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Cigar
12-12-2013, 08:28 AM
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1. Food Stamps

Conservatives are especially “compassionate” when it comes to helping the poor. Since many of them hold the moral belief that helping people makes them, as Paul Ryan said, “dependent” and “complacent,” the way these conservatives apply their compassion is to work to cut the poor, hungry, elderly, disabled, ill and others off from any means of assistance.


2. Minimum Wage

Compassionate conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to stop efforts to bring the minimum wage up. In fact, many of them believe there shouldn’t be a minimum wage at all.


3. Unemployment Benefits

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul said recently that extending unemployment benefits for the long term unemployed would be a “disservice” because, he says, unemployment benefits cause unemployment. "When you allow people to be on unemployment insurance for 99 weeks, you're causing them to become part of this perpetual unemployed group in our economy. And it really - while it seems good, it actually does a disservice to the people you're trying to help."


4. Healthcare

Paul Ryan has called our government safety-net programs “a hammock that lulls able-bodied people to lives of dependency and complacency, that drains them of their will.” It is pretty clear at this point what the rest of the Republicans think of the idea of helping the poor and uninsured get healthcare. They are trying to nullify the existing law (passed by Congress, signed by the President, ruled legal by the courts and confirmed in the 2012 election) and Republican states are practically seceding from the United States to avoid expanding Medicaid to cover more people, even though the federal government is picking up the entire tab.

5. Immigrants


As with healthcare, it is pretty clear where Republicans stand on the idea of (non-European, white) people immigrating to the United States. They want them out. In fact, it is pretty clear where they stand on the idea of allowing people to stay even if they were brought to the country as children: they want them out, too.


Republican leaders are blocking the new Senate-passed comprehensive immigration reform bill from even coming to a vote in the House — because it will pass. They understand that this will enrage the Republican base and cause many incumbents to face primaries. Displays of compassion are not welcome in the Republican Tea Party base.


6. Corporate Taxes


To be fair, there is one group conservatives can be very, very compassionate toward: the wealthy and their corporations. While demanding cuts in food stamps, healthcare, unemployment benefits, etc., they are always, always insistent on cutting taxes for the fortunate few.



So keep your eye out for people claiming to be “compassionate conservatives.” It is an oxymoron, which means it sucks the oxygen out of the meaning of the words and is moronic to boot. In other words, it’s just the same old bullpucky

http://www.alternet.org/economy/6-reasons-theres-no-such-thing-compassionate-conservatism

Mainecoons
12-12-2013, 08:50 AM
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Captain Obvious
12-12-2013, 08:52 AM
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MrJimmyDale
12-12-2013, 08:53 AM
What about firearms, animal rights, and women's rights? Don't let us off the hook on those!

Cigar
12-12-2013, 08:55 AM
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nic34
12-12-2013, 08:57 AM
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1. Food Stamps

Conservatives are especially “compassionate” when it comes to helping the poor. Since many of them hold the moral belief that helping people makes them, as Paul Ryan said, “dependent” and “complacent,” the way these conservatives apply their compassion is to work to cut the poor, hungry, elderly, disabled, ill and others off from any means of assistance.


2. Minimum Wage

Compassionate conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to stop efforts to bring the minimum wage up. In fact, many of them believe there shouldn’t be a minimum wage at all.


3. Unemployment Benefits

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul said recently that extending unemployment benefits for the long term unemployed would be a “disservice” because, he says, unemployment benefits cause unemployment. "When you allow people to be on unemployment insurance for 99 weeks, you're causing them to become part of this perpetual unemployed group in our economy. And it really - while it seems good, it actually does a disservice to the people you're trying to help."


4. Healthcare

Paul Ryan has called our government safety-net programs “a hammock that lulls able-bodied people to lives of dependency and complacency, that drains them of their will.” It is pretty clear at this point what the rest of the Republicans think of the idea of helping the poor and uninsured get healthcare. They are trying to nullify the existing law (passed by Congress, signed by the President, ruled legal by the courts and confirmed in the 2012 election) and Republican states are practically seceding from the United States to avoid expanding Medicaid to cover more people, even though the federal government is picking up the entire tab.

