McCaskill: We Voted On GOP's Bills, So Why Won't Boehner Allow Vote On Ours?

[Ravi]

During an interview with MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell, McCaskill referred to reports this week (http://washingtonexaminer.com/on-capitol-hill-the-obamacare-fight-is-no-longer-about-obamacare/article/2536702) indicating that the Senate's CR could pass the House but Boehner won't bring the bill to the floor out of fear of upsetting the tea party. Passage of that legislation in the House would effectively end the government shutdown.

"I think the biggest problem is, I agree with Speaker Boehner, this isn't a game. This isn't about winning or losing," McCaskill said. "The irony, Speaker Boehner at the top of your show said, 'This isn't a game. I don't want a government shutdown.' And he's in a unique situation in our government, he could end it. He could end it an hour from now. All he has to do is allow the House an opportunity to vote on what the Senate passed."


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccaskill-we-voted-on-gop-s-bills-so-why-won-t-boehner-allow-vote-on-ours

This is probably a rhetorical question (the thread title). I think we all see that Boehner has screwed himself to the wall and allowing a vote means buh-bye to his speakership.

[GrassrootsConservative]

Your extreme partisanship is showing.

The senate gets to reject all they want, but the house doing the same thing?

All of a sudden I can see exactly how you would think the shutdown is Republicans' fault.

[jillian]

Your extreme partisanship is showing.

The senate gets to reject all they want, but the house doing the same thing?

All of a sudden I can see exactly how you would think the shutdown is Republicans' fault.

you really shouldn't talk about anyone else's "partisanship".

[Cthulhu]

I don't see what the big fuss is about. All 'essential' government agencies are still going about ruining the lives of the people, so why are the progs so upset?

[GrassrootsConservative]

I don't see what the big fuss is about. All 'essential' government agencies are still going about ruining the lives of the people, so why are the progs so upset?

Because the "progs" won't be getting their free checks anymore, and that worries them. They don't want to work. They'll do any amount of squealing about this shutdown to keep from working.

/Edit: Same for government workers. They get money for keeping bikers off the trails in DC during the shutdown but if they lose those "jobs" then they will need to start working for someone who will actually make them work instead of standing there with their thumbs twiddling in their assholes.

[Cthulhu]

Because the "progs" won't be getting their free checks anymore, and that worries them. They don't want to work. They'll do any amount of squealing about this shutdown to keep from working.

/Edit: Same for government workers. They get money for keeping bikers off the trails in DC during the shutdown but if they lose those "jobs" then they will need to start working for someone who will actually make them work instead of standing there with their thumbs twiddling in their assholes.

Eh...I doubt it. Plenty of things are still in motion. Hence my wondering why they are butt hurt about the whole thing. And besides, we all know the the GOP is going to cave - we have plenty of historical evidence to support this hypothesis by their past behavior.

They are just doing it slower this time so they can at least pretend to have fought the good fight. Republicans should act like democrats in this instance, yield nothing and demand everything. Seems to have worked for the progs all this time.

[Codename Section]

Eh...I doubt it. Plenty of things are still in motion. Hence my wondering why they are butt hurt about the whole thing. And besides, we all know the the GOP is going to cave - we have plenty of historical evidence to support this hypothesis by their past behavior.

They are just doing it slower this time so they can at least pretend to have fought the good fight. Republicans should act like democrats in this instance, yield nothing and demand everything. Seems to have worked for the progs all this time.

You forgot: and blame the other side for being obstructionists.

You don't have to be truthful, just more vehement.

[Ravi]

FEMA employees called back from furlough....are the FEMA camps being set up or is it because we have a late tropical storm, an early blizzard, and the santa ana winds all at once.

[jillian]

FEMA employees called back from furlough....are the FEMA camps being set up or is it because we have a late tropical storm, an early blizzard, and the santa ana winds all at once.

what's really really cool for the tantrum throwers is that "essential personnel" are still working... but the people who pay them aren't.

isn't that funny?

[Codename Section]

what's really really cool for the tantrum throwers is that "essential personnel" are still working... but the people who pay them aren't.

isn't that funny?

I don't think that's funny. :(

Why don't you guys fund them?

[ptif219]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccaskill-we-voted-on-gop-s-bills-so-why-won-t-boehner-allow-vote-on-ours

This is probably a rhetorical question (the thread title). I think we all see that Boehner has screwed himself to the wall and allowing a vote means buh-bye to his speakership.

She neglects to admit she voted for the shutdown and now wants to bully the GOP.

[Cthulhu]

You forgot: and blame the other side for being obstructionists.

