Republicans are even stupider than imagined, to disenfranchise own voters

[Cigar]

90-year-old Jim Wright, the former speaker of the House, was prevented from voting because of this requirement, one which disproportionately affects seniors with lapsed IDs.

Now consider this, from the 2012 presidential national exit polls:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/56290/large/exits-age.jpg

What kind of moron party disenfranchises its most reliable voters? And not just seniors, who make up a massive proportion of non-presidential year turnout. Married women too. And guess how married women vote?


http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/56291/large/Exits-married.png

So Republicans, in their zeal to disenfranchise brown and young people, have created a voter ID law that solves a non-existent problem and subsequently disenfranchises two of their most important base groups.

We knew the GOP was stupid. This notches it up to a whole new level.

[Codename Section]

That's from last year...

I'm sure that it's going to be even better when people GC and XLs age pay Obamacare. Young men love paying out extra money. I don't have to because I have Tricare. Did I mention that?

hahahahah I have Tricare!

Oh, Cigar...I painted this for you:


http://wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/giclee_fallout_unicorn.jpg

I didn't paint it. Heheheheheh

[Agravan]

Oh, @Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294)...I painted this for you:


http://wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/giclee_fallout_unicorn.jpg

I didn't paint it. Heheheheheh

Well THAT'S going up on the ceiling over Cigar's bed.
Better have lots of these, Cigar...
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4561746103829603&w=138&h=165&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7 and
this
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4674076681439645&pid=1.9&m=&w=300&h=300&p=0you'll be needing lots of both.

[Cigar]

That's from last year...

I'm sure that it's going to be even better when people GC and XLs age pay Obamacare. Young men love paying out extra money. I don't have to because I have Tricare. Did I mention that?

hahahahah I have Tricare!

Oh, @Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294)...I painted this for you:


http://wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/giclee_fallout_unicorn.jpg

I didn't paint it. Heheheheheh

Whatever helps you cope with losing :laugh:

[Alyosha]

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1460013_10152030573186489_335669360_n.jpg

[patrickt]

Sorry, Cigar, but the only disenfranchising going on would be with the military and the guilty party are the liberals. Not wanting dead people to vote or foreign nationals to vote or paid thugs to coerce the elderly into signing already completed absentee ballots would not, by a rational person, be considered disenfranchising anyone.

[Alyosha]

My favorite candid of Obama

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/assets/Obama in Wonderland.png

[Peter1469]

90-year-old Jim Wright, the former speaker of the House, was prevented from voting because of this requirement, one which disproportionately affects seniors with lapsed IDs.

Now consider this, from the 2012 presidential national exit polls:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/56290/large/exits-age.jpg

What kind of moron party disenfranchises its most reliable voters? And not just seniors, who make up a massive proportion of non-presidential year turnout. Married women too. And guess how married women vote?


http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/56291/large/Exits-married.png

So Republicans, in their zeal to disenfranchise brown and young people, have created a voter ID law that solves a non-existent problem and subsequently disenfranchises two of their most important base groups.

We knew the GOP was stupid. This notches it up to a whole new level.

Do you have a link?

[Cigar]

Do you have a link?

Exit Poll Data is so abundant, you just might trip over it is you're not careful :laugh:

[Cigar]

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1460013_10152030573186489_335669360_n.jpg

40+ Votes Later ... and Conservative are laughing ... well ... that explains their success :smiley_ROFLMAO:

[Peter1469]

Exit Poll Data is so abundant, you just might trip over it is you're not careful :laugh:


I asked for a link for a reason. The cut and paste that you posted wasn't created by you. It shouldn't be hard for you to provide us the link where you got it from. :wink:

[KC]

I asked for a link for a reason. The cut and paste that you posted wasn't created by you. It shouldn't be hard for you to provide us the link where you got it from. :wink:

I'll help him out, this time:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/05/1253293/-Republicans-even-stupider-than-imagined-disenfranchise-own-voters#

[Professor Peabody]

90-year-old Jim Wright, the former speaker of the House, was prevented from voting because of this requirement, one which disproportionately affects seniors with lapsed IDs.

Now consider this, from the 2012 presidential national exit polls:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/56290/large/exits-age.jpg

What kind of moron party disenfranchises its most reliable voters? And not just seniors, who make up a massive proportion of non-presidential year turnout. Married women too. And guess how married women vote?


http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/56291/large/Exits-married.png

So Republicans, in their zeal to disenfranchise brown and young people, have created a voter ID law that solves a non-existent problem and subsequently disenfranchises two of their most important base groups.

