Republicans in a Nutshell or just Nuts in a Nutshell

[Cigar]

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130930-in-a-nutshell.jpg

... says it all. :rollseyes: Flag Waving Patriots

[AmazonTania]

As I have already explained nothing substantial will happen to the economy. Worse case scenario is that GDP will drop 1.5% annualised.

This is similar to the sequester and how $80 Billion dollars was supposed to destroy a $15 Trillion dollar economy. It doesn't make any coherent sense...

Me thinks thou doth protest too much...

[Cigar]

As I have already explained nothing substantial will happen to the economy. Worse case scenario is that GDP will drop 1.5% annualised.

This is similar to the sequester and how $80 Billion dollars was supposed to destroy a $15 Trillion dollar economy. People protest to much...

Yea .... because well ... you're an authority and why should we question authority on an Internet Forum.

BTW .. AZ ... have you personally spoken to those who were furloughed from the sequester or do they count in your world? :rollseyes:

[AmazonTania]

Yea .... because well ... you're an authority and why should we question authority on an Internet Forum.

You don't have to take my word for it. I'm just explaining how this works. The Government Shutdown seems imminent from what the market can tell. If the market was actually concerned that a government shutdown would effect them, internet rates would increase, thus making bond yields skyrocket. Investors would be fleeing the dollar. None of this is happening.

Also a Government shutdown makes it harder for the Government to pay maturing treasuries, which would collapse the bond market and send Treasuries in a free fall. Also, none of which is actually happening. Today the Treasury sold 33 Billion dollars worth of 2 year notes. The Bid to Cover ratio was 3, which signifies an exceptionally strong demand for Treasury Notes.

Nothing significant is going to happen. Just a few thousand government employees will take an extended vacation.


BTW .. AZ ... have you personally spoken to those who were furloughed from the sequester or do they count in your world? :rollseyes:

17,000 jobs in the Government were created last month alone. Whatever apocalyptic scenario which was supposed to happen with the sequester apparently wore off.

[Ethereal]

BTW .. AZ ... have you personally spoken to those who were furloughed from the sequester or do they count in your world? :rollseyes:

Have you personally spoken to small business owners who have been bearing the burden of onerous regulation, taxes, litigation, and inflation for decades or do they not count in your world?

[Ethereal]

17,000 jobs in the Government were created last month alone. Whatever apocalyptic scenario which was supposed to happen with the sequester apparently wore off.

Millions of workers in the private sector have been losing jobs but we're supposed to feel sorry for a few furloughed government workers. That's the mindset of people who live inside the marxist bubble.

[AmazonTania]

The worse thing that could possibly happen to me is that I won't be able to look up data from the Commerce Department.

Oh, the horror...

[Ravi]

The worse thing that could possibly happen to me is that I won't be able to look up data from the Commerce Department.

Oh, the horror...
If you aren't an American you should be paying for the privilege....

[Ethereal]

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130930-in-a-nutshell.jpg

This is some of the saddest, most idiotic political rhetoric I've ever heard. As if our "economy" was nothing more than some fragile organism living in the womb of Washington DC. Our "economy" is just the sum total of our production and our resources. Washington DC could disappear overnight and we'd still have ALL our productive capacity and our natural resources. Every human laborer would still exist, every body of fresh water, ever acre of arable land, every cow, every vehicle, every gallon of gas, all of it would still exist in the total absence of the central state. This inane rhetoric speaks to a religious or magical sort of belief in the power of the state, as if all wealth and prosperity originated from it. It's just so much recycled marxist pablum.

[Ethereal]

If you aren't an American you should be paying for the privilege....

And if you live in my neighborhood, you ought to pay for the privilege of my "protection", or else... :rollseyes:

[AmazonTania]

If you aren't an American you should be paying for the privilege....

Why? Do you honestly really believe retail spending in America effects no one else but Americans?

[Alyosha]

If you aren't an American you should be paying for the privilege....

I paid close to 46% of my earnings out to taxes last year. I'm letting her use my share of the public goods since I won't use it.


@AmazonTania (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=852)

you can also have my share of the wiretapping. I'll just opt out of that program if it's alright with everyone. Thanks!

[Venus]

lol

wrong thread

[Ethereal]

I paid close to 46% of my earnings out to taxes last year. I'm letting her use my share of the public goods since I won't use it.