You don't have to be truthful, just more vehement.

Knew I forgot something.

[patrickt]

you really shouldn't talk about anyone else's "partisanship".

Why? You think people might think of you?

[ptif219]

you really shouldn't talk about anyone else's "partisanship".

You want this?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hhs-run-website-hacked-now-selling-nfl-jerseys-ugg-boots-armani-fragrances_759213.html

Or this?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/03/Obamacare-Facebook-Erupts-With-Citizen-Sticker-Shock

Or this?

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_northeast_valley/fountain_hills/fountain-hills-man-dropped-from-health-insurance-because-of-new-regulations

[Codename Section]

Knew I forgot something.

You guys have to vote to end the government shutdown! You're killing sick kids! WWII Vets Can't Go to Their Memorial They Paid For! End the Madness. Vote to End the Shutdown haha we are the ones who approve the budget.

[ptif219]

what's really really cool for the tantrum throwers is that "essential personnel" are still working... but the people who pay them aren't.

isn't that funny?

It is the democrats throwing a tantrum with their hate speech and name calling

[ptif219]

You guys have to vote to end the government shutdown! You're killing sick kids! WWII Vets Can't Go to Their Memorial They Paid For! End the Madness. Vote to End the Shutdown haha we are the ones who approve the budget.

Shutting down memorial in Normandy France is really pissing people off and Obama will not hear the end of that

[Cthulhu]

You guys have to vote to end the government shutdown! You're killing sick kids! WWII Vets Can't Go to Their Memorial They Paid For! End the Madness. Vote to End the Shutdown haha we are the ones who approve the budget.

I doubt I'm alone on this, but let's see.

All veterans please answer this question-

Would you sacrifice your Vet bennies (if they could even be called that) for the gov to stay shut down?

[Codename Section]

I doubt I'm alone on this, but let's see.

All veterans please answer this question-

Would you sacrifice your Vet bennies (if they could even be called that) for the gov to stay shut down?

LOL, I will sacrifice them for a real shut down. This is a pseudo shut down.

[Cthulhu]

LOL, I will sacrifice them for a real shut down. This is a pseudo shut down.

Point taken.

Newly adjusting question then.

Would vets sacrificed Vet bennies for a REAL shut down?

[Codename Section]

Mr. Evil

Our generation--you know the one they not only lied to but sold into debt slavery to China? Would you characterize us former vets as being antistate now because we know that the government is capable of not only reckless horseshit but down right evil crap as well?

Once you know what the government is capable of, you don't want it anymore. You'd be an idiot to. Luckily, like all large systems on funny money it will collapse under its own weight within a few years.

[Codename Section]

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If the Democrats didn't have a cult to Obama I'd probably only hate him as much as I hate Bush. It's this horseshit where they try to sell me on him being the lesser of the two evils.

[Peter1469]

This is a dem tamper tantrum.

[Cthulhu]

@Mr. Evil (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=872)

Our generation--you know the one they not only lied to but sold into debt slavery to China? Would you characterize us former vets as being antistate now because we know that the government is capable of not only reckless horseshit but down right evil crap as well?

Well...yeah, basically.



Once you know what the government is capable of, you don't want it anymore. You'd be an idiot to. Luckily, like all large systems on funny money it will collapse under its own weight within a few years.

It is essentially a waiting game now. Wait for it to starve.

[Contrails]

Your extreme partisanship is showing.

The senate gets to reject all they want, but the house doing the same thing?

All of a sudden I can see exactly how you would think the shutdown is Republicans' fault.

It's Republican's fault because they are not allowing the bicameral legislative process to work. The Senate has voted on the House's bills. How many Senate bills has the House voted on?

[ptif219]

It's Republican's fault because they are not allowing the bicameral legislative process to work. The Senate has voted on the House's bills. How many Senate bills has the House voted on?

Funny a Democrat would say that when the democrats and Obama have not passed a budget in 4 years

[Contrails]

Funny a Democrat would say that when the democrats and Obama have not passed a budget in 4 years

Funny that you would say that when the Democratic Senate passed Concurrent Resolution 8 (http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.113sconres8) back on March 23, 2014. Maybe you could tell me what the House did with it.

[Alyosha]

It's Republican's fault because they are not allowing the bicameral legislative process to work. The Senate has voted on the House's bills. How many Senate bills has the House voted on?

This is just not true. The Democratic Senate was less than obliging until they started to lose the House, now they ask for fairness. It's a transparent tactic to anyone not a Democrat.

btw, I'm not a Republican or a Conservative so I say this from a pure place of unadulterated partisan hate.

