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exotix
11-15-2013, 02:04 PM
Just In


After blowing the head off of a young black woman who sought help after her car was in an accident ... Theodore Paul Wafer has been charged with murder ...



Homeowner in Renisha McBride's killing to face murder charge

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/15/21476808-homeowner-in-renisha-mcbrides-killing-to-face-murder-charge?lite

Wayne County prosecutor Kym Worthy announced three charges against the homeowner — 54-year-old Theodore Paul Wafer — on Friday, the most serious of which was murder in the second degree.





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exotix
11-15-2013, 02:08 PM
Watch Courtroom Live ~ http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/53563238/


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nathanbforrest45
11-15-2013, 02:10 PM
well he's been charged. Obviously he is guilty. Don't waste money on a trial, just hang the bastard.

exotix
11-15-2013, 02:14 PM
Theodore Paul Wafer confers with attorneys

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exotix
11-15-2013, 02:16 PM
Bond hearing in progress .. looks like the only criminal record is a DUI ...

exotix
11-15-2013, 02:20 PM
Bail set at $250,000 ...

Alyosha
11-15-2013, 02:20 PM
Wayne County? This should be interesting.

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:25 PM
well he's been charged. Obviously he is guilty. Don't waste money on a trial, just hang the bastard.

Better yet ... let's just go right to Victimizing the Slut who had the audacity to look for help ...

I wouldn't be surprised if she was waring a Hoodie ... that Good for nothing Bitch.

Mister D
11-15-2013, 02:30 PM
I'm sure Exotix and Cigar would be bawling if she had been killed by a black man which, BTW, is far more common. Puhleeese. Renisha who?

Alyosha
11-15-2013, 02:35 PM
better yet ... Let's just go right to victimizing the slut who had the audacity to look for help ...

I wouldn't be surprised if she was waring a hoodie ... That good for nothing bitch.

wtf?

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:36 PM
I'm sure Exotix and Cigar would be bawling if she had been killed by a black man which, BTW, is far more common. Puhleeese. Renisha who?


Trust me McD ... if a White Woman comes knocking on a Black Man door a night, that shot in her Face won't Kill Her :wink:

Mister D
11-15-2013, 02:37 PM
wtf?

They couldn't care less about some dead black girl. It's all about an agenda.

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:38 PM
wtf?

Calm down ... it's sarcasm, back taste sarcasm.

The Xl
11-15-2013, 02:39 PM
Oh lawd, more not so hidden race baiting.

The Xl
11-15-2013, 02:39 PM
wtf?

He never makes any sense, so I'm not sure why you're surprised.

I think him and exotix are half brothers.

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:40 PM
They couldn't care less about some dead black girl. It's all about an agenda.

I just thought it would be nice to real you in one more time before the weekend.

Dam are you easy

Alyosha
11-15-2013, 02:40 PM
Dearborn is where all the gilded liberals fled to escape black Detroit and po white trash. Ask anyone from Michigan. They were probably scared shitless and thought blacks had finally started escaping the city for the countryside. Liberals love blacks in Michigan unless they want to like, ya know, hang out and shit.

Dearborn had some of the most historically racist laws and covenants in all of the US. It beat Mississippi hands down.

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:41 PM
He never makes any sense, so I'm not sure why you're surprised.

I think him and exotix are half brothers.

I'm All 100% Grade-A Brother :wink: sport :laugh:

Mister D
11-15-2013, 02:42 PM
I just thought it would be nice to real you in one more time before the weekend.

Dam are you easy

I'm not sure what more pathetic: your lame race baiting or your lame attempts to save face after you're called out for it.

Captain Obvious
11-15-2013, 02:43 PM
I'm not sure what more pathetic: your lame race baiting or your lame attempts to save face after you're called out for it.

That's bull shit!

:afro:

jillian
11-15-2013, 02:43 PM
Better yet ... let's just go right to Victimizing the Slut who had the audacity to look for help ...

I wouldn't be surprised if she was waring a Hoodie ... that Good for nothing Bitch.


yes, because if a black woman comes to your door asking for help, certainly she must deserve to be shot in the back of the head. he was only standing his ground.

