Reuters take on Virginia

[Alyosha]

Interesting


In Virginian, former Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe was elected governor, largely with the support of the heavily populated Washington suburbs that were hard hit by the government shutdown.


McAuliffe's campaign had held up rival Ken Cuccinelli, the state's attorney general, as a symbol of the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party, seen by many voters as responsible for the shutdown, which economists said took a $24 billion bite out of the U.S. economy (http://www.reuters.com/finance/economy?lc=int_mb_1001).


Cuccinelli's loss could be seen as a setback for the Tea Party movement, which swept a wave of right-wing lawmakers into Congress in 2010 and has been seeking to extend its legislative influence in next year's congressional elections.


But Cuccinelli, a social conservative, carried the state's more rural southern and western districts, and his bid was undercut by a Libertarian candidate who won nearly 7 percent of the vote - much more than McAuliffe's margin of victory, according to results with most votes counted.


Cuccinelli surged late in the campaign, seeking to tie McAuliffe to Obamacare, which has been plagued with technical difficulties since its October 1 launch.


The close race reflected the political split in Virginia, which Obama won in both his presidential races but which elected a Republican governor four years ago.




In liberal New York City, Bill de Blasio, the city's public advocate, crushed Republican Joseph Lhota, running on a platform to bring the "two New Yorks" of rich and poor closer together.


The White House said Obama called McAuliffe, de Blasio and Boston Mayor-elect Martin Walsh, also a Democrat, to congratulate them on their victories.


NATIONAL ATTENTION

The hotly contested Virginia race drew intense national interest and more out-of-state funding than any gubernatorial contest in the state's history.


Top stars of the Democratic Party campaigned for McAuliffe in the final weeks, including Obama, former President Bill Clinton and his wife Hillary Clinton, a former secretary of state and likely 2016 White House contender. Conservative Republicans including Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal stumped for Cuccinelli.


Analysts warned that the results in Virginia and the Northeastern state of New Jersey were unlikely to be indicative of congressional and governors' races next year in more conservative sections of the country.


"You have to be careful only in that these are state elections. It's not surprising that in New Jersey, the preference of a Republican would be a moderate Republican," said Julian Zelizer, a professor of history at Princeton University and the author of 2012's "Governing America: The Revival of Political History."




http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/06/us-usa-politics-elections-idUSBRE9A504T20131106



The Democrats outspent the Republicans, they outspent the Libertarians and they squeaked in. There is no mandate in Virginia.

[Captain Obvious]

yes that is

[Blackrook]

New Yorkers are going to regret electing de Blasio and it won't even take that long. And my guess is, a lot of rich New Yorkers will move out of the city.

[patrickt]

Reuters can expect to have their phones tapped by the DOJ and their taxes audited by the IRS.

[Cigar]

New Yorkers are going to regret electing de Blasio and it won't even take that long. And my guess is, a lot of rich New Yorkers will move out of the city.

Isn't that what losers always say? :wink:

[Cigar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T8ogCRAPhYY

GAME - SET - MATCH

[Alyosha]

Like you know anything about Virginia...

Anyway


Libertarian Robert Sarvis Pulls 6.6 Percent in Virginia Governor’s Race, Almost Five Times Better Than Gary Johnson Last November (http://reason.com/blog/2013/11/06/libertarian-robert-sarvis-pulls-66-perce) Ed Krayewski (http://reason.com/people/ed-krayewski/all)|Nov. 6, 2013 12:04 am
http://cloudfront-media.reason.com/mc/ekrayewski/2013_11/robertsarvis_robertsarvis.jpg?h=188&w=250Sarvis campaignIn a race where he was polling with a double-digit lead only last week (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-opens-up-double-digit-lead-over-cuccinelli-in-virginia-governors-race/2013/10/28/e81e2fb0-3c43-11e3-b6a9-da62c264f40e_story.html), Democrat Terry McAuliffe won (http://reason.com/24-7/2013/11/05/mccauliffe-projected-winner-in-virginia) the Virginia governor’s race in a squeaker tonight, with a margin of victory of just over (http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=SWR&map=CTY) 2 percent, receiving 47.6 percent to Republican Ken Cuccinelli’s 45.42 percent. For libertarians the bigger news might be that Libertarian candidate Robert Sarvis pulled 6.6 percent, or more than 142,000 votes, five times the vote total Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson won last November, despite a significantly lower turnout. Democrats tried to make (http://reason.com/24-7/2013/11/04/democrats-trying-to-make-virginia-govern) the election against Cuccinelli a referendum on “Tea Party extremists,” and by that measure they lost, Cuccinelli’s margin of defeat being about two-thirds the size of Mitt Romney’s last year.




http://reason.com/blog/2013/11/06/libertarian-robert-sarvis-pulls-66-perce


I'm really excited about this. Everything I've read and heard said that Virginias were by and large not impressed by either candidate. When that happens people usually stay home, but instead they came out to vote for Sarvis to the tune of 142,000. Rather than just give up they voted.

http://www.wmal.com/common/page.php?feed=102&pt=LISTEN%3A+Virginians+Say+They+Are+Not+Excited+A bout+Either+Gubernatorial+Candidate&id=52903&is_corp=0

[patrickt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T8ogCRAPhYY

GAME - SET - MATCH

And Cigar's chosen one got less than half the vote but he did get more votes than Obamacare.

