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Libhater
10-22-2013, 03:31 PM
Some anti American Obama quotes:

"Whatever we once were, we're no longer a Christian nation."

"As a student of history, I also know civilization's debt to Islam."

"In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world."

"Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans."

"So I read the book to help me understand what it is that makes white people so afraid, their demons, the way ideas get twisted around. It helps me understand how people learn to hate."

"There have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

"You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a pin," Obama said, "Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq War, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest.


To further understand why Obama is anti American, one would have to do a little research into his past where he learned the political ropes from a radical leftist anti American named Saul Alinsky. Add to Obama's progressive approach to politics the fact that he has never said a good thing about America, and you'll soon realize just how disturbing and destructive this guy has become.

http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Barack-Obama-Anti-American-quotes.htm

Cigar
10-22-2013, 03:34 PM
Again?

patrickt
10-22-2013, 04:16 PM
Of course. Read his fictionalize autobiographies. Listen to his apologies. Remember his grin when his wife said his nomination was the first time in her adult life she'd been proud of the U.S., remember his telling the Russian PM that after the election he could be more flexible, remember his proudly saying he was going to make energy a lot more expensive for Americans, remember IRS, NSA, Benghazi, and Fast and Furious. Remember his promise to fundamentally transform the U.S. into something secret.

He hates America and Americans.

jillian
10-22-2013, 04:17 PM
Of course. Read his fictionalize autobiographies. Listen to his apologies. Remember his grin when his wife said his nomination was the first time in her adult life she'd been proud of the U.S., remember his telling the Russian PM that after the election he could be more flexible, remember his proudly saying he was going to make energy a lot more expensive for Americans, remember IRS, NSA, Benghazi, and Fast and Furious. Remember his promise to fundamentally transform the U.S. into something secret.

He hates America and Americans.

only in the winger bubble where you can't say you "disagree" with someone but have to turn them into satan.

Ransom
10-22-2013, 04:19 PM
Obama a US Citizen, but he's not American.

Captain Obvious
10-22-2013, 04:19 PM
only in the winger bubble where you can't say you "disagree" with someone but have to turn them into satan.

Kinda like how the left demonizes the tea party?

Alyosha
10-22-2013, 04:20 PM
I don't even think about it being anti-American. It's anti-freedom, but I'm not sure if American=Freedom anymore.

Green Arrow
10-22-2013, 04:22 PM
No, Obama is not anti-America. Like all progressives, Obama wants America to be strong and healthy...as a world-spanning empire.

I actually would rather he WAS anti-America.

Cigar
10-22-2013, 04:27 PM
Of course. Read his fictionalize autobiographies. Listen to his apologies. Remember his grin when his wife said his nomination was the first time in her adult life she'd been proud of the U.S., remember his telling the Russian PM that after the election he could be more flexible, remember his proudly saying he was going to make energy a lot more expensive for Americans, remember IRS, NSA, Benghazi, and Fast and Furious. Remember his promise to fundamentally transform the U.S. into something secret.

He hates America and Americans.

Yea ... Obama Hates America and Americans sooo much ... he was Elected ... Twice to be President of The United States

That sure is a lot hating for your ass ... :jackoff:

nic34
10-22-2013, 04:29 PM
I actually would rather he WAS anti-America.

Well maybe not, libhater would freak out...:shocked:

zelmo1234
10-22-2013, 04:40 PM
I don't' think that Obama, or liberals hat America.

They believe it is the duty of the government to provide for everyone, even if they don't want to do anything to earn it for themselves.

Most liberals that I know do not like charity not because it doesn't work, but because it makes them feel guilty, as they tend not to donate as much to charity. Most of those on the left don't go the extra mile either, so they do a good job at work, and when the time clock says so they leave. In other words they tend to not rise to the top!

This gives them the right to take from those that do go the extra mile and get ahead, because if there is one thing that all libs have in common it is that they feel that they are smarter than anyone else and that people should do what they feel they should do!

When you add to the fact that all liberals must be seen as being compassionate, And it is the perfect storm that has Obama in office.

So you have an arrogant liberal man, that has no life experience other than an agitator, and he is appalled that the people don't see his wisdom and just despises any and all opposition.


This is another trait of those on the left, because they base their life in the cloak of appearing to be compassionate? They do not base their opinions on facts or reality, but the utopia that they feel there policies would bring to the world

So he does not hate America he just wants people to do exactly as he wants them to do, with no questions as he knows what is best for them.