Alyosha
11-15-2013, 02:43 PM
I'm All 100% Grade-A Brother :wink: sport :laugh:

Oh yeh? Let's test this Cigar

Orange pop or Coca cola?

Ketschup or mayonaise?

Marvin Gaye was killed by who?

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:43 PM
Dearborn is where all the gilded liberals fled to escape black Detroit and po white trash. Ask anyone from Michigan. They were probably scared shitless and thought blacks had finally started escaping the city for the countryside. Liberals love blacks in Michigan unless they want to like, ya know, hang out and shit.

Dearborn had some of the most historically racist laws and covenants in all of the US. It beat Mississippi hands down.

Don't forget, Albern Hills is just a stones throw away from Pontiac :laugh:

Alyosha
11-15-2013, 02:44 PM
Don't forget, Albern Hills is just a stones throw away from Pontiac :laugh:

Pontiac is about as depressing as Flint. About.

The Xl
11-15-2013, 02:45 PM
I'm All 100% Grade-A Brother :wink: sport :laugh:

Step brothers then?

jillian
11-15-2013, 02:45 PM
wtf?

i'd think you'd get his sarcasm :)

Captain Obvious
11-15-2013, 02:47 PM
Step brothers then?

Separated at birth

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:47 PM
Oh yeh? Let's test this @Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294)

Orange pop or Coca cola?

Ketschup or mayonaise?

Marvin Gaye was killed by who?


Kentucky Bourbon or Whiskey

Dijon Mustard

Earth Wind and Fire

:grin:

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:48 PM
Step brothers then?

I don't need help

Alyosha
11-15-2013, 02:50 PM
Kentucky Bourbon or Whiskey

Dijon Mustard

Earth Wind and Fire

:grin:

gtfo with Chicago shit. Marvin Gaye was the deal.

And it's Better Made chips and Red Pop ftw.

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:53 PM
gtfo with Chicago shit. Marvin Gaye was the deal.

And it's Better Made chips and Red Pop ftw.

Pop ... isn't that a Northern thing and Soda is a Southern thing?

Matty
11-15-2013, 02:54 PM
I'm sure Exotix and Cigar would be bawling if she had been killed by a black man which, BTW, is far more common. Puhleeese. Renisha who?


You wouldn't hear a peep outta them.

The Xl
11-15-2013, 02:55 PM
I don't need help

Just curious. Cause you post the same stuff with the same incoherent style of writing.

Alyosha
11-15-2013, 02:56 PM
Pop ... isn't that a Northern thing and Soda is a Southern thing?

It is a midwest thing. Faygo Red Pop plus ice cream is heaven.

http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/2/3/4/5/2/webimg/3785038.jpg



And if you get up to Detroit...I swear by these

http://www.thevernorsstore.com/productimages/large/1297635852933194061_L.GIF

Mister D
11-15-2013, 02:56 PM
You wouldn't hear a peep outta them.

Right

Cigar
11-15-2013, 02:58 PM
You wouldn't hear a peep outta them.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBoYzW2tX5s_9TfLQwl4PrNLHWAtjuV dlv1ChfmJKpZwu0ZPOICxFfIiUX

Do you have any idea how big his hands are and where they have been? :grin:

Matty
11-15-2013, 03:00 PM
yes, because if a black woman comes to your door asking for help, certainly she must deserve to be shot in the back of the head. he was only standing his ground.



It really scares me that you represent people in court. I hope you're not a defense attorney cause the article says




The Wayne County medical examiner's office ruled her death was a homicide, finding she received a fatal shotgun blast to the face, fired from a distance.

Mister D
11-15-2013, 03:01 PM
It really scares me that you represent people in court. I hope you're not a defense attorney cause the article says




The Wayne County medical examiner's office ruled her death was a homicide, finding she received a fatal shotgun blast to the face, fired from a distance.

Damn! That must have been ugly.

Cigar
11-15-2013, 03:01 PM
It is a midwest thing. Faygo Red Pop plus ice cream is heaven.

http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/2/3/4/5/2/webimg/3785038.jpg



And if you get up to Detroit...I swear by these

http://www.thevernorsstore.com/productimages/large/1297635852933194061_L.GIF

I have to remember that, I have a customer near The great Lakes Golf Complex

Mister D
11-15-2013, 03:02 PM
Does he tip you well? :grin:

Cigar
11-15-2013, 03:02 PM
It really scares me that you represent people in court. I hope you're not a defense attorney cause the article says




The Wayne County medical examiner's office ruled her death was a homicide, finding she received a fatal shotgun blast to the face, fired from a distance.

