Obamacare website Cost $634 Million

[GrassrootsConservative]

And faces months of glitches:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-website-millions-glitches/2013/10/10/id/530382


Healthcare.gov (http://healthcare.gov/), the federal Obamacare website, cost taxpayers more than $630 million, nearly seven times its original estimate of $93 million, new figures reveal (http://usaspending.gov/explore?tab=By+Prime+Awardee&fiscal_year=all&idvpiid=HHSM500200700015I&typeofview=detailsummary).

Yet it will likely take months to get it running properly following its disastrous rollout last week, when those hoping to enroll (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-website-millions-glitches/2013/10/10/id/530382#) instead experienced an online nightmare, with websites crashing, refusing to load, and failing to offer comprehensive choices.

"It’s like trying to repair a car while someone is driving it," George Edwards, a computer scientist and professor at the University of Southern California, told Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/10/10/glitch-filled-launch-obamacare-site-decried-as-train-wreck/).

The administration has tried to explain away the problems as a result of heavy traffic.

"Take away the volume and it works," President Barack Obama's chief technology adviser, Todd Park, told USA Today.
(http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/05/health-care-website-repairs/2927597/)But technical experts say the problems are inherent to the design of the website itself.

"I was trying to use it as a consumer … and I could see the Javascript errors," James Turner of software company Beeonics told Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/10/09/3-million-obamacare-website-may-face-months-glitches-experts-warn/), referring to the code that activates within the browser.

"I've been a software developer for 33 years now," he said. "After a while when something is not working right, you just kind of know the reasons why things are failing. It looks like the user interface was something that was tested least, or not done right, or both."

Turner said he tried to compare insurance prices several times and in four different browsers, but without any luck.

Tens of thousands of people who have tried to register (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-website-millions-glitches/2013/10/10/id/530382#) since the website went online Oct. 1 have been blocked from enrolling and asked to reset their passwords, reports CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57606633/obamacare-website-looks-like-nobody-tested-it-programmer-says/).

In the meantime, the costs are mounting.

Noting that the actual cost of the website appears to have been "$634,320,919, Andrew Couts of digitaltrends said (http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion/obamacare-healthcare-gov-website-cost/), "We, the taxpayers, seem to have forked up more than $634 million of the federal purse to build the digital equivalent of a rock."



Read the whole article at the link.

[midcan5]

I'm sure you're only stating this number to show how cheap it is to provide healthcare for your fellow Americans. And do I recall you complaining about the waste noted below? Do you? I forget.

"How far off were they? Well, it depends on which figure you choose to start with. Here’s the range: According to key officials in the Bush administration back in 2002-2003, the invasion and reconstruction of Iraq was either going to cost $60 billion, or $100-$200 billion. Actually, we can start by tossing that top figure out, since not long after Bush economic advisor Larry Lindsey offered it in 2002, he was shown the door, in part assumedly for even suggesting something so ludicrous.


Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz championed the $60 billion figure, but added that much of the cost might well be covered by Iraqi oil revenues; the country was, after all, floating on a “sea of oil.” (“To assume we’re going to pay for it all is just wrong,” he told a congressional hearing.) Still, let’s take that $60 billion figure as the Bush baseline. If economists Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes are right in their recent calculations and this will turn out to be more than a $3 trillion war (or even a $5-7 trillion one), then the Bush administration was at least $2,940,000,000,000 off in its calculations." http://bombs.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/cost-of-iraq-war/

[GrassrootsConservative]

You're on ignore, midcan5, but I decided to hit the "view post" button anyway and start reading.

I stopped when I saw "Bush." Bush had many problems, but he is not the president anymore.

Obama is, and we need to sack him before he gets the chance to waste any more money.

No distraction of yours will change that.

/Edit: And yes, Bush the RINO who was actually a Liberal had the same problems with waste as every other Liberal does.

[Alyosha]

I'm sure you're only stating this number to show how cheap it is to provide healthcare for your fellow Americans. And do I recall you complaining about the waste noted below? Do you? I forget.

Anyone who pays taxes above 33% remembers everything and those who are engaged in the world they live in, midcan5, in any sincere way will be nonpartisan about it. **cough cough**

Our military budget is larger than all the other countries of the world combined. We can save us all an enormous amount on our tax check every year if we simply trim that by a hundred or more billion and still be about even with the rest of the world.




