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Cigar
10-30-2013, 07:54 AM
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“Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.”

–Vice President Dick Cheney, 2002

Given the great hullabaloo in Washington over government spending, here are a couple of noteworthy facts. Under President Obama, the federal budget deficit has been more than cut in half, from a FY 2009 high of $1.55 trillion (largely inherited from George W. Bush) to an estimated $642 billion this year, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

However, a recent Bloomberg News poll shows that 10 percent of American voters are acquainted with this indisputable fact — 59 percent mistakenly believe that the deficit has risen under Obama. Another 26 percent think it’s remained approximately the same. It’s hard to run a democracy given such widespread public ignorance.

Militant ignorance, much of it. Fully 93 percent of Tea Party members subscribe to the false belief that government spending is skyrocketing out of control. No wonder they’re running around with their hair on fire.

But hold that thought, because there’s more: Measured as a percentage of the overall U.S. economy, the federal budget deficit has shrunk from 10.1 percent in 2009 to 4 percent today. Given increased revenue and decreased spending, the CBO projects the figure will decrease to 2.1 percent by 2015.

full article
http://www.nationalmemo.com/its-hard-to-run-a-democracy-with-an-ignorant-public/

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nathanbforrest45
10-30-2013, 07:57 AM
So, are you better off now or were you better off under Reagan or even Clinton for that matter.

Reagan's budget proposals were "Dead on Arrival" according to Tip ONeil, the DEMOCRATIC Speaker of the House.

zelmo1234
10-30-2013, 08:01 AM
And yet they don't care that this president will run up more debt than all other presidents combined?

Yes running a 200 billion dollar deficit would not be the end of the world.

So when you have deficits in the TRILLIONS? It matters.

Cigar
10-30-2013, 08:03 AM
And yet they don't care that this president will run up more debt than all other presidents combined?

Yes running a 200 billion dollar deficit would not be the end of the world.

So when you have deficits in the TRILLIONS? It matters.

:rollseyes:

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:rollseyes:

Kabuki Joe
10-30-2013, 09:35 AM
...I can't believe cigar posted this topic...I mean they (the libretards) post all the polls where the majority of people think like them and now cigar posts this...too funny...

keymanjim
10-30-2013, 09:38 AM
It's hard to run a democracy when you live in a Republic.

BB-35
10-30-2013, 11:26 AM
It's hard to run a democracy when you live in a Republic.

My thoughts exactly....

jillian
10-30-2013, 11:32 AM
My thoughts exactly....

except that wasn't the point of the article now, was it?

TheDictator
10-30-2013, 11:37 AM
except that wasn't the point of the article now, was it?

Well the point is the United States of America is not a democracy.

jillian
10-30-2013, 11:39 AM
Well the point is the United States of America is not a democracy.

no. the point was that low information voters vote for stupid people like baby bush and steve king and yoho or whatever his name is.

glad to be of assistance.

Cigar
10-30-2013, 11:39 AM
And yet they don't care that this president will run up more debt than all other presidents combined?

Yes running a 200 billion dollar deficit would not be the end of the world.

So when you have deficits in the TRILLIONS? It matters.

Please Stop it ... the act is getting old.

Stop pretending you give a shit about debt, or The GOP would have Filibustered to huge off-the-books spending by their own party.

So give it a rest, you lost.

hanger4
10-30-2013, 11:40 AM
except that wasn't the point of the article now, was it?

Ironic ain't it jillian ??

Gene Lyons, the author, was complaining about

an "Ignorant Public" yet he shows his own ignorance

by implying we live in a democracy.

I laughed.

Cigar
10-30-2013, 11:42 AM
Ironic ain't it jillian ??

Gene Lyons, the author, was complaining about

an "Ignorant Public" yet he shows his own ignorance

by implying we live in a democracy.

I laughed.


Maybe he'll write a book on how to win elections next. :laugh:

jillian
10-30-2013, 11:42 AM
Please Stop it ... the act is getting old.

Stop pretending you give a shit about debt, or The GOP would have Filibustered to huge off-the-books spending by their own party.

So give it a rest, you lost.

you have to almost admire their chutzpah in making the "fiscal responsibility" argument after costing us 1.5 billion a week in government spending... and another (according to S&P) 24 billion to our economy.

they're funny...

if they didn't vote

keymanjim
10-30-2013, 11:51 AM
Maybe he'll write a book on how to win elections next. :laugh:
Do what your obama did and pander to low information voters.

Cigar
10-30-2013, 11:54 AM
Do what your obama did and pander to low information voters.

Look like you got a Education in Community Organization :smiley_ROFLMAO:

keymanjim
10-30-2013, 11:55 AM
Look like you got a Education in Community Organization :smiley_ROFLMAO:
Too bad that we needed a president and not a community organizer.

Kabuki Joe
10-30-2013, 01:31 PM
no. the point was that low information voters vote for stupid people like baby bush and steve king and yoho or whatever his name is.

glad to be of assistance.


...glad to see you listen to Rush...

Agravan
10-30-2013, 02:19 PM
no. the point was that low information voters vote for stupid people like baby bush and steve king and yoho or whatever his name is.

glad to be of assistance.
You forgot to add Obama to that list... you're welcome.

BB-35
10-30-2013, 02:31 PM
except that wasn't the point of the article now, was it?

Excuse me?

The OP isn't 'the public'?

And he isn't showing his ignorance by claiming our republic is a 'democracy'?
Really?

patrickt
10-30-2013, 03:52 PM
No, Cigar, you simply use taxpayer money to buy votes.

Common
10-30-2013, 04:00 PM
And yet they don't care that this president will run up more debt than all other presidents combined?

Yes running a 200 billion dollar deficit would not be the end of the world.

You mean corporate greedsters and idiots like ted crooooze shutting down the govt putting his billions more in debt for NOTHING is the real reason.
To some there was never any debt until obama won the presidency twice.
You do realize that all this rhetoric and whining you did for his first 4 yrs and most of america didnt buy it and re elected him you will just as unsuccessful this time.

So when you have deficits in the TRILLIONS? It matters.

AmazonTania
10-30-2013, 05:40 PM
Lets start with the fact that the photo is inaccurate and there was no surplus during the Clinton administration.

And it was actually Roosevelt who proved that deficits don't matter.

But I wouldn't expect an ignorant public to know this...

Blackrook
10-30-2013, 07:10 PM
I am old enough to remember when Tip O'Neill and the Democrats would boast that Reagan's budgets were "DOA" as soon as they arrived at Congress.

Cigar
10-30-2013, 07:18 PM
Too bad that we needed a president and not a community organizer.

You got McStupid and Mitt, your you can't talk. You lost.

Blackrook
10-30-2013, 07:26 PM
You got McStupid and Mitt, your you can't talk. You lost.
Yes, we lost. Obama got elected and the whole country lost. We are suffering the loss of our homes, the loss of our jobs, the failure of our businesses, foreclosures, the lack of any future for our kids who graduate college, yes, we all lost because Obama got elected.

But keep gloating about it Cigar. You're like Nero fiddling while Rome burns.

keymanjim
10-30-2013, 08:45 PM
Yes, we lost. Obama got elected and the whole country lost. We are suffering the loss of our homes, the loss of our jobs, the failure of our businesses, foreclosures, the lack of any future for our kids who graduate college, yes, we all lost because Obama got elected.

But keep gloating about it Cigar. You're like Nero fiddling while Rome burns.
Not to mention the fact that our enemies no longer fear us and our allies neither trust nor respect us.