@AmazonTania (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=852)

you can also have my share of the wiretapping. I'll just opt out of that program if it's alright with everyone. Thanks!

I'll take the wiretapping!

:D

[Ravi]

Why? Do you honestly really believe retail spending in America effects no one else but Americans?
Why? Do you honestly believe ungrateful whining Brits deserve to benefit off the American taxpayer? I don't. We threw off your epic fail eons ago.

[AmazonTania]

I paid close to 46% of my earnings out to taxes last year. I'm letting her use my share of the public goods since I won't use it.


@AmazonTania (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=852)

you can also have my share of the wiretapping. I'll just opt out of that program if it's alright with everyone. Thanks!

Don't ever become a client of mine. I've practically been deputised by the Federal Government.

[AmazonTania]

Why? Do you honestly believe ungrateful whining Brits deserve to benefit off the American taxpayer? I don't. We threw off your epic fail eons ago.

I don't want any benefits of becoming a US citizen. And neither does your own citizenry by the amount of citizens renouncing their citizenship every month.

The benefits of being a US Citizen: You have to pay taxes on anything you earn, no matter where you are in the world.

No thanks...

[Alyosha]

Why? Do you honestly believe ungrateful whining Brits deserve to benefit off the American taxpayer? I don't. We threw off your epic fail eons ago.

Yes. I do. I pay more taxes than most of the people on this board. That should give me a lot of say right? If payment of taxes is what allows you to speak?

By that same standard, do you intend to remove the right to vote from welfare recipients who pay no income tax?

[AmazonTania]

I pay state income taxes, as well as Federal capital gain taxes.

Apparently I have no say over citizens who pay zero taxes. Only in America.

[Ravi]

I don't want any benefits of becoming a US citizen. And neither does your own citizenry by the amount of citizens renouncing their citizenship every month.

The benefits of being a US Citizen: You have to pay taxes on anything you earn, no matter where you are in the world.

No thanks...
Of course you don't. You simply want to suck off Americans as your post shows. You've proven yourself to be a fraud, coming here to bitch about the American government while using American government programs to benefit your bottom line.

Too funny.

[Alyosha]

Europeans are loved and their opinions mean something unless they aren't socialists, then it's GTFO.

[Cigar]

I pay state income taxes, as well as Federal capital gain taxes.

Apparently I have no say over citizens who pay zero taxes. Only in America.

Actually you do ... what would you like to say the Elderly, Children and Veterans ... those who makeup the bulk?

[Alyosha]

AmazonTania

here's what you do if you want to use our benefits, not pay taxes, and have people like Ravi still support you...come in through Mexico illegally.

[Cigar]

@AmazonTania (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=852)

here's what you do if you want to use our benefits, not pay taxes, and have people like Ravi still support you...come in through Mexico illegally.



Sure ... I say go right ahead and try ... then get back to us when you're eating Stakes, driving Cadillac and living high on the hog.

Don't forget us now .. yall hear?

[AmazonTania]

Of course you don't. You simply want to suck off Americans as your post shows.

Yep. To be fair I'm not sucking off Americans, but the Federal Reserve banking system, but sure, I've benefited from a subsidy or two.


You've proven yourself to be a fraud, coming here to bitch about the American government while using American government programs to benefit your bottom line.

Too funny.

The country is stupid enough to provide these funds to me. I'm against all of these programs on principle, but I'm not going to question why the Government decides to throw money in my lap. I don't blame anyone for taking advantage of any Government program, regardless of what it is.

Doesn't change the fact that it's a moral hazard which has dangerous effects to the economy.

[Ethereal]

Why? Do you honestly believe ungrateful whining Brits deserve to benefit off the American taxpayer? I don't. We threw off your epic fail eons ago.

They deserve to benefit off of the American taxpayer just as much as Obama voters.

[AmazonTania]

Actually you do ... what would you like to say the Elderly, Children and Veterans ... those who makeup the bulk?

Time to start pitching in.

[Ethereal]

You simply want to suck off Americans as your post shows.

Are you sure you're not describing the Democratic party?

[Ethereal]

Actually you do ... what would you like to say the Elderly, Children and Veterans ... those who makeup the bulk?