That is some good shooting in the dark

Cigar
11-15-2013, 03:03 PM
Does he tip you well? :grin:

Yes he does ... well :wink:

Mister D
11-15-2013, 03:04 PM
Yes he does ... well :wink:

I'm sure he does. Who else would waste money on a caddy? lol

The Wash
11-15-2013, 03:30 PM
It is a midwest thing. Faygo Red Pop plus ice cream is heaven.

http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/2/3/4/5/2/webimg/3785038.jpg



And if you get up to Detroit...I swear by these

http://www.thevernorsstore.com/productimages/large/1297635852933194061_L.GIF


I could tear up a bag of Better Made Red Hots!

The Wash
11-15-2013, 03:35 PM
Michigan is a fucked up place best to stay far from. No way should Renisha have rolled up on some house in Dearborn. I'd have kept on running down the street.

shaarona
11-15-2013, 03:41 PM
Michigan is a fucked up place best to stay far from. No way should Renisha have rolled up on some house in Dearborn. I'd have kept on running down the street.

Come on .. what sort of grown man with a shotgun would fire on a girl on his porch??

For that matter.. what sort of grown woman would do that?

The Wash
11-15-2013, 03:45 PM
Come on .. what sort of grown man with a shotgun would fire on a girl on his porch??

For that matter.. what sort of grown woman would do that?

Look up Michigan and satanists, Michigan and violence, Michigan and racial tension, Michigan and extremism, Michigan and crazy folk.

This aint some damn Smallville we're talking about here. This is outside of Detroit. To answer your question, plenty! Renisha should have kept running.

shaarona
11-15-2013, 03:46 PM
Look up Michigan and satanists, Michigan and violence, Michigan and racial tension, Michigan and extremism, Michigan and crazy folk.

This aint some damn Smallville we're talking about here. This is outside of Detroit. To answer your question, plenty! Renisha should have kept running.

Well then this human clot should be tried for murder 2.

The Wash
11-15-2013, 03:49 PM
Well then this human clot should be tried for murder 2.

Michigan is a strange place. So is all that northern woody area. Best stay away from it.

Green Arrow
11-15-2013, 06:07 PM
Oh, joy. Another case to turn into a partisan bitchfest for years, while everyone feigns concern for Renisha or the man who killed her, and everyome forgets about that little thing called justice.

nathanbforrest45
11-15-2013, 06:17 PM
He never makes any sense, so I'm not sure why you're surprised.

I think him and exotix are half brothers.

They are but their mothers were different species

nathanbforrest45
11-15-2013, 06:24 PM
I have a serious question. Who posting here was a witness to the shooting? Because if you were not a witness you know jack shit about what really happened one way or the other. The news media rarely gives the entire story from the beginning. We don't know what happened. We can assume and many times that assumption is correct. However we don't know and until ALL the facts come out I am withholding judgement one way or the other.

roadmaster
11-15-2013, 06:40 PM
We don't know the mind set of the man. I can say just seeing a black woman on my porch would not cause me to fire. She would have to be trying to break in or acting in a threatening manner. Or it could have been a person not knowing how to use a gun and it went off by accident. I will wait on the facts but most law biding citizens are not out to kill others.

The Wash
11-15-2013, 06:51 PM
As a black person I would think twice about rolling up onto a strange white porch. I would think it would end up either this same way or with the police arresting me. I'm surprised Renisha did that.

Matty
11-15-2013, 07:02 PM
As a black person I would think twice about rolling up onto a strange white porch. I would think it would end up either this same way or with the police arresting me. I'm surprised Renisha did that.



I'm sorry you feel that way because the statistics say you are more likely to be killed by another black man.

peoshi
11-15-2013, 07:02 PM
"Strange White Porch"? How would you know the occupants were white?

Off Topic, but I read on another thread you play cod, which one and what system? I've been playing ghosts some on 360 but you die so fast and get shot in the back so much its hard to get into...liked BO2 better.:smiley:

The Wash
11-15-2013, 07:06 PM
I'm sorry you feel that way because the statistics say you are more likely to be killed by another black man.