Chris
10-22-2013, 04:45 PM
Here's my view on it. He's pro-American when it comes to increasing the size and scope of government--in many ways more of the same as Bush. He's anti-American in the sense of rather than going to Washington to change government, he went to America to change the country, the people--this is not in the job description, nor, iirc, what he promised.

This may be another way of saying what Alyosha said about his being anti-freedom. --America is less and less about liberty, and more and more about dependence on government.

Mainecoons
10-22-2013, 04:51 PM
And it is dependence on a government that is headed hell bent for a train wreck. The people out of the work force hit a new high today, the IRS has screwed up so bad they gave out 110 billion in fraudulent earned income credits, Obama spent a half billion dollars on a web site that is so bad the experts are saying it needs to be junked completely and started over.

It just goes on and on, the waste, fraud, incompetence, stupidity and fiscal insanity of the U.S. Federal government. But what is telling are the number of fools who post here on this website advocating giving this unmitigated disaster of a government more power, size and money.

To do what? F**k up worse?

Because that is all you are going to get from D.C. folks, more f-ups.

Chris
10-22-2013, 04:56 PM
It is hell bent because you can't just keep spending more and more of the wealth needed to create more wealth.

nic34
10-22-2013, 04:59 PM
Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota? It's the Banks

But North Dakota is also red in another sense: it fully supports its state-owned Bank of North Dakota (BND), a socialist relic that exists nowhere else in America. Why is financial socialism still alive in North Dakota? Why haven't the North Dakotan free-market crusaders slain it dead?
Because it works.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/15435-why-is-socialism-doing-so-darn-well-in-deep-red-north-dakota

Chris
10-22-2013, 05:01 PM
Why Is Socialism Doing So Darn Well in Deep-Red North Dakota? It's the Banks

But North Dakota is also red in another sense: it fully supports its state-owned Bank of North Dakota (BND), a socialist relic that exists nowhere else in America. Why is financial socialism still alive in North Dakota? Why haven't the North Dakotan free-market crusaders slain it dead?
Because it works.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/15435-why-is-socialism-doing-so-darn-well-in-deep-red-north-dakota


Nice try when there are neither red states nor socialist banks.

nic34
10-22-2013, 05:06 PM
Try reading, chris.

Alaska is socialist too
Most of the oil under its tundra is on state-owned land. So when oil companies come and drill and pump that oil, they have to pay the State of Alaska huge royalty fees. For what amounts to state-owned oil.

Hmmmmm.... State ownership of a natural resource. That sounds a whole lot more like socialism than capitalism to me. :wink:

Chris
10-22-2013, 05:28 PM
Try reading, chris.

Alaska is socialist too
Most of the oil under its tundra is on state-owned land. So when oil companies come and drill and pump that oil, they have to pay the State of Alaska huge royalty fees. For what amounts to state-owned oil.

Hmmmmm.... State ownership of a natural resource. That sounds a whole lot more like socialism than capitalism to me. :wink:

I read it, nic, your post, your link. You and the author have a strange sense of socialism. And capitalism.

patrickt
10-22-2013, 05:30 PM
only in the winger bubble where you can't say you "disagree" with someone but have to turn them into satan.

Sorry, Jillian. I'm an atheist. I don't consider enemies of America to be Satan. I leave that to those living in LibWorld like Grayson and Jillian.

But, you did remind me mentioning Satan that Barack Obama spent twenty years attending a church where the minister railed in speeches and written texts, "God Damn America." Barack Obama, who describes Rev. Wright as a mentor said, "I never heard any of that." Loons on the left said, "Oh, well, that's okay then."

Mr Happy
10-22-2013, 05:38 PM
Here's my view on it. He's pro-American when it comes to increasing the size and scope of government--in many ways more of the same as Bush. He's anti-American in the sense of rather than going to Washington to change government, he went to America to change the country, the people--this is not in the job description, nor, iirc, what he promised.

This may be another way of saying what Alyosha said about his being anti-freedom. --America is less and less about liberty, and more and more about dependence on government.

In order for him to be anti-American, you first have to decide what America is. And who gets to decide that?

That aside, the OP starter and Ransom are just right-wing loons...

Chris
10-22-2013, 05:50 PM
In order for him to be anti-American, you first have to decide what America is. And who gets to decide that?

...



Yes, that's sort of what I was getting at. If you define America as its ruling class, he very pro, but if you define it as the country class, he's anti.

Mr Happy
10-22-2013, 06:07 PM
What is the country class?

