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Ravi
10-17-2013, 07:41 AM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/house-stenographer-shouts-about-conspiracies.html

"This is not one nation under God. It never was. Had it been, it would not have been – no – it would not have been – the Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons! They go against God. You cannot serve two masters. You cannot serve two masters. Praise Jesus [recording unclear]. Lord Jesus Christ!"

Cigar
10-17-2013, 07:44 AM
Message from God
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d112/ShoalsArtGallery/MessagefromGod_zps04c6730f.jpg

Chris
10-17-2013, 07:48 AM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/10/house-stenographer-shouts-about-conspiracies.html

"This is not one nation under God. It never was. Had it been, it would not have been – no – it would not have been – the Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons! They go against God. You cannot serve two masters. You cannot serve two masters. Praise Jesus [recording unclear]. Lord Jesus Christ!"



So now you're citing a House Stenographer?

I would guess the second master she refers to is the State, the religion statism.

http://i.snag.gy/KPJlh.jpg

Ravi
10-17-2013, 07:49 AM
So now you're citing a House Stenographer?

Try to make sense for a change.

keymanjim
10-17-2013, 07:50 AM
Try to make sense for a change.
He did, dimwit.

Chris
10-17-2013, 07:52 AM
Try to make sense for a change.

What, didn't you even read your link? The title is "House Stenographer Shouts About Conspiracies As Shutdown Bill Passes." Fail.



Here's the video at your link:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7qtDRwGK5c&feature=player_embedded#t=0

Cigar
10-17-2013, 07:53 AM
They're pride is wounded ... let them babble and blow bubbles in their Cornflakes :laugh:

Ravi
10-17-2013, 07:53 AM
What, didn't you even read your link? The title is "House Stenographer Shouts About Conspiracies As Shutdown Bill Passes." Fail.

Did you read my thread title? My goodness you seem bitter and delusional this morning. Have a cookie. And quit trolling my thread.

keymanjim
10-17-2013, 07:55 AM
They're
They are?

Chris
10-17-2013, 07:57 AM
Did you read my thread title? My goodness you seem bitter and delusional this morning. Have a cookie. And quit trolling my thread.

Aw, now I've upset ravi, so as expected, since she cannot argue, she turns to making things up and trolls her own thread.

It was a House stenographer. Why that doesn't make sense to you is beyond me. But, please, don't blame me for your inabilities to make sense of what you report.

hanger4
10-17-2013, 08:11 AM
Did you read my thread title? My goodness you seem bitter and delusional this morning. Have a cookie. And quit trolling my thread.

Since your thread title doesn't match

your link, which is irrelevant;

Your tread title ??

Your link ??

or you ??

Ravi
10-17-2013, 08:12 AM
Since your thread title doesn't match

your link, which is irrelevant;

Your tread title ??

Your link ??

or you ??
You can whine as you please. It was a very fitting end to the republican freakshow.

Cigar
10-17-2013, 08:13 AM
They are?

:grin:

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/there-are-so-many-grammar-nazis-on-the-internet-because.jpg

Chris
10-17-2013, 08:14 AM
You can whine as you please. It was a very fitting end to the republican freakshow.

No one's whining but you, ravi, stop projecting your emotions onto others.

Also, it was a freakshow of our government, Reps and Dems, Congress and WH.

Open your partisan eyes.

junie
10-18-2013, 08:43 AM
Fox's Greta Van Susteren posted the email from Reidy on her Gretawire blog (http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2013/10/17/this-is-what-happened-click-to-read/):


“For the past 2 and 1/2 weeks, the Holy Spirit has been waking me up in the middle of the night and preparing me (through my reluctance and doubt) to deliver a message in the House Chamber. That is what I did last night”


Earlier Thursday, Reidy's husband Dan spoke to the New York Post (http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/shutdown-hours-made-stenographer-snap-husband/) about the incident, telling the paper his wife had been losing sleep since the shutdown began on October 1.

“Two weeks, waking up in the middle of the night. She’s like, I can’t sleep, God’s got me in the work,” he said. "God was preparing her for this vote last night, because this was kind of the culmination of everything."


Dan Reidy, who described himself to the Post as a Pentecostal Christian, said his wife was taken to a hospital and was evaluated by a psychologist before her release.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/17/house-stenographer_n_4119039.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl3|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D393006

junie
10-18-2013, 08:47 AM
A shouting stenographer was removed from the House floor (http://c-spanvideo.org/clip/4469231) as lawmakers voted on a deal to reopen the government and avoid a debt crisis.


