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Libhater
11-04-2013, 11:21 AM
10. Conservatives believe that individual Americans have a right to defend themselves and their families with guns and that right cannot be taken away by any method short of a Constitutional Amendment, which Conservatives would oppose. Liberals believe by taking arms away from law abiding citizens, they can prevent criminals, who aren't going to abide by gun control laws, from using guns in the commission of crimes.

9. Conservatives believe that we should live in a color blind society where every individual is judged on the content of his character and the merits of his actions. On the other hand, liberals believe that it's ok to discriminate based on race as long as it primarily benefits minority groups.

8. Conservatives are capitalists and believe that entrepreneurs who amass great wealth through their own efforts are good for the country and shouldn't be punished for being successful. Liberals are socialists who view successful business owners as people who cheated the system somehow or got lucky. That's why they don't respect high achievers and see them as little more than piggy banks for their programs.

7. Conservatives believe that abortion ends the life of an innocent child and since we believe that infanticide is wrong, we oppose abortion. Most liberals, despite what they tell you, believe that abortion ends the life of an innocent child, but they prefer killing the baby to inconveniencing the mother.

6. Conservatives believe in confronting and defeating enemies of the United States before they can harm American citizens. Liberals believe in using law enforcement measures to deal with terrorism, which means they feel we should allow terrorists to train, plan, and actually attempt to kill Americans before we try to arrest them--as if you can just send the police around to pick up a terrorist mastermind hiding in Iran or the wilds of Pakistan.

5. Conservatives, but not necessarily Republicans (which is unfortunate), believe it's vitally important to the future of the country to reduce the size of government, keep taxes low, balance the budget, and get this country out of debt. Liberals, and Democrats for that matter, believe in big government, high taxes, and they have never met a new spending program they didn't like, whether we will have to go into debt to pay for it or not.

4. Conservatives believe that government, by its very nature, tends to be inefficient, incompetent, wasteful, and power hungry. That's why we believe that the government that governs least, governs best. Liberals think that the solution to every problem is another government program. Even when those new programs create new problems, often worse than the ones that were being fixed in the first place, the solution is always...you guessed it, another government program.

3. Conservatives are patriotic, believe that America is a great nation, and are primarily interested in looking out for the good of the country. That's why we believe in "American exceptionalism" and "America first." Liberals are internationalists who are more concerned about what Europeans think of us and staying in the good graces of the corrupt bureaucrats who control the UN than looking out for the best interests of this nation.

2. Conservatives, most of them anyway, believe in God and think that the Constitution has been twisted by liberal judges to illegitimately try to purge Christianity from the public square. We also believe, most of us anyway, that this country has been successful in large part because it is a good Christian nation and if our country ever turns away from the Lord, it will cease to prosper. Liberals. most of them anyway, are hostile to Christianity. That's why, whether you're talking about a school play at Christmas time, a judge putting the Ten Commandments on the wall of his court, or a store employee saying "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays," liberals are dedicated to driving reminders of Christianity from polite society.

1. Conservatives believe in pursuing policies because they're pragmatic and because they work. Liberals believe in pursuing policies because they're "nice" and make them feel good. Whether the policies they're advocating actually work or not is of secondary importance to them.

BONUS) Conservatives believe that judges should act like umpires instead of legislating from the bench. That means that judges should determine whether laws are permissible under the Constitution and settle debates about the meaning of laws, not impose their will based on their ideological leanings. Liberals view judges as a backdoor method of getting unpopular left-leaning legislation passed.

John Hawkins


ps: I've noticed a few people here saying that there is little if no difference between a liberal and a CONSERVATIVE. Perhaps these 10 examples and the BONUS will help you to dispel such nonsense.

Chris
11-04-2013, 12:02 PM
ps: I've noticed a few people here saying that there is little if no difference between a liberal and a CONSERVATIVE. Perhaps these 10 examples and the BONUS will help you to dispel such nonsense.


I think a lot of us see no difference in general between Republicans and Democrats, between Bush and two clones, Romney and Obama.

"The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it."
~P. J. O'Rourke

The Xl
11-04-2013, 12:04 PM
1. Both support redistribution of wealth to bankers and other corporations.

2. Both support nonstop war in the Middle East.

3. Both support our interventionist foreign policy in general

4. Both support the Patriot Act and the NDAA

5. Neither side wants to audit the Fed

6. Both support killing Americans without a trial

7. Neither side wants to legalize or decriminalize drugs.

8. Both sides support Kensyian economics.

9. Both sides support drone strikes

10. Republicans supported an Obamacare-esque template in the 90s, and Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee, actually passed the blueprint for Obamacare in Massachusetts.

Bonus: Both sides are funded by the same donors.

Captain Obvious
11-04-2013, 12:09 PM
1. Both support redistribution of wealth to bankers and other corporations.

