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Alyosha
10-01-2013, 04:17 PM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-washington-20131001?mrefid=LeadStoryTiles_normal


Obama's job approval numbers are already slipping. For the first time in months, more voters disapprove of his performance than approve. Two-thirds of Americans think the country is on the wrong track. The "wrong track" metric is one that often tracks the president's popularity. A government cataclysm this month will heighten voters' anxiety and Obama's jeopardy.
The salt in voters' wounds is that this fight does not directly address their biggest issue, jobs. It also not about the nation's long-term, entitlement-fed debt, an existential issue both parties stopped trying to solve.


Where does all this lead beyond the next election cycle or two? Nobody knows, but the best place to look for answers is within the Millennial Generation, the nation's rising leaders and voters. Last month, in a lengthy essay on Millennials [ The Outsiders: How Can Millennials Change Washington If They Hate It? (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/the-outsiders-how-can-millennials-change-washington-if-they-hate-it/278920/)], I concluded that their revolutionary view of government and politics points toward two possible outcomes. One is that they might opt out of Washington, which leads us to some dark places. The second and more likely outcome is they will blow up Washington ("disruption" is the tech-inspired term they use), and build something better outside the current two-party dysfunction.


Millennials don't fit neatly into either the Democratic or Republican parties. They are highly empowered, impatient, and disgusted with politics today.


"This tension two parties thinking they are in the trenches dueling it out, and a burgeoning generation who reject trench warfare altogether is, for me, the key," said Michelle Diggles a senior policy adviser at the Democratic think-tank Third Way and an expert in demographics and generational politics. "Washington doesn't get that change isn't just a slogan. It's about to become a reality,"


"Neither party," she said, "gets what's coming down the pike."


What happens in Washington this month might make a Millennial Revolution all the more likely.





This warms my cold, dark heart just a bit.

GrassrootsConservative
10-01-2013, 04:22 PM
Ah, it would be a blissful splendor beyond belief.

Of course, not for the little government piggies.

Mainecoons
10-01-2013, 04:32 PM
Naw, there's been 17 of these faux shutdowns.

The beginning of the end is the unsustainable spending, piling up of debt and the government about to be engulfed by retiring baby boomers.

The numbers don't work no matter how much you raise taxes or that favorite lefty solution for all ills, soak the rich.

Axiomatic
10-01-2013, 05:17 PM
Oh no! The air traffic controllers... and the bridges... and I could go on

Alyosha
10-01-2013, 05:34 PM
I might have to actually walk around "The Park is Closed" sign.

snali
10-01-2013, 05:39 PM
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-washington-20131001?mrefid=LeadStoryTiles_normal





This warms my cold, dark heart just a bit.
I am curious as to what this "milllennial revolution" would look like if it happens but i doubt that something momumental is going to change washington

Alyosha
10-01-2013, 05:45 PM
I am curious as to what this "milllennial revolution" would look like if it happens but i doubt that something momumental is going to change washington

Libertarian

http://www.policymic.com/articles/33479/rand-paul-libertarianism-is-the-hot-new-thing-for-millennials


The fact that young fiscally conservative, socially liberal millennials supported Obama in the election and he was able to garner 60% of the millennial vote shows just how clueless the Republican Party is. Even more, they have lost their roots.


Ronald Reagan, the poster child of the Republican Party, once said libertarianism is at the heart and soul of the GOP.


Republicans have an opportunity to refocus their efforts through the example of a handful of governors and congressmen who identify themselves as the Republican Liberty Caucus (http://www.rlc.org/). Young guns like Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) have become the most outspoken critics of Obama's policies.


According to Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/libertarianism-89697_Page3.html), libertarianism is going viral. The Republican Party of the future doesn't look like the Grand Old Party of our grandparents' generation; its becoming increasingly libertarian because millennials resonate with it's message of self-reliance. “Republicans value individual liberty, and that means cost-limited constitutional government and respect for individual empowerment rather than an empowered state. In many ways, as libertarianism expands in the party, we’re getting back to its basics," said Jesse Benton, Ron Paul's campaign manager in 2012.
The Republican National Committee issued a report in March called the Growth and Opportunity Project (http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/623664-republican-national-committees-growth-and.html#document/p2) that said its primary goal should be, "to remain the conservative alternative to big-government, redistribution-to-extremes liberalism."


The biggest challenge the GOP has will be in communicating to the establishment that libertarianism may be capable (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/can-a-christian-be-a-libertarian/2011/12/27/gIQA4gruKP_blog.html) to a majority Christian cohort. Despite the fact that there exists a large gap between the oldest and youngest generations over core religious beliefs, the Republican Party has to remember that it formed in under the oaks in Jackson, Michigan as an anti-slavery movement by a constituency that sought to seek freedom for all and became known for it's embrace of classical liberalism. Classical liberalism embraces civil liberties; social issues such as gay marriage and abortion are difficult areas for it to navigate. Thus, libertarianism is more of the fulfillment of the original purpose of the GOP than as it stands in its current form.


Millennials are fed up with the status quo. Libertarianism avails itself to this sentiment. They may not all by cold-hearted like Dagny Taggart or even care who is John Galt, but millennial libertarians are a resurgent force that are here to stay.




People like freedom. They don't like spying. They don't like losing so much of their paycheck because they want shit. They like having choices. They don't like partisan politics.

snali
10-02-2013, 03:27 PM
So are you saying that some sort of libertarian party is going to replace one or both parties?

Alyosha
10-02-2013, 03:47 PM
So are you saying that some sort of libertarian party is going to replace one or both parties?

The author has made and continues to make the argument for eventual technology based panarchism, essentially.

Peter1469
10-02-2013, 05:17 PM
So are you saying that some sort of libertarian party is going to replace one or both parties?

I expect that current policy will cause an economic and currency collapse. What will emerge from that will be closer to libertarian that what we have now.