Roseanne Barr on the Ballot for California Presidential Primary

[Conley]

Roseanne Barr’s name is on California’s primary ballot as a Green Party candidate for president.

Secretary of State Debra Bowen announced Monday that Barr is among 24 candidates she intends to place on the June 5 ballot. An officially certified list will be released on March 29.

A news release says Barr is among three candidates for the Green Party presidential nomination.

The actress-comedian released a statement last week saying she’s a longtime supporter of the Green Party and she looks forward to working with people who share her values. She says the two major parties aren’t serving the American people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/roseanne-barrs-name-is-on-calif-primary-ballot-as-green-party-presidential-candidate/2012/02/07/gIQAOJiHwQ_story.html

I was going to say that third parties will never be taken seriously with this kind of nonsense, but then I remembered that the GOP has had some success with actors by the name of Reagan and Schwarzenegger. Anyway, this story makes Gingrich's ballot failures look even worse in comparison.

[Mister D]

It's a lot easier to take Reagan and Schwarzenegger seriously than it is Barr. Reagan was the real deal and Ahhnuld seems to have a head on his shoulders at least. The Greens must be awfully desperate these days.

[Conley]

Well I am obviously thinking in terms of governor with those two names, not jumping right to the presidency. I don't mean to suggest this isn't ridiculous. Did Reagan have any political experience before governor? I don't think it's that unusual, and if I'm remembering correctly Dubya hadn't had any before running Texas and then moving on to the White House.

[Mister D]

I think Reagan was involved in politics for a long time prior to the governorship but not in any official capacity. Here is WIki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#Early_political_career

Reagan began his political career as a liberal Democrat (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)), admirer of Franklin D. Roosevelt (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt), and an active supporter of New Deal policies (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/New_Deal_Coalition). In the early 1950s, as his relationship with Republican actress Nancy Davis grew,[51] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-50)[52] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-51) he shifted to the right and, while remaining a Democrat, endorsed the presidential candidacies of Dwight D. Eisenhower (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower) in 1952 and 1956 as well as Richard Nixon (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Richard_Nixon) in 1960.[53] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-52) The last time Reagan actively supported a Democratic candidate was in 1950 when he helped Helen Gahagan Douglas (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Helen_Gahagan_Douglas) in her unsuccessful Senate campaign against Richard Nixon.[54] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-53) After being hired in 1954 to host the General Electric Theater, a TV drama series,[55] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-lnla.3Bppmk-54) Reagan soon began to embrace the conservative views of the sponsoring company's officials.[55] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-lnla.3Bppmk-54)[56] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-55) His many GE speeches—which he wrote himself—were non-partisan but carried a conservative, pro-business message; he was influenced by Lemuel Boulware (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Lemuel_Boulware), a senior GE executive. Boulware, known for his tough stance against unions and his innovative strategies to win over workers, championed the core tenets of modern American conservatism: free markets, anticommunism, lower taxes, and limited government.[57] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-56) Eventually, the ratings for Reagan's show fell off and GE dropped Reagan in 1962.[58] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-57) In August of that year Reagan formally switched to the Republican Party (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)), stating, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me."[59] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-58)
In the early 1960s Reagan opposed certain civil rights legislation, saying that "if an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house, it is his right to do so."[60] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-59) In his rationale, he cited his opposition to government intrusion into personal freedoms, as opposed to racism; he strongly denied having racist motives and later reversed his opposition to voting rights and fair housing laws.[61] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-Lehrer-60) When legislation that would become Medicare (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)) was introduced in 1961, Reagan created a recording for the American Medical Association (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/American_Medical_Association) warning that such legislation would mean the end of freedom in America. Reagan said that if his listeners did not write letters to prevent it, "we will awake to find that we have so­cialism. And if you don't do this, and if I don't do it, one of these days, you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children's children, what it once was like in America when men were free."[62] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-61)[63] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-62)[64] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-63) He also joined the National Rifle Association (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/National_Rifle_Association) and would become a lifetime member.[65] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-64)
Reagan endorsed the campaign of conservative presidential contender Barry Goldwater (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Barry_Goldwater) in 1964. Speaking for Goldwater, Reagan stressed his belief in the importance of smaller government. He revealed his ideological motivation in a famed speech delivered on October 27, 1964: "The Founding Fathers (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States) knew a government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they knew when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. So we have come to a time for choosing."[66] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-65) This "Time for Choosing (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/A_Time_for_Choosing)" speech raised $1 million for Goldwater's campaign[16] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-agpi-15) and is considered the event that launched Reagan's political career.[67] (http://thepoliticalforums.com/#cite_note-66)

[Conley]

Yes, you're right. It seems he was very active and not just by endorsing candidates or donating money. He was much more involved than I realized.

