Holder ~ *Zimmy may still be prosecuted*

[exotix]

Today


Zimmy is far from cleared of any wrongdoing

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/5/eric-holder-we-might-still-charge-george-zimmerman/


U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/eric-holder/) said George Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/) of Florida may have been acquitted of murder charges in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/trayvon-martin/), but in the eyes of the federal government, he’s still living in a shadow of suspicion.

Mr. Holder (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/eric-holder/) said he’s still not sure if the federal government will pursue civil rights charges against Mr. Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/), Breitbart.com reported.

The shooting occurred in February 2012. And Mr. Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/) was found not guilty on all second-degree murder charges, with the jury determining that the shooting was defensive.

But to Mr. Holder (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/eric-holder/), Mr. Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/) is far from cleared of any wrongdoing.

“I’m not sure exactly how much longer that will take, but we will get to a point where we are able to make a determination” about a civil rights lawsuit, he said, Breitbart.com reported.

The White House has watched the case closely.

President Obama even weighed in at one point, suggesting during one speech that Mr. Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/) was guilty of racial profiling and during another public statement that his own son, if he had one, would look like Trayvon (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/trayvon-martin/).




How long before Zimmy kills again ... Zimmy felony-stop after assaulting his wife and her dad


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j78J56wa620

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnMx7QzZa7c

[Captain Obvious]

dupelicate thread

[Codename Section]

Great. That's an awesome use of tax dollars. Prosecute Zimmerman, prosecute reporters, don't prosecute HSBC for money laundering....awesome.

You guys are too cool. Really.

[Cigar]

Careful, Zimmy has Girlfriends on board :laugh:

[ptif219]

Today


Zimmy is far from cleared of any wrongdoing

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/5/eric-holder-we-might-still-charge-george-zimmerman/
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/eric-holder/) said George Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/) of Florida may have been acquitted of murder charges in the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/trayvon-martin/), but in the eyes of the federal government, he’s still living in a shadow of suspicion.

Mr. Holder (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/eric-holder/) said he’s still not sure if the federal government will pursue civil rights charges against Mr. Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/), Breitbart.com reported.

The shooting occurred in February 2012. And Mr. Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/) was found not guilty on all second-degree murder charges, with the jury determining that the shooting was defensive.

But to Mr. Holder (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/eric-holder/), Mr. Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/) is far from cleared of any wrongdoing.

“I’m not sure exactly how much longer that will take, but we will get to a point where we are able to make a determination” about a civil rights lawsuit, he said, Breitbart.com reported.

The White House has watched the case closely.

President Obama even weighed in at one point, suggesting during one speech that Mr. Zimmerman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/george-zimmerman/) was guilty of racial profiling and during another public statement that his own son, if he had one, would look like Trayvon (http://thepoliticalforums.com/topics/trayvon-martin/).




How long before Zimmy kills again ... Zimmy felony stop after assaulting his wife and her dad


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j78J56wa620

Imagine that!! An election season coming and the racist party wants to put a racist trial in the news. Obama is a scumbag

[Cigar]

:grin: :riot:

[Ransom]

Throw out bait, the fish will come.

hi Cigar.

[exotix]

Great. That's an awesome use of tax dollars. Prosecute Zimmerman, prosecute reporters, don't prosecute HSBC for money laundering....awesome.

You guys are too cool. Really.
I think it's political ... the DOJ dragging it's feet until the only pseudo-rational 2016 GOP candidate ... Jebby-Boy ... throws his hat into the 2016 Prez election ... then nail his campaign with the murder of Martin as Jebbys' fault ..



NRA dwarf Marrion Hammer with Jeb Bush as he signs the Florida NRA Stand Your Ground Law

http://i39.tinypic.com/11alq2b.jpg

[Codename Section]

I think Zimmerman was a dick and should have had manslaughter charges thrown at him, but Corey didn't agree. Now we're stuck with this shit forever.

