The GOP Has Been PLANNING The Government SHUTDOWN Since Last Year.

[Cigar]

HERE'S THE PROOF!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SDzYsvcoI6U
http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/house-gop-plan-obamacare-shutdown.png

The letter was originally presented to FreedomWorks as a memorandum from the Conservative Action Project. Led by the late President Ronald Reagan‘s (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/09/how-reagan-wrecked-the-american-middle-class-and-came-out-smelling-like-a-rose/) former Attorney General Edwin Meese III, CAP held a hush-hush meeting at an undisclosed location in the Capitol shortly after President Barack Obama started his second term. After the meeting, leaders from over 36 conservative groups signed on to this evil strategy. If you have the stomach for it, you click here to read the entire thing. (http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/ryanriebe/joint-letter-on-sequester-savings)

House GOP government shutdown bought and paid for by the Koch brothers Sheryl Gay Stolberg’s New York Times article also reports that the David and Charles Koch, and their affiliated groups, threw some pretty big bucks around. Freedom Partners distributed $200 million to various “grassroots” anti-Obamacare groups. Meanwhile, the Americans for Prosperity plunked down $5.5 million for anti-Obamacare television ads. Freedom Partners also paid an additional $115 million to the egregiously misnamed Center to Protect Patient Rights. Meanwhile, the youthful and comparatively thrifty Generation Opportunity spent a scant $740 thousand on their creepy Uncle Sam ad. (http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/09/28/creepy-uncle-sam-is-back-and-being-creepy-again/) in hopes of scaring us away from Obamacare’s state health insurance exchanges.


http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/07/house-gop-plot-obamacare-shutdown/

[Alyosha]

If this were true, if they really wanted to shut down the whole US government I would vote GOP starting now.

[AmazonTania]

The GOP voted to fund 100% of the Government minus Obamacare.

How exactly does that fall into their 'plan' that they've had for over two years?

[Common]

There are many sites and newspapers reporting this, I didnt post it because of well the responses you got :)
No matter how much in denial the conservatives here are, the gop is not looking good to the american people, in fact there are teaparty candidates in trouble in their districts and in 4 at the moment there are business and citizens groups fielding candidates to run against them in primaries.
The teaparty is doing what every group that rises too fast and gets drunk with a small amount of power, they shoot their wad and implode.

[AmazonTania]

It's funny how my question gets ignored.

[Captain Obvious]

Cigar sourced the interweb so it must be true.

[Common]

Cigar sourced the interweb so it must be true.

Dont just single him out everything posted here is sourced from the web :P

[Common]

The GOP voted to fund 100% of the Government minus Obamacare.

How exactly does that fall into their 'plan' that they've had for over two years?


Read the article, the plan to defund obamcare was started when he got elected

[Cigar]

The GOP voted to fund 100% of the Government minus Obamacare.

How exactly does that fall into their 'plan' that they've had for over two years?



And The President of The United States, The Democratic Party and The 51% of American Voters said Fork No!

[Cigar]

Read the article, the plan to defund obamcare was started when he got elected

They are in Complete and Total Denial ... :laugh:

[AmazonTania]

Defunding Obamacare and Shutting The Government Down are not the same.

You do know this, right?

[AmazonTania]

And The President of The United States, The Democratic Party and The 51% of American Voters said Fork No!

That doesn't answer the question.

How does Voting to fund 100% of Government minus Obamacare fall into the plan of shutting down the Government?

[jillian]

Cigar sourced the interweb so it must be true.


most of us, who don't live in the bubble, have seen the videos of them talking about it even before the 2010 election...

[jillian]

Defunding Obamacare and Shutting The Government Down are not the same.

You do know this, right?

oh wow... brilliant deduction...

except that they're trying to shut down the government to get their way on the other....

and then they'll do it with everything else they want and stamp their widdle feet for.

[jillian]

If this were true, if they really wanted to shut down the whole US government I would vote GOP starting now.

vote for it, Alyosha or stamp their feet no matter how many times they've lost? you have the right to vote... they lost.

[AmazonTania]

oh wow... brilliant deduction...

except that they're trying to shut down the government to get their way on the other....

and then they'll do it with everything else they want and stamp their widdle feet for.

Voting to fund everything except for Obamacare is not 'trying to shut down the government to get their way.' Congress was given the power of the purse for a reason. They have the authority to fund whatever portions of Government they want. It's in the constitution. Maybe you've read it?

[Cigar]

That doesn't answer the question.