5. Immigrants


As with healthcare, it is pretty clear where Republicans stand on the idea of (non-European, white) people immigrating to the United States. They want them out. In fact, it is pretty clear where they stand on the idea of allowing people to stay even if they were brought to the country as children: they want them out, too.


Republican leaders are blocking the new Senate-passed comprehensive immigration reform bill from even coming to a vote in the House — because it will pass. They understand that this will enrage the Republican base and cause many incumbents to face primaries. Displays of compassion are not welcome in the Republican Tea Party base.


6. Corporate Taxes


To be fair, there is one group conservatives can be very, very compassionate toward: the wealthy and their corporations. While demanding cuts in food stamps, healthcare, unemployment benefits, etc., they are always, always insistent on cutting taxes for the fortunate few.



So keep your eye out for people claiming to be “compassionate conservatives.” It is an oxymoron, which means it sucks the oxygen out of the meaning of the words and is moronic to boot. In other words, it’s just the same old bullpucky

http://www.alternet.org/economy/6-reasons-theres-no-such-thing-compassionate-conservatism


But they mean well...:grin:

GrassrootsConservative
12-12-2013, 08:58 AM
But they mean well...:grin:

Oh, the irony.

Mainecoons
12-12-2013, 08:59 AM
It's far more compassionate to replace work with welfare and mortgage the future of the young with debty.

On that basis, it is no contest. Y'all win hands down.

BTW, which administration has had the greatest increase in concentration of wealth in the one percent? See if you two geniuses can figure that one out.

Oh, and Cigar, do enjoy today's report on applications for unemployment.

Chris
12-12-2013, 09:02 AM
Compassionate conservatism was coined to spin the liberalism of George Bush and neocons. In effect, it is liberalism. One would only wish that that didn't exist.

Cigar
12-12-2013, 09:02 AM
But they mean well...:grin:

Somehow, their memory gets reset one week after A Presidential Election ... but that's OK. :wink:

Cigar
12-12-2013, 09:02 AM
Compassionate conservatism was coined to spin the liberalism of George Bush. In effect, it is liberalism. One would only wish that that didn't exist.

It doesn't ... :laugh:

Max Rockatansky
12-12-2013, 09:06 AM
A huge broadbrush distorting the truth. One of the best ways to lie is to tell the truth, but with enough distortion to give a misleading impression.

Example, no one is advocating "to cut the poor, hungry, elderly, disabled, ill and others off from any means of assistance".

There are a lot of unicorn and rainbow promises associated with raising the Federal minimum wage. If New York can't hire enough McDonald's workers at $7.25/hour, let them raise the minimum wage just like they banned 32 ounce drinks. Mandating that fast food workers in Ponder, Texas are paid $15/hour is a sure way to put a lot of people on the street, close down restaurants and/or jack up the prices so much more people will simple brown bag it with a result of less jobs.

Mainecoons
12-12-2013, 09:21 AM
Lying by omission is a primary characteristic of the OP's threads here.

patrickt
12-12-2013, 09:23 AM
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1. Food Stamps

Conservatives are especially “compassionate” when it comes to helping the poor. Since many of them hold the moral belief that helping people makes them, as Paul Ryan said, “dependent” and “complacent,” the way these conservatives apply their compassion is to work to cut the poor, hungry, elderly, disabled, ill and others off from any means of assistance.


2. Minimum Wage

Compassionate conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to stop efforts to bring the minimum wage up. In fact, many of them believe there shouldn’t be a minimum wage at all.


3. Unemployment Benefits

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul said recently that extending unemployment benefits for the long term unemployed would be a “disservice” because, he says, unemployment benefits cause unemployment. "When you allow people to be on unemployment insurance for 99 weeks, you're causing them to become part of this perpetual unemployed group in our economy. And it really - while it seems good, it actually does a disservice to the people you're trying to help."


