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Cigar
10-07-2013, 07:54 AM
Ken Cuccinelliís Incredibly Lackluster Campaign

Heís underfunded, underfavored, and uncool. And Ken Cuccinelli isnít getting any help from Ted Cruz either. Lloyd Green on how Virginiaís Republican gubernatorial candidate is running scared.

Ken Cuccinelli is running scared. At a Saturday night gala of the Family Foundation, Cuccinelli avoided taking the stage together with the driving force of the government shutdown, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX). Cuccinelli also dodged joint photo-op with Texasí junior senator, and let it be known that he asked Cruz to compromise on the budget stalemate. Virginiaís Republican gubernatorial candidate wants to be liked enough by the furloughed federal employees who live in Northern Virginiaís suburbs, but he also wants to associate himself with Cruz, but not too much. That kind of dexterity requires tremendous personal and political talent, which Cuccinelli lacks.

And if a government shutdown isnít enough to complicate Cuccinelliís lackluster campaign, there are always the polls and Robert Sarvis, the Libertarian gubernatorial nominee. The latest numbers show Cuccinelli trailing Democrat Terry McAuliffe by about five points, with Sarvis running third, and garnering at least 10 percent of the vote.

Third party candidates are supposed to be asterisks or jokes, but Sarvis is neither, and thatís not good news for Cuccinelli. Sarvis, a software engineer and lawyer, is getting most of his support from white voters, men, and middle aged Virginians. In other words, Sarvis is making a real dent among Cuccinelliís prime voting base.

The fact that Sarvis is also doing particularly well among voters under 30 further highlights the gap between the Republican Party and younger Americans. There seems to be little that Cuccinelli can do about any of this. Underfunded, underfavored, and uncool is not where any politician wants to be. But, that is exactly where Cuccinelli is right now.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/07/ken-cuccinelli-s-incredibly-lackluster-campaign.html



Say By By to the Virginia Governorship :grin:

Alyosha
10-07-2013, 07:58 AM
Cuccinelli was never expected to win. Do you keep up with papers?

Mainecoons
10-07-2013, 07:59 AM
Don't feed the troll.

:grin:

Cigar
10-07-2013, 08:42 AM
Cuccinelli was never expected to win. Do you keep up with papers?

you don't have to apologize to me ... talk to the GOP

Cigar
10-07-2013, 08:42 AM
Don't feed the troll.

:grin:

Don't screw the pooch :laugh:

jillian
10-07-2013, 08:43 AM
Cuccinelli was never expected to win. Do you keep up with papers?

they didn't nominate him because he was supposed to lose.

Green Arrow
10-07-2013, 08:44 AM
Cuccinelli was never expected to win. Do you keep up with papers?

Pretty much. I'm pretty good at predicting political races, and there's never been a point in this race that I thought Cooch could win. Of course, Tiny Terry's only boost is because of McDonnell's fuckery. Nobody really likes him, either. If Bill Bolling got in the race right now as an independent, he'd win hands down.

Cigar
10-07-2013, 08:48 AM
they didn't nominate him because he was supposed to lose.

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: But But But But But

Cigar
10-07-2013, 08:50 AM
Pretty much. I'm pretty good at predicting political races, and there's never been a point in this race that I thought Cooch could win. Of course, Tiny Terry's only boost is because of McDonnell's fuckery. Nobody really likes him, either. If Bill Bolling got in the race right now as an independent, he'd win hands down.

Assume the Tucking Tail Position :laugh:

http://www.la-juice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/tuckedtail-e1311606592416.jpg

Green Arrow
10-07-2013, 08:53 AM
Assume the Tucking Tail Position :laugh:

http://www.la-juice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/tuckedtail-e1311606592416.jpg

What the hell are you talking about? I don't have a dog in this fight. If Cooch and Tiny Terry were on fire and I had to piss like a Russian race horse, I'd walk all the way across town just to avoid the possibility of the slightest splash on them.