And it will be forever. OJ stopped throwing touchdowns before I was born but I have to know who he is. My kids will hear about George Zimmerman.

Thank you guys for dragging it out.

[ptif219]

I think it's political ... the DOJ dragging it's feet until the only pseudo-rational 2016 GOP candidate ... Jebby-Boy ... throws his hat into the 2016 Prez election ... then nail his campaign with the murder of Martin as Jebbys' fault ..



NRA dwarf Marrion Hammer with Jeb Bush as he signs the NRA Stand Your Ground Law

http://i39.tinypic.com/11alq2b.jpg

They want it for 2014 so Obama thinks he can hold the senate and win back the house. Obamacare will make this irrelevant.

[exotix]

Imagine that!! An election season coming and the racist party wants to put a racist trial in the news. Obama is a scumbag

It is political ... 2014 will see the resurruction of the AWB ...

[Cigar]

I think Zimmerman was a dick and should have had manslaughter charges thrown at him, but Corey didn't agree. Now we're stuck with this shit forever.

And it will be forever. OJ stopped throwing touchdowns before I was born but I have to know who he is. My kids will hear about George Zimmerman.

Thank you guys for dragging it out.

I'm betting it won't be forever ... remember, this country is full of Gun Lovers, and Zim Zim isn't the only one who has one.

Stay Tuned ... more to come.

[ptif219]

I think Zimmerman was a dick and should have had manslaughter charges thrown at him, but Corey didn't agree. Now we're stuck with this shit forever.

And it will be forever. OJ stopped throwing touchdowns before I was born but I have to know who he is. My kids will hear about George Zimmerman.

Thank you guys for dragging it out.

That is because it has always been about politics not about the law and not about who died

[ptif219]

It is political ... 2014 will see the resurruction of the AWB ...

2014 will be about Obamacare

[exotix]

They want it for 2014 so Obama thinks he can hold the senate and win back the house. Obamacare will make this irrelevant.

You had your chance to take the country back ... with obstruction, high-treason and blackmail & extortion of the govt ... your time for honoring and glorifying yourself is coming to an end.

[Ransom]

I'm betting it won't be forever ... remember, this country is full of Gun Lovers, and Zim Zim isn't the only one who has one.

Stay Tuned ... more to come.


You cannot legally buy a handgun in Chicago, the nation’s most murderous city.

You can own one, but only if you’ve owned it since before 1982 and you register it every year with the Chicago Police Department.

Perhaps Zim should move to Chicago...where it's safe.

[exotix]

You cannot legally buy a handgun in Chicago, the nation’s most murderous city.

You can own one, but only if you’ve owned it since before 1982 and you register it every year with the Chicago Police Department.

Perhaps Zim should move to Chicago...where it's safe.
That reminds me ... what was he doing in Texas ?

[Cigar]

You cannot legally buy a handgun in Chicago, the nation’s most murderous city.

You can own one, but only if you’ve owned it since before 1982 and you register it every year with the Chicago Police Department.

Perhaps Zim should move to Chicago...where it's safe.

Never lived in Chicago and I've never had any problems when I did go.

From what I hear, Gang Bangers don't register their Guns and they never say "stick"em up". :grin:

Now ... back to Zim Zim :wink:

[Cigar]

That reminds me ... what was he doing in Texas ?

Blending in ... :laugh:

[exotix]

Blending in ... :laugh:

http://i43.tinypic.com/15nap87.gif

[ptif219]

You had your chance to take the country back ... with obstruction, high-treason and blackmail & extortion of the govt ... your time for honoring and glorifying yourself is coming to an end.

You are wrong that is what Obama has given us. You may find 2014 will be much like 2010. Obamacare may destroy the democrat power structure

[exotix]

You are wrong that is what Obama has given us. You may find 2014 will be much like 2010. Obamacare may destroy the democrat power structure

That's nice ... after the tea party failed in shutting down and defaulting the govt ... they simply said it was because Obama was trying to destoy conservatism ... they're not exactly wrong ... Obamacare will.