4. Healthcare

Paul Ryan has called our government safety-net programs “a hammock that lulls able-bodied people to lives of dependency and complacency, that drains them of their will.” It is pretty clear at this point what the rest of the Republicans think of the idea of helping the poor and uninsured get healthcare. They are trying to nullify the existing law (passed by Congress, signed by the President, ruled legal by the courts and confirmed in the 2012 election) and Republican states are practically seceding from the United States to avoid expanding Medicaid to cover more people, even though the federal government is picking up the entire tab.

5. Immigrants


As with healthcare, it is pretty clear where Republicans stand on the idea of (non-European, white) people immigrating to the United States. They want them out. In fact, it is pretty clear where they stand on the idea of allowing people to stay even if they were brought to the country as children: they want them out, too.


Republican leaders are blocking the new Senate-passed comprehensive immigration reform bill from even coming to a vote in the House — because it will pass. They understand that this will enrage the Republican base and cause many incumbents to face primaries. Displays of compassion are not welcome in the Republican Tea Party base.


6. Corporate Taxes


To be fair, there is one group conservatives can be very, very compassionate toward: the wealthy and their corporations. While demanding cuts in food stamps, healthcare, unemployment benefits, etc., they are always, always insistent on cutting taxes for the fortunate few.



So keep your eye out for people claiming to be “compassionate conservatives.” It is an oxymoron, which means it sucks the oxygen out of the meaning of the words and is moronic to boot. In other words, it’s just the same old bullpucky

http://www.alternet.org/economy/6-reasons-theres-no-such-thing-compassionate-conservatism

Six reasons liberals aren't compassionate:
1. Food stamps and food stamp fraud. Liberals want to buy votes but ending hunger with jobs is not what they want. In fact, they're proud of the growing number, the record number, drawing food stamps.
2. Minimum wage--liberals don't want people working because they might become independent so raising minimum wage and reducing employment is a worthy goal. The liberals are also desperate to convice every person working on minimum wage that they always will be at minimum wage and upward mobility simply isn't possible. Stealing people's dreams is one of the least compassionate acts possible.
3. Unemployment benefits that run forever are another indication of the lack of compassion liberals have for people who work and have to pay the endless unemployment benefits. Liberals love deadbeats who won't even look for work and reward them for voting for liberals.
4. Health care--liberals are so lacking in compassion is their dream for health care is total government control run by the all-compassionate IRS. Well, for everyone except politicians, their families, and their friends like unions and other criminals. Average Americans will die sooner and make room for more liberals.
5. Immigrants -- Liberals hate minorities who are U.S. citizens and immigrants who entered legally. They only want illegal aliens who will believe they're totally dependent on the government. To seal our borders, allow the liberals to distribute absentee ballots to foreign nationals in Mexico. Then liberals won't want them making the trip north. Of course, with liberal welfare that would leave a lot of jobs vacant, wouldn't it?
6. Corporate Taxes--now here's where liberal lack of compassion and hypocrisy shine. Liberals are tough as nails on corporations that don't contribute to liberal politicians. Those that do, easy peasy. Since liberals don't want Americans working they use corporate taxes and foolish regulations to attack business and reduce hiring. Way to go, liberals, but it's certainly not compassionate.

The major difference in my post and Cigar's isn't that his post tries to pretend conservatives aren't compassionate and fails. Oh, no. The difference is I wrote mine.

Cigar
12-12-2013, 09:24 AM
Here's a Fact-Based, Verifiable way to tell ... look at their actual VOTING RECORD.

How about that ... ?

Is that a Lie also?

