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Libhater
10-17-2013, 01:14 PM
is Ben Carson, and here is why..............."Run Ben Run"

http://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/h/search?si=0&so=0&sc=1767&st=message&xim=1&action=paneView

jillian
10-17-2013, 01:16 PM
lolololol

yeah, the guy who said health insurance is like slavery...

that ought to work.

Cigar
10-17-2013, 01:18 PM
lolololol

yeah, the guy who said health insurance is like slavery...

that ought to work.

Well ... they're consistent ... and I'm counting on that. :laugh:

Libhater
10-17-2013, 01:35 PM
lolololol

yeah, the guy who said health insurance is like slavery...

that ought to work.

Well, obamascare is another form of slavery...is it not?

patrickt
10-17-2013, 01:38 PM
lolololol

yeah, the guy who said health insurance is like slavery...

that ought to work.

And Jillian lies again. Of course, that's no surprise.
I know Jillian can't stand links but here's one of Ben Carson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNTuIxLXAo8

Now, I want all the liberals to hold their breath until Jillian says, "I lied." Dr. Carson did not say "health insurance." That was a lie from Jillian. Dr. Carson did not say "like slavery." That's another lie from Jillian.

Of course, followers of the Glorious Leader are no more constrained by the truth than is he.

Cigar
10-17-2013, 01:41 PM
Well, obamascare is another form of slavery...is it not?

Can't be ... isn't salves suppose to be obedient?

Look like the GOP can't get the Slaves to do anything they want.

Kinda Sucks don't yea think?

momsapplepie
10-17-2013, 01:46 PM
Can't be ... isn't salves suppose to be obedient?

Look like the GOP can't get the Slaves to do anything they want.

Kinda Sucks don't yea think?

No the GOP can't get slaves, because it's only the Dummos who have slaves who blindly follow them.

Alyosha
10-17-2013, 01:47 PM
I won't vote for a non-libertarian and neither will the other millennials, so make the same Romney mistake and have fun with that.

patrickt
10-17-2013, 01:48 PM
The liberals want slaves and sharecroppers. Cigar is upset when a black man leaves the liberal plantation.

zelmo1234
10-17-2013, 01:54 PM
I won't vote for a non-libertarian and neither will the other millennials, so make the same Romney mistake and have fun with that.

While I would prefer someone like Paul, I would vote for Ben, because her is a man of character!

And while I would be concerned about some of his policies, I do believe that he would operate in the best interest of the people, and he is a small government supporter!

Plus it would be funny to see the shift in the African American vote! And then we republicans could claim the first real, non oreo black president. And have control of the race card for 8 years! :)

momsapplepie
10-17-2013, 01:57 PM
I would vote in a heartbeat for a team like Carson/Condi!

Cthulhu
10-17-2013, 02:00 PM
I won't vote for a non-libertarian and neither will the other millennials, so make the same Romney mistake and have fun with that.

My sentiments exactly. I am done voting for evil, even if it is the lesser of the two - it is still evil.

Although I would vote for me, Mr. Evil for president, kinda catchy eh?

Cthulu would be my VP selection.

patrickt
10-17-2013, 02:02 PM
A Carson/Condi team would be viciously attacked by liberals because they're all racists. That's wny Jillian and Cigar attack Carson. They hate blacks.

momsapplepie
10-17-2013, 02:07 PM
No I don't think they hate blacks, just Black republicans.

bladimz
10-17-2013, 02:16 PM
The liberals want slaves and sharecroppers. Cigar is upset when a black man leaves the liberal plantation.Both parties have their slaves, their blind followers: Let's see...One republican Massa is Fox News. Another is Rush Limbaugh. There's a bunch more obviously. And the Dems have theirs. So it's kind of stupid to call out one segment while ignoring that of the others.

Actually, after watching the clip, Carson says that ObamaCare is slavery. I wonder why he decided to analogize the ACA with slavery.

bladimz
10-17-2013, 02:28 PM
I get why some people (mostly conservatives) "hate" the ACA. That's fine with me; whatever. But i have to say that people who see no reason for healthcare reform totally have their collective head up their ass. Those people just need to be ignored; they just aren't paying attention.