The stenographer began shouting (https://soundcloud.com/toddzwillich-1/floor1-101612-wav)as the the House approved the number of votes needed to pass the bill. According to reporters, she was yelling about God and Freemasons.

See a video of the incident here (http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4469223).


And listen to audio of the incident below, from Public Radio International:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/stenographer-shouting-on-house-floor_n_4112145.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/stenographer-shouting-on-house-floor_n_4112145.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular)

Chris
10-18-2013, 08:48 AM
Uh, we already have the story, junie.

Ravi
10-18-2013, 08:50 AM
I never really understand why people think God gives a fuck about politics.

Chris
10-18-2013, 08:52 AM
I never really understand why people think God gives a fuck about politics.

I've never understood why some people thing being vulgar and crass is impressive.

Ravi
10-18-2013, 09:01 AM
I've never understood why some people thing being vulgar and crass is impressive.You need to ask yourself that question.

junie
10-18-2013, 09:02 AM
You need to ask yourself that question.



baby jesus would forgive you. :wink:

Chris
10-18-2013, 09:03 AM
You need to ask yourself that question.

I don't use vulgar crass words like you did. What do you have against God anyhow?

junie
10-18-2013, 09:06 AM
i wonder what she meant by invoking God in that context. :dontknow:




As the House of Representatives voted Wednesday night to reopen the federal government and lift the debt ceiling, stenographer Dianne Reidy caused a stir by shouting (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/stenographer-shouting-on-house-floor_n_4112145.html) about God and Freemasons as she was forcibly removed from the floor.

“The House is divided," she yelled. “This is not one nation under God — it never was!”

Ravi
10-18-2013, 09:16 AM
i wonder what she meant by invoking God in that context. :dontknow:




As the House of Representatives voted Wednesday night to reopen the federal government and lift the debt ceiling, stenographer Dianne Reidy caused a stir by shouting (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/stenographer-shouting-on-house-floor_n_4112145.html) about God and Freemasons as she was forcibly removed from the floor.

“The House is divided," she yelled. “This is not one nation under God — it never was!”

I don't know but it is bound to drum up interest in freemasons.

junie
10-18-2013, 09:20 AM
I don't know but it is bound to drum up interest in freemasons.



lol i have actually been hearing ads on the radio lately encouraging people to look into becoming freemasons...

Ravi
10-18-2013, 09:21 AM
lol i have actually been hearing ads on the radio lately encouraging people to look into becoming freemasons...

They can give the illuminati a run for their money :)

Chris
10-18-2013, 09:28 AM
i wonder what she meant by invoking God in that context. :dontknow:




As the House of Representatives voted Wednesday night to reopen the federal government and lift the debt ceiling, stenographer Dianne Reidy caused a stir by shouting (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/stenographer-shouting-on-house-floor_n_4112145.html) about God and Freemasons as she was forcibly removed from the floor.

“The House is divided," she yelled. “This is not one nation under God — it never was!”




You're so good at pasting other people's words, here she is explaining in her own words for you to paste it too: Long hours made stenographer snap (http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/shutdown-hours-made-stenographer-snap-husband/).

Ravi
10-18-2013, 09:34 AM
You're so good at pasting other people's words, here she is explaining in her own words for you to paste it too: Long hours made stenographer snap (http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/shutdown-hours-made-stenographer-snap-husband/).

Was there some point you were trying to make with this post?

Chris
10-18-2013, 09:37 AM
Was there some point you were trying to make with this post?

Sorry it went over your pointy head, yes, the point it, if you want to know why she did it go to the source, rather than partisan interpretations of it. Clear now?

Ravi
10-18-2013, 10:00 AM
Sorry it went over your pointy head, yes, the point it, if you want to know why she did it go to the source, rather than partisan interpretations of it. Clear now?
You mean what her husband used as her excuse? I have no idea why she did it. She sounds unstable and I hope she gets some help. That is just my opinion, of course.

What's up with the nastiness, chrissie?

Chris
10-18-2013, 10:08 AM
You mean what her husband used as her excuse? I have no idea why she did it. She sounds unstable and I hope she gets some help. That is just my opinion, of course.

What's up with the nastiness, chrissie?



Do try and read the link, raving.

