Leadership In Your Face; Now it your move Boehner to show some Balls

[Cigar]

White House: Obama Will Never Negotiate On The Debt Limit Again

White House spokesman Jay Carney said Monday that lifting the debt ceiling will be non-negotiable for as long as Barack Obama is president.

"Whether it's today, or a number of weeks from now, or a number of months from now, or a number of years from now, it will always be Congress's responsibility to raise our debt ceiling so that the United States can pay the bills that Congress has incurred," he told reporters during his daily briefing.

"It will always be, as long as he's president, President Obama's position that that responsibility is not negotiable. That there's not a game of trading for political priorities or agenda items that Republicans have not been able to achieve through legislation or the ballot box."

Carney said the White House supports efforts in the Senate to pass a "clean" debt limit hike.

Source: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/white-house-obama-will-never-negotiate-on-the-debt-limit-again


Tuck in your String John Boehner and come back to work :grin:

[Alyosha]

That's not leadership anymore than it is when a child holds it breath til you give it a candybar. However, the fact that you see it as leadership explains a lot about how fucked we all are.

[Cigar]

That's not leadership anymore than it is when a child holds it breath til you give it a candybar. However, the fact that you see it as leadership explains a lot about how fucked we all are.

Exactly ... The Republicans Lost ... End of Story ... Deal with or Win Elections ... Period !

[Alyosha]

Sure.

http://ourdictator.com/images/dictator_obama.gif

[Green Arrow]

Exactly ... The Republicans Lost ... End of Story ... Deal with or Win Elections ... Period !

Welllllll, not exactly. If we're honest with ourselves, less than half of the country actually voted, and of that less than half, only slightly more than half voted for Obama. So technically, Obama only got elected by maybe 20% of the population. That's not a victory, and I know he's your guy, but if he were MY guy, I wouldn't even care that he won, I'd be greatly disturbed that he won with only around 20% of the nation's eligible voters backing him.

[Green Arrow]

Hell, thinking about it, if I were the one running and it were ME personally who won that election, I'd still be disturbed that it was with only around 20% of eligible voters.

[jillian]

That's not leadership anymore than it is when a child holds it breath til you give it a candybar. However, the fact that you see it as leadership explains a lot about how fucked we all are.

no Alyosha

that is what you say to extortionists.

the right loves talking about "we the people"

we the people didn't elect the teaparty to run this country;
we the people didn't elect john boehner to run this country
we the people didn't vote for the GOP budgetary priorities (or lack thereof)
we the people didn't vote for rightwing bullying...

now they need to get their little selves out of the way and stop trying to destroy our economy because they're a bunch of loony sorelosers who came to washington to shut it down

(then they can go home to the fund for growth and gets lots of campaign cash! woohoo!)

[Mainecoons]

So you voted for left wing bullying and thuggery towards veterans and families wanting to visit "their" monuments.

OK, that is very consistent of you.

[Alyosha]

no @Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)

that is what you say to extortionists.

I don't play that, @jillian (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=719). I'm not a partisan and I understand the function of a republic. Representatives are elected for the purpose of pushing forward the agenda of their district's constituents.

Sorry if this bothers you, but that is the function of representatives in a democratic republic. All the whining and foot stomping because those people living in the districts that elected those reps don't want what you want doesn't change the fact that the process for a representative democracy is to take to Washington the will of the constituents.

Sometimes it will be a messy process, but that is how it goes. If you feel extorted, that's your emotions talking, not reality.

[Mainecoons]

Jillian's thug government at work:

SCARE: OBAMA ADMIN SAYS SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS IN JEOPARDY... (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/10/07/social-security-warns-benefits-could-get-cut/)

FEEL THE PAIN: NIH Stops Therapy Dogs From Visiting Sick Children... (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/nih-stops-therapy-dogs-visiting-sick-children)

'Shutdown' Day 8: Gov't Buys $47,000 Mechanical Bull... (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/eric-scheiner/shutdown-day-7-government-buys-47174-mechanical-bull)

Police Arrest Veterans at NYC Memorial... (http://www.infowars.com/police-arrest-veterans-at-nyc-memorial/)

Park Service approves amnesty rally on 'closed' National Mall... (http://washingtonexaminer.com/park-service-oks-immigration-reform-rally-on-closed-national-mall/article/2536908)

[Green Arrow]

no @Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)

that is what you say to extortionists.

the right loves talking about "we the people"

we the people didn't elect the teaparty to run this country;
we the people didn't elect john boehner to run this country
we the people didn't vote for the GOP budgetary priorities (or lack thereof)
we the people didn't vote for rightwing bullying...

now they need to get their little selves out of the way and stop trying to destroy our economy because they're a bunch of loony sorelosers who came to washington to shut it down

(then they can go home to the fund for growth and gets lots of campaign cash! woohoo!)

