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shaarona
12-12-2013, 08:22 PM
Saudi Arabian top cleric calls suicide bombers 'criminals'RIYADH: Saudi Arabia's grand mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah al-Sheikh (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Abdul-Aziz-bin-Abdullah-al-Sheikh) branded suicide bombers (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/suicide-bombers) as "criminals" who will go to "hell," a local daily reported on Thursday.

Suicide bombings are "great crimes" and bombers are "criminals who rush themselves to hell by their actions," Sheikh said during a lecture in Riyadh a few days ago, according to Al-Hayat.

Sheikh described suicide bombers as "robbed of their minds ... who have been used (as tools) to destroy themselves and societies."

In February 2010, Sheikh denounced terrorism (http://timesofindia.speakingtree.in/topics/life/terrorism) as un-Islamic and condemned the killing of civilians, saying such attacks have nothing to do with the Muslim religion.

His latest remarks come after a preliminary inquiry into a December 5 suicide car bombing and assault on a Yemen defence ministry complex found that most assailants were Saudis. Fifty-six people were killed in the attack.

Al-Qaida (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Al-Qaeda) in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), which was formed from a merger of the jihadist network's Saudi and Yemeni branches, has claimed responsibility for the attack.

On Tuesday, a Saudi court jailed an al-Qaida-linked jihadist for 16 years for plotting to kill Sheikh and other clerics.

Al-Qaida and other jihadists view the religious establishment of Saudi Arabia as an extension of the state and largely disregard its rulings.

Saudi jihadists have been accused of numerous suicide attacks in Iraq, and 15 of the 19 perpetrators of the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States were Saudis.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Saudi-Arabian-top-cleric-calls-suicide-bombers-criminals/articleshow/27246203.cms?prtpage=1

Singularity
12-12-2013, 08:29 PM
The whole promise of paradise for terrorist "martyrs" is derived from a hadith, or written saying of Muhammad, that the vast majority of Muslims don't consider to be valid not just on moral grounds but also because it's probably conjecture. "Mainstream" Islamic leaders making declarations like this don't really change that situation much. Though if Al Qaeda were to argue that Saudi religious leaders are an organ of the monarchy, well, they wouldn't be far off the mark. Just about everything in Saudi that has any importance is an arm of the state or has a key link to it.

shaarona
12-12-2013, 08:47 PM
The whole promise of paradise for terrorist "martyrs" is derived from a hadith, or written saying of Muhammad, that the vast majority of Muslims don't consider to be valid not just on moral grounds but also because it's probably conjecture. "Mainstream" Islamic leaders making declarations like this don't really change that situation much. Though if Al Qaeda were to argue that Saudi religious leaders are an organ of the monarchy, well, they wouldn't be far off the mark. Just about everything in Saudi that has any importance is an arm of the state or has a key link to it.


I agree with you.. Another thing that's happened is that the GCC met yesterday and asked all foreign fighters to leave Syria.

Ten days ago this same cleric asked young Saudis not to go to Syria to fight.. saying they should pray for the Syrians instead.

They have been pretty vocal of late.

Codename Section
12-12-2013, 10:16 PM
It would have been nice if they were more vocal ten years or so ago.

shaarona
12-12-2013, 10:22 PM
It would have been nice if they were more vocal ten years or so ago.

Oh they have been, but the Western media didn't pick up on it.

Codename Section
12-12-2013, 10:23 PM
Oh they have been, but the Western media didn't pick up on it.

Or their media I guess.

shaarona
12-12-2013, 10:36 PM
Or their media I guess.


I have been reading Arab newspapers for about 15 years or more.

The Saudis have been fighting terrorists for a long time now.. Some they shoot.. some go to prison and others have been successfully rehabbed.

Codename Section
12-12-2013, 10:42 PM
I have been reading Arab newspapers for about 15 years or more.

The Saudis have been fighting terrorists for a long time now.. Some they shoot.. some go to prison and others have been successfully rehabbed.

Have you read about the rehab?

Nevermind, have fun with this thread.

shaarona
12-12-2013, 10:54 PM
Have you read about the rehab?

Nevermind, have fun with this thread.

I still have ties in Arabia.