That is, if Cruz and his daddy doesn't destroy conservatism for you ... yeah Castro-communist Cruz daddy has now called evolution communism because you may have come from primates ...

I tell ya .. I ... http://i43.tinypic.com/15nap87.gif

[Codename Section]

That's nice ... after the tea party failed in shutting down and defaulting the govt ... they simply said it was because Obama was trying to destoy conservatism ... they're not exactly wrong ... Obamacare will.

That is, if Cruz and his daddy doesn't destroy conservatism for you ... yeah Castro-communist Cruz daddy has now called evolution communism because you may have come from primates ...

I tell ya .. I ... http://i43.tinypic.com/15nap87.gif

Wat?

[Codename Section]

You had your chance to take the country back ... with obstruction, high-treason and blackmail & extortion of the govt ... your time for honoring and glorifying yourself is coming to an end.

^^exactly what I believe that progressives all think deep down. And then they call the Tea Party extremists.

[The Xl]

Do these Constitutional scholars understand the concept of double jeopardy? Because they'd effectively be trying him for the same thing twice, even if laced up under a bullshit "different" pretense. These people are a joke.

Their is no way they'd be able to prove concretely that it was racially motivated, anyway.

[exotix]

Do these Constitutional scholars understand the concept of double jeopardy? Because they'd effectively be trying him for the same thing twice, even if laced up under a bullshit "different" pretense. These people are a joke.

Their is no way they'd be able to prove concretely that it was racially motivated, anyway.
Some truth to this ... in fact, Zimmy can continue to cap-off young bruthas and use his murder trial verdict as precedence for acquittal ... I think the thought crossed his mind when he assaulted his wife and her dad.

[The Xl]

Some truth to this ... in fact, Zimmy can continue to cap-off young bruthas and use his murder trial verdict as precedence for acquittal ... I think the thought crossed his mind when he assaulted his wife and her dad.

Lapierre did it

[exotix]

Lapierre did it

Well sort of ... he simply lobbys for the laws that says you can go out and murder and massacre with a gun as your 2nd Amendment Rights to Stand Your Ground.

[The Xl]

Well sort of ... he simply lobbys for the laws that says you can go out and murder and massacre with a gun as your 2nd Amendment Rights to Stand Your Ground.

I don't remember him advocating murder. Self defense, on the other hand.....

[exotix]

I don't remember him advocating murder. Self defense, on the other hand.....
He did ... when ?

[The Xl]

He did ... when ?

One of the primary reasons to own a firearm is self defense.

Now, you're the one who asserted that Lapierre supports gun rights for the purpose of going out and murdering people, specifically blacks, so the burden of proof is on you to prove that asinine statement.

[exotix]

One of the primary reasons to own a firearm is self defense.

Now, you're the one who asserted that Lapierre supports gun rights for the purpose of going out and murdering people, specifically blacks, so the burden of proof is on you to prove that asinine statement.

Oh, I was just curious when he said *the only way to stop a young brutha in a hoodie pack'n candy & soda is a good guy with a gun*

[The Xl]

Oh, I was just curious when he said *the only way to stop a young brutha in a hoodie pack'n candy & soda is a good guy with a gun*

I'm pretty sure you're twisting his words into something unrecognizable. Link please.

[exotix]

I'm pretty sure you're twisting his words into something unrecognizable. Link please.
Well this one looks like he was talking to Zimmy ... *why wait for the cops when you can cap-off a young brutha now*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aASfk-ii0BM

[The Xl]

Well this one looks like he was talking to Zimmy ... *why wait for the cops when you can cap-off a young brutha now*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aASfk-ii0BM

So your words were bullshit. I thought so. Zimmerman, Martin, and brothas were not said or implied in that clip. But like I asserted before, he is for the right to self defense.