[patrickt]

Isn't that what losers always say? :wink:

Not really. You pretend you won something with the nitwit in the White House but you're a loser and I never hear you say that.

[Blackrook]

Well, less than half the people of Virginia voted for McAuliffe so this hardly a ringing endorsement of Obamacare.

[jillian]

Interesting




http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/06/us-usa-politics-elections-idUSBRE9A504T20131106



The Democrats outspent the Republicans, they outspent the Libertarians and they squeaked in. There is no mandate in Virginia.

are you complaining that more people gave money to mcauliffe? okie dokie... because you aren't complaining that the koch's gave 8 million to cuccinelli. are you complaining that mcauliffe used that money to outspend cuccinelli? okie dokie... because i don't recall hearing any of those concerns about any of the far right candidates astro-turfed by the "tea party".

you're complaining you lost. okay.. though why someone who hates government and who doesn't vote cares about which party's candidate wins is beyond me.

finally, you seem a bit selective in what you chose to emphasize...

so here's what your link really does emphasize:

In Virginian, former Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe was elected governor, largely with the support of the heavily populated Washington suburbs that were hard hit by the government shutdown.


McAuliffe's campaign had held up rival Ken Cuccinelli, the state's attorney general, as a symbol of the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party, seen by many voters as responsible for the shutdown, which economists said took a $24 billion bite out of the U.S. economy (http://www.reuters.com/finance/economy?lc=int_mb_1001).


Cuccinelli's loss could be seen as a setback for the Tea Party movement, which swept a wave of right-wing lawmakers into Congress in 2010 and has been seeking to extend its legislative influence in next year's congressional elections.

[jillian]

the SHUTDOWN, @Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)... the SHUTDOWN ... your guy would have won but for the SHUTDOWN. Thank heaven for right wing overreach because cuccinelli is best left as far away from government as possible.


interestingly, they don't seem to be mentioning that cuccinelli also had one of the worst gender gaps of any race... and with good cause.

[patrickt]

Jillian, have you ever once posted a source for your bullshit or do you really expect people to believe it. Obviously, by people I don't mean Cigar, Ravi, or Nic. They'll believe anything liberal.

Perhaps you simply don't know how. This took about three minutes to find because I wanted a whacko left-wing source.
"Cuccinelli for Governor has already received a $50,000 contribution from a Koch controlled corporation and $35,000 from Koch Industries directly. Koch Industries has also contributed $7.500 to Cuccinelli for Attorney General and Cuccinelli for Senate received $2,250. [Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/ken-cuccinelli-koch-brothers_n_2482708.html), Cuccinelli for Governor VPAP (http://www.vpap.org/donors/profile/money_out_details/131937?committee_id=3540&end_year=2013&period=2012-2013&start_year=1996), Cuccinelli for Attorney General VPAP (http://www.vpap.org/donors/profile/money_out_details/131937?committee_id=2038&end_year=2013&start_year=1996), Cuccinelli for Senate VPAP (http://www.vpap.org/donors/profile/money_out_details/131937?committee_id=2311&end_year=2013&start_year=1996)]

Between 2003 and 2010, the Koch brothers, their companies, and their employees made political contributions of $273,402 in Virginia. [Center for American Progress (http://www.americanprogressaction.org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2011/04/pdf/koch_brothers.pdf)]
- See more at: http://www.progressva.org/2013/05/cuccinellis-koch-party.html#sthash.XzKbaxLk.dpuf
http://www.progressva.org/2013/05/cuccinellis-koch-party.html

Now, would you like to find a source showing another $7,925,000 from the Koch Brothes to Mr. Cuccinelli? No, I didn't think so. But, I'll bet you can find a five-year old neighbor who can show you how to do a search using Google or Bing or even another search engine. Perhaps George Soros have funded a search engine called "dementedDems".

[Codename Section]

the SHUTDOWN, @Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)... the SHUTDOWN ... your guy would have won but for the SHUTDOWN.
jillian

are you saying Sarvis would have won? Or are you being full of shit about Alyosha and Cuccinelli again? :D

[AmazonTania]

Might as well have said the economy was doing just fine before the shutdown as well...

[Alyosha]

are you complaining that more people gave money to mcauliffe? okie dokie... because you aren't complaining that the koch's gave 8 million to cuccinelli. are you complaining that mcauliffe used that money to outspend cuccinelli? okie dokie... because i don't recall hearing any of those concerns about any of the far right candidates astro-turfed by the "tea party".
jillian

I am going to ask politely.

Please quit making up lies about who I allegedly voted for. I am not a Cuccinelli supporter because I defend him against partisan truthiness. I hate truth stretching and I am starting to hate progressives if this is what I have to deal with.

[Ravi]

@jillian (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=719)

I am going to ask politely.

Please quit making up lies about who I allegedly voted for. I am not a Cuccinelli supporter because I defend him against partisan truthiness. I hate truth stretching and I am starting to hate progressives if this is what I have to deal with.:rolleyes: You should look in the mirror.

[nathanbforrest45]

New Yorkers are going to regret electing de Blasio and it won't even take that long. And my guess is, a lot of rich New Yorkers will move out of the city.

I read that 80% of the tax in NYC is paid by only 20,000 people. This is out of a population of 8 million. What would happen if half of that 20,000 moved to New Hampshire or Florida? They need to read and reread the story of the Golden Goose.