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ptif219
09-12-2013, 01:57 PM
Do you know you need to fill out a huge application for Obamacare. You also need to show proof of citizenship.

If you need to show proof here than i see no argument left for voter ID


http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottgottlieb/2013/04/03/to-sign-up-for-obamacare-start-filling-out-the-forms-now-and-hire-a-good-accountant/



Members of your household could be asked to upload proof of income, proof of citizenship and even proof of tribal membership. Have you smoked in the last 12 months? The government wants to know.

nic34
09-12-2013, 02:06 PM
Have you smoked in the last 12 months? The government wants to know.

No, the insurance companies want to know. Obamacare is not government healthcare.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2011/01/health_care_myths.html

Ravi
09-12-2013, 02:08 PM
I think we should let anyone sign up, no questions asked.

ptif219
09-12-2013, 02:09 PM
No, the insurance companies want to know. Obamacare is not government healthcare.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2011/01/health_care_myths.html


Read the link these are Obamacare federal government forms reviewed by 3 government departments including the IRS

ptif219
09-12-2013, 02:09 PM
I think we should let anyone sign up, no questions asked.


It is law Obama will fine you

nic34
09-12-2013, 02:16 PM
Read the link these are Obamacare federal government forms reviewed by 3 government departments including the IRS


http://www.politifact.com/texas/article/2013/sep/03/paperwork-claim-about-obamacare-mostly-collapses/

ptif219
09-12-2013, 02:23 PM
http://www.politifact.com/texas/article/2013/sep/03/paperwork-claim-about-obamacare-mostly-collapses/


You show a liberal fact check? That is irrelevant because I am talking the initial application you have to fill out one time.

You can try and prove it wrong but it is fact.

Agravan
09-12-2013, 02:45 PM
I think we should let anyone sign up, no questions asked."Obamacare will not cover illegals" ..."You lie"
was right, then.

patrickt
09-12-2013, 02:49 PM
Obviously, there is an attempt on the part of the Democrat congress who passed this law to suppress participation.

nic34
09-12-2013, 03:00 PM
There IS an attempt on the part of the repub congress to DEFUND Obamacare by shutting down the government...


Tea partiers rally against GOP’s ‘phony votes’ to defund Obamacare




http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/10/tea-partiers-rally-against-gops-phony-votes-to-defund-obamacare/

Chris
09-12-2013, 03:03 PM
Hey, nic, is Obamacare voluntary?

nic34
09-12-2013, 03:06 PM
Yes.

Agravan
09-12-2013, 03:06 PM
There IS an attempt on the part of the repub congress to DEFUND Obamacare by shutting down the government...


Tea partiers rally against GOP’s ‘phony votes’ to defund Obamacare




http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/10/tea-partiers-rally-against-gops-phony-votes-to-defund-obamacare/
And yet another lie, NIC. repubs are giving Dems the choice of paying for obamacare or keeping the government running. It's the dem's choice.

Agravan
09-12-2013, 03:06 PM
Yes.
So the fines would just be "donations"?

nic34
09-12-2013, 03:08 PM
No one is coming to put you away. Do what you like with your healthcare....

Agravan
09-12-2013, 03:11 PM
No one is coming to put you away. Do what you like with your healthcare....
Can't you answer the question? Is voluntary a new synonym of mandate??

patrickt
09-12-2013, 04:04 PM
Hey, nic, is Obamacare voluntary?

In all fairness, Chris, it's as voluntary as the "voluntary" income tax.

ptif219
09-12-2013, 05:05 PM
Obviously, there is an attempt on the part of the Democrat congress who passed this law to suppress participation.


No it is a way to get all your information. It goes against your right to privacy.

ptif219
09-12-2013, 05:06 PM
There IS an attempt on the part of the repub congress to DEFUND Obamacare by shutting down the government...


Tea partiers rally against GOP’s ‘phony votes’ to defund Obamacare




http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/10/tea-partiers-rally-against-gops-phony-votes-to-defund-obamacare/


Don't worry Reid will not let that happen

Mainecoons
09-12-2013, 05:06 PM
No one is coming to put you away. Do what you like with your healthcare....

And if you don't pay your fines, genius?

ptif219
09-12-2013, 05:06 PM
Yes.


You need to read the OP link.

ptif219
09-12-2013, 05:08 PM
No one is coming to put you away. Do what you like with your healthcare....


That is a lie. This form you need to go to a doctor goes to 3 government departments including the IRS.

Read the link

fyrenza
09-12-2013, 05:57 PM
wEnder if Obama is "eligible?" ...

Mainecoons
09-12-2013, 06:17 PM
You need to read the OP link.

You want Nic to READ?

:rofl:

Professor Peabody
09-18-2013, 03:25 PM
No, the insurance companies want to know. Obamacare is not government healthcare.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2011/01/health_care_myths.html

They can buy insurance if they want to, but eVerify needs to be mandatory to get the Government subsidies.

lynn
09-18-2013, 05:26 PM
"Obamacare will not cover illegals" ..."You lie"
was right, then.

You are right but the state will just like they do now.

ptif219
09-18-2013, 05:44 PM
Obamacare also wants to know about your sex life


http://nypost.com/2013/09/15/obamacare-will-question-your-sex-life/


Are you sexually active? If so, with one partner, multiple partners or same-sex partners?” Be ready to answer those questions and more the next time you go to the doctor, whether it’s the dermatologist or the cardiologist and no matter if the questions are unrelated to why you’re seeking medical help. And you can thank the Obama health law.
“This is nasty business,” says New York cardiologist Dr. Adam Budzikowski. He called the sex questions “insensitive, stupid and very intrusive.” He couldn’t think of an occasion when a cardiologist would need such information — but he knows he’ll be pushed to ask for it.
The president’s “reforms” aim to turn doctors into government agents, pressuring them financially to ask questions they consider inappropriate and unnecessary, and to violate their Hippocratic Oath to keep patients’ records confidential.
Embarrassing though it may be, you confide things to a doctor you wouldn’t tell anyone else. But this is entirely different.
Doctors and hospitals who don’t comply with the federal government’s electronic-health-records requirements forgo incentive payments now; starting in 2015, they’ll face financial penalties from Medicare and Medicaid. The Department of Health and Human Services has already paid out over $12.7 billion for these incentives.
Dr. Richard Amerling, a nephrologist and associate professor at Albert Einstein Medical College, explains that your medical record should be “a story created by you and your doctor solely for your treatment and benefit.” But the new requirements are turning it “into an interrogation, and the data will not be confidential.”
Lack of confidentiality is what concerned the New York Civil Liberties Union in a 2012 report. Electronic medical records have enormous benefits, but with one click of a mouse, every piece of information in a patient’s record, including the social history, is transmitted, disclosing too much.

Ravi
09-18-2013, 06:43 PM
They can buy insurance if they want to, but eVerify needs to be mandatory to get the Government subsidies.

So you support a national id. Interesting. IMO, the GOVERNMENT should prove you aren't a citizen. Not the reverse.

Ravi
09-18-2013, 06:44 PM
Obamacare also wants to know about your sex life


http://nypost.com/2013/09/15/obamacare-will-question-your-sex-life/:rolleyes: They already ask those questions.

Mainecoons
09-18-2013, 06:52 PM
Who is they?

"They" have never asked me those questions.

Support your statement, please. He supported his.

ptif219
09-18-2013, 09:19 PM
:rolleyes: They already ask those questions.

Not where I live