Mainecoons
10-22-2013, 06:11 PM
Anything other than the ruling elite. The rest of us.

Don't you have those in New Zealand?

Mr Happy
10-22-2013, 06:12 PM
Anything other than the ruling elite. The rest of us.

Don't you have those in New Zealand?


Not really. NZ politics is way more transparent...

Chris
10-22-2013, 06:19 PM
What is the country class?

Anything outside the corporatist ruling class in Washington.


American politics is transparent too, the ruling class is out of touch with the country class.

Mainecoons
10-22-2013, 06:21 PM
Not really. NZ politics is way more transparent...

I'm glad for you but it illustrates why your experience is way outside of the level required to understand what is going on in the U.S. and why it is destroying itself very rapidly.

patrickt
10-22-2013, 06:22 PM
And I forgot Barack Obama's good friends, Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dorn. Bill like to strut around saying, "Guilty as sin, free as a bird." Yep, Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dorn, and Barack Obama are fellow travelers on the road to the workers paradise. You know, like East Germany.

Mr Happy
10-22-2013, 06:28 PM
I'm glad for you but it illustrates why your experience is way outside of the level required to understand what is going on in the U.S. and why it is destroying itself very rapidly.

Me explaining our transparency has nothing to do with my experience. US politics is easy to understand. Very...

Ravi
10-22-2013, 07:02 PM
Anything other than the ruling elite. The rest of us.

Don't you have those in New Zealand?

Well then. Why don't you elect someone to run for pres aside from Romney types?

Ravi
10-22-2013, 07:03 PM
And I forgot Barack Obama's good friends, Bill Ayers and Bernadette Dorn. Bill like to strut around saying, "Guilty as sin, free as a bird." Yep, Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dorn, and Barack Obama are fellow travelers on the road to the workers paradise. You know, like East Germany.
Yeah, Obama loves terrorists, hates America, is a Negro, is a Kenyan, and wants to put you in a FEMA camp.

jillian
10-22-2013, 07:03 PM
Yeah, Obama loves terrorists, hates America, is a Negro, is a Kenyan, and wants to put you in a FEMA camp.

it all makes so much sense... lmao!

jillian
10-22-2013, 07:04 PM
What is the country class?

he made it up

Chris
10-22-2013, 07:08 PM
he made it up

No, jillian, I have no need to do what you do. First read it, ruling class v country class, a year or two ago, see it used now and then. I wouldn't expect a partisan to understand it.

Green Arrow
10-22-2013, 07:09 PM
Yeah, Obama loves terrorists, hates America, is a Negro, is a Kenyan, and wants to put you in a FEMA camp.

And Republicans who grow government are anarchists.

Hahahahahaha.

zelmo1234
10-22-2013, 07:15 PM
Try reading, chris.

Alaska is socialist too
Most of the oil under its tundra is on state-owned land. So when oil companies come and drill and pump that oil, they have to pay the State of Alaska huge royalty fees. For what amounts to state-owned oil.

Hmmmmm.... State ownership of a natural resource. That sounds a whole lot more like socialism than capitalism to me. :wink:

A State Selling oil to a private owned company is now socialism?

Back in my day if the state started it own oil company to get the oil, and refined it and brought it to market that would have been socialism.

but under your new definition, the logging industry would have been socialist too?

NO selling to private companies is really kind of a capitalist move

Alyosha
10-22-2013, 07:49 PM
Yeah, Obama loves terrorists, hates America, is a Negro, is a Kenyan, and wants to put you in a FEMA camp.

Obama drops drones on terrorists and harmless villagers alike.

Obama might love America depends on how you define "love" and "America".

Obama is half-negro/half-caucasion.

Obama is a Kenyan and an American.

Obama probably would people in FEMA camps based off his precedence between 2009 and 2011 of doing fuck all about Gitmo and prosecuting torturers.

Ravi
10-23-2013, 04:51 AM
he made it up
It's a glibertarian buzz phrase aimed at divisiveness.

Cigar
10-23-2013, 07:05 AM
:smiley_ROFLMAO: Hysterical

jillian
10-23-2013, 07:12 AM
It's a glibertarian buzz phrase aimed at divisiveness.

ah... in other words, nothing new there.

Chris
10-23-2013, 07:16 AM
It's a glibertarian buzz phrase aimed at divisiveness.



To a statist like yourself, I imagine it is divisive to separate the people and the government.

Chris
10-23-2013, 07:17 AM
ah... in other words, nothing new there.

Already explained it's nothing new.