So fine. Let's say that the ACA is evil, and as Carson says, and actually quotes Lenin, which i think is funny... People like Lenin are evil socialists, but are worthy of quoting? Sure. When it serves their purposes. So it's evil... wrong-headed and disastrous for our country. What's the alternative? Has anyone else offered an alternative? It would be nice if before the ACA is scrapped, someone would offer an alternative that works for the people and not for corporate interests. Let's see that. Screw the corporatists. Wait. That won't happen. Not in this country. They've had and will have the people by the gonads for ever.

jillian
10-17-2013, 02:29 PM
I get why some people (mostly conservatives) "hate" the ACA. That's fine with me; whatever. But i have to say that people who see no reason for healthcare reform totally have their collective head up their ass. Those people just need to be ignored; they just aren't paying attention.

So fine. Let's say that the ACA is evil, and as Carson says, and actually quotes Lenin, which i think is funny... People like Lenin are evil socialists, but are worthy of quoting? Sure. When it serves their purposes. So it's evil... wrong-headed and disastrous for our country. What's the alternative? Has anyone else offered an alternative? It would be nice if before the ACA is scrapped, someone would offer an alternative that works for the people and not for corporate interests. Let's see that. Screw the corporatists. Wait. That won't happen. Not in this country. They've had and will have the people by the gonads for ever.

all the i hate the ACA types are doing the koch brothers bidding. it's hysterical.

Ravi
10-17-2013, 02:46 PM
He said the ACA is the worst thing since slavery. Really? 9/11 anyone? How about the Patriot Act? How about the Great Depression? Lynchings? So many more things are the worst things since slavery.

The guy is delusional.

Green Arrow
10-17-2013, 03:27 PM
Ben Carson, the only person who can beat Hillary in 2016?

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqlufnfD7U1qii6tmo1_500.gif

patrickt
10-17-2013, 03:27 PM
Both parties have their slaves, their blind followers: Let's see...One republican Massa is Fox News. Another is Rush Limbaugh. There's a bunch more obviously. And the Dems have theirs. So it's kind of stupid to call out one segment while ignoring that of the others.

Actually, after watching the clip, Carson says that ObamaCare is slavery. I wonder why he decided to analogize the ACA with slavery.

Nice try, Blad, and fail. He explained why Obamacare was like slavery. Either you didn't listen, didn't understand what he said, or you're dodging. He said that Obamacare is intended to make people subservient to the government. Perhaps you should try listening again.

bladimz
10-17-2013, 03:30 PM
And this is the guy that some people want to see in the White House. Making an analogy like that definitely won't gain him a lot of respectability.

bladimz
10-17-2013, 03:44 PM
Nice try, Blad, and fail. He explained why Obamacare was like slavery. Either you didn't listen, didn't understand what he said, or you're dodging. He said that Obamacare is intended to make people subservient to the government. Perhaps you should try listening again.Tell me that he didn't say that ObamaCare is slavery.... Go 15 seconds into the clip: "...it is slavery, in a way". We'll see who the fail is here. The idea that the ACA is the worst thing to happen in this country since slavery smacks is BS. Why did he go there, all the way back past Viet Nam, the Drepression, the Civil War... Why did he go straight to slavery, i wonder. Any ideas there?

Anyone can take an issue like taxes, war, the Patriot Act, etc. and liken it to slavery, in that some people see them as examples of government control and ownership over the people. That's no mean feat. But who actually is stupid enough to do it... Ben Carson is.

Alyosha
10-17-2013, 04:43 PM
bladimz

what is "slavery"?


I define it as a) having no freedom other than what you are allowed, b) working for someone else where you either labor for free or you have no choice where the fruit(s) of your labor is/are applied, c) you may not dispute your contract, d) you may not negotiate your wages/contract

Can you define what you mean?

AmazonTania
10-17-2013, 04:46 PM
I'll vote for anyone willing to line my pocket and be the bitch of Wall Street.