I would say to them that politicians are lying to them, and that their welfare is actually a form of dependency that harms economic growth and prosperity, which contributes to a cycle of helplessness and poverty. If they wanted specific examples of this, I would point them towards the poor communities in cities like Washington DC, NYC, Chicago, and Detroit as evidence for what happens to people that become dependent upon political patronage systems. I would also say to them that there are private charities that do great work for people in need, and that the more money and effort we can put into private charity and communal association, the stronger and more prosperous we would be as a nation. I would also tell the veterans that they were duped into serving corporate criminals and that a standing army is unconstitutional.

[Ravi]

@AmazonTania (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=852)

here's what you do if you want to use our benefits, not pay taxes, and have people like Ravi still support you...come in through Mexico illegally.
Most of those would prefer to pay taxes and in reality many of them do.

I'm really laughing over this, here you are supporting someone sucking off the American teat without contributing.

[Cigar]

I would say to them that politicians are lying to them, and that their welfare is actually a form of dependency that harms economic growth and prosperity, which contributes to a cycle of helplessness and poverty. If they wanted specific examples of this, I would point them towards the poor communities in cities like Washington DC, NYC, Chicago, and Detroit as evidence for what happens to people that become dependent upon political patronage systems. I would also say to them that there are private charities that do great work for people in need, and that the more money and effort we can put into private charity and communal association, the stronger and more prosperous we would be as a nation. I would also tell the veterans that they were duped into serving corporate criminals and that a standing army is unconstitutional.

Sure ... that'll help

http://s1.hubimg.com/u/952716_f520.jpg

[Alyosha]

I would say to them that politicians are lying to them, and that their welfare is actually a form of dependency that harms economic growth and prosperity, which contributes to a cycle of helplessness and poverty. If they wanted specific examples of this, I would point them towards the poor communities in cities like Washington DC, NYC, Chicago, and Detroit as evidence for what happens to people that become dependent upon political patronage systems. I would also say to them that there are private charities that do great work for people in need, and that the more money and effort we can put into private charity and communal association, the stronger and more prosperous we would be as a nation. I would also tell the veterans that they were duped into serving corporate criminals and that a standing army is unconstitutional.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120812074352/deadliestfiction/images/9/9d/Applause.gif

[Alyosha]

Most of those would prefer to pay taxes and in reality many of them do.

I'm really laughing over this, here you are supporting someone sucking off the American teat without contributing.


Sure. You know most of the 20 ro 40 million of them.

[AmazonTania]

Most of those would prefer to pay taxes and in reality many of them do.

I'm really laughing over this, here you are supporting someone sucking off the American teat without contributing.

As a visitor, the only thing I am exempt from is Federal Income Taxes (wages and salaries) and FICA as I have that in my own country.

In what ways am I not contributing?

[Ravi]

Sure. You know most of the 20 ro 40 million of them.
I'll not forget your defense of leeches.

[Mister D]

Europeans are loved and their opinions mean something unless they aren't socialists, then it's GTFO.

You noticed that too? :smiley:

[bladimz]

I would say to them that politicians are lying to them...The fact is that our politicians and our government is lying to all of us. Every one of us. Constantly and extensively. The bigger and stronger the country, the more powerful and successful their propaganda.

[Cigar]

The fact is that our politicians and our government is lying to all of us. Every one of us. Constantly and extensively. The bigger and stronger the country, the more powerful and successful their propaganda.

So in reality ... 30 Million People are not without Health Care.

Wow ... what a relief.

[Alyosha]

I'll not forget your defense of leeches.

Are you calling 20-40 million undocumented "Americans" leeches? I'm not.


Libertarians are anti-border.

[AmazonTania]

Again, I fail to see how am 'leeching' off the country, much less the economy.

On a per capita basis, I have contributed $635,000 dollars to the economy. Contrast to the McDonalds and Burger King employees receiving some type of Government assistance, they've contributed 0.67 cents to the economy per capita.

$635,000 vs. $0.67 cents.

[Mister D]

It amazes how some progressives never bother to reconcile their support of a welfare state with their support for the importation of millions of poor, uneducated, and unskilled migrants.

[Ravi]

Are you calling 20-40 million undocumented "Americans" leeches? I'm not.


Libertarians are anti-border.No, I'm not calling them leeches. Did you not see my post proclaiming that most of them would prefer to pay taxes?