We knew the GOP was stupid. This notches it up to a whole new level.

Ah those were the days Cigar eh? Before the crash and burn of Obama Care that has Obama groveling and crying for some sort of forgiveness from the millions that are losing their health insurance after Obama promised countless times it wouldn't happen. Millions of voters, including Democrats, Independents and women voters not just hearing about something going on in Washington but living the Democrat screw job called Obama Care. They are so done at the mid-term.

[Professor Peabody]

I'll help him out, this time:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/05/1253293/-Republicans-even-stupider-than-imagined-disenfranchise-own-voters#

The Daily KOS(sacks), there's a real reliable source...:rollseyes:

[jillian]

Ah those were the days Cigar eh? Before the crash and burn of Obama Care that has Obama groveling and crying for some sort of forgiveness for the millions that are losing their health insurance after Obama promised countless times it wouldn't happen. Millions of voters, including Democrats, Independents and women voters not just hearing about something going on in Washington but living the Democrat screw job called Obama Care. They are so done at the mid-term.

blah blah blah blah blah... obamacare... blah blah blah blah blah.... benghazzzzzzzzzzzziiiiiii.... blah blah blah blah blah....

Inside the Fox News lie machine: I fact-checked Sean Hannity on Obamacare (http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fox_news_lie_machine_i_fact_checked_sea n_hannity_on_obamacare/)


First I spoke with Paul Cox of Leicester, N.C. He and his wife Michelle had lamented to Hannity that because of Obamacare, they can’t grow their construction business and they have kept their employees below a certain number of hours, so that they are part-timers.
Obamacare has no effect on businesses with 49 employees or less. But in our brief conversation on the phone, Paul revealed that he has only four employees. Why the cutback on his workforce? “Well,” he said, “I haven’t been forced to do so, it’s just that I’ve chosen to do so. I have to deal with increased costs.” What costs? And how, I asked him, is any of it due to Obamacare? There was a long pause, after which he said he’d call me back. He never did.
There is only one Obamacare requirement that applies to a company of this size: workers must be notified of the existence of the “healthcare.gov (http://healthcare.gov/)” website, the insurance exchange. That’s all.


Next I called Allison Denijs. She’d told Hannity that she pays over $13,000 a year in premiums. Like the other guests, she said she had recently gotten a letter from Blue Cross saying that her policy was being terminated and a new, ACA-compliant policy would take its place. She says this shows that Obama lied when he promised Americans that we could keep our existing policies.
Allison’s husband left his job a few years ago, one with benefits at a big company, to start his own business. Since then they’ve been buying insurance on the open market, and are now paying around $1,100 a month for a policy with a $2,500 deductible per family member, with hefty annual premium hikes. One of their two children is not covered under the policy. She has a preexisting condition that would require purchasing additional coverage for $600 a month, which would bring the family’s grand total to around $20,000 a year.
I asked Allison if she’d shopped on the exchange, to see what a plan might cost under the new law. She said she hadn’t done so because she’d heard the website was not working. Would she try it out when it’s up and running? Perhaps, she said. She told me she has long opposed Obamacare, and that the president should have focused on tort reform as a solution to bringing down the price of healthcare.


I tried an experiment and shopped on the exchange for Allison and Kurt. Assuming they don’t smoke and have a household income too high to be eligible for subsidies, I found that they would be able to get a plan for around $7,600, which would include coverage for their uninsured daughter. This would be about a 60 percent reduction from what they would have to pay on the pre-Obamacare market.
Allison also told me that the letter she received from Blue Cross said that in addition to the policy change for ACA compliance, in the new policy her physician network size might be reduced. That’s something insurance companies do to save money, with or without Obamacare on the horizon, just as they raise premiums with or without Obamacare coming.
If Allison’s choice of doctor was denied her through Obamacare then, yes, she could have a claim that Obamacare has hurt her. But she’d also have thousands of dollars in her pocket that she didn’t have before.
Finally, I called Robbie and Tina Robison from Franklin, Tenn. Robbie is self-employed as a Christian youth motivational speaker. (You can see his work here (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MDKFgmnL4y0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMDKFgmnL4y0).) On Hannity, the couple said that they, too, were recently notified that their Blue Cross policy would be expiring for lack of ACA compliance. They told Hannity that the replacement plans Blue Cross was offering would come with a rate increase of 50 percent or even 75 percent, and that the new offerings would contain all sorts of benefits they don’t need, like maternity care, pediatric care, prenatal care and so forth. Their kids are grown and moved out, so why should they be forced to pay extra for a health plan with superfluous features?
When I spoke to Robbie, he said he and Tina have been paying a little over $800 a month for their plan, about $10,000 a year. And the ACA-compliant policy that will cost 50-75 percent more? They said this information was related to them by their insurance agent.
Had they shopped on the exchange yet, I asked? No, Tina said, nor would they. They oppose Obamacare and want nothing to do with it. Fair enough, but they should know that I found a plan for them for, at most, $3,700 a year, 63 percent less than their current bill. It might cover things that they don’t need, but so does every insurance policy.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/18/inside_the_fox_news_lie_machine_i_fact_checked_sea n_hannity_on_obamacare/