[exotix]

So your words were bullshit. I thought so. Zimmerman, Martin, and brothas were not said or implied in that clip. But like I asserted before, he is for the right to self defense.

Like what do you mean ... here in this vid Lapierre says you can't wait for the cops a mile away while you're under attack now ...

And that's what Zimmy did.

[The Xl]

Like what do you mean ... here in this vid Lapierre says you can't wait for the cops a mile away while you're under attack now ...

And that's what Zimmy did.

Right. That's called self defense. Nowhere were those two specified by name, nowhere was the situation brought up, and nowhere were blacks said or insinuated.

You were just being full of shit, per usual.

[exotix]

Right. That's called self defense. Nowhere were those two specified by name, nowhere was the situation brought up, and nowhere were blacks said or insinuated.

You were just being full of shit, per usual.

Correct ... Zimmy was under attack ... and had to defend himself ...

http://i41.tinypic.com/a2dh5u.png

http://i43.tinypic.com/6dwr69.png

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[The Xl]

Correct ... Zimmy was under attack ... and had to defend himself ...

http://i41.tinypic.com/a2dh5u.png

http://i43.tinypic.com/6dwr69.png

http://i39.tinypic.com/t6waki.png

That was an unfortunate situation where we don't know all the facts. We don't know who started the fight, either. But without a firearm, Zimmerman could have been the one who died that night.

His testimony and the testimony of others didn't contain any contradictions though, so it is what it is.

[exotix]

That was an unfortunate situation where we don't know all the facts. We don't know who started the fight, either. But without a firearm, Zimmerman could have been the one who died that night.

His testimony and the testimony of others didn't contain any contradictions though, so it is what it is.
In other words I pwn'd your ass ... LOL.

[patrickt]

Wonderful. The lynch mob won't be denied and the racist Obi and Holdum will wade in. I would call them President Obama and AG Eric Holder but for some bizarre reason Exotix prefers peculiar cutsie names.

[ptif219]

That's nice ... after the tea party failed in shutting down and defaulting the govt ... they simply said it was because Obama was trying to destoy conservatism ... they're not exactly wrong ... Obamacare will.

That is, if Cruz and his daddy doesn't destroy conservatism for you ... yeah Castro-communist Cruz daddy has now called evolution communism because you may have come from primates ...

I tell ya .. I ... http://i43.tinypic.com/15nap87.gif

Obama and Reid shutdown the government

Why is Reid taking 2 weeks off at thanksgiving when he is doing nothing about the budget? It appears they plan on shutting it down again

[ptif219]

Some truth to this ... in fact, Zimmy can continue to cap-off young bruthas and use his murder trial verdict as precedence for acquittal ... I think the thought crossed his mind when he assaulted his wife and her dad.


You mean where it was the wife that took the property not George

[GrassrootsConservative]

Prosecuted for what?

Double Jeopardy:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardyDouble jeopardy is a procedural defence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedural_defence) that forbids a defendant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defendant) from being tried (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial) again on the same (or similar) charges following a legitimate acquittal or conviction. In common law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law) countries, a defendant may enter a peremptory plea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peremptory_plea) of autrefois acquit or autrefois convict (autrefois (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/autrefois) means "in the past" in French), meaning the defendant has been acquitted or convicted of the same offence.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardy#cite_note-Ben.C3.A9t1864p97-1)

Unless he has somehow bagged himself another drugged-up thug there's nothing he can be charged for. Holder and other uncountable numbers of Liberals don't know this because they're fucking uneducated.

[The Xl]

In other words I pwn'd your ass ... LOL.

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion after that exchange.

[ptif219]

Prosecuted for what?

Double Jeopardy:



Unless he has somehow bagged himself another drugged-up thug there's nothing he can be charged for. Holder and other uncountable numbers of Liberals don't know this because they're fucking uneducated.