Oh well. We're talking about this situation, not the statistics you want to raise. I'm sure you can start a thread about them.

The Wash
11-15-2013, 07:07 PM
"Strange White Porch"? How would you know the occupants were white?

Dearborn, MI look it up. Also, like I said search on Michigan and satanists.



Off Topic, but I read on another thread you play cod, which one and what system? I've been playing ghosts some on 360 but you die so fast and get shot in the back so much its hard to get into...liked BO2 better.:smiley:

Playstation, ftw.

roadmaster
11-15-2013, 07:14 PM
As a black person I would think twice about rolling up onto a strange white porch. I would think it would end up either this same way or with the police arresting me. I'm surprised Renisha did that. You must live up north. I am going to be cautious about anyone on the porch at night but not trigger happy. Not everyone is trying to rob you or intend harm. I don't know the neighborhood she went to but she would have a 98% chance around here not to get shot for just standing on a porch whatever race.

peoshi
11-15-2013, 07:16 PM
I did look it up, 42% are arab but categorized as "white".

I've got a playstation as well but it got knocked out by a storm,was prestige in blackops 2 when it happened(dammit).

Tried to find a ps4 today but had no luck.:cry:

nathanbforrest45
11-15-2013, 07:18 PM
According to the latest information the victim had an alcohol level of twice the legal limit plus marijuana was found in her blood. So, this does change the story just a bit does it not? Perhaps she was incoherent and aggressive and was demanding to be let into the house. I don't know since I was not there. All I know is all the defense needs is an issue that creates "reasonable doubt" (and of course that justice is actually done and this is not resolved on political grounds). I do think this latest information should at the very least cause a thinking person to look deeper into what may have happened.

All of the evidence is not in yet and we will never hear all of it unless we are in the courtroom. We should at least wait until we know more before we lynch the white man

The Wash
11-15-2013, 07:20 PM
I did look it up, 42% are arab but categorized as "white".

I've got a playstation as well but it got knocked out by a storm,was prestige in blackops 2 when it happened(dammit).

Tried to find a ps4 today but had no luck.:cry:

You didn't preorder?

peoshi
11-15-2013, 07:29 PM
You didn't preorder?Unfortunately no...got an email from amazon this morning saying I could get one at midnight tonight if I bought a kindle fire with it, but I already have a tablet.

Do you have a ps4...if so, how is it?

The Wash
11-15-2013, 07:48 PM
Unfortunately no...got an email from amazon this morning saying I could get one at midnight tonight if I bought a kindle fire with it, but I already have a tablet.

Do you have a ps4...if so, how is it?

Technically it is our roommates since we bought it on his card. I would be an asshole if I opened it up and played with it when he wasn't around. It's probably a decent system.

Codename Section
11-15-2013, 07:52 PM
Technically it is our roommates since we bought it on his card. I would be an asshole if I opened it up and played with it when he wasn't around. It's probably a decent system.

:(

peoshi
11-15-2013, 08:02 PM
Technically it is our roommates since we bought it on his card. I would be an asshole if I opened it up and played with it when he wasn't around. It's probably a decent system.Understand,I would have to call him and ask,though...maybe guilt-trip him into letting me.:evil:

Matty
11-15-2013, 08:05 PM
Oh well. We're talking about this situation, not the statistics you want to raise. I'm sure you can start a thread about them.



I'm just pointing out you should beware the black porch more than the white, your chances are better on the white porch.

The Wash
11-15-2013, 08:08 PM
I'm just pointing out you should beware the black porch more than the white, your chances are better on the white porch.

I'm sure you know a lot about black on black crime.

roadmaster
11-15-2013, 08:25 PM
What I am having a problem with is why was she seeking help at this house 6 blocks away and 2 hours after the crash? It was said that she crashed into a unoccupied car and someone called 911 for her. Being 19 and drinking is already against the law, she was dangerous to others but didn't stay at the accident scene for help. Was she trying to get into a house to not confront the police or be arrested? Could have been desperate trying to evade the law. 2 hours is a long time drunk, high and bleeding and the police had already went to her car once looking for her. Why 6 blocks away? I find that people who are over the limit to be more aggressive especially running from the law. Something's not right with this story and the facts need to come out.