Cigar
12-12-2013, 09:26 AM
Six reasons liberals aren't compassionate:
1. Food stamps and food stamp fraud. Liberals want to buy votes but ending hunger with jobs is not what they want. In fact, they're proud of the growing number, the record number, drawing food stamps.
2. Minimum wage--liberals don't want people working because they might become independent so raising minimum wage and reducing employment is a worthy goal. The liberals are also desperate to convice every person working on minimum wage that they always will be at minimum wage and upward mobility simply isn't possible.
3. Unemployment benefits that run forever are another indication of the lack of compassion liberals have for people who work and have to pay the endless unemployment benefits. Liberals love deadbeats who won't even look for work and reward them for voting for liberals.
4. Health care--liberals are so lacking in compassion is their dream for health care is total government control run by the all-compasionate IRS. Well, for everyone except poiticians, their families, and their friends like unions and other criminals. Average Americans will die sooner and make room for more liberals.
5. Immigrants -- Liberals hate minorities who are U.S. citizens and immigrants who entered legally. They only want illegal aliens who will believe they're totally dependent on the government. To seal our borders, allow the liberals to distribute absentee ballots to foreign nationals in Mexico. Then liberals won't want them making the trip north. Of course, with liberal welfare that would leave a lot of jobs vacant, wouldn't it?
6. Corporate Taxes--now here's where liberal lack of compassion and hypocrisy shine. Liberals are tough as nails on corporations that don't contribute to liberal politicians. Those that do, easy peasy. Since liberals don't want Americans working they use corporate taxes and foolish regulations to attack business and reduce hiring. Way to go, liberals, but it's certainly not compassionate.

The major difference in my post and Cigar's isn't that his post tries to pretend conservatives aren't compassionate and fails. Oh, no. The difference is I wrote mine.

So liberals don't want people working ... ? :rollseyes:

That's means you're in favor of YOUR Elected Official Voting YES on JOBS BILL? :wink:

zelmo1234
12-12-2013, 09:48 AM
6 reasons why the policys of the left are designed to enslave people:

lets take a look at the 6 reasons that Cigar gave us and see just how compassionate liberals really are!

#1 Food Stamps.

In 2009 they extended the income levels for those that qualified for the food stamp program to help those that were unemployed through the bottom of the recession. And now the program has built in a dependency that has people leaving the work force and refusing to even look for a job. so they are totally dependent on the government. Right where the democrats want the, so they can tell them how to live, where to live and most importantly who to vote for so they can have the power to rule over people THAT IS SLAVERY IN MY BOOK

#2 THE MINIMUM WAGE

We are told by the left that there are tons of full time workers that are trying to live on 7.25 an hour which of curse is just not true. WE also know that a higher minimum wage means inflation and fewer jobs, plus it has already decimated the youth work force meaning that our kids have no way of developing a work ethic. But if higher unemployment and more government dependency is your goal and we know the democrats love those dependent on the government for their very existence? That is slavery in my book and it destroys people hopes because their are no jobs available.

#3 Unemployment Benefits.

You now have to be able to tell me that it take 99 weeks to find a job in the USA Again this is a program that is based on something that sound compassionate, and yet it has once again made people slaves to their government and destroyed there hopes and dreams That is exactly what the slave masters of old did to people broke their spirit and made them total dependent

#4 Healthcare If forcing people to spend an higher percentage of their income for less quality and fewer options is compassion, then I do not understand compassion! But if you give people the power of choice take away the things that are driving up costs, give people more and better options so they can custom design a plan for their families, and at the same time put more money in there pocket? That is Freedom But democrats like to control the choices of their subjects

#5 immigration (illegal( You see Democrats and liberals have forgotten that there are 100% legal ways for people to immigrate into this country. But they want these new slaves to come into the country and become dependent on them for their very existence. The illegal worker is paid peanuts by those trying to avoid taxation and is force not to complain because of deportation. The democrats love the idea of having this much power over people lives. where of course if we really got serious about Illegal Immigration I know of No person that is against legal immigration. then we could open up starting level jobs, collect FICA taxes and income tax on workers and corporations and reduce the need for those food stamp and unemployment programs. So why would Democrats be against this? because it give people freedom and they are the party of control and enslavement

