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Chloe
09-25-2013, 12:49 PM
Collaborative e-democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_e-democracy)

I normally don't like using wikipedia but a little while ago I was researching something and click after click eventually brought me to this page. It talks about collaborative e-democracy and I thought it sounded kind of cool actually.

Here is a brief description but obviously it goes into more detail in the link:

Collaborative e-democracy or Super-democracy is a democratic conception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conception_(idea)) which combines key features of direct democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy), representative democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy), and e-democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-democracy) (i.e. the use of ICT's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_and_communication_technologies) for democratic processes). The concept was first published at two international academic conferences (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_conferences) in 2009 (see below).
Collaborative e-democracy refers to a political system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_system) in which governmental stakeholders (politicians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicians)/parties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party), ministers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_(government)), parliamentarians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_of_Parliament) etc.) and non-governmental stakeholders (NGO’s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGO), political lobbies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying), local communities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communities), individual citizens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens), etc.) collaborate on the development of public laws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law) and policies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy). This collaborative policymaking process is conducted on a governmental social networking site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_networking_site) in which all citizens are members (collaborative e-policy-making).
While directly elected government officials (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_officials) (i.e. ‘proxy representatives’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_democracy#Delegated_voting)) would conduct the vast majority of law and policy-making processes (representative democracy), the citizens would retain their final voting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting) power on each issue (direct democracy). Additionally each citizen would be empowered to propose their own policies to the electorate and thus initiate new policy processes where applicable (initiative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiative)). Collaboratively generated policies would consider the opinion of a larger proportion of the citizenry; therefore they may be more just, more sustainable, and thus easier to implement..

Anyway it just seemed interesting so I thought i'd share.

Paperback Writer
09-25-2013, 01:01 PM
Thank you, it's lovely. You're a Green, yeh?

Chris
09-25-2013, 01:24 PM
I think the Swiss have final say in the legislative process. I would be concerned about republican democracy turning into majoritarian democracy, something to avoid.

There is a thing called wisdom of the crowds, James Surowiecki is a good source. It deals with how a crowd can be used to make predictions provided. One of the important aspects of getting it to work is people have to invest something, take risk. This would avoid people voting themselves largess from the public coffers. --Not sure this exactly relates to what you're pursuing.

Chloe
09-25-2013, 01:36 PM
Thank you, it's lovely. You're a Green, yeh?

yes i'm registered as a green

Paperback Writer
09-25-2013, 01:39 PM
yes i'm registered as a green

I support the Greens, as well.

Chloe
09-25-2013, 01:48 PM
I support the Greens, as well.

Good deal. It's the only party that really made me feel comfortable wanting to be associated with. When I was in high school they had a presentation with visitors and others talking about politics and the upcoming elections and basically let us explore the different party platforms, the pro and cons, and all of that and I just really took to their platform. It kind of reinforced some of the things that I already was thinking and believed but didn't know exactly where I fell in politics. I know that you do not have to be registered with any particular party but the green party here in my opinion best summed up my beliefs and thoughts. Granted I will ultimately vote for who I want and what I want but I think the green party best suits me at this point in time, so i'm happy with it.

Germanicus
09-25-2013, 01:51 PM
I have been thinking about democracy for the last few years.. I am not a fan.

But since the resent Australian elections I have decided that the only way elections can work in the west is for people to be public with their vote.

Why should it be a secret who you vote for? What are we baby boomers?

Every vote should be recorded and available for the public to see. This is the only way I would have any confidence in western elections.

I like the idea of 'collaborative democracy'. Governments are terrified of the plebicite and we are only ever offered a plebisite on distraction and wedge type issues.

I am all for a dictator but collaborative democracy would be better than the pirate style democracy we have now.

Paperback Writer
09-25-2013, 02:00 PM
I suppose I support the Greens because they are the only ones not affiliated with the Banksters. Yet. I'm sure if they become large someone will try to co-opt them. :(

Chloe
10-03-2013, 11:58 AM
I suppose I support the Greens because they are the only ones not affiliated with the Banksters. Yet. I'm sure if they become large someone will try to co-opt them. :(

I do worry about that too. One day if the party gets big and gains more power will it ultimately corrupt it and turn it into some generic form of what it once was type thing. But you know if that happens then it's either go out on your own or you seek out a new party or organization that shares your views and wants to try to make some good changes as well. I guess we will see.