And the question is why are you and junie being so nasty, so snarky toward someone you don't know?

junie
10-18-2013, 10:09 AM
Reidy's husband, Dan, attributed her outburst to a lack of sleep during the hectic negotiations in the legislature.

He told The New York Post (http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/shutdown-hours-made-stenographer-snap-husband/), "God was preparing her for this vote last night, because this was kind of the culmination of everything …

This was the big one. Everybody’s there. And Dianne didn’t know what she was sharing, she didn’t know when — but she just sensed in her spirit."


Reidy herself said that, "I’m glad that I fulfilled God’s mission for me, absolutely. It lifted a tremendous burden."

Despite working in the House chamber for eight years, she said that the "toxic" events of the past few weeks have disillusioned her about the political process.

Her husband has denied that she drinks, smokes or is on any medication.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/10/house-stenographer-explains-last-nights-outburst/70672/

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 10:10 AM
Woah! This is a political forum? I think someone lied to me.

Ravi
10-18-2013, 10:14 AM
Reidy's husband, Dan, attributed her outburst to a lack of sleep during the hectic negotiations in the legislature.

He told The New York Post (http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/shutdown-hours-made-stenographer-snap-husband/), "God was preparing her for this vote last night, because this was kind of the culmination of everything …

This was the big one. Everybody’s there. And Dianne didn’t know what she was sharing, she didn’t know when — but she just sensed in her spirit."


Reidy herself said that, "I’m glad that I fulfilled God’s mission for me, absolutely. It lifted a tremendous burden."

Despite working in the House chamber for eight years, she said that the "toxic" events of the past few weeks have disillusioned her about the political process.

Her husband has denied that she drinks, smokes or is on any medication.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/10/house-stenographer-explains-last-nights-outburst/70672/

I wonder if she'll get to keep her job. I would advise against it. People that claim that God told them to act out are usually not in a rational state.

junie
10-18-2013, 10:19 AM
I wonder if she'll get to keep her job. I would advise against it. People that claim that God told them to act out are usually not in a rational state.



probably a prerequisite for the job to have self control in the house chamber, but she got her fifteen minutes anyway...



House Stenographer Loses her Job…http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/10/house-stenographer-loses-her-job-2735358.html

Chris
10-18-2013, 10:19 AM
Woah! This is a political forum? I think someone lied to me.



Dominated by partisans, it's been going downhill from what it used to be.

junie
10-18-2013, 10:24 AM
The stenographer began shouting about God and the Freemasons as the vote took place.

"He will not be mocked. He will not be mocked. Don't touch me. He will not be mocked," the stenographer shouted as she was taken away by U.S. Capitol Police. "The greatest deception here is not 'one nation under God.' It never was. Had it been, it would not have been."


She continued, "The Constitution would not have been written by Freemasons. They go against God."


She went on, "You cannot serve two masters. Praise be to God, Lord Jesus Christ."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/16/house-stenographer-shutdown-vote/2998607/

junie
10-18-2013, 10:41 AM
I wonder if she'll get to keep her job. I would advise against it.

People that claim that God told them to act out are usually not in a rational state.



maybe you should start a thread "the psychology of.. (the tea party...republicans...the religious right)" ???



http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/17751-The-Psychology-of-Barack-Obama?p=397214&viewfull=1#post397214

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 10:44 AM
maybe you should start a thread "the psychology of.. (the tea party...republicans...the religious right)" ???

Why? Do you find making fun of other people a positive way to use your time on a political forum? I joined hoping to engage people in a positive manner in regards to what I believe, not to do harm to other people.

junie
10-18-2013, 10:47 AM
are you making fun of me? :laugh:

Chris
10-18-2013, 10:49 AM
Why? Do you find making fun of other people a positive way to use your time on a political forum? I joined hoping to engage people in a positive manner in regards to what I believe, not to do harm to other people.

It's insecurity. There are some good discussions around, just need to wade through this sort of mean-spirited crapola.

junie
10-18-2013, 10:51 AM
The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/16/house-stenographer-freaks-out-on-house-floor-during-debt-deal-vote-video/) has a bit more of Reidy’s rant:


Castro told a group of reporters Reidy had “kind of crazed look, quite frankly. It was very disturbing for members of Congress.”


“The microphone was off,” Castro said, so no one could hear what she was saying.