Unlike you, I happen to be an honest individual. If I think something is bad, I think it is bad, period. Not bad when their guy does it but okay when my guy does it, no, it's just plain bad.

jillian
10-07-2013, 08:56 AM
Pretty much. I'm pretty good at predicting political races, and there's never been a point in this race that I thought Cooch could win. Of course, Tiny Terry's only boost is because of McDonnell's fuckery. Nobody really likes him, either. If Bill Bolling got in the race right now as an independent, he'd win hands down.

he couldn't even win the republican nomination. why would a democrat vote for romney's WVA campaign chair?


In 2012, Bolling was the Virginia state Chairman of Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign,_2012),[14] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-14) a position he hoped to use to curry favor from a potential Romney administration and increase his own name recognition among state Republicans.[8] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-watimes-8) Through the second quarter of 2012, Bolling had a significant edge in fundraising over Cuccinelli.[15] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-15) However, Cuccinelli had a wide lead in early polling - a June 2012 poll of Virginia Republicans showed 51% supported Cuccinelli for governor compared to just 15% for Bolling.[16] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-16) Further diminishing Bolling's hopes was a June 2012 decision by the Republican Party of Virginia's State Central Committee to determine the nominee for Governor at a statewide convention of Republicans rather than an open primary - conservatives overwhelmingly backed Cuccinelli while more moderates backed Bolling, and conservatives tend to dominate conventions.[17] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-17)[18] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-politico11272012-18)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Bolling

this is the same type of non-reality-based assessment that makes certain types think ron paul could ever have been president.

Green Arrow
10-07-2013, 09:00 AM
he couldn't even win the republican nomination. why would a democrat vote for romney's WVA campaign chair?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Bolling

this is the same type of non-reality-based assessment that makes certain types think ron paul could ever have been president.[/SUP]

It's called "alternative." Put up two extremely unpopular candidates that play exclusively to their respective bases. Let them sully each other. Then throw in a moderate that appeals to all voters. Alternative wins.

I get that you think you can only win races in this country if you're a Republican or a Democrat, but there have been multiple examples of individuals winning statewide races by getting between an unpopular Republican and an unpopular Democrat. Three of them have served on the Senate in the last few years.

Green Arrow
10-07-2013, 09:01 AM
As for not winning the Republican nomination?

I don't know about you, but if someone fails to win a Republican nomination, I'm more likely to look into them seriously, not less. The kind of people that win Republican nominations tend to be elitist douchebags that I don't want anywhere near public office.

Common
10-07-2013, 10:32 AM
Theres going to be more and more republicans distancing themselves from Cruz

Green Arrow
10-07-2013, 10:38 AM
Theres going to be more and more republicans distancing themselves from Cruz

Well, here's a leftist standing up for Cruz.

Bite me.

jillian
10-07-2013, 11:19 AM
Well, here's a leftist standing up for Cruz.

Bite me.

you aren't a "leftist" if you think cruz is any type of acceptable... and if you think the good republican bolling should have been governor of VA.

he was for drill, baby, drill... and this is what governor ultrasound said about him:


After Bolling withdrew his bid for the GOP gubernatorial nomination in 2013, McDonnell commented, "I have also told Bill how much this Commonwealth needs him to stay involved in public life in the years ahead. And I know he is not done advocating positive conservative ideas.”[9] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-withdraw-8)

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Bill_Bolling


he's the best possible GOP soldier. there is no "alternative" there.

Green Arrow
10-07-2013, 12:01 PM
you aren't a "leftist" if you think cruz is any type of acceptable... and if you think the good republican bolling should have been governor of VA.

Don't be so petty. Leftist philosophy existed long before the Democratic Party. I don't have to choke down your party line just to maintain my philosophical identity.

Further, I didn't say Bolling SHOULD be governor. I said if the choice is Cooch or Terry, I'd prefer Bolling. He's the more centrist of the three.


he was for drill, baby, drill...

Well, Jesus, let's crucify him then.


and this is what governor ultrasound said about him:

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Bill_Bolling (http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Bill_Bolling)

he's the best possible GOP soldier. there is no "alternative" there.

There is. Why don't you show his record, rather than an endorsement from a fellow member of the party and one position?