And #6 Corporate Taxes. The USA has the highest corporate tax rate in the world, and it is causing business especially manufacturing the staple job of the working middle class to flee this country for the lower cost courtiers of the world! Why would Democrats want this? We they sure they hell don't want people to have jobs that provide good income and benefits and the ability to support themselves without the help and more important the dependency on the government

So if you look at the perceive compassion of liberals, and they do Believe it is compassion because they judge on the intent of the law, not the results, you can see that they are still the party of slavery, they just have a new group of people that they wish to enslave

zelmo1234
12-12-2013, 09:51 AM
So liberals don't want people working ... ? :rollseyes:

That's means you're in favor of YOUR Elected Official Voting YES on JOBS BILL? :wink:

I actually do favor them voting YES on jobs bills that create jobs.

The last stimulus Jobs bill that this president passed was for over 800 billion in spending and it was a total failure by any standards costing over 400 thousand dollars for every job it created.

I want them not only voting NO on more fo the same of that type spending but if they can vote HELL NO that wold be even better!

When things are proven not to work, the idea of more of the same will be better needs to be abandon

BB-35
12-12-2013, 09:59 AM
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1. Food Stamps

Conservatives are especially “compassionate” when it comes to helping the poor. Since many of them hold the moral belief that helping people makes them, as Paul Ryan said, “dependent” and “complacent,” the way these conservatives apply their compassion is to work to cut the poor, hungry, elderly, disabled, ill and others off from any means of assistance.


2. Minimum Wage

Compassionate conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to stop efforts to bring the minimum wage up. In fact, many of them believe there shouldn’t be a minimum wage at all.


3. Unemployment Benefits

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul said recently that extending unemployment benefits for the long term unemployed would be a “disservice” because, he says, unemployment benefits cause unemployment. "When you allow people to be on unemployment insurance for 99 weeks, you're causing them to become part of this perpetual unemployed group in our economy. And it really - while it seems good, it actually does a disservice to the people you're trying to help."


4. Healthcare

Paul Ryan has called our government safety-net programs “a hammock that lulls able-bodied people to lives of dependency and complacency, that drains them of their will.” It is pretty clear at this point what the rest of the Republicans think of the idea of helping the poor and uninsured get healthcare. They are trying to nullify the existing law (passed by Congress, signed by the President, ruled legal by the courts and confirmed in the 2012 election) and Republican states are practically seceding from the United States to avoid expanding Medicaid to cover more people, even though the federal government is picking up the entire tab.

5. Immigrants


As with healthcare, it is pretty clear where Republicans stand on the idea of (non-European, white) people immigrating to the United States. They want them out. In fact, it is pretty clear where they stand on the idea of allowing people to stay even if they were brought to the country as children: they want them out, too.


Republican leaders are blocking the new Senate-passed comprehensive immigration reform bill from even coming to a vote in the House — because it will pass. They understand that this will enrage the Republican base and cause many incumbents to face primaries. Displays of compassion are not welcome in the Republican Tea Party base.


6. Corporate Taxes


To be fair, there is one group conservatives can be very, very compassionate toward: the wealthy and their corporations. While demanding cuts in food stamps, healthcare, unemployment benefits, etc., they are always, always insistent on cutting taxes for the fortunate few.



So keep your eye out for people claiming to be “compassionate conservatives.” It is an oxymoron, which means it sucks the oxygen out of the meaning of the words and is moronic to boot. In other words, it’s just the same old bullpucky

http://www.alternet.org/economy/6-reasons-theres-no-such-thing-compassionate-conservatism

I call bullshit! 4896

Cigar
12-12-2013, 10:06 AM
I actually do favor them voting YES on jobs bills that create jobs.

The last stimulus Jobs bill that this president passed was for over 800 billion in spending and it was a total failure by any standards costing over 400 thousand dollars for every job it created.

I want them not only voting NO on more fo the same of that type spending but if they can vote HELL NO that wold be even better!

When things are proven not to work, the idea of more of the same will be better needs to be abandon

Total and complete Bull-Shit ... every time someone dishes out this crap, I always answer in the same way.