And most self-proclaimed libertarians I've seen on messageboards are anything but anti-border.

[bladimz]

So in reality ... 30 Million People are not without Health Care.

Wow ... what a relief.I didn't say about everything; those numbers and their lack of health care are pretty hard to classify as a government lie.

I guess i should have been more specific: i don't trust the government to share the truth involving foreign policies, our "national interests" and especially, who is truly in control of our government and manipulating it to that entity's benefit. For instance, i believe that the ACA will be a huge victory for the Pharma industry, at the very least. That's why it's in place.

[AmazonTania]

So in reality ... 30 Million People are not without Health Care.

Wow ... what a relief.

There are 90 Million people without jobs. Are there 90 Million unemployed Americans in this country?

That's pretty much the same thing as the 30 Million uninsured figure. There are those who don't have it, and cannot actually afford it. And there are those who don't have it, and don't want it.

As every other statistic government officials like to peddle around. It has some light of truth in the myth, but overall it's a misleading statistic. When you get to the nitty gritty of the statistics, there are about 7 million people who do not have insurance and cannot actually afford it.

[Alyosha]

No, I'm not calling them leeches. Did you not see my post proclaiming that most of them would prefer to pay taxes?

Bullshit on the "most of them prefer to pay taxes", a) you don't know most of them and are assuming, and b) nothing's stopping them from paying taxes. They can always do the numbers and send in a check to the IRS.

But seriously, what makes someone a leech? Do you only have to feign desire to pay taxes and use public services to no longer be considered a leech?

I know many that don't from my line of work defending them and I always say, "More power to you".

Fuck taxes. Live it up, baby. Go black market economy!

That's freedom and they are living it. Twenty-forty million people already exist outside of government, engaging in commerce and they are doing just fine. I LOVE IT.

Our undocumented residents prove that you cannot stop commerce, and you cannot regulate desires.




And most self-proclaimed libertarians I've seen on messageboards are anything but anti-border.

You don't know any libertarians then. You know Tea Party libertarian leaning types.

[Cigar]

There are 90 Million people without jobs. Are there 90 Million unemployed Americans in this country?

That's pretty much the same thing as the 30 Million uninsured figure. There are those who don't have it, and cannot actually afford it. And there are those who don't have it, and don't want it.

As every other statistic government officials like to peddle around. It has some light of truth in the myth, but overall it's a misleading statistic. When you get to the nitty gritty of the statistics, there are about 7 million people who do not have insurance and cannot actually afford it.

You're going to cry tomorrow are you?

Because tomorrow is coming.

[Alyosha]

You're going to cry tomorrow are you?

Because tomorrow is coming.


Why would she cry? She's not the blue collar family who will have to pay an extra $500 a month they don't have. She's got money.

[AmazonTania]

You're going to cry tomorrow are you?

Because tomorrow is coming.


No, as I've already said, I'm buying 10,000 shares of Wellpoint. I'm going to be a very rich woman.

[bladimz]

Why would she cry? She's not the blue collar family who will have to pay an extra $500 a month they don't have. She's got money.$500 more a month? I guess we'll just have to wait and see about that, right?

[Mainecoons]

They'll be lucky if it is that cheap.

[Alyosha]

$500 more a month? I guess we'll just have to wait and see about that, right?

Didn't you read the bill and what you're required to have in insurance or else pay a "fine"/"tax"?

[Cigar]

Didn't you read the bill and what you're required to have in insurance or else pay a "fine"/"tax"?


Sound good to me, why would you like to pickup the entire tab for employers who don't what to pay anything for their employees' insurance?

[AmazonTania]

Didn't you read the bill and what you're required to have in insurance or else pay a "fine"/"tax"?

For me, paying the fine would be very costly.

For lower income individuals, paying the fine is better than signing up for health insurance.

[Ravi]

For me, paying the fine would be very costly.

For lower income individuals, paying the fine is better than signing up for health insurance.
I doubt you would even be affected since you aren't a permanent resident.

[AmazonTania]

I doubt you would even be affected since you aren't a permanent resident.

I would if my employer drops my insurance. Then I have to purchase insurance regardless...