Holder has some trumped up civil rights charge in mind

http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/administration/189207-holder-won%E2%80%99t-rule-out-federal-charges-against-george-zimmerman


U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday said the Justice Department has not decided whether to file federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman in the 2012 killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman, a volunteer neighborhood watchman who shot and killed Martin in an incident that captured national interest, was acquitted of murder charges in July. But the Justice Department could still pursue a federal civil rights case.

Holder said the agency’s investigation is under way.
“I'm not sure exactly how much longer that will take, but we will get to a point where we are able to make a determination,” he told reporters at an unrelated news conference at the agency’s headquarters.

Holder, during an April speech to the Rev. Al Sharpton’s National Action Network, pledged to “take appropriate action” if the agency finds evidence of a potential federal civil rights crime in the Zimmerman case.

However, he has since cautioned that the Justice Department faces a “very high barrier” in pursuing federal criminal charges in such cases.

On Monday, he noted that the courts had already weighed in Zimmerman’s case.

"The case of George Zimmerman — and what happens there — I think a substantial part was resolved in the case that was tried," Holder said.

[GrassrootsConservative]

Holder has some trumped up civil rights charge in mind

http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/administration/189207-holder-won’t-rule-out-federal-charges-against-george-zimmerman

Still double jeopardy, anything that has anything to do with the moments George Zimmerman defended himself from Thugvon Martin (that he was found not guilty of) is double jeopardy. He has been tried for it and was found not guilty in a court of LAW.

I would love to have some words with Holder.

/edit: (Same link)


The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution) provides:
[N]or shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb . . . ."[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardy#cite_note-fifth_amendment_double_jeopardy-43)The Double Jeopardy Clause encompasses four distinct prohibitions: subsequent prosecution after acquittal, subsequent prosecution after conviction, subsequent prosecution after certain mistrials, and multiple punishment in the same indictment.[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardy#cite_note-44) Jeopardy "attaches" when the jury is empanelled, the first witness is sworn, or a plea is accepted.[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardy#cite_note-45)


Too bad Liberals don't respect the constitution.

[zelmo1234]

Great. That's an awesome use of tax dollars. Prosecute Zimmerman, prosecute reporters, don't prosecute HSBC for money laundering....awesome.

You guys are too cool. Really.

No, No, NO! let them go at this.

It has always been apparent that Democrats hate Hispanics, (they tend to work hard and liberals hate that) this will show the Hispanic community that the Democrats are only their friend if they are doing as they are told.

Don't believe me, look at what they try and o to conservative Minorities and Women?

[zelmo1234]

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion after that exchange.

See you have forgotten the Bolden rule

A liberal has spoken! So let it be written, so let it be done! And this ends the discussion, there will be no facts or reality that will change the liberals mine.

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder!

[nathanbforrest45]

You had your chance to take the country back ... with obstruction, high-treason and blackmail & extortion of the govt ... your time for honoring and glorifying yourself is coming to an end.

From 1932 to 1952 the White House was held by the Democratic Party, In 1952 the country finally returned to its senses and elected a somewhat conservative Republicans. Do you really think your party can continue to sink the country further and further into a Depression and the country won't finally wise up and throw your asses out? Remember what happened after Jimma Cawder, 12 years of Republican Rule. 12 years of relative prosperity. Certainly better than we are seeing today. If you look at the statistics of 2008 vs 2012 I can't understand how anyone with an ounce of brains in their head can continue to support the Socialist Democrats. You would have to be brain dead or worse.

[nathanbforrest45]

Wat?
She doesn't know. She read that on the bottom of a toilet seat in the bus station.

[nathanbforrest45]

I have to disagree on the double jeopardy issue. Remember Rodney King and the two trials for the police officers who were acquitted and then tried again and ended up in jail. Liberals do not believe in the Constitution or the concept of double jeopardy. If they have deemed you guilty, by God you are guilty and no matter how many times you are exonerate in a court of law you are guilty.