How does Voting to fund 100% of Government minus Obamacare fall into the plan of shutting down the Government?

President Obama said NO ... where you listening :laugh:

[Cigar]

Voting to fund everything except for Obamacare is not 'trying to shut down the government to get their way.' Congress was given the power of the purse for a reason. They have the authority to fund whatever portions of Government they want. It's in the constitution. Maybe you've read it?

ObamaCare and Government Funding are two separate things ... argument over.

[Libhater]

It's funny how my question gets ignored.

Yeah, it is amazing how someone came right in after your post blaming the Republicans without bothering to acknowledge your very fitting question concerning the Republican funding of our government. These libs have an inability to comprehend what would be common sense to we Conservatives, Americans in general and Republicans as a whole.

[AmazonTania]

President Obama said NO ... where you listening :laugh:

Obama can say whatever he likes. This is about a system of checks and balances. Republicans voted for 100% of government minus Obamacare, and the Senate plus Obama took the bill down. What I would like to know is how does the plan to fund the Government fall into their plan to defund the government which has been into the works for two years.

Maybe you'd like to get that question, which you have conveniently ignored?

[Cigar]

Yeah, it is amazing how someone came right in after your post blaming the Republicans without bothering to acknowledge your very fitting question concerning the Republican funding of our government. These libs have an inability to comprehend what would be common sense to we Conservatives, Americans in general and Republicans as a whole.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131007-question-if-the-democrats-were-the-ones-who-wanted-the-shutdown.jpg

Their partisans in Washington have shut down the government and, as the debt ceiling deadline nears, have given much of the country a case of the shakes. But these are heady times for the tea party.

“It’s amazing how we can be completely irrelevant and shut down Congress at the same time,” one of the movement’s early organizers, Mark Meckler, chortled at a Saturday evening gathering at the weekend state Republican party convention in Anaheim.

“And they say the tea party is dead?” he opened.

Not quite. The movement may not have demonstrated electoral heft in California yet — Republicans hold no state offices and are outmanned in Sacramento and in Washington, and tea party members can claim only some of those seats.

But they made themselves heard this weekend. Members helped push several resolutions during Sunday’s general session, including ones to require voters to show identification before casting ballots and to gut the state’s high speed rail program.

more:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-california-tea-party-government-shutdown-20131006,0,4367096.story

[AmazonTania]

ObamaCare and Government Funding are two separate things ... argument over.

Maybe to someone who can't grasp basic governmental accounting.

[Cigar]

Obama can say whatever he likes. This is about a system of checks and balances. Republicans voted for 100% of government minus Obamacare, and the Senate plus Obama took the bill down. What I would like to know is how does the plan to fund the Government fall into their plan to defund the government which has been into the works for two years.

Maybe you'd like to get that question, which you have conveniently ignored?


We went through the Checks-and-Balances ... Elections then supported by the Supreme Court

You Lost ... Get Over it

[jillian]

Maybe to someone who can't grasp basic governmental accounting.

or maybe you can't grasp that their temper tantrum didn't hold up the ACA for even 10 seconds...

oops

[jillian]

We went through the Checks-and-Balances ... Elections then supported by the Supreme Court

You Lost ... Get Over it

why would she do that when there is so much disinformation and misinformation to purvey?

[AmazonTania]

or maybe you can't grasp that their temper tantrum didn't hold up the ACA for even 10 seconds...

oops

And somehow ACA is not operational for anyone.

Funny how that works.

[AmazonTania]

We went through the Checks-and-Balances ... Elections then supported by the Supreme Court

You Lost ... Get Over it

That's great. And there is still no funding for Obamacare and the Government is shutdown because Democrats sat by and let it happen.

The nation loses. Get over it.

[Alyosha]

Read the article, the plan to defund obamcare was started when he got elected

If you don't want Obamacare why wouldn't you plan to defund it. Jesus, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure this out. They were saying they would do it the whole time.

These Democrat "gotchas" are getting worse and worse.

It would be like someone saying to me: "Aha! You want minarchy!" I'd go "Uhhh, yeh."

[AmazonTania]

Oh and BTW, Obama unconstitutionally decided to enforce parts of his own law that he didn't like because he knew it would impact a further election, like delaying the employer mandate past 2014. But somehow we're supposed to get in a tizzy when Congress constitutionally delays a law or defunds a law it doesn't like.

There isn't enough adjectives in the world to describe the ignorance and double standards of these progressives. And, if there is anything Nixon has taught us, "When the President does it, it's not illegal."