If the stimulus didn't work for YOU in YOUR STATE, that's YOUR Governors Fault, NOT The President of The United States.

Now how can I say this; real simple. Because the stimulus built and reconfigured access roads near my community that had a direct positive impact on business in my community.

So if YOUR Governor Fucked Up or refused stimulus money ... how about you start with the one individual in YOUR STATE that Allocates MONEY.

BB-35
12-12-2013, 10:28 AM
Buck stops with him,ceegar......tough shit.

zelmo1234
12-12-2013, 10:28 AM
Total and complete Bull-Shit ... every time someone dishes out this crap, I always answer in the same way.

If the stimulus didn't work for YOU in YOUR STATE, that's YOUR Governors Fault, NOT The President of The United States.

Now how can I say this; real simple. Because the stimulus built and reconfigured access roads near my community that had a direct positive impact on business in my community.

So if YOUR Governor Fucked Up or refused stimulus money ... how about you start with the one individual in YOUR STATE that Allocates MONEY.

And of course each and every time you answer? you would be wrong.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/06/cbo-finds-obama-stimulus-may-have-cost-as-much-as-4-1-million-per-job/

First we have to assume that those roads were not going to be built anyway. which many projects were in fact moved forward but would have gotten done anyway.

And NO Jennifer Granholm did not use the stimulus wisely, that being said I was off on my figures the CBO 4.1 million per job

That is total failure by any measure.

So calling BS because you got a new road is not the success of the program! The program failed to create jobs

The statistics show this and saying that we need another even bigger stimulus that will not create jobs is foolish spending

Chris
12-12-2013, 01:24 PM
I actually do favor them voting YES on jobs bills that create jobs.

The last stimulus Jobs bill that this president passed was for over 800 billion in spending and it was a total failure by any standards costing over 400 thousand dollars for every job it created.

I want them not only voting NO on more fo the same of that type spending but if they can vote HELL NO that wold be even better!

When things are proven not to work, the idea of more of the same will be better needs to be abandon



Government can't create jobs.

Max Rockatansky
12-12-2013, 02:12 PM
Government can't create jobs.

Sure they can. George Bush created thousands of jobs by creating the TSA!

The thing to focus upon is "Should the government be creating jobs?" No, it should not. It should focus on legislation which helps create an environment that allows businesses to thrive and, therefore, create jobs.

Chris
12-12-2013, 02:17 PM
Sure they can. George Bush created thousands of jobs by creating the TSA!

The thing to focus upon is "Should the government be creating jobs?" No, it should not. It should focus on legislation which helps create an environment that allows businesses to thrive and, therefore, create jobs.


OK, yes, I mean wealth-generating rather than wealth-parasitic jobs. :-)



It should focus on legislation which helps create an environment that allows businesses to thrive and, therefore, create jobs.

^^That. Expand economic freedom. Those countries with greater economic freedom consistently show greater prosperity. This is also what Rand Paul is recommending for Detroit.

Green Arrow
12-12-2013, 07:36 PM
Before this thread goes on for another twenty pages of nothing but back-biting, I'm going to go ahead and actually try to rebut the OP. Be right back.

Green Arrow
12-12-2013, 07:48 PM
1. Food Stamps

Conservatives are especially “compassionate” when it comes to helping the poor. Since many of them hold the moral belief that helping people makes them, as Paul Ryan said, “dependent” and “complacent,” the way these conservatives apply their compassion is to work to cut the poor, hungry, elderly, disabled, ill and others off from any means of assistance.

That is a pretty dishonest mis-characterization of the conservative position. Conservatives are okay with cutting food stamps because they believe communities, not the government, should take care of the poor. To characterize their position on food stamps as lacking compassion and damaging to the poor is completely off-base.


2. Minimum Wage

Compassionate conservatives are fighting tooth and nail to stop efforts to bring the minimum wage up. In fact, many of them believe there shouldn’t be a minimum wage at all.