[bladimz]

Didn't you read the bill and what you're required to have in insurance or else pay a "fine"/"tax"?Gosh. I guess i must have missed that one.

http://goo.gl/ciK0o4


Questions and Answers on the Individual Shared Responsibility Provision

7. What do I need to do if I want to be sure I have minimum essential coverage or an exemption for 2014?

Most individuals in the United States have health coverage today that will count as minimum essential coverage and will not need to do anything more than continue the coverage that they have. For those who do not have coverage, who anticipate discontinuing the coverage they have currently, or who want to explore whether more affordable options are available, the Health Insurance Marketplace will open for every state and the District of Columbia in October of 2013. The Health Insurance Marketplace will help qualified individuals find minimum essential coverage that fits their budget and potentially financial assistance to help with the costs of coverage beginning in 2014. The Health Insurance Marketplace will also be able to assess whether applicants are eligible for Medicaid or the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP). For those who will become eligible for Medicare during 2013, enrolling for Medicare will also ensure that you have minimum essential coverage for 2014.
If that blue collar family currently has health insurance, they can keep it. If they don't have it, there are premium tax credits to help them with the costs. Did you forget about the premium tax credits, maybe?

[GrassrootsConservative]

Gosh. I guess i must have missed that one.

http://goo.gl/ciK0o4

If that blue collar family currently has health insurance, they can keep it. If they don't have it, there are premium tax credits to help them with the costs. Did you forget about the premium tax credits, maybe?
bladimz

You did miss it. Yes if I don't buy Obama's healthcare I will need to pay a penalty. And I don't know how you could have missed it:

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-individual-mandate.php


The individual mandate is officially part of the shared responsibly provision and is called a individual shared responsibility fee. The fee works like this: if you don't have insurance by January 31st, 2014 or obtain an exemption you get charged a fee for every month you don't have insurance on your year-end taxable income.
What You Need to Know About the Individual Mandate

There are a few things that every American should know about ObamaCare (http://vertlinks.com/a/enroll-b?results=health&rf=ocf/?src=vl-medicare)'s individual mandate:
• Insurance must be obtained by January 2014 to avoid the fee.


It's all I've been talking about.

[Mainecoons]

What I want to know is, with no income verification, just how are these government geniuses going to prevent massive fraud?

What is to keep anyone from coming in and getting a subsidy by just lying about their income?

The more I see of this disaster in the making the more I wish I could choke Bonehead and tell him to get the F out of the way and let it happen.

A lot of people in America need a hard lesson about liberalism, and boy this one would be a doozy.

[Ravi]

I would if my employer drops my insurance. Then I have to purchase insurance regardless...

I don't think so Lucy.

[Ravi]

I would if my employer drops my insurance. Then I have to purchase insurance regardless...

As a matter of fact, correct me if I'm wrong. You claim not to pay US income tax which is quite a feat because if you live and work in the US you must pay US income tax. You would not have to pay British income tax. So you must be working here illegally.

But if it is true that you do not pay US but British income tax they you are covered by Britain's health care system. So the ACA doesn't affect your life in any way whatsoever.

[Agravan]

Gosh. I guess i must have missed that one.

http://goo.gl/ciK0o4

If that blue collar family currently has health insurance, they can keep it. If they don't have it, there are premium tax credits to help them with the costs. Did you forget about the premium tax credits, maybe?
Do those "tax credits" help them when they need to cough up the monthly premiums, Blad? Can they write a check to the insurance company for only the amount, minus tax credit, that they should receive? Or do they pay the entire premium, and maybe get a refund at tax time? In the meantime they are out that money that could have been used for gas money, food, utilities or whatever they need during the year. But that's okay with you because they get "tax credit" at the end of the year. I'm sure their kids can wait until then for breakfast, lunch, dinner, new shoes, maybe a birthday present, etc...

[AmazonTania]

As a matter of fact, correct me if I'm wrong. You claim not to pay US income tax which is quite a feat because if you live and work in the US you must pay US income tax. You would not have to pay British income tax. So you must be working here illegally.

That depends on whether I'm a residential alien, or whether I'm in between cities as My location suggests. As I have already said before, I'm a visitor.


But if it is true that you do not pay US but British income tax they you are covered by Britain's health care system. So the ACA doesn't affect your life in any way whatsoever.

Non US Citizens are not subject to the individual mandate. Being that my employer is an American firm, I am not covered under the Department of Health in America, and I am unable to enroll in Medicaid, if my employer drops my insurance, I will have to pay for my own health insurance.