Reporters standing outside the chamber saw the doors burst open as people physically pushed her out of the chamber as she resisted and toward an elevator.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/17/video-house-stenographer-freaks-out-on-house-floor/

junie
10-18-2013, 10:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofAIguTXWJE

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 10:53 AM
are you making fun of me? :laugh:

No. I just find it sad that a group of obviously intelligent people with more things in common, if we were to peel away the curtain, than not choose to waste precious time by being unkind.

We could all be sharing those things we agree on, even if uncomfortable to admit and thus in this exposure reveal areas where we could work together productively.

People who post in political forums are generally "active" people. Why not use this place to facilitate a positive change and be the change we wish to make in the world?

junie
10-18-2013, 10:59 AM
if you aren't interested in what this woman said in the house chamber and why, then why are you wasting time in this thread?

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 11:06 AM
if you aren't interested in what this woman said in the house chamber and why, then why are you wasting time in this thread?

Who said that I am not? I find it interesting that someone who sits with them daily calls them sons of the devil. I would think that rather than ridicule and mock her for her lunacy, perhaps we consider that she has had to listen to whorish compromise and lobby-induced legislation that has produced such cruelty and death, both here and abroad. Each day she is unable to turn away from the evil.

I'm surprised she did not snap earlier.

This still does not refute my point that within two hours I've managed to notice just how many people on here are quick to dimiss and even mock others without using an ounce of their own goodness for the purpose of human empathy.

junie
10-18-2013, 11:11 AM
except i did not ridicule or mock her... your surprise that she hadn't snapped earlier sounds like a personal projection, no offense. :wink:

Ravi
10-18-2013, 11:26 AM
maybe you should start a thread "the psychology of.. (the tea party...republicans...the religious right)" ???



http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/17751-The-Psychology-of-Barack-Obama?p=397214&viewfull=1#post397214How about "the psychology of the tea partiers that claim there are no tea party politicians"

Ravi
10-18-2013, 11:29 AM
Who said that I am not? I find it interesting that someone who sits with them daily calls them sons of the devil. I would think that rather than ridicule and mock her for her lunacy, perhaps we consider that she has had to listen to whorish compromise and lobby-induced legislation that has produced such cruelty and death, both here and abroad. Each day she is unable to turn away from the evil.

I'm surprised she did not snap earlier.

This still does not refute my point that within two hours I've managed to notice just how many people on here are quick to dimiss and even mock others without using an ounce of their own goodness for the purpose of human empathy.

You are both making faulty inferences and calling this woman a lunatic. Hello?

Chris
10-18-2013, 11:35 AM
How about "the psychology of the tea partiers that claim there are no tea party politicians"

How about the psychology of partisans who make things like that up?

patrickt
10-18-2013, 11:37 AM
Ravi, short for Raving, has a lot in common with the House stenographer.

But, it was a fitting end for the left-wing slowdown of government. They slowed to get a run at unlimited spending, unlimited debt, unlimited tax increases, and a very limited future for America.

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 12:03 PM
except i did not ridicule or mock her... your surprise that she hadn't snapped earlier sounds like a personal projection, no offense. :wink:
junie

You should take your own advice about projections and apply it to your own posts. I never said that you mocked her, thus singling you out. I stated what "we" should not do to her, from my perspective, which is to ridicule and mock someone who must sit and listen daily to the types of compromise that allows evil to run amok.

I own my feelings and it is my feeling that it is evil to label women and children collateral damage in our hellfire missile strikes meant to kill two alleged terrorists hiding in the village. The very fact that we've named them "hellfire" should tell us all something. It is evil to propose a solution as being beneficial to the poor, selling it to Americans, when we know in all reality it will not help as many people as we pretend it will. It is evil to support the bailout of Wall Street fraudsters whose greed and avarice robbed Americans of their savings and livelihoods. It is evil to support the bailout of BP whose cheap infrastructure created one of the worst oil spills in history.

What they do is evil. There is no other words to describe it, only soften it with perfidious phrases such as "lesser of".

I am surprised she kept her sanity that long.

Cigar
10-18-2013, 12:16 PM
Ravi, short for Raving, has a lot in common with the House stenographer.

But, it was a fitting end for the left-wing slowdown of government. They slowed to get a run at unlimited spending, unlimited debt, unlimited tax increases, and a very limited future for America.