Right, they want to cut the minimum wage, but they also want to eliminate a lot of the programs and things that drive up the cost of living in the first place. If they are successful and correct, you wouldn't need the minimum wage to be higher, because the cost of living would be lower and thus people would have no problem living on minimum wage as it is.


3. Unemployment Benefits

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul said recently that extending unemployment benefits for the long term unemployed would be a “disservice” because, he says, unemployment benefits cause unemployment. "When you allow people to be on unemployment insurance for 99 weeks, you're causing them to become part of this perpetual unemployed group in our economy. And it really - while it seems good, it actually does a disservice to the people you're trying to help."

*shrug* It's true. My brother was on unemployment and when it ran out, he got an extension. Did he look for work? Nope. He filled out the necessary applications to keep receiving benefits, but he never showed the motivation or drive and never followed up any of those applications. He didn't need to, he made enough off unemployment to get by.

I wouldn't have believed that argument, if I hadn't witnessed it in action.


4. Healthcare

Paul Ryan has called our government safety-net programs “a hammock that lulls able-bodied people to lives of dependency and complacency, that drains them of their will.” It is pretty clear at this point what the rest of the Republicans think of the idea of helping the poor and uninsured get healthcare. They are trying to nullify the existing law (passed by Congress, signed by the President, ruled legal by the courts and confirmed in the 2012 election) and Republican states are practically seceding from the United States to avoid expanding Medicaid to cover more people, even though the federal government is picking up the entire tab.

Okay, "practically seceding from the United States to avoid expanding Medicaid" is just stupid. Sorry, Cigar, but the guy who wrote this article you linked to is an idiot.

As for clarifying conservative positions on healthcare, again, they believe local communities should be taking care of the poor in their communities, not government. So once again, you can't claim they lack compassion or are just throwing the poor out to rot in the streets like some Dickens book.


5. Immigrants


As with healthcare, it is pretty clear where Republicans stand on the idea of (non-European, white) people immigrating to the United States. They want them out. In fact, it is pretty clear where they stand on the idea of allowing people to stay even if they were brought to the country as children: they want them out, too.


Republican leaders are blocking the new Senate-passed comprehensive immigration reform bill from even coming to a vote in the House — because it will pass. They understand that this will enrage the Republican base and cause many incumbents to face primaries. Displays of compassion are not welcome in the Republican Tea Party base.

Meh, I honestly don't have anything to say here. Their position on immigration is pretty fucked up, it's true.


6. Corporate Taxes


To be fair, there is one group conservatives can be very, very compassionate toward: the wealthy and their corporations. While demanding cuts in food stamps, healthcare, unemployment benefits, etc., they are always, always insistent on cutting taxes for the fortunate few.

Again, dishonest characterization. They believe in low corporate taxes because they believe that corporations just pass those taxes on to their consumers. Which, given the data, appears to be true. The biggest corporations, the biggest earners in this country, pay the smallest amount of taxes. In some cases, big corps actually pay a NEGATIVE tax, which means they are not only not paying taxes, but are actually earning money off taxes. We are essentially paying them to not pay taxes.

So they can't be accused of not being compassionate here, either.


So keep your eye out for people claiming to be “compassionate conservatives.” It is an oxymoron, which means it sucks the oxygen out of the meaning of the words and is moronic to boot. In other words, it’s just the same old bullpucky

Sorry, but I don't live in a partisan bubble. I grew up surrounded by conservatives. They are some of the most compassionate people I know. Anyone who tries to say otherwise can quite frankly fuck off.

Mainecoons
12-12-2013, 07:51 PM
That post was worth waiting for!

Chris
12-12-2013, 08:52 PM
That post was worth waiting for!

Indeed, but you know it will fall on deaf ears.

We could take bets on what picture will be posted in reply!

Mini Me
12-12-2013, 09:22 PM
Compassionate conservatism was coined to spin the liberalism of George Bush and neocons. In effect, it is liberalism. One would only wish that that didn't exist.

A kinder, gentler fascism!

Bush, a liberal? LOL!