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Cigar
09-13-2013, 07:32 AM
Ted Cruz: 'We Need 100 More Like Jesse Helms' In The SenateSen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said Wednesday that the country would be better off if the Senate was full of people like Jesse Helms, the late senator who was ardently opposed to all kinds of civil rights measures and even tried to block the Senate from approving a federal holiday in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr. During remarks at a Heritage Foundation event dubbed the "Jesse Helms Lecture Series," Cruz told a story of Helms receiving a $5,000 political donation from actor John Wayne, who apparently later told Helms he liked him because "you're that guy saying all those crazy things" and that there needed to be 100 more of him.


"It's every bit as true now as it was then," Cruz said. "We need 100 more like Jesse Helms in the U.S. Senate."


Helms, the conservative North Carolina Republican who served in the Senate for 30 years, was known for his efforts to stop progressive polices relating to gay rights, abortion and race. He voted against the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which he referred to as "the single most dangerous piece of legislation ever introduced in the Congress." When the Senate acted in 1983 to create a federal holiday honoring King, Helms staged a 16-day filibuster to try to block it. He ultimately caved in exchange for action on a tobacco bill.


In 1988, Helms opposed the Kennedy-Hatch AIDS bill, stating that there "is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy."


Helms passed away in 2008.


Cruz said the first political donation he ever made was to Helms -- $10 -- and praised the late senator for his outspokenness. If Helms were alive, Cruz said, he would be taking a more aggressive stance against "radical Islamist terrorism" than President Barack Obama has been taking.


"If Jesse Helms were still with us, he would not shy away from this fight," Cruz said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/11/ted-cruz-jesse-helms_n_3909610.html

Please Please ... 100 more like these two.

Libhater
09-13-2013, 08:08 AM
I agree with 'everything' the late great Jessie Helms stood for. May GOD rest his precious soul. Thank you Ted Cruz for the memories, and hope to see you as a future president of these United States.

Cigar
09-13-2013, 08:12 AM
I agree with 'everything' the late great Jessie Helms stood for. May GOD rest his precious soul. Thank you Ted Cruz for the memories, and hope to see you as a future president of these United States.

Jessie's having dinner now ... :laugh: can you please leave a message.

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/weird-things-body-maggots-431x300.jpg

Memories is all you racist will ever have from this day going forward ............

Change has Come to America ... Deal with it sport. :laugh:

midcan5
09-13-2013, 08:37 AM
Using the word 'united' in the same breath as Cruz and Helms takes the cake for hypocrisy in speech and thought.

"But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. True, you disagree among yourselves as to what that substitute shall be. You are divided on new propositions and plans, but you are unanimous in rejecting and denouncing the old policy of the fathers. Some of you are for reviving the foreign slave trade; some for a Congressional Slave-Code for the Territories; some for Congress forbidding the Territories to prohibit Slavery within their limits; some for maintaining Slavery in the Territories through the judiciary; some for the "gur-reat pur-rinciple" that "if one man would enslave another, no third man should object," fantastically called "Popular Sovereignty;" but never a man among you is in favor of federal prohibition of slavery in federal territories, according to the practice of "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live." Not one of all your various plans can show a precedent or an advocate in the century within which our Government originated. Consider, then, whether your claim of conservatism for yourselves, and your charge or destructiveness against us, are based on the most clear and stable foundations." Abraham Lincoln http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/cooper.htm

Common
09-13-2013, 09:10 AM
Ted has as much chance of being Potus as Jesse Helms did

Cigar
09-13-2013, 09:12 AM
Ted has as much chance of being Potus as Jesse Helms did

Jesse Helms at least had Senate Experience before he opened is Big Mouth. :laugh:

jillian
09-13-2013, 09:12 AM
I agree with 'everything' the late great Jessie Helms stood for. May GOD rest his precious soul. Thank you Ted Cruz for the memories, and hope to see you as a future president of these United States.

that's because you're a white supremacist creep.

Mainecoons
09-13-2013, 09:13 AM
Lord yes, we wouldn't want to elect someone who has noticed that Obama's big government has just accelerated the pace of the rich getting richer and suggest that maybe it is time to try something other than the usual progressive failure.

I mean, come on. We can't traumatize millions of liberals who are convinced that, if only, we make government bigger and more costly all those bad things that have happened since we started making government bigger and more costly will miraculously be cured.

Look up "magical thinking" common.

:grin:

Cigar
09-13-2013, 09:15 AM
Lord yes, we wouldn't want to elect someone who has noticed that Obama's big government has just accelerated the pace of the rich getting richer and suggest that maybe it is time to try something other than the usual progressive failure.

I mean, come on. We can't traumatize millions of liberals who are convinced that, if only, we make government bigger and more costly all those bad things that have happened since we started making government bigger and more costly will miraculously be cured.

Look up "magical thinking" common.

:grin:

Do you have a problem with tax-cuts for the Rich?

Mainecoons
09-13-2013, 09:17 AM
Look up "thinking" Cigar.

:rofl:

ptif219
09-13-2013, 09:31 AM
Using the word 'united' in the same breath as Cruz and Helms takes the cake for hypocrisy in speech and thought.