So how's that Slowdown working out 4-yea :wink:

Ravi
10-18-2013, 12:18 PM
So how's that Slowdown working out 4-yea :wink:
hahahaha! I think FOX called it a slimdown.

junie
10-18-2013, 12:21 PM
Who said that I am not? I find it interesting that someone who sits with them daily calls them sons of the devil. I would think that rather than ridicule and mock her for her lunacy, perhaps we consider that she has had to listen to whorish compromise and lobby-induced legislation that has produced such cruelty and death, both here and abroad. Each day she is unable to turn away from the evil.

I'm surprised she did not snap earlier.

This still does not refute my point that within two hours I've managed to notice just how many people on here are quick to dimiss and even mock others without using an ounce of their own goodness for the purpose of human empathy.




You are both making faulty inferences and calling this woman a lunatic. Hello?



did she call them 'sons of the devil'? tsk tsk that's not very nice...


i missed that quote but find it kind of funny how these guys are less offended by her unruly outburst, which disrupted the house chamber and demonized our congress..you know, those people who we actually elected to speak for us in that forum...but would rather act as if this precious discussion forum has been somehow disrupted by virtue of our merely posting and discussing her offensive comments in full context...oh my isn't it so sad how she 'dismissed and even mocked them without using an ounce of her own goodness for the purpose of human empathy'..? :cry:

Ravi
10-18-2013, 12:59 PM
did she call them 'sons of the devil'? tsk tsk that's not very nice...


i missed that quote but find it kind of funny how these guys are less offended by her unruly outburst, which disrupted the house chamber and demonized our congress..you know, those people who we actually elected to speak for us in that forum...but would rather act as if this precious discussion forum has been somehow disrupted by virtue of our merely posting and discussing her offensive comments in full context...oh my isn't it so sad how she 'dismissed and even mocked them without using an ounce of her own goodness for the purpose of human empathy'..? :cry:
Well, you know kid, teh evil! teh evil!

junie
10-18-2013, 01:03 PM
It's insecurity. There are some good discussions around, just need to wade through this sort of mean-spirited crapola.



funny who all the mean spirited posts actually came from vs your delusional perception of same... :loco:



He did, dimwit.




What, didn't you even read your link?


Fail.










No one's whining but you, ravi, stop projecting your emotions onto others.


Open your partisan eyes.



Uh, we already have the story, junie.


What do you have against God anyhow?


You're so good at pasting other people's words, here she is explaining in her own words for you to paste it too: Long hours made stenographer snap (http://nypost.com/2013/10/17/shutdown-hours-made-stenographer-snap-husband/).


Sorry it went over your pointy head, yes, the point it, if you want to know why she did it go to the source, rather than partisan interpretations of it. Clear now?


Do try and read the link, raving.

And the question is why are you and junie being so nasty, so snarky toward someone you don't know?



Woah! This is a political forum? I think someone lied to me.


Dominated by partisans, it's been going downhill from what it used to be.


Why? Do you find making fun of other people a positive way to use your time on a political forum? I joined hoping to engage people in a positive manner in regards to what I believe, not to do harm to other people.


How about the psychology of partisans who make things like that up?



This still does not refute my point that within two hours I've managed to notice just how many people on here are quick to dimiss and even mock others without using an ounce of their own goodness for the purpose of human empathy.


Ravi, short for Raving, has a lot in common with the House stenographer.

junie
10-18-2013, 01:03 PM
Well, you know kid, teh evil! teh evil!


lol mon dieu!


i took chris off ignore for a sec and saw all his nonsensical mean spirited posts... remind me never to do that again! :laugh:

Ravi
10-18-2013, 01:05 PM
lol mon dieu!


i took chris off ignore for a sec and saw all his nonsensical mean spirited posts... remind me never to do that again! :laugh:

I go back and forth with it. Sometimes it is quite a hoot to watch him post nasty thing after nasty thing and then act the hypocrite pretending he doesn't actually do it. That and his middle school tendency to get people to not like me. bwahahahahahahahaha

junie
10-18-2013, 01:12 PM
I go back and forth with it. Sometimes it is quite a hoot to watch him post nasty thing after nasty thing and then act the hypocrite pretending he doesn't actually do it. That and his middle school tendency to get people to not like me. bwahahahahahahahaha



lol you have to laugh* ...little do they know how kind and precious you truly are! :wink:

jillian
10-18-2013, 01:23 PM
I go back and forth with it. Sometimes it is quite a hoot to watch him post nasty thing after nasty thing and then act the hypocrite pretending he doesn't actually do it. That and his middle school tendency to get people to not like me. bwahahahahahahahaha


yes, it's cute to watch him whine that everyone is nasty but for him... when he's the one running around spewing ad homs.

maybe he's confused.