"How far off were they? Well, it depends on which figure you choose to start with. Here’s the range: According to key officials in the Bush administration back in 2002-2003, the invasion and reconstruction of Iraq was either going to cost $60 billion, or $100-$200 billion. Actually, we can start by tossing that top figure out, since not long after Bush economic advisor Larry Lindsey offered it in 2002, he was shown the door, in part assumedly for even suggesting something so ludicrous.


^^Do you know what a logical fallacy is?

I'll explain what you did there, because I'm not certain if you realize that you did it or if it were on purpose to obfuscate the discussion. You may in fact dislike waste and fraud whichever party does it.

--shocker--

Yes, it is true, you can hate both Bush and Obama for wasting our money and leading us into wars and shitting on the Constitution. That is, in fact, the intellectual and moral thing to do.

Or, you can continue on the same path and declare yourself a political dinosaur.

[Matty]

634 million? and like everything else democrats do it's a complete utter disaster. sheesh.

[Cigar]

Months of Glitches?

Good thing they have 23 Weeks :grin: ... and the Federal Government is NOT the only way to Register for ObamaCare.

Just ask the 7000 people who registered in Virginia.

[hanger4]

Just ask the 7000 people who registered in Virginia.


You got a link for that #

just curious.

[Cigar]

You got a link for that #

just curious.

Nope ... I just heard Republican Joe Scarborough say it.

It doesn't matter to me if you believe it or not.

Belief isn't in your DNA

[Alyosha]

They signed them up at Health Fairs in VA Beach and then added them back end to VA's database. If you want to do that for everyone it may work quicker than online.

[Cigar]

They signed them up at Health Fairs in VA Beach and then added them back end to VA's database. If you want to do that for everyone it may work quicker than online.



http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/10/report-a-mere-51000-people-signed-up-on-obamacare-site-in-first-week/

I also heard that the CEO in charge of the Website said that it was designed for up to 50k simultaneous hits. In the first week The ObamaCare Website was getting over 250k simultaneous hits.

As you can see...250k simultaneous hits shows ObamaCare isn't popular at all. :grin:

[Matty]

You got a link for that #

just curious.



yeah, it's called propaganda nation over at msnbc. roflmao.

[Ransom]

Months of Glitches?

Good thing they have 23 Weeks :grin: ... and the Federal Government is NOT the only way to Register for ObamaCare.

Just ask the 7000 people who registered in Virginia.


You being the businessman, you understand as well this would be tolerated in the private sector, huh? If your business/corporation/organization/union/ had this much time to roll out and couldn't even give its' shareholders/members/owners a number concerning how many had or hadn't signed up....it would be excused and/or tolerated, huh Cigar?

Someone with a straight face trying to explain.."good thing there is more than one way" or "glitches"......that wouldn't be seen as ridiculous...huh?

It's why I question your bragging and claims.....you seem to be unable to understand that this roll out of Obamacare should it be any private endeavor....would be toast.

It's why I made it clear to you I was joking when I called you a stock market guru...and you got all upset.....I actually don't think yer even guru level, any endeavor in the private real world that is this much of a joke.....it goes out of business. You and I Cigar....few of those who understand this was never designed to work....merely a step towards single payer. The rest of these poor souls signing up(or trying to sign up...or not) for plans that have scorching high deductibles.....hook line and f'n sinker.

[Mainecoons]

You being the businessman, you understand as well this would be tolerated in the private sector, huh? If your business/corporation/organization/union/ had this much time to roll out and couldn't even give its' shareholders/members/owners a number concerning how many had or hadn't signed up....it would be excused and/or tolerated, huh Cigar?

No, he'd just hide behind affirmative action.

Do you think a real businessman would spend his days posting tripe on an internet message board?

[Contrails]

And faces months of glitches:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-website-millions-glitches/2013/10/10/id/530382

Read the whole article at the link.
More sloppy reporting from the conservative press. Would someone please teach them how to fact check?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/10/rumor-check-obamacare-website-might-be-glitchy-but-it-didnt-cost-634-million/

[Ransom]

The number isn't incorrect. It wasn't merely to put software together and build servers. It was the facilitation of such an endeavor via the internet by an entity(our federal gov't) with a history of inept, corrupt, inefficient, indebted, bankrupt, politically poisoned, or flat out incompetent.

It's a distraction argument....and pennies in comparison to the accounting book shuffles the Admin did before this all rolled out. The sloppy reporting....by our entire media continues.....observations here rather than objective...are politically motivated as well. The games continue.

[Grokmaster]

And faces months of glitches:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-website-millions-glitches/2013/10/10/id/530382



Read the whole article at the link.

That's what happens when MERIT falls below Social Engineering/Cronyism, when awarding government contracts.