Matty
11-15-2013, 09:15 PM
I'm sure you know a lot about black on black crime.


question is do you?

Codename Section
11-15-2013, 09:56 PM
question is do you?

Do you?

Matty
11-15-2013, 10:33 PM
Do you?


Do you?

Codename Section
11-15-2013, 10:34 PM
Do you?

Yes, which is why the porch scenario versus drive by gang related doesn't make sense. Want to get back on topic now? Someone died in Dearborn, did you know that?

Green Arrow
11-16-2013, 04:47 AM
It is a midwest thing. Faygo Red Pop plus ice cream is heaven.

http://acimg.auctivacommerce.com/imgdata/0/2/3/4/5/2/webimg/3785038.jpg

I love me the shit out of Faygo! I never knew it existed until I came to Richmond the first time. Stuff's awesome.

Matty
11-16-2013, 08:01 AM
Yes, which is why the porch scenario versus drive by gang related doesn't make sense. Want to get back on topic now? Someone died in Dearborn, did you know that?


probably in Pontiac and Detroit too don't ya think?

Alyosha
11-16-2013, 09:14 AM
I love me the shit out of Faygo! I never knew it existed until I came to Richmond the first time. Stuff's awesome.

WHAT???????? It's in RIchmond????????? Green Arrow????????????????????????????

Alyosha
11-16-2013, 09:15 AM
probably in Pontiac and Detroit too don't ya think?

And in Buzzard's Hollow. People die.

Green Arrow
11-16-2013, 06:38 PM
WHAT???????? It's in RIchmond????????? @Green Arrow (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=868)????????????????????????????

Yes, it is :D Nowhere big like Walmart, I don't think, but I know several local food shops that sell tons of Faygo.

The Wash
11-16-2013, 06:50 PM
Yes, it is :D Nowhere big like Walmart, I don't think, but I know several local food shops that sell tons of Faygo.

Hold up. There's Faygo in Virginia?

Matty
11-16-2013, 07:37 PM
And in Buzzard's Hollow. People die.



show me how many died in Buzzard's Hollow from drive by shootings. It'll be interesting.

Green Arrow
11-16-2013, 07:50 PM
Hold up. There's Faygo in Virginia?

Here in Richmond at least, yep. I know a little sub shop on 3rd St. (blows Subway and Quiznos out of the water, AND it's local) that sells them, and across the street from them on Broad is a convenience store that sells them. Most (if not all) of our local convenience stores sell Faygo, from what I've seen.

Captain Obvious
11-16-2013, 07:52 PM
Faygo diet Frosh.

Great shit.

Dr. Who
11-16-2013, 11:01 PM
The deceased was high on drugs and alcohol and possibly had a head injury. She was likely stumbling around and freaking out the home owners. The accused pulled out his shotgun. He says it went off accidently. The question is was it really accidental or was he so afraid that he pulled the trigger without ascertaining what or who was out there? Does anyone really think that he would be so afraid of a confused injured woman that he would simply kill her. I don't think so. But it is just as bad having a gun and using it out of fear of the unknown. That is what the trial will determine.

Common
11-16-2013, 11:05 PM
Theyve sold faygo in NY an Jersey for many many years, I used to love chocolate faygo. Faygo is really good stuff.

Mister D
11-17-2013, 12:06 AM
The deceased was high on drugs and alcohol and possibly had a head injury. She was likely stumbling around and freaking out the home owners. The accused pulled out his shotgun. He says it went off accidently. The question is was it really accidental or was he so afraid that he pulled the trigger without ascertaining what or who was out there? Does anyone really think that he would be so afraid of a confused injured woman that he would simply kill her. I don't think so. But it is just as bad having a gun and using it out of fear of the unknown. That is what the trial will determine.

You mean to tell me a little black Pollyanna wasn't begging for help before the mean white man plugged her? That fucks up the narrative...

Common
11-17-2013, 12:08 AM
Faygo diet Frosh.

Great shit.


Damn I forgot that one Frosh and chocolate were my favorites.