"But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. True, you disagree among yourselves as to what that substitute shall be. You are divided on new propositions and plans, but you are unanimous in rejecting and denouncing the old policy of the fathers. Some of you are for reviving the foreign slave trade; some for a Congressional Slave-Code for the Territories; some for Congress forbidding the Territories to prohibit Slavery within their limits; some for maintaining Slavery in the Territories through the judiciary; some for the "gur-reat pur-rinciple" that "if one man would enslave another, no third man should object," fantastically called "Popular Sovereignty;" but never a man among you is in favor of federal prohibition of slavery in federal territories, according to the practice of "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live." Not one of all your various plans can show a precedent or an advocate in the century within which our Government originated. Consider, then, whether your claim of conservatism for yourselves, and your charge or destructiveness against us, are based on the most clear and stable foundations." Abraham Lincoln http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/cooper.htm

You mean like Obama who said he would be uniter and has created the biggest divide this country has ever seen

ptif219
09-13-2013, 09:32 AM
Ted has as much chance of being Potus as Jesse Helms did

Be careful you may find that the country turns back to conservatism

ptif219
09-13-2013, 09:33 AM
that's because you're a white supremacist creep.

No that would be democrats like Byrd was

ptif219
09-13-2013, 09:34 AM
Do you have a problem with tax-cuts for the Rich?

How is it Obama complained about them yet continued them

nic34
09-13-2013, 09:36 AM
How is it Obama complained about them yet continued them

Because the republicans would not play nice with the other boys and girls.

jillian
09-13-2013, 09:39 AM
How is it Obama complained about them yet continued them

because when the righties wouldn't lift the debt ceiling and got our credit rating lowered, he tried to avoid them doing further damage to our economy.

i think he was wrong for trying to work with people who put party before country.

ptif219
09-13-2013, 09:47 AM
Because the republicans would not play nice with the other boys and girls.

You mean Obama will not play. Just shows Obama can not be trusted for what he says.

Cigar
09-13-2013, 09:49 AM
You mean Obama will not play. Just shows Obama can not be trusted for what he says.

If I were you ... I would not Vote for him in the next Election. :wink:

ptif219
09-13-2013, 09:49 AM
because when the righties wouldn't lift the debt ceiling and got our credit rating lowered, he tried to avoid them doing further damage to our economy.

i think he was wrong for trying to work with people who put party before country.

More lies. The credit rating is all on Obama policies. Obama has not tried to work with GOP. Obama's idea of working with GOP is the GOP giving Obama what he wants

ptif219
09-13-2013, 09:50 AM
If I were you ... I would not Vote for him in the next Election. :wink:

You should vote for him again the next election

Cigar
09-13-2013, 09:57 AM
You should vote for him again the next election

What ... Party Ticket, sure. :laugh:

ptif219
09-13-2013, 10:23 AM
What ... Party Ticket, sure. :laugh:

For Obama

Cigar
09-13-2013, 10:30 AM
For Obama

It would be too embarrassing for Republicans.

Let's see how you do against Hilliary.

ptif219
09-13-2013, 10:59 AM
It would be too embarrassing for Republicans.

Let's see how you do against Hilliary.

Lets see if she can get by the failures in Bengahzi

BB-35
09-13-2013, 11:44 AM
Could it be that Cruz was speaking of Helms' devotion to the job and standing up for what he believed?


Nahhhhhhhhhhh,couldn't be that.

Cigar
09-13-2013, 12:33 PM
Lets see if she can get by the failures in Bengahzi

She did last year ... where were you?

Cigar
09-13-2013, 12:33 PM
Could it be that Cruz was speaking of Helms' devotion to the job and standing up for what he believed?


Nahhhhhhhhhhh,couldn't be that.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130913-meet-the-new-republican-party-same-as-the-old-republican-party.jpg

Libhater
09-13-2013, 12:44 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130913-meet-the-new-republican-party-same-as-the-old-republican-party.jpg

Like I said before, I agree with all of those issues that Jessie Helms and Cruz stood and stand for. What exactly would you disagree with from that list of quotes and why?

Cigar
09-13-2013, 12:46 PM
Like I said before, I agree with all of those issues that Jessie Helms and Cruz stood and stand for. What exactly would you disagree with from that list of quotes and why?

... and Agree that all Conservative Republicans should Agree with Ted Cruz ... Please ... don't change a single thing. :f_applause:

Libhater
09-13-2013, 12:49 PM
... and Agree that all Conservative Republicans should Agree with Ted Cruz ... Please ... don't change a single thing. :f_applause:

No problem there; to get all Republicans to formulate policy that would destroy all of those American wrecking issues of the left would be a great boon to our nation.

Cigar
09-13-2013, 12:51 PM
No problem there; to get all Republicans to formulate policy that would destroy all of those American wrecking issues of the left would be a great boon to our nation.

Sounds like an excellent plan ... go with it. :grin:

Libhater
09-13-2013, 02:27 PM
Sounds like an excellent plan ... go with it. :grin:

Perhaps you're beginning to see the light here, eh?

ptif219
09-13-2013, 05:41 PM
She did last year ... where were you?


She has seen nothing yet. It is still under investigation. Her blaming a video will not fly

BB-35
09-13-2013, 05:43 PM
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130913-meet-the-new-republican-party-same-as-the-old-republican-party.jpg

Context,bilbo.......always look for context

Boris The Animal
09-13-2013, 08:27 PM
Be careful you may find that the country turns back to conservatismLord let's hope so, for the country's future.