AmazonTania
10-17-2013, 04:49 PM
Tell me that he didn't say that ObamaCare is slavery.... Go 15 seconds into the clip: "...it is slavery, in a way". We'll see who the fail is here. The idea that the ACA is the worst thing to happen in this country since slavery smacks is BS. Why did he go there, all the way back past Viet Nam, the Drepression, the Civil War... Why did he go straight to slavery, i wonder. Any ideas there?

Anyone can take an issue like taxes, war, the Patriot Act, etc. and liken it to slavery, in that some people see them as examples of government control and ownership over the people. That's no mean feat. But who actually is stupid enough to do it... Ben Carson is.

I dunno.

According to ACA, a private company can take the fruits of your labour, while you have zero say in the matter, by virtue of existing.

If it's not slavery, it's serfdom.

patrickt
10-17-2013, 05:27 PM
Dr. Carson explained what he meant but Blad keeps ignoring that. Or, perhaps he just doesn't get it.

Of course, I haven't figured out yet why anyone voted for Barack Obama. Hope and Change? Boy, a lot to deal with there. Oh, I know. He wasn't George Bush. I suppose he was concerned that liberals might think the little Bolshevik was George Bush. And, as we were reminded constantly, he said he was black. I keep asking leftists to explain why Barack Obama got a Nobel Prize. Is the Nobel Committee committed to Affirmative Action, too?

No, Dr. Carson said nothing outrageous. I'm surprised the leftists would even mention that after two weeks of calling Americans terorists and bombers and kidnappers. Ah, the old Bolshevik bipartisanship in action. You've gotta love it.

bladimz
10-17-2013, 05:28 PM
@bladimz (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=7)

what is "slavery"?


I define it as a) having no freedom other than what you are allowed, b) working for someone else where you either labor for free or you have no choice where the fruit(s) of your labor is/are applied, c) you may not dispute your contract, d) you may not negotiate your wages/contract

Can you define what you mean?I think that a) covers it nicely.

Alyosha
10-17-2013, 05:30 PM
I think that a) covers it nicely.

Then we are all slaves. Ask 90% of the people around you and they will tell you that they get their rights from the government.

The Xl
10-17-2013, 05:30 PM
I'll vote for anyone willing to line my pocket and be the bitch of Wall Street.

So, I take it you like Obama, then?

bladimz
10-17-2013, 05:35 PM
I dunno.

According to ACA, a private company can take the fruits of your labour, while you have zero say in the matter, by virtue of existing.

If it's not slavery, it's serfdom.Who or what is this private company.
According the the Constitution gives congress the right to collect taxes from the american people, the fruit of their labour, without any recourse, by virtue of existing. Should we repeal the Constitution?

bladimz
10-17-2013, 05:42 PM
Then we are all slaves. Ask 90% of the people around you and they will tell you that they get their rights from the government.We are all slaves. Some of us are happier slaves than others, some are richer than others, many are happy to serve as slaves because then they aren't forced to make their own decisions; but we, after all is said and done, all answer to our government sooner or later. As long as we answer to a higher authority (on earth) with whom we dispute with no recourse, we are slave to that authority.

bladimz
10-17-2013, 05:51 PM
I'll vote for anyone willing to line my pocket and be the bitch of Wall Street.And yet i'll bet that OWS is nothing more than a joke to you. I'll bet you don't agree with not one of their causes: http://occupywallst.org/

AmazonTania
10-17-2013, 05:52 PM
Who or what is this private company.

The private company would be insurance companies.


According the the Constitution gives congress the right to collect taxes from the american people, the fruit of their labour, without any recourse, by virtue of existing. Should we repeal the Constitution?

It should. Based on the 16th amendment, the IRS is collecting taxes in volition of the Internal Revenue Code.

Ravi
10-17-2013, 05:54 PM
And this is the guy that some people want to see in the White House. Making an analogy like that definitely won't gain him a lot of respectability.
Leonard Pitts had a good column about it the other day. Virtually tore the guy a new asshole. This guy seems like a more intelligent Herman Cain and I dearly hope he runs on the Republican ticket as the OP wishes.

jillian
10-17-2013, 05:55 PM
Leonard Pitts had a good column about it the other day. Virtually tore the guy a new asshole. This guy seems like a more intelligent Herman Cain and I dearly hope he runs on the Republican ticket as the OP wishes.

is this the article?