Green Arrow
11-17-2013, 12:59 AM
The deceased was high on drugs and alcohol and possibly had a head injury. She was likely stumbling around and freaking out the home owners. The accused pulled out his shotgun. He says it went off accidently. The question is was it really accidental or was he so afraid that he pulled the trigger without ascertaining what or who was out there? Does anyone really think that he would be so afraid of a confused injured woman that he would simply kill her. I don't think so. But it is just as bad having a gun and using it out of fear of the unknown. That is what the trial will determine.

It may be that he wasn't lying about it going off accidentally, but in the heat of the moment he pulled the trigger without thinking about it, and thus doesn't recall it as anything but accidental. Fear has a way of impairing our judgement.

exotix
12-19-2013, 06:47 PM
Just In

Theodore Wafer to stand trial for second-degree murder

http://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/renisha-mcbride-shooter-stand-trial

Judge David Turfe said Thursday that based on the evidence presented, Wafer made a poor decision in shooting McBride, and he failed to pursue other “reasonable opportunities to defend himself,” including calling the police for help.


“He chose to shoot rather than not answer the door,” the judge said.


With the *appearance as a white hispanic* ... Theodore Wafer listens to his attorney Cheryl Carpenter while appearing at his preliminary examination before District Court Judge David Turfe in Dearborn Heights, Mich., Dec. 18, 2013.

http://i43.tinypic.com/n5r5sg.jpg

Max Rockatansky
12-19-2013, 07:06 PM
This guy is an idiot. While it's a tragedy this young lady had her head expertly blown off by a shotgun from a distance, it should also be noted she was drunk with a .218 blood alcohol content (almost 3 times the legal limit). Being a black female drunk doesn't justify being shot dead, but only those two know what she said through the door in her condition.


Police say McBride crashed a car in nearby Detroit and knocked on the homeowner's door afterwards, looking for assistance. McBride was "bloodied, disoriented and appeared to be confused" after the crash, according to witnesses, Worthy said. Wafer told police he thought McBride was breaking in; he also said his shotgun went off by accident.Few details about what happened the early morning of McBride's death had been released before Friday. The Wayne County medical examiner's office ruled her death was a homicide, finding she received a fatal shotgun blast to the face, fired from a distance.
"There is no evidence of forced entry into the home," Prosecutor Kym Worthy told reporters Friday after announcing the charges, which also included manslaughter and firearms possession during the attempted commission of a felony or commission of a felony. "Our evidence shows she knocked on the locked screen door."

.....McBride's blood alcohol content was .218 percent, nearly three times the legal driving limit of 0.08 percent in the state of Michigan.

Her crash involved a parked vehicle six blocks away, authorities told The Detroit Free Press (http://www.freep.com/article/20131113/NEWS02/311130101).

del
12-19-2013, 10:34 PM
This guy is an idiot. While it's a tragedy this young lady had her head expertly blown off by a shotgun from a distance, it should also be noted she was drunk with a .218 blood alcohol content (almost 3 times the legal limit). Being a black female drunk doesn't justify being shot dead, but only those two know what she said through the door in her condition.

well, hell, let him go

Max Rockatansky
12-20-2013, 07:01 AM
well, hell, let him go

I'll wait to see what evidence the Prosecutor presents before advising he be released.

jillian
12-20-2013, 08:13 AM
well he's been charged. Obviously he is guilty. Don't waste money on a trial, just hang the bastard.

he shot an unarmed woman in the back. i'm pretty sure there isn't any justification for that. there is no indentity issue. there is no justification issue. he can claim SYG of some type, I suppose. but are you really standing for anything when you shoot someone in the back of the head as they're leaving?

do you think he shouldn't have been charged?

patrickt
12-20-2013, 08:52 AM
yes, because if a black woman comes to your door asking for help, certainly she must deserve to be shot in the back of the head. he was only standing his ground.

What pitiful nonsense. I can hardly wait for the People's Courts to arrive in the U.S. with Judge Jillian on the bench. Trial by color would be fast. Psychic evidence is fast, too.

And what did you skip in your fairyland description? How about totally drunk? That will be in evidence.

Cigar
12-20-2013, 08:57 AM
What pitiful nonsense. I can hardly wait for the People's Courts to arrive in the U.S. with Judge Jillian on the bench. Trial by color would be fast. Psychic evidence is fast, too.

