitary Republican was stupid enough to vote for it.



Mainecoons
09-11-2013, 03:44 PM
The nobel prize winning economist turned into a political gadfly.

And the other Nobel Prize winner (for peace) turning into a war monger.

So much for the Nobel Prize. Seems the main reason for getting it these days is being a liberal clown.

Matty
09-11-2013, 03:45 PM
not surprising that you'd think you're smarter than the nobel prize winning economist.

you really need to get into that whole fact-based-reality thing.



well but,, the gave obummer a nobel prize too and he didn't even do shit to earn it,, so there that izzzz whizz!

bladimz
09-11-2013, 03:50 PM
On Saturday, Senator John Barrasso of Wyoming delivered the weekly Republican address (http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/weekly-gop-address-makes-no-mention-of-syria?ref=fpb). He ignored Syria, presumably because his party is deeply conflicted on the issue. (For the record, so am I.) Instead, he demanded repeal of the Affordable Care Act. “The health care law,” he declared, “has proven to be unpopular, unworkable and unaffordable,” and he predicted “sticker shock” in the months ahead.

So, another week, another denunciation of Obamacare.

Who cares?



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/09/opinion/krugman-the-wonk-gap.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
Since he can't offer anything concerning a GOP consensus on the Syrian issue, he immediately falls back into the ever-popular "repeal ObamaCare" rhetoric. Comfy, cozy and oh so familiar. I bet he got a big round of applause.

Some of you guys think Krugman's a hack, but at least he's a Nobel-prize winning hack.

Chris
09-11-2013, 04:12 PM
Since he can't offer anything concerning a GOP consensus on the Syrian issue, he immediately falls back into the ever-popular "repeal ObamaCare" rhetoric. Comfy, cozy and oh so familiar. I bet he got a big round of applause.

Some of you guys think Krugman's a hack, but at least he's a Nobel-prize winning hack.



Let me know when you want to discuss Krugman's ideas.

Mainecoons
09-11-2013, 04:51 PM
Yeah, so's Obama. I have to keep reminding you of that. Getting senile?

Bonehead doesn't have to do anything--the Russians took care of it.

AmazonTania
09-11-2013, 05:35 PM
not surprising that you'd think you're smarter than the nobel prize winning economist.

you really need to get into that whole fact-based-reality thing.

You'd be surprised about who they would give a nobel prize these days. Especially in the field of economics...


http://youtu.be/mFdnA5UNmVw

zelmo1234
09-11-2013, 05:39 PM
Since he can't offer anything concerning a GOP consensus on the Syrian issue, he immediately falls back into the ever-popular "repeal ObamaCare" rhetoric. Comfy, cozy and oh so familiar. I bet he got a big round of applause.

Some of you guys think Krugman's a hack, but at least he's a Nobel-prize winning hack.

What I do not understand is how anyone can be for Syria and Against the Iraq war. That is the biggest problem that I have with this entire issue?

Chris
09-11-2013, 05:50 PM
“The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.” ― Friedrich von Hayek



The video was hilarious.

Peter1469
09-11-2013, 06:35 PM
What I do not understand is how anyone can be for Syria and Against the Iraq war. That is the biggest problem that I have with this entire issue?

The call for war with Syria are based on humanitarian concerns. Not national security interests. Here is a good article that explains (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/358171/was-samantha-power-speech-stanley-kurtz).


The president’s speech confirms that he is committed to taking significant strategic risks on behalf of strictly humanitarian goals. That is not typical of American foreign policy, which is precisely what U.N. Ambassador Samantha Power aims to change, and precisely why we’ve run into trouble.


In Afghanistan, at least initially, we were acting on national security interests.

patrickt
09-11-2013, 07:02 PM
not surprising that you'd think you're smarter than the nobel prize winning economist.

you really need to get into that whole fact-based-reality thing.

You think, even after Barack Obama, there is some sort of correlation between intelligence and a Nobel Prize? Your Nobel Prize winning economist was a shill for Enron. Your Nobel Prize winning President has never accomplished anything worthwhile.

Of course, Rigoberta Menchu Tum, the Guatemalan activist who fabricated her autobiography and supported murderous Communist guerrillas wib a Nobel Prize, too. Maybe there is a special category for people who fabricate autobiographies. That might be how Obama got his. And we can't forget the brilliant, albeit dishonest, Sen. Al Gore. And, President Carter. The President who had to wait for Barack Obama to get out of the cellar.

