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Cigar
12-17-2013, 08:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0A_P9kNBc&feature=youtube_gdata_player 

Even back in 1948 as a Democrat, Ronald Reagan knew the truth about Economics.

But Reagan later found that he could be more successful as a Republicans telling Conservatives what they want to hear, rather that telling the truth. Therefore he put his name on it: Reaganomics :wink: Now History is Telling The Truth :wink:

IB4 the deny deny deny deny deny deny

Peter1469
12-17-2013, 10:19 AM
Reagan switched to the GOP as he saw that those policies weren't working.

Cigar
12-17-2013, 10:20 AM
Reagan switched to the GOP as he saw that those policies weren't working.

What Policy are you talking about?

Also ... was what he was saying true or not?

BTW: how's Reaganomics working in your world?

Codename Section
12-17-2013, 10:47 AM
Looks like nothing's working. People tend to think they can control something as diverse as global economies by writing laws. That's because they're stupid.

patrickt
12-17-2013, 11:19 AM
Mr. Macho prefers attacking the dead. Apparently he thinks Ronald Reagan did tell the truth at least once. That puts him ahead of Glorious Leader.

jillian
12-17-2013, 11:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0A_P9kNBc&feature=youtube_gdata_player 

Even back in 1948 as a Democrat, Ronald Reagan knew the truth about Economics.

But Reagan later found that he could be more successful as a Republicans telling