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 01:43 PM
did she call them 'sons of the devil'? tsk tsk that's not very nice...


i missed that quote but find it kind of funny how these guys are less offended by her unruly outburst, which disrupted the house chamber and demonized our congress..you know, those people who we actually elected to speak for us in that forum...but would rather act as if this precious discussion forum has been somehow disrupted by virtue of our merely posting and discussing her offensive comments in full context...oh my isn't it so sad how she 'dismissed and even mocked them without using an ounce of her own goodness for the purpose of human empathy'..? :cry:

Why should we show empathy for evil acts? We show empathy for people. Do you mean "apathy"? If so, I agree there is a lot of apathy towards the evils of government and not a lot of empathy for those who stand up to it.

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 01:46 PM
Well, you know kid, teh evil! teh evil!

How can you call this anything but?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZK2uRNLkhdI/T5tMKmqqscI/AAAAAAAAEWQ/m0a8ZyXmNqc/s320/OBAMA+4.jpg


If that were your child lying dead on the ground, I assure you that you would find those people who voted for it and ordered it to be "evil". It would not be "collateral damage" to you.

So jest all you will about "teh evil", but I don't find this remotely funny so I'll choose not to laugh along with you.

nic34
10-18-2013, 01:49 PM
Freeze, whay are you conflating our military exploits with a health care law?

Ravi
10-18-2013, 01:50 PM
How can you call this anything but?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZK2uRNLkhdI/T5tMKmqqscI/AAAAAAAAEWQ/m0a8ZyXmNqc/s320/OBAMA+4.jpg


If that were your child lying dead on the ground, I assure you that you would find those people who voted for it and ordered it to be "evil". It would not be "collateral damage" to you.

So jest all you will about "teh evil", but I don't find this remotely funny so I'll choose not to laugh along with you.
And I'll choose to ignore your appeal to emotion. What a sick thing to do to use that person as a prop to support your agenda.

jillian
10-18-2013, 01:52 PM
How can you call this anything but?




If that were your child lying dead on the ground, I assure you that you would find those people who voted for it and ordered it to be "evil". It would not be "collateral damage" to you.

So jest all you will about "teh evil", but I don't find this remotely funny so I'll choose not to laugh along with you.

nah... no wacky hyperbole there or anything.

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 02:57 PM
Freeze, whay are you conflating our military exploits with a health care law?

Because it is all the same. Hellfire missile purchases make the military industrial complex money. Drones make them money. Endless war makes them money. This health care reform act makes insurance companies money.

There is evil in Washington and I am not surprised that she was the one to see it up close.

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 02:58 PM
And I'll choose to ignore your appeal to emotion. What a sick thing to do to use that person as a prop to support your agenda.

I have no agenda except peace and if the hard truth hurts you then maybe you should question yourself and why you feel as you do. This is the result of your politics, not mine.

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 02:59 PM
nah... no wacky hyperbole there or anything.

No, there is no hyperbole there. If death and greed are so prevalent that to point these things out as "evil" is hyperbole then the entire system is infected with rot.

Chris
10-18-2013, 03:00 PM
funny who all the mean spirited posts actually came from vs your delusional perception of same... :loco:

How was any of that mean-spirited, junie? As compared to your personal insult calling people delusional? Hoist your own petard much?

Chris
10-18-2013, 03:02 PM
I go back and forth with it. Sometimes it is quite a hoot to watch him post nasty thing after nasty thing and then act the hypocrite pretending he doesn't actually do it. That and his middle school tendency to get people to not like me. bwahahahahahahahaha

And so ravi joins in with her usual mean-spirited, snarky, personal attacks.

Listen, I'm not your problem, ravi, you're your own worst enemy.

Chris
10-18-2013, 03:04 PM
yes, it's cute to watch him whine that everyone is nasty but for him... when he's the one running around spewing ad homs.

maybe he's confused.



And the third whining, trolling partisan jumps in making things up out of whole cloth.

Alyosha
10-18-2013, 03:07 PM
Mr. Freeze

You must understand that you have made the fatal error of expecting Democrats to care about corporate influence and death during this administration.