I don't see how this doesn't affect my life in any way whatsoever.

[Ravi]

That depends on whether I'm a residential alien, or whether I'm in between cities as My location suggests. As I have already said before, I'm a visitor.



Non US Citizens are not subject to the individual mandate. Being that my employer is an American firm, I am not covered under the Department of Health in America, and I am unable to enroll in Medicaid, if my employer drops my insurance, I will have to pay for my own health insurance.

I don't see how this doesn't affect my life in any way whatsoever.
You're talking in circles. If you pay British income tax you are covered by the British health care system.

[AmazonTania]

You're talking in circles. If you pay British income tax you are covered by the British health care system.

You're making assumptions, and failing miserably. And no, if you live abroad for more than three months, you are not covered under UK NHS.

[Peter1469]

You're talking in circles. If you pay British income tax you are covered by the British health care system.


What good does that do Amazon when she is in NYC?

[Ravi]

You're making assumptions, and failing miserably. And no, if you live abroad for more than three months, you are not covered under UK NHS.

Right, then you become a resident alien of the US an pay US income tax. But you claim you don't pay US income tax but pay British income tax.

Unless you want to detail your "special status" your story doesn't add up.

[Codename Section]

Right, then you become a resident alien of the US an pay US income tax. But you claim you don't pay US income tax but pay British income tax.

Unless you want to detail your "special status" your story doesn't add up.

She pays taxes on her US income, and pays the British income tax. It's just wording. She's a British citizen, not an American one.

[Ethereal]

I'll not forget your defense of leeches.

Again, this sounds like you're talking about the Democrats.

[AmazonTania]

Right, then you become a resident alien of the US an pay US income tax. But you claim you don't pay US income tax but pay British income tax.

Unless you want to detail your "special status" your story doesn't add up.

There is nothing 'special' about my status. As a non-resident, my taxes are determined based on whether or not my income is directly connected to US Trade. As a British citizen, the IRS has no authority to tax me on my worldwide income, and I've already explained that I pay federal capital gains taxes which are not exempt from any UK-US tax treaty. Whether or not I am subject to US Federal Income Taxes depends on my work.

If you must know I offer American and International clients to gain exposure in the global economy, which involve mutual funds in China, Asian Small Companies, Latin America, Europe. I also offer access to Foreign Equities, Market Linked CDs in Foreign Denominated Currencies, and FOREX Trading.

Any other information you're interested?

[Ravi]

There is nothing 'special' about my status. As a non-resident, my taxes are determined based on whether or not my income is directly connected to US Trade. As a British citizen, the IRS has no authority to tax me on my worldwide income, and I've already explained that I pay federal capital gains taxes which are not exempt from any UK-US tax treaty. Whether or not I am subject to US Federal Income Taxes depends on my work.

If you must know I offer American and International clients to gain exposure in the global economy, which involve mutual funds in China, Asian Small Companies, Latin America, Europe. I also offer access to Foreign Equities, Market Linked CDs in Foreign Denominated Currencies, and FOREX Trading.

Any other information you're interested?
On the contrary:

The distinction between resident aliens and nonresident aliens is crucial because resident aliens, like U.S. citizens, are taxed on worldwide income, whereas nonresident aliens are taxed only on U.S. source income. Your status as a nonresident alien individual affords you many opportunities to take advantage of the U.S. tax laws.
http://www.medowscpa.com/Services/Non-Resident-Alien-Tax-Returns.aspx

And:


The income of foreign persons subject to U.S. income tax is divided into two categories: certain income that is effectively connected with a U.S. trade or business; and certain U.S. source income that is not effectively connected with a U.S. trade or business. Effectively connected income is taxed at graduated rates. Income not effectively connected with a U.S. trade or business is taxed at a flat 30 percent rate, subject to withholding.


Also, the three month coverage by NHS applies to ex-pats and retirees that are not paying into the British tax system, which you claim you are.

You might want to consult an immigration lawyer.

[AmazonTania]

On the contrary:

http://www.medowscpa.com/Services/Non-Resident-Alien-Tax-Returns.aspx

And:



I think there is a problem with your readings comprehension. All you've done was source whatever I have previously said.



Also, the three month coverage by NHS applies to ex-pats and retirees that are not paying into the British tax system, which you claim you are.