As for fact-based, you're hopeless there and reality is a fantasy for you.

Go ahead and hang on every word of evil men like Paul Krugman and Barack Obama if it makes you feel better.

Chris
09-11-2013, 07:30 PM
Nobel prize has about as much meaning as racism these days. Next to none. But one is good for playing cards and the other for appealing to authority.

paul alan
09-14-2013, 10:27 AM
The biggest insult and lie Putin could fling at Obama is "acting like George Bush"

Now that hurts ....



:tongue:

BB-35
09-14-2013, 01:05 PM
Trust me,that's not the biggest insult that old Komitet gosudarstvennoy bezopasnosti killer can 'fling' at Obama

Chris
09-14-2013, 01:13 PM
The biggest insult and lie Putin could fling at Obama is "acting like George Bush"

Now that hurts ....


:tongue:





Why, Obama is just a clone of Bush, just more of the same.

Mainecoons
09-14-2013, 01:29 PM
It was neither a lie nor an insult, Paul, it was a simple statement of fact.

Adelaide
09-14-2013, 04:02 PM
Nobel prize has about as much meaning as racism these days. Next to none. But one is good for playing cards and the other for appealing to authority.

It has a lot of meaning in the literature, science and medicine categories. There have been a couple of gaffes and notable mistakes but they still have meaning. Obama getting the peace prize was a 5-star fuck-up, but other categories still have a lot of honor and a lot of meaning associated with them in academia. It's also partly an incentive for extraordinary people to do extraordinary work in their fields. So far as I know, the peace prize has almost always been controversial because there are several people who absolutely should have gotten it and didn't, and several who absolutely should not have gotten it but did (including Obama).

But the categories of physics, chemistry, physiology/medicine and literature still have a lot of integrity intact. The laureates in those fields shouldn't have their achievement pissed on because Obama got the stupid peace prize or because the prize in economics is controversial.

paul alan
09-14-2013, 05:26 PM
The biggest insult and lie Putin could fling at Obama is "acting like George Bush"

Now that hurts ....


:tongue:

He wanted to compare Obama to Ronnie Reagan .... but he didn't want to insult Obama that far ... right now ....

:)

Chris
09-14-2013, 05:32 PM
It has a lot of meaning in the literature, science and medicine categories. There have been a couple of gaffes and notable mistakes but they still have meaning. Obama getting the peace prize was a 5-star fuck-up, but other categories still have a lot of honor and a lot of meaning associated with them in academia. It's also partly an incentive for extraordinary people to do extraordinary work in their fields. So far as I know, the peace prize has almost always been controversial because there are several people who absolutely should have gotten it and didn't, and several who absolutely should not have gotten it but did (including Obama).

But the categories of physics, chemistry, physiology/medicine and literature still have a lot of integrity intact. The laureates in those fields shouldn't have their achievement pissed on because Obama got the stupid peace prize or because the prize in economics is controversial.


Not sure I've ever agreed with a nobel prize in literature. Art is as difficult an area to measure as politics and economics. hard sciences, sure.

Chris
09-14-2013, 05:34 PM
He wanted to compare Obama to Ronnie Reagan .... but he didn't want to insult Obama that far ... right now ....

:)



How is that going, paul, talking to yourselves? Anything to say on the topic?

ptif219
09-14-2013, 06:09 PM
Congressman Graves has a continuing budget resolution that will delay funding Obama care for a year and will fund the rest of government for a year.

I do not hear of any solution from Reid or the democrats. If this Passes the house and Reid and Obama stop it the government shutdown will be on the democrats

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/12/republicans-introduce-plan-to-stop-obamacare-without-shutting-down-government/

paul alan
09-14-2013, 06:22 PM
Bingo! You got it tiger ....

:yap:

Mainecoons
09-14-2013, 06:25 PM
Another impressive post from Paul!

ptif219
09-14-2013, 06:42 PM
Another impressive post from Paul!

He doesn't like it when you show how the democrats are the do nothing obstructionist party

paul alan
09-15-2013, 01:00 PM
Bingo! You got it tiger ....

:yap:

Professor Peabody
09-17-2013, 02:15 AM
not surprising that you'd think you're smarter than the nobel prize winning economist.

you really need to get into that whole fact-based-reality thing.

Obama won a Nobel Peace prize while using drones to kill hundreds of people.