You'll have to wait until a Republican is in office before they give a shit again. Until then, it's all hyperbole-unless you have a time machine, then they'll willingly go into the past with you to discuss what's wrong with Bush.

Just FYI...might want to wait until 2016 to try and make anyone care about dead children or United Health Care's campaign contributions.

Alyosha
10-18-2013, 03:08 PM
And I'll choose to ignore your appeal to emotion. What a sick thing to do to use that person as a prop to support your agenda.

LOL says the queen of it! You're just a piece of work, darling. Do you get paid per hypocritical post or is it a freebie?

Mr. Freeze
10-18-2013, 03:09 PM
LOL says the queen of it! You're just a piece of work, darling. Do you get paid per hypocritical post or is it a freebie?

No, Alyosha. I don't want this. Please.

Peter1469
10-18-2013, 03:16 PM
General Warning: stop with the name calling and personal attacks.

Alyosha
10-18-2013, 03:16 PM
No, @Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863). I don't want this. Please.

It is acceptable to point out evil, but not evil's enablers?

junie
10-18-2013, 03:24 PM
Why should we show empathy for evil acts? We show empathy for people. Do you mean "apathy"? If so, I agree there is a lot of apathy towards the evils of government and not a lot of empathy for those who stand up to it.


the vote session which she chose to interrupt was NOT an 'evil act' and appeals to emotion in this circumstance are misplaced...

this woman was way out-of-line and she had no empathy or respect for congress (they are people!) as she invoked God in order to demonize them.

last time i checked the ten commandments frowned upon that sort of thing...

Alyosha
10-18-2013, 03:28 PM
the vote session which she chose to interrupt was NOT an 'evil act' and appeals to emotion in this circumstance are misplaced...

this woman was way out-of-line and she had no empathy or respect for congress (they the people!) as she invoked God in order to demonize them.

last time i checked the ten commandments frowned upon that sort of thing...

I think you're missing his point which is that selling out Americans to Insurance Giants is an act of evil. If you see the same people voting to kill kids, why do you think those people would vote to save them?

They vote the way their corporate sponsors tell them to vote and anyone who believes other wise needs to also stop leaving out cookies for Santa because--psst, it's your parents.

Chris
10-18-2013, 03:28 PM
It is acceptable to point out evil, but not evil's enablers?


I would say it's sufficient to point out evil. Evil's enablers will jump to defend their evil. Let the readers decide who evil's enablers are.

Chris
10-18-2013, 03:31 PM
I think you're missing his point which is that selling out Americans to Insurance Giants is an act of evil. If you see the same people voting to kill kids, why do you think those people would vote to save them?

They vote the way their corporate sponsors tell them to vote and anyone who believes other wise needs to also stop leaving out cookies for Santa because--psst, it's your parents.



People need to rise above petty partisanship to see that though. I think many resist because they prefer the Santa-like security of government dependence.

junie
10-18-2013, 03:39 PM
I think you're missing his point which is that selling out Americans to Insurance Giants is an act of evil. If you see the same people voting to kill kids, why do you think those people would vote to save them?

They vote the way their corporate sponsors tell them to vote and anyone who believes otherwise needs to also stop leaving out cookies for Santa because--psst, it's your parents.


if you believe disorder in the house chamber orchestrated by stenographers who demonize our elected representatives is an answer to evil in the world, then maybe you should check your own delusions...

Chris
10-18-2013, 03:44 PM
if you believe disorder in the house chamber orchestrated by stenographers who demonize our elected representatives is an answer to evil in the world, then maybe you should check your own delusions...

If that's the extent of your recognition of evil, then you've got your partisan eyes closed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScGPRsHSkaE

Alyosha
10-18-2013, 03:46 PM
if you believe disorder in the house chamber orchestrated by stenographers who demonize our elected representatives is an answer to evil in the world, then maybe you should check your own delusions...

Why must you put words in other people's cyber-mouths? Are you incapable of addressing what I actually said?

Ahem.

However, you bring up an interesting point and that is "no", they deserve no respect whatsoever. They are our representatives and represent not us, but big business and this behavior has caused death of countless military service members, has caused the death of ME civilians, and will cause the destruction of the middle class.

The deserve pies in their faces and populist trials, not my respect, but hey...worship at their altar all you want. It takes all types.

junie
10-18-2013, 03:50 PM
If that's the extent of your recognition of evil, then you've got your partisan eyes closed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScGPRsHSkaE



nyuk nyuk nyuk...why don't you point to my partisan post, you evil anti-American liar, you...