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/16/5824349/leonard-pitts-jr-dr-ben-carson.html

Ravi
10-17-2013, 05:57 PM
is this the article?

http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/16/5824349/leonard-pitts-jr-dr-ben-carson.html
Yep! I've been reading him for years. Guy knows how to land a punch.

AmazonTania
10-17-2013, 06:14 PM
And yet i'll bet that OWS is nothing more than a joke to you. I'll bet you don't agree with not one of their causes: http://occupywallst.org/

It is a joke. Occupy Wallstreet is like surgeons who have never done a procedure. They've never been anywhere near an operating table, but somehow, they know everything there is to know about heart surgery. They can't seem to understand why banks are so large and powerful. They don't understand that through banking operations from the US Treasury and Federal Reserve they have accumulated a mass amount of funds, and somehow believe that Government, unlike Corporations, are accountable to only the people.

zelmo1234
10-17-2013, 06:20 PM
Nice try, Blad, and fail. He explained why Obamacare was like slavery. Either you didn't listen, didn't understand what he said, or you're dodging. He said that Obamacare is intended to make people subservient to the government. Perhaps you should try listening again.

They are not going to listen to him, he is a conservative Black man! If he won't enslave himself to the liberal movement , they want nothing to do with him!

zelmo1234
10-17-2013, 06:24 PM
Leonard Pitts had a good column about it the other day. Virtually tore the guy a new asshole. This guy seems like a more intelligent Herman Cain and I dearly hope he runs on the Republican ticket as the OP wishes.

Admit it you just don't like him because he is a real black!

bladimz
10-17-2013, 06:41 PM
Admit it you just don't like him because he is a real black!And you like him because he's a (real) black man who happens to be a conservative. And you think that him being black is an example of "breaking the mold" of the typical "old white male conservative" picture. An added value .

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/756672/giddy-o.gif

zelmo1234
10-17-2013, 06:44 PM
And you like him because he's a (real) black man who happens to be a conservative. And you think that him being black is an example of "breaking the mold" of the typical "old white male conservative" picture. An added value.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmTCDMmwNzuBndZuwbYKzZPXz9xYmFK ikCZFM6bR3jxo6issO-tg

NO I am just having fun calling all of the people that call me racist a racist. Doesn't feel real good does it!

It is easy to play the race card, and they do it all the time, I am just returning the favor!

I actually like him because he is a small government reasonable man that wants to get taxation and spending under control!

bladimz
10-17-2013, 06:51 PM
It is a joke. Occupy Wallstreet is like surgeons who have never done a procedure. They've never been anywhere near an operating table, but somehow, they know everything there is to know about heart surgery. They can't seem to understand why banks are so large and powerful. They don't understand that through banking operations from the US Treasury and Federal Reserve they have accumulated a mass amount of funds, and somehow believe that Government, unlike Corporations, are accountable to only the people.I guess you'd say that because you see them as a rambling, worthless drug-smoking mob that rapes when it's bored. Not surprising at all. Most conservatives aren't interested in giving them a second look. No matter that the OWS spans the spectrum of americans. Young and old, black and white, poor and well-to-do, dumb and smart... What they've seen on cable news (Fox included) is more than enough for them.

bladimz
10-17-2013, 06:57 PM
NO I am just having fun calling all of the people that call me racist a racist. Doesn't feel real good does it!

It is easy to play the race card, and they do it all the time, I am just returning the favor!

I actually like him because he is a small government reasonable man that wants to get taxation and spending under control!It's amazing that you buy that, Zelmo. You're smarter than that. Do you really think that the Washington Machine will ever let that happen? C'mon now.

bladimz
10-17-2013, 07:02 PM
This is exactly why the people who are looking for this country to reverse course and steer it's way back to some form of small government and lower taxes are living in a dream-state. The power fueling the growth of government is not the ideology of the left or the right specifically. It is generated by the ownership of government: The Banks and the MegaCorps. Now that their jaws are locked in, they'll never let go.