[Mister D]

Nowadays, as far as actors are concerned, it's stupid soundbites and corny endorsements regardless of party. reagan seemed like a pretty serious guy. Chuck Norris,. Baldwin etc. don't strike me as serious at all.

[MMC]

Roseanne Barr.....what are the Libs trying to get her to run against Nader? Because as I was hearing it if the green party was to pull 4% of the vote that such takes from Obama more so than the Repubs. But that either way a 3rd party candidate hurts both other partys.

Then theres that litle delegate game. Where the green party has no play.

[Mister D]

A Green candidate should hurt the Dems more than the GOP.

[Conley]

Nader has hurt them in the past, you don't need to look any further than 2000 and Gore's bid. But there's just no way Roseanne will pull 4% of the votes.

[Mister D]

I don;t see that happening either which is why I'm queationing their choice of Barr. Then again, they are Greens...

[MMC]

A Green candidate should hurt the Dems more than the GOP.

Thats what they were saying this morning. Now someone like Newt running as Independant could hurt the GOP. Same thing if Ron paul was to go that way.

[Mister D]

Thats what they were saying this morning. Now someone like Newt running as Independant could hurt the GOP. Same thing if Ron paul was to go that way.

That would hurt the GOP pretty bad. Hopefully, Newt is not so deranged.

[Conley]

I don;t see that happening either which is why I'm queationing their choice of Barr. Then again, they are Greens...


Well she is only one of three Green candidates on the ballot here. She may not even win the Green nomination.

[MMC]

Thats the Problem tho.....Newt is deranged! This is no idea man. He is nothing more than a Con man. A shorty chubby little fricken con man who likes to throw out clich'es. Talk about he is a History Major. In what history? Bullshitting History?

The fact that he is still got the nerve to show his face after talking about his Sacred Honor goes to show one just how pathetic this country has become. Wherever he goes he show be met by the American people with signs that get the message across to Gig-n-Rich. Signs,hand held, side of the road, billboards, and of Course television ads, and radio ads. Where this putz goes. Neon lights should be going off in his face, reading. Don't go away mad Newt.....just go away!!!!!

[Mister D]

He does have one hell of an ego, MMC. H ewould go down in infamy among Republicans if he ran but who knows.

[Conley]

He does have one hell of an ego, MMC. H ewould go down in infamy among Republicans if he ran but who knows.

What does he have to lose at this point? They already hate him for this campaign and for his past. As long as people keep giving him money and he's not spending his own personal fortune he may choose to continue.

[Mister D]

What does he have to lose at this point? They already hate him for this campaign and for his past. As long as people keep giving him money and he's not spending his own personal fortune he may choose to continue.

'Tis true but a guy like that might be concerned about his legacy.

[MMC]

He didnt call Romney after the win in Nevada either. This BS about he is a genuine Washington Outsider has to stop. What was he hoping on that half the country wouldn't know who and what he was and is. He now wants to change the party. Why? Because the whole party except for like 6% percent don't believe in what he says? That he is going to fight on until the Convention. How many True Conservatives have to come out with op-eds slamming him over being a Conservative in the first place? This attacking Romney over being a moderate. Code for RINO is a joke. Especially when Gig-n-Rich is exactly the same if not worse with his progressive ideas. Which when they turn out to be bad they are really bad. But then he figures he can say oh I'm sorry. I have learned better now!

That the majority of Repubs know he would be a disaster as the President of this Country. Talk about Obama not having any leadership. This guy would really take the cake. If he cannot be organized with things then how would he be an effective leader? As President he will do what? Nothing if he has a Congress blocking him. So that means only foreign policy shit. Where the Eye of Newt would love to get those fat grubby mitts on any more money he can. Of course putting others at risk so he can make the grade!

[wingrider]

roseanne barr??? hahhahahahahhahhahahahah now thats funny