Alyosha
10-18-2013, 03:52 PM
nyuk nyuk nyuk...why don't you point to my partisan post, you evil anti-American liar, you...

Did you not read what Pete the moderator said? Please refrain from personal insults after moderator's speak.

junie
10-18-2013, 04:03 PM
Did you not read what Pete the moderator said? Please refrain from personal insults after moderator's speak.


funny, that's like the house gavel trying to get the stenographer lady to refrain from being unruly...

alas what is one to do when one feels they have calling from gawd to fight teh evil.

a fitting ending indeeeeeed! :laugh:

Chris
10-18-2013, 04:17 PM
nyuk nyuk nyuk...why don't you point to my partisan post, you evil anti-American liar, you...

Everything you post. Test: Say something against Obama. Better: Say something positive about Reps.


I hate evil, love America, and never lie.


The problem with personal insults like yours, junie, is they tell us more about your fears and dislikes that anyone you choose to insult. Here, a refresher: http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/13615-Insulting?highlight=insults

Alyosha
10-18-2013, 04:24 PM
funny, that's like the house gavel trying to get the stenographer lady to refrain from being unruly...

Is it now? This isn't a private forum? I am so confused! Thanks for clarifying that it's a government system that I pay into.




alas what is one to do when one feels they have calling from gawd to fight teh evil.


Are you twelve? I'd really hate to think you're middle aged talking like a someone from Ebaums past.



a fitting ending indeeeeeed! :laugh:

I guess. ((shrugs))

Ravi
10-18-2013, 05:54 PM
It is acceptable to point out evil, but not evil's enablers?It's awesome that you've labeled me evil, a nazi, and a stalinist all in one little ball of energy. You really should stop with the over the top rhetoric. It makes you look so small. Especially after your meltdown yesterday.

Alyosha
10-18-2013, 05:57 PM
It's awesome that you've labeled me evil, a nazi, and a stalinist all in one little ball of energy. You really should stop with the over the top rhetoric. It makes you look so small. Especially after your meltdown yesterday.


Hmmm, well, I'll take you seriously about this when you call out your friends for using "negotiate with terrorists" or "could be construed as terrorism" and when you stop saying you need to hide from Tea Partiers. Until then... ((shrugs))

zelmo1234
10-18-2013, 06:00 PM
I don't use vulgar crass words like you did. What do you have against God anyhow?

He won't submit to Obama!

zelmo1234
10-18-2013, 06:08 PM
lol i have actually been hearing ads on the radio lately encouraging people to look into becoming freemasons...

While not the only way, by invitation is the easiest way to become a Mason!

Ravi
10-18-2013, 06:17 PM
Hmmm, well, I'll take you seriously about this when you call out your friends for using "negotiate with terrorists" or "could be construed as terrorism" and when you stop saying you need to hide from Tea Partiers. Until then... ((shrugs))
I see you, and what I see says you're a hypocrite.

zelmo1234
10-18-2013, 06:24 PM
LOL says the queen of it! You're just a piece of work, darling. Do you get paid per hypocritical post or is it a freebie?

I thinking of some nick names for the group! Noodles I think will be good for Ravi!

I don't feel that the deserve the acknowledgement of their real names.

zelmo1234
10-18-2013, 06:26 PM
I think you're missing his point which is that selling out Americans to Insurance Giants is an act of evil. If you see the same people voting to kill kids, why do you think those people would vote to save them?

They vote the way their corporate sponsors tell them to vote and anyone who believes other wise needs to also stop leaving out cookies for Santa because--psst, it's your parents.

WHAT! there is not a Santa????????????????????????

zelmo1234
10-18-2013, 06:27 PM
I see you, and what I see says you're a hypocrite.

I like the new hat, it suits you!

Alyosha
10-18-2013, 06:27 PM
I see you, and what I see says you're a hypocrite.

Well, when you find that I called you "evil" instead of "evil's enabler" or a Nazi or a Stalinist, as opposed to saying that you're creating language that leads in that direction then I'm sure you may have a case about me calling you names. Until then, what you're saying now is just more of your same double-standard garbage.

So, honey, think what you want. Just don't lie when you want. Then it just makes you look full of shit, and Ravi...I see you, too.

Peter1469
10-18-2013, 06:30 PM
I am going to close this thread for now. The moderators will discuss whether or not any further action is warranted.