AmazonTania
10-17-2013, 07:03 PM
I guess you'd say that because you see them as a rambling, worthless drug-smoking mob that rapes when it's bored. Not surprising at all. Most conservatives aren't interested in giving them a second look. No matter that the OWS spans the spectrum of americans. Young and old, black and white, poor and well-to-do, dumb and smart... What they've seen on cable news (Fox included) is more than enough for them.

I'm not a conservative. Very common mistake, but all I care about is making money...

And I'm well aware of the spectrum. I went with my boss down to Liberty Park to speak with a few of their supporters. It was actually very clean to my surprise. They have very legitimate concerns, but their anger is directed in the wrong place. They will ultimately accomplish nothing, but they're fools. The lot of them.

Alyosha
10-17-2013, 07:21 PM
This is exactly why the people who are looking for this country to reverse course and steer it's way back to some form of small government and lower taxes are living in a dream-state. The power fueling the growth of government is not the ideology of the left or the right specifically. It is generated by the ownership of government: The Banks and the MegaCorps. Now that their jaws are locked in, they'll never let go.

If we make them, they will.

They are evil worthless men, but they are men. To bring in a Game of Thrones reference: who has the power?

I hate to sound ruthless, but the sellsword has the power. Everything else is an illusion.

bladimz
10-17-2013, 08:14 PM
If we make them, they will.

They are evil worthless men, but they are men. To bring in a Game of Thrones reference: who has the power?

I hate to sound ruthless, but the sellsword has the power. Everything else is an illusion.I'm sorry. I'm not an idealist. I don't believe in the power of the dedicated few against the power of the Machine. Raging against the Machine is common and constant. Crippling and bringing it down is something that can only happen with a strong united world-wide movement. And it needs to be world-wide because the Machine is world-wide. We humans are just not that intellectually advanced; at this point, we lack the combined willingness to accept the pain that will most assuredly rain down.

Don't mean to sound so melodramatic. Sorry, again.

Ravi
10-18-2013, 04:58 AM
Admit it you just don't like him because he is a real black!What is a real black? A black that you personally approve of? My goodness.

jillian
10-18-2013, 05:01 AM
What is a real black? A black that you personally approve of? My goodness.

someone who takes every position he believes in.

patrickt
10-18-2013, 08:37 AM
NO I am just having fun calling all of the people that call me racist a racist. Doesn't feel real good does it!

It is easy to play the race card, and they do it all the time, I am just returning the favor!

I actually like him because he is a small government reasonable man that wants to get taxation and spending under control!

Get serious, Blad. Calling people racist is a basic tactic for leftists. Then, the leftists make sure that blacks stay poor, don't get an education, Leftists have guaranteed that 70% of the black babies born are born to single-mothers and they certainly want the boys to grow up without a father so they never learn to be men.

A man was using my computer one day and the mouse was set for a left-handed person. He whined that I didn't realize how awkward that was. I laughed and said, "I live in a right-handed world. I think I understand." So, Blad, the last person in the world you can whine to when you're pulled out of the closet as a racist is a conservative who's called a racist because he isn't voting for the communist. A conservatives who thinks jobs and independence trumps food stamps, welfare, and total dependence on the liberal plantation.

No, that whine of your's about showing evil conservatives what it feels like to be called a racist is hilarious and doesn't play. If you don't want to be a racist, then quit supporting the political ideology that is racist.

patrickt
10-18-2013, 08:42 AM
What is a real black? A black that you personally approve of? My goodness.

Well, let's see. Justice Thomas isn't a real black. He's an Uncle Tom. He benefited from Affirmative Action, according to the left. Condoleeza Rice isn't a real black. Herman Cain isn't a real black. Dr. Carson isn't a real black. Not even Bill Cosby is a real black. Gen. Powell only became a real black when he came out on the left.

So, who is a real black. Oh, right. The guy who had a white mother, was largely raised by white grandparents, went to private schools where he got a pass, had a tutor to teach him to be black and to be a communist, then went into politics as his life's work, trying desperately to pass as a real black by attending a racist, Marxist church for 20 years and hearing nothing the preacher, who he described as a mentor, said about hating America and Americans. Now, for the racist liberals, that's a "real" black.

Apparently, the only qualification to be a real black is to be somewhere to the left of Stalin and to hate America.