And what did you skip in your fairyland description? How about totally drunk? That will be in evidence.

Would it make you feel better if the dead women was White?

del
12-20-2013, 10:32 AM
What pitiful nonsense. I can hardly wait for the People's Courts to arrive in the U.S. with Judge Jillian on the bench. Trial by color would be fast. Psychic evidence is fast, too.

And what did you skip in your fairyland description? How about totally drunk? That will be in evidence.

if drunkenness was a capital offense, i wouldn't have lived past the age of twelve.

Max Rockatansky
12-20-2013, 11:09 AM
if drunkenness was a capital offense, i wouldn't have lived past the age of twelve.

Not 12, but I think a lot of us would be in that boat. Drunkenness isn't and shouldn't be a capital offense, but is there any doubt that a drunk driver who kills people in a crash or attacks someone should be arrested?

Personally, I think this idiot overreacted, but if he was a big pussy hiding behind his couch and jumping every time a tree branch taps his window, I can see how he might be stupid and scared enough to pull the trigger on a women yelling at him from his front porch. Does that justify homicide? No, but I can see how it mitigates it from Murder Two to manslaughter.

del
12-20-2013, 11:11 AM
Not 12, but I think a lot of us would be in that boat. Drunkenness isn't and shouldn't be a capital offense, but is there any doubt that a drunk driver who kills people in a crash or attacks someone should be arrested?

Personally, I think this idiot overreacted, but if he was a big pussy hiding behind his couch and jumping every time a tree branch taps his window, I can see how he might be stupid and scared enough to pull the trigger on a women yelling at him from his front porch. Does that justify homicide? No, but I can see how it mitigates it from Murder Two to manslaughter.

you've got better eyes than i do, then

exotix
07-24-2014, 05:55 PM
'He thought the gun was unloaded and accidentally shot her in Self-Defense' ?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/porch-shooting-suspect-shot-unarmed-teen-accident/story?id=24694425



Wayne County Assistant Prosecutor Danielle Hagaman-Clark holds the gun used to kill Renisha McBride during the Theodore Wafer trial in Detroit on July 24, 2014.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_porch_shooting_03_murder_weapon_jc_140724_4x3_9 92.jpg

Kurmugeon
07-24-2014, 11:35 PM
well he's been charged. Obviously he is guilty. Don't waste money on a trial, just hang the bastard.

I don't believe that 2nd degree murder gets a death penalty.

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exotix
08-07-2014, 02:44 PM
*Breaking*


Guilty of Murder

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renisha-mcbrides-killer-found-guilty-murder-n175306

Theodore Wafer who shot Renisha McBride on November 2, 2013, when she knocked on his door after a car crash where it was determined that she had been drinking ... and charged with second-degree murder, manslaughter and weapons felony firearms ... was found guilty on all counts.

The trial drew comparisons to the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case because Wafer is white and McBride was black, but the subject of race was rarely breached in the courtroom.
Wafers defense lawyer said Wednesday that her client was far from a racist, and he didn't know the race of the person he shot.

When asked if he thought race played a part, Simmons said, "I'm not going to say that, that could have been anybody's kid.”

Wafer will be sentenced on August 21.

He faces life in prison with the possibility of parole.


Video Inside

http://i59.tinypic.com/jr60qx.png

exotix
09-03-2014, 09:35 AM
Just In


Theodore Wafer gets minimum 17 years in prison


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/renisha-mcbride-killer-gets-minimum-17-years-prison-n194366


"I am confident that if you weren't going to prison today, you would never commit another crime," Judge Dana Margaret Hathaway told Wafer.




Theodore Wafer as sentence is handed-down.

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_36/647381/140903-wafer-02-jsw-926a_adbd5240d4ef958ba2a21a1fb499a80c.nbcnews-ux-880-520.jpg

Cigar
09-03-2014, 10:00 AM
http://profoundlystrong.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/peanuts_happy_dance.jpg (http://profoundlystrong.com/2014/03/04/time-for-the-happy-dance/)

Redrose
09-03-2014, 09:39 PM
Very, very bad shoot. He is guilty. That young woman, tipsy or not was no threat to him. He shot her probably because she was Black and acting erratically. All he had to do if truly scared was shut the door and call police.

Too sad all around.