Heritage Foundation Will Sacrifice Its Own Son, Obamacare, To Appease Angry God

[nic34]

Did you know that Obamacare is the worst thing since the Holocaust and 9/11 made love and gave birth to the BENGHAZI and IRS scandal twins? But rather than keep their promise to replace Obamacare with some other mechanism for providing basic health care to people, the GOP is intent on utterly destroying all hopes of poors and middle class peoples having access to things like mammograms, heart medication, and the chance for a kid with asthma to see a doctor. Because hahaha, sick people are so funny to watch struggle and die from preventable causes.

So what new ploy have conservatives come up with now? Rather than trying to actively find a solution to rising health care costs, conservatives are ACTIVELY TRYING TO INCREASE THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. You’re welcome, America. According to Bloomberg (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2013-05-28/health-law-critics-seek-to-gut-it-by-attacking-exchanges.html):


Rather than focusing on repealing the law in Congress and the courts, two avenues that have failed so far, the groups are aiming to prevent the cornerstone of the legislation, the insurance exchanges, from succeeding. Their goal is to limit enrollments, drive up costs, and make it easier to roll back all or part of the law later.



Who cares that access to health care in Massachusetts (http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/gov/newsroom/press-releases/dph/report-showing-all-time-high-in-life-expectancy-releas.html) led to reductions in leading causes of death, including heart disease, stroke, and cancer? What is important is the PRINCIPLE of completely rejecting everything that Obama touches, because he is teh worst president in the history of the universe because we said so, amen.
Heritage and other Tea Party groups are focusing their efforts in 20 states, hoping that they can discourage enough people from getting health insurance that costs skyrocket and it will be easier to repeal ObamaCare.


http://wonkette.com/517994/heritage-foundation-will-sacrifice-its-own-son-obamacare-to-appease-angry-god

[Mainecoons]

Who cares that MassCare has resulted in the state having the highest health care premiums in America? Who cares that the subsidies for it are sinking the state budget?

Who cares if one of our most retarded continues to confuse the Heritage Foundation ideas with ObamaCare?

[Cigar]

Looks like they found a new Tag -Line ...

What are they going to say 23 weeks from now?

Ain't it Benghazi Time ...

[Mainecoons]

Here you go geniuses:


Like it or don’t like it, this idea, currently known as Romneycare, was the brainchild of Conservatism. Of personal responsibility. In 2006, long before Barack Obama had even thrown his hat into the presidential ring, the Massachusetts answer was “clearly consistent with conservative values” in its requiring recipients of healthcare to pay for a service that they would otherwise have received for free — rather, on the backs of Massachusetts taxpayers. Newt Gingrich supported its “tremendous potential” and “real solutions” — Gingrinchian praise for “creating a sustainable health system” in Massachusetts. But that is not the most significant aspect of this Romneycare vs. Obamacare battle: Newt’s praise and Conservative origins.
The most significant aspect of this war of words stems from a common logical fallacy known as post hoc ergo propter hoc, which suggests that if event O follows event R, event R must have caused event O. In the present case, event R would be Romneycare and event O would be Obamacare. Romneycare, they say, brought about Obamacare. Or, said another way, Obamacare came from Romneycare (first fallacy), so it must be just like Romneycare (second fallacy).

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/02/15/obamacare-vs-romneycare-a-cruc/print

Not that I think you two know nothings will read this but for the rest of you, this is a carefully written and thought out reference proving just how stupid Nic's chant about the Heritage Foundation and ObamaCare really is.

[nic34]

Here you go geniuses:



http://spectator.org/archives/2012/02/15/obamacare-vs-romneycare-a-cruc/print

Not that I think you two know nothings will read this but for the rest of you, this is a carefully written and thought out reference proving just how stupid Nic's chant about the Heritage Foundation and ObamaCare really is.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

First "genius", I didn't write the "chant" so it's not "nic's".

Second, read the OP, it's not about a comparison, but the right's obsession with killing something they can't kill, DESPITE some of the provisions that are drawn from Romneycare.

Third, access to healthcare in Mass. led to reductions in leading causes of death, including heart disease, stroke, and cancer. Or is that less important that the friggin taxes for subsidies you pay? Oh, excuse me you don't live there....

[Mainecoons]

Nic, you are trying to sell the idea that ObamaCare is what Heritage conceptualized. IT IS NOT AND YOU ARE FOS TO PRETEND OTHERWISE.

RomneyCare is what Heritage conceptualized.

Carry on genius. And since you're a Cree Indian, don't forget to read my tag line.

:grin:

[patrickt]

Conservatives wanted to reform health care. Liberals wanted a government takeover of health care. Two different agendas. One wants improve health care for Americans and the other wants more power, absolute power.

[nic34]

And since you're a Cree Indian, don't forget to read my tag line.



DEE tell you that or is that something else you pulled out of your a** because you clearly lost the argument here?

[Chris]

First "genius", I didn't write the "chant" so it's not "nic's".

Second, read the OP, it's not about a comparison, but the right's obsession with killing something they can't kill, DESPITE some of the provisions that are drawn from Romneycare.

Third, access to healthcare in Mass. led to reductions in leading causes of death, including heart disease, stroke, and cancer. Or is that less important that the friggin taxes for subsidies you pay? Oh, excuse me you don't live there....

Looked to me like a hypocrisy troll about how the right, in the name of Heritage, came up with something like Obamacare and now want to abandon it.

Here's the thing, they've come to realize it was a lousy idea and are willing to admit it and correct themselves.

When can we expect anything like that from liberal progressives?

[nic34]

Looked to me like a hypocrisy troll about how the right, in the name of Heritage, came up with something like Obamacare and now want to abandon it.

Here's the thing, they've come to realize it was a lousy idea and are willing to admit it and correct themselves.

When can we expect anything like that from liberal progressives?

Most "liberal progressives" supported single payer and HR676. But I don't think many would give up the few gains achieved up to this point, at least not until something better is adopted like what Vermont is doing.
http://hcr.vermont.gov/

It will come about at the state level as it did in Canada....

[Peter1469]

Most "liberal progressives" supported single payer and HR676. But I don't think many would give up the few gains achieved up to this point, at least not until something better is adopted like what Vermont is doing.
http://hcr.vermont.gov/

It will come about at the state level as it did in Canada....

I have no problem keeping it at the state level.

[Chris]

Most "liberal progressives" supported single payer and HR676. But I don't think many would give up the few gains achieved up to this point, at least not until something better is adopted like what Vermont is doing.
http://hcr.vermont.gov/

It will come about at the state level as it did in Canada....



They supported it? Start at this point in response to blad saying the same: http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/17384-Obamacare-Only-Enriches-Insurance-Providers-says-Forbes?p=388456&viewfull=1#post388456

[nic34]

GA says dems "could have easily passed single-payer." I don't think so....

Not when you need 60 votes (thx to republican filibuster threats) to pass anything, and when you have 3 or 4 blue dog dems nixing the idea....

The whole thing stinks of corporate manipulation.... but most of us will take what we can get warts and all for now.

[Mainecoons]

I have no problem keeping it at the state level.

Me neither.