You might want to consult an immigration lawyer.

It applies to everyone whether they're paying or not. The three months threshold is only for those staying abroad for more than three months.

Try again.

[bladimz]

What I want to know is, with no income verification, just how are these government geniuses going to prevent massive fraud?

What is to keep anyone from coming in and getting a subsidy by just lying about their income?

The more I see of this disaster in the making the more I wish I could choke Bonehead and tell him to get the F out of the way and let it happen.

A lot of people in America need a hard lesson about liberalism, and boy this one would be a doozy.tax returns=income verification.

[Agravan]

tax returns=income verification.
And if you don't file returns, like many low income folks??

[bladimz]

And if you don't file returns, like many low income folks??Um, if you're in the "low income" group, you most likely qualify for those subsidies. That's just a logical guess on my part. I could be wrong, but probably not.

[Agravan]

Um, if you're in the "low income" group, you most likely qualify for those subsidies. That's just a logical guess on my part. I could be wrong, but probably not.
Not according to the subsidy calculator.

[Ravi]

There is something screwy with that calculator. A single household making $14,000 per year would pay $280 in insurance premiums for a year. It makes no sense that a combined income of $14K for two adults would push the premium up that high.

[bladimz]

Well, according to the Berkeley Labor Center calulator (http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/healthpolicy/calculator/), a family of 3 with a combined income of $30K with tax credits would pay $104/month. So how does a household with a total income of $14K pay $280? That's just BS.

[Peter1469]

I still can't log onto the official website to find out how free my insurance could be..... At least I was able to set up an account for the site.

[Ravi]

I still can't log onto the official website to find out how free my insurance could be..... At least I was able to set up an account for the site.
Do you need it? If not, why don't you wait until the people that do finish figuring out what it is available to them?

[Peter1469]

Do you need it? If not, why don't you wait until the people that do finish figuring out what it is available to them?

No I don't need it. I have insurance and should have access to VA healthcare if they got their act together. I only want to see how much my free health care would cost in comparison to what I am currently paying. If the ACA kills my current insurance, I will just rely on the VA, which would be free for me- just a pain in the butt to get service.

But I guess I am part of the problem- clogging up their servers. You would think the government would have planned for the amount of traffic....

[Ravi]

No I don't need it. I have insurance and should have access to VA healthcare if they got their act together. I only want to see how much my free health care would cost in comparison to what I am currently paying. If the ACA kills my current insurance, I will just rely on the VA, which would be free for me- just a pain in the butt to get service.

But I guess I am part of the problem- clogging up their servers. You would think the government would have planned for the amount of traffic....

It is hard to account for all the needy people. And good you have the VA to fall back on. Most people don't.

[Peter1469]

It is hard to account for all the needy people. And good you have the VA to fall back on. Most people don't.

Well I have been waiting since 2008 to get my VA ID card. I re-applied last fall. Still waiting. Admittedly I am not pushing the issue, because I have private insurance. But if that becomes unaffordable, I will have to put a boot up VA's backside.

[Ravi]

Well I have been waiting since 2008 to get my VA ID card. I re-applied last fall. Still waiting. Admittedly I am not pushing the issue, because I have private insurance. But if that becomes unaffordable, I will have to put a boot up VA's backside.
Took my father 30 years because for the longest time they pretended he wasn't injured. But once he finally got it the VA treated him very well. From what I understand all enlistees automatically get to use VA and not just combat veterans. Maybe that explains the backlog.

[Peter1469]

Took my father 30 years because for the longest time they pretended he wasn't injured. But once he finally got it the VA treated him very well. From what I understand all enlistees automatically get to use VA and not just combat veterans. Maybe that explains the backlog.

All vets get 5 years of health care from the VA. But only certain classes of vets get lifetime care.

[Ransom]

Well I have been waiting since 2008 to get my VA ID card. I re-applied last fall. Still waiting. Admittedly I am not pushing the issue, because I have private insurance. But if that becomes unaffordable, I will have to put a boot up VA's backside.

Maybe they're only giving ID cards to those that know something about geopolitics.

Just a thought.

[Peter1469]

Maybe they're only giving ID cards to those that know something about geopolitics.

Just a thought.

That was pretty lame, but it made me laugh. Thanks. :wink: Although you should put quotes around the word thought.