John Boehner and the Tea Party were elected to put forth a specific ideology. It doesn't matter what the rest of the country votes for, as long as their districts and states vote for them to act a certain way and support certain policies, that is their job.

Since when did the prevalence of YOUR type of voter take away MY right to representation?

[Mainecoons]

As you pointed out, their type of voter accounted for 20 percent of the electorate.

[Alyosha]

John Boehner and the Tea Party were elected to put forth a specific ideology. It doesn't matter what the rest of the country votes for, as long as their districts and states vote for them to act a certain way and support certain policies, that is their job.

Since when did the prevalence of YOUR type of voter take away MY right to representation?


It is because they feel they know best, because they feel they are smarter, and therefore they should be allowed to make all the rules.

[Cigar]

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/131008-shutdown-day-8-priorities.jpg

[jillian]

John Boehner and the Tea Party were elected to put forth a specific ideology. It doesn't matter what the rest of the country votes for, as long as their districts and states vote for them to act a certain way and support certain policies, that is their job.

Since when did the prevalence of YOUR type of voter take away MY right to representation?

they lost...

and when the good folks of texas told women to go f"k themselves, not one of you whined that they had no right to do it because women weren't represented in the majority

you don't get to be extortionists.

and yes, elections have consequences.... just like the garbage that baby bush did to this country for eight years... again... the GOP said it had a "mandate" to do things even though they didn't even win the general election in 2000.

so again, elections have consequences....


but the losers (who don't even represent a quarter of this country) don't get to dictate terms. that's not the way it works.

and i look forward to them getting their butts kicked next november since there are now over 20 GOP seats at risk.... because of their lunacy.

then you get to see what happens when the loons lose their place at the table.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/06/gop-house-2014-polls_n_4050686.html

and how are they your "kind of voter" if you're a leftie?

[Green Arrow]

they lost...

No, Mitt Romney and a bunch of Republicans lost a few races in the Presidency, Senate, and some in the House. That has no bearing on the fact that Republicans still hold seats in government. Those seats exist to represent the people who voted them into those seats, and their election is the only one that matters. It doesn't matter if every seat in Congress save for one in the Senate and one in the House goes Democrat, those two seats are still there to represent Republicans.


and when the good folks of texas told women to go f"k themselves, not one of you whined that they had no right to do it because women weren't represented in the majority

Yeah, because I wasn't on this forum then. Are you really going to judge me because I wasn't around to make a comment?


you don't get to be extortionists.

How am I an extortionist, exactly?


and yes, elections have consequences.... just like the garbage that baby bush did to this country for eight years... again... the GOP said it had a "mandate" to do things even though they didn't even win the general election in 2000.

Yeah, and they were just as retarded as Democrats are now. Less than half of the country even voted, that's not a "mandate."


so again, elections have consequences....

The only consequence elections have is that minority parties have a harder time getting their agenda passed. It doesn't mean they have to completely abandon their agenda and do everything the Democrats say. I don't think you realize that all this shit you spout will be turned right back around on you if Republicans can learn how to win elections again.


but the losers (who don't even represent a quarter of this country) don't get to dictate terms. that's not the way it works.

No, the way it works is people are elected to represent their districts. If their districts are majority Republican, they are supposed to represent the Republican agenda. If their district is majority Democrat, they are supposed to represent the Democrat agenda. If their district is majority independent, they are supposed to go with both sides depending on the policy.

That's how it works. We live in a representative democracy, not a total war, one-party dictatorship.


and i look forward to them getting their butts kicked next november since there are now over 20 GOP seats at risk.... because of their lunacy.

then you get to see what happens when the loons lose their place at the table.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/06/gop-house-2014-polls_n_4050686.html

I honestly don't care who wins or loses at this point. That's irrelevant to this discussion. Why should Democrats winning a majority automatically take the right to representation away from Republicans, and vice versa?


and how are they your "kind of voter" if you're a leftie?

They aren't. The point of my question is if you and I are on opposite sides, you and yours winning a majority does not strip me of my right to representation. Does it not?

[Cigar]

Hell, thinking about it, if I were the one running and it were ME personally who won that election, I'd still be disturbed that it was with only around 20% of eligible voters.

So for there's no Law that demands individual to Vote ... so until then, it's still the one with the most Wins.

That's how it's been since the first Presidential Election ... it was good enough for the other 43 Presidents ... but then they weren't ... :rollseyes:

[Agravan]

So for there's no Law that demands individual to Vote ... so until then, it's still the one with the most Wins.

That's how it's been since the first Presidential Election ... it was good enough for the other 43 Presidents ... but then they weren't ... :rollseyes:

We need to have Admin install a CIGAR to ENGLISH translator.