[ptif219]

Funny that you would say that when the Democratic Senate passed Concurrent Resolution 8 (http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.113sconres8) back on March 23, 2014. Maybe you could tell me what the House did with it.

One bill compared to 4 years. It is Reid that has blocked 30 or 40 GOP bills not even allowing them to the senate floor. The democrats are the obstructionists and have created this mess. Obamacare websites now have to shutdown for repairs because they are not ready. The GOP bill to delay obamacare was the correct way to go to fix the problems. The democrats want to make your information available to hackers. When the administration says make it as painful as possible they no longer give a damn about the country or the people

[Contrails]

This is just not true. The Democratic Senate was less than obliging until they started to lose the House, now they ask for fairness. It's a transparent tactic to anyone not a Democrat.

btw, I'm not a Republican or a Conservative so I say this from a pure place of unadulterated partisan hate.

Please tell me how many House budgets the Senate has voted on? Now tell me how many Senate budgets the House has voted on?

[Alyosha]

Please tell me how many House budgets the Senate has voted on? Now tell me how many Senate budgets the House has voted on?

This is a lot of demands for a Saturday. Why don't you provide it? I'm sure we're all curious about this data seeing as how we haven't actually had a budget in 6 years.

Thanks for providing it.

[countryboy]

what's really really cool for the tantrum throwers is that "essential personnel" are still working... but the people who pay them aren't.

isn't that funny?
Why are there "non essential" personnel in the first place?

[patrickt]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mccaskill-we-voted-on-gop-s-bills-so-why-won-t-boehner-allow-vote-on-ours

This is probably a rhetorical question (the thread title). I think we all see that Boehner has screwed himself to the wall and allowing a vote means buh-bye to his speakership.

I'm not surprised that TalkingPointsMemo, Ravi, and Sen. McCaskill don't mention the more than 15 bills that the House passed and the Senate under Sen. Harry Reid's rule refused to take to the floor for a vote.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/15-real-jobs-bills-stalled-in-the-senate

I love it when leftists whine about the Republicans not voting on a bill and how uncivil they are. Lying is considered a virtue for leftists.

[jillian]

I'm not surprised that TalkingPointsMemo, Ravi, and Sen. McCaskill don't mention the more than 15 bills that the House passed and the Senate under Sen. Harry Reid's rule refused to take to the floor for a vote.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/15-real-jobs-bills-stalled-in-the-senate

I love it when leftists whine about the Republicans not voting on a bill and how uncivil they are. Lying is considered a virtue for leftists.

perhaps the rightwing should pose bills that would actually be acceptable to people who aren't rightwing extremists?

which bills, specifically, are you referring to?

what is contained in those bills that would even make them moderately acceptable to anyone but rightwing extremists

[Alyosha]

perhaps the rightwing should pose bills that would actually be acceptable to people who aren't rightwing extremists?


Why weren't Democrats proposing a health care plan that would be acceptable to people who aren't left wing extremists?

[countryboy]

perhaps the rightwing should pose bills that would actually be acceptable to people who aren't rightwing extremists?

which bills, specifically, are you referring to?

what is contained in those bills that would even make them moderately acceptable to anyone but rightwing extremists
Your overuse of the term "rightwing extremist" is truly pathetic.

[ptif219]

Please tell me how many House budgets the Senate has voted on? Now tell me how many Senate budgets the House has voted on?

Google is your friend. Explain why in 2010 when the Democrats had the majority in both houses they refused to pass a budget

[ptif219]

perhaps the rightwing should pose bills that would actually be acceptable to people who aren't rightwing extremists?

which bills, specifically, are you referring to?

what is contained in those bills that would even make them moderately acceptable to anyone but rightwing extremists

Maybe democrats should follow the rules instead of showing their hate

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/4/reid-apologizes-nasty-tone-senate-floor/

[Contrails]

Google is your friend. Explain why in 2010 when the Democrats had the majority in both houses they refused to pass a budget

Because with the election of Scott Brown in January 2010, Republicans had enough votes in the Senate to block any legislation. Maybe you should switch to Bing. http://www.bingiton.com

[Contrails]

This is a lot of demands for a Saturday. Why don't you provide it? I'm sure we're all curious about this data seeing as how we haven't actually had a budget in 6 years.

Thanks for providing it.

Six years is it now? I guess the federal budget passed in 2009 (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/29/politics/main4977653.shtml) don't count.

[ptif219]

Because with the election of Scott Brown in January 2010, Republicans had enough votes in the Senate to block any legislation. Maybe you should switch to Bing. http://www.bingiton.com

That is total crap and you know it. Show proof the GOP blocked a budget in 2010