[Professor Peabody]

Obama's all over the news apologizing for the millions of voters losing their health care. In 2010 Democrats got shellacked for a loss of 69 seats in Congress after passing Obama Care. Now 3.5 million have received health insurance cancellation notices so far, only to have to buy into the high deductible outrageous yearly out of pocket exchange plans. This isn't something that people are just hearing about, it's crashlanding in their monthly budgets. It doesn't take a weatherman to tell which way the voting winds will blow in Nov 2014 with 21 Senate Democrat seats up.

[jillian]

Obama's all over the news apologizing for the millions of voters losing their health care. In 2010 Democrats got shellacked for a loss of 69 seats in Congress after passing Obama Care. Now 3.5 million have received health insurance cancellation notices so far, only to have to buy into the high deductible outrageous yearly out of pocket exchange plans. This isn't something that people are just hearing about, it's crashlanding in their monthly budgets. It doesn't take a weatherman to tell which way the voting winds will blow in Nov 2014 with 21 Senate Democrat seats up.

first of all, he isn't "apologizing" the way you think he is.

perhaps you should worry more about the women's vote because there's been almost zero change in approval for the law, except for a slight uptick after the loons threw their temper tantrum.

[Cigar]

Obama's all over the news apologizing for the millions of voters losing their health care. In 2010 Democrats got shellacked for a loss of 69 seats in Congress after passing Obama Care. Now 3.5 million have received health insurance cancellation notices so far, only to have to buy into the high deductible outrageous yearly out of pocket exchange plans. This isn't something that people are just hearing about, it's crashlanding in their monthly budgets. It doesn't take a weatherman to tell which way the voting winds will blow in Nov 2014 with 21 Senate Democrat seats up.

Nothing wrong with an apology ... March is a really really really really really really really long time from today :grin:

Any idea how long that is in TeaBagger Years?

[Professor Peabody]

first of all, he isn't "apologizing" the way you think he is.

perhaps you should worry more about the women's vote because there's been almost zero change in approval for the law, except for a slight uptick after the loons threw their temper tantrum.

First..........

As you may know, a bill that makes major changes to the country's health care system became law in 2010. Based on what you have read or heard about that legislation, do you generally favor or generally oppose it?

Sept. 27 - 29 2013

Favor 38%
Oppose 57%
No opinion 4%

Mar 19 - 21 2010

Favor 39%
Oppose 59%
No opinion 2%

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/09/30/rel10a.pdf

I'm not worried about that at all, it's single Mom's that are going to get the worst hosing by Obama Care, at least in California.

http://nebula.wsimg.com/20810150c616114ded2a7c345e8ddff9?AccessKeyId=77DBD 65C34B8F60DAFA2&disposition=0

Say a kid takes a bad spill off a skate board while Mom is at work around and he's down on the ground. A passerby calls 911. The ambulance ($250) picks him up and off to the Emergency Room ($250) he goes. They call Mom and she goes flying down there. She get there and the Doctor sends him off for an X-Ray ($65). Nothing broken show up, but he's in a lot of pain so off for an MRI ($250) so they can see the extent of the soft tissue damage. He pulled a tendon, give 'em a brace and some crutches and off to the Pharmacy for the pain meds ($25). So lets see how this breaks down. This month she's paid $XXX premium, and $840 out of pocket. Of the $840 on the check she just wrote $315 reduces her yearly deductible, but does not apply to her yearly out of pocket. The other $525 are not subject to any deductible and does count toward her yearly out of pocket $12,600. These are the California Plans which are quite generous. Hope Mom's got a good job........

[Professor Peabody]

Nothing wrong with an apology ... March is a really really really really really really really long time from today :grin:

Any idea how long that is in TeaBagger Years?

March? I'm talking about the 2014 mid-term. While a year seems like a long way away, folks will be getting screwed by Obama Cares high deductibles and outrageous yearly out of pocket costs. That my friend will last the whole year starting in Jan.