[Green Arrow]

So for there's no Law that demands individual to Vote ... so until then, it's still the one with the most Wins.

That's how it's been since the first Presidential Election ... it was good enough for the other 43 Presidents ... but then they weren't ... :rollseyes:

Oh, shut the hell up. I've about had it with the stupid, sophomoric cries of racism when people criticize Obama. Are you a racist for hating Bush? Or are you one of those special idiots that only thinks it's racism if it's a black guy on the receiving end?

[Cigar]

We need to have Admin install a CIGAR to ENGLISH translator.

There are plenty of open-source transliteration applications ...

[Cigar]

Oh, shut the hell up. I've about had it with the stupid, sophomoric cries of racism when people criticize Obama. Are you a racist for hating Bush? Or are you one of those special idiots that only thinks it's racism if it's a black guy on the receiving end?

First ... I'll shut up when I want to and not a micro-second before ... ever.

Second ... I never hated Bush, I enjoyed The Bush Presidency ... it's why we now have Obama.

Third ... I never think of myself as special nor do fear any cowards who publicly insults Forum Members opening on the Forum

Hopefully this doesn’t leave anyone feeling threaten or hurts anyone’s delicate sensibilities ... after all you're entitled to your opinions, even if it openly breaks Forum Rules.

~ Sincerely ...
The Black Guy who isn't entitled to his opinions or is allowed to openly break Forum Rules.

[Green Arrow]

First ... I'll shut up when I want to and not a micro-second before ... ever.

Second ... I never hated Bush, I enjoyed The Bush Presidency ... it's why we now have Obama.

Third ... I never think of myself as special nor do fear any cowards who publicly insults Forum Members opening on the Forum

Hopefully this doesn’t leave anyone feeling threaten or hurts anyone’s delicate sensibilities ... after all you're entitled to your opinions, even if it openly breaks Forum Rules.

~ Sincerely ...
The Black Guy who isn't entitled to his opinions or is allowed to openly break Forum Rules.

Grow up. I've seen you dish it plenty of times.

[Agravan]

First ... I'll shut up when I want to and not a micro-second before ... ever.

Second ... I never hated Bush, I enjoyed The Bush Presidency ... it's why we now have Obama.

Third ... I never think of myself as special nor do fear any cowards who publicly insults Forum Members opening on the Forum

Hopefully this doesn’t leave anyone feeling threaten or hurts anyone’s delicate sensibilities ... after all you're entitled to your opinions, even if it openly breaks Forum Rules.

~ Sincerely ...
The Black Guy who isn't entitled to his opinions or is allowed to openly break Forum Rules.

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww208/tsikes_bucket/internettoughguy.png

[Cigar]

Grow up. I've seen you dish it plenty of times.

Dishing it out isn't a problem for me, because that's what I was born to do. :wink:

[Cigar]

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[Agravan]

Dishing it out isn't a problem for me, because that's what I was born to do. :wink:

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/795/Cry-baby.jpg

[Cigar]

I think Labron can be a cry baby also ... but didn't he have Back-2-Back Championships ... just like Obama :grin:

Ooops ... :laugh: that's going t leave a scratch

[keymanjim]

First ... I'll shut up when I want to and not a micro-second before ... ever.

Second ... I never hated Bush, I enjoyed The Bush Presidency ... it's why we now have Obama.

Third ... I never think of myself as special nor do fear any cowards who publicly insults Forum Members opening on the Forum

Hopefully this doesn’t leave anyone feeling threaten or hurts anyone’s delicate sensibilities ... after all you're entitled to your opinions, even if it openly breaks Forum Rules.

~ Sincerely ...
The Black Guy who isn't entitled to his opinions or is allowed to openly break Forum Rules.
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[Cigar]

Yea you work on Plan B ... Ok

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[Green Arrow]

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LOL, early Luke Cage. He was funny. I much prefer his newer, far less corny version:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/gallerypictures/26695L.jpg

[Alyosha]

First ... I'll shut up when I want to and not a micro-second before ... ever.

I believe everyone knows this. You're like an old woman having coffee with imaginary friends.




Second ... I never hated Bush, I enjoyed The Bush Presidency ... it's why we now have Obama.


Very true.



Third ... I never think of myself as special nor do fear any cowards who publicly insults Forum Members opening on the Forum


You should probably keep thinking that way after that grammar strangling.



Hopefully this doesn’t leave anyone feeling threaten or hurts anyone’s delicate sensibilities ... after all you're entitled to your opinions, even if it openly breaks Forum Rules.


So does posting in good faith and not trolling, but that doesn't seem to stop you so keep on keepin' on.



~ Sincerely ...
The Black Guy who isn't entitled to his opinions or is allowed to openly break Forum Rules.

You're actually the black and white guy on this forum since all you are is pixels on a screen.