2. Both support nonstop war in the Middle East.

3. Both support our interventionist foreign policy in general

4. Both support the Patriot Act and the NDAA

5. Neither side wants to audit the Fed

6. Both support killing Americans without a trial

7. Neither side wants to legalize or decriminalize drugs.

8. Both sides support Kensyian economics.

9. Both sides support drone strikes

10. Republicans supported an Obamacare-esque template in the 90s, and Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee, actually passed the blueprint for Obamacare in Massachusetts.

Bonus: Both sides are funded by the same donors.

http://vernoncroy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/nba-slam-dunk-contest-2010.jpg

jillian
11-04-2013, 12:13 PM
1. Both support redistribution of wealth to bankers and other corporations.

2. Both support nonstop war in the Middle East.

3. Both support our interventionist foreign policy in general

4. Both support the Patriot Act and the NDAA

5. Neither side wants to audit the Fed

6. Both support killing Americans without a trial

7. Neither side wants to legalize or decriminalize drugs.

8. Both sides support Kensyian economics.

9. Both sides support drone strikes

10. Republicans supported an Obamacare-esque template in the 90s, and Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee, actually passed the blueprint for Obamacare in Massachusetts.

Bonus: Both sides are funded by the same donors.

both sides do not support keynsian economics. one supports austrian economic austerity (well, for anyone who isn't in the top 1%) and believes in voodoo trickle down economics

both sides do not believe we should allow the radical religious right to theocratize our laws

both sides do not appoint judges who would say "corporations are people for purposes of the first amendment".

both sides do not cherry pick intel to start pretend wars of choice

both sides do not cut services to poor people while raising subsidies for rich agrarians in congress

it is very facile to try and say "they're all alike" but that is a narrow view.... and get money out of politics (oops, you can't now because of scalia and his friends) and you'd see the differences get wider.

patrickt
11-04-2013, 12:21 PM
I think a lot of us see no difference in general between Republicans and Democrats, between Bush and two clones, Romney and Obama.

"The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it."
~P. J. O'Rourke

Neither party is what I want but to say you see no difference is to say you're a fool.

Mister D
11-04-2013, 12:22 PM
Neither party is what I want but to say you see no difference is to say you're a fool.

Neither party offers a real alternative.

Kabuki Joe
11-04-2013, 12:24 PM
Neither party offers a real alternative.


...the monster has become too big and powerful...

Mister D
11-04-2013, 12:27 PM
...the monster has become too big and powerful...

Well, yeah. The fact of the matter is that the welfare state and a (relatively) free market are generally agreed upon. Neither faces a serious ideological threat from any direction.

Codename Section
11-04-2013, 12:46 PM
1. Both support redistribution of wealth to bankers and other corporations.

2. Both support nonstop war in the Middle East.

3. Both support our interventionist foreign policy in general

4. Both support the Patriot Act and the NDAA

5. Neither side wants to audit the Fed

6. Both support killing Americans without a trial

7. Neither side wants to legalize or decriminalize drugs.

8. Both sides support Kensyian economics.

9. Both sides support drone strikes

10. Republicans supported an Obamacare-esque template in the 90s, and Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee, actually passed the blueprint for Obamacare in Massachusetts.

Bonus: Both sides are funded by the same donors.

Not quite

http://woody.typepad.com/files/news_media_donations_chart.gif


But the rest is true. You'll just never know it because of the above ^^


:D

The Xl
11-04-2013, 12:49 PM
Not quite

http://woody.typepad.com/files/news_media_donations_chart.gif


But the rest is true. You'll just never know it because of the above ^^


:D

Look at the banks and such. They sure hedged their bets.

Codename Section
11-04-2013, 12:50 PM
both sides do not support keynsian economics. one supports austrian economic austerity (well, for anyone who isn't in the top 1%) and believes in voodoo trickle down economics

Both sides do support keynesian economics. Try lowering the budget for DOD or CIA and you'll see a shit load of keynesians step up to stop you.




both sides do not believe we should allow the radical religious right to theocratize our laws


LOL no, we both sides believe we should allow the radical _______ right/left to theocratize our laws. The right worships a god, the left worships the state...both are radical and scary



both sides do not appoint judges who would say "corporations are people for purposes of the first amendment".


no, but both sides appoint judges who would say that routine traffic stops can end in a check of a black man's anus.



both sides do not cherry pick intel to start pretend wars of choice


**Syria**



both sides do not cut services to poor people while raising subsidies for rich agrarians in congress


both sides cut services to poor people while raising subsidies for rich NSA contractors



it is very facile to try and say "they're all alike" but that is a narrow view.... and get money out of politics (oops, you can't now because of scalia and his friends) and you'd see the differences get wider.

Yehhhhh

Chris
11-04-2013, 01:03 PM
both sides do not support keynsian economics. one supports austrian economic austerity (well, for anyone who isn't in the top 1%) and believes in voodoo trickle down economics...

What a crock. Both are Keynesian be they supply or demand siders, be they trickle down or trickle up or even tickle out.

And what austerity are you talking about, there never was any. That's been demonstrated to you several times, but you're a partisan repeater.

Chris
11-04-2013, 01:04 PM
Neither party is what I want but to say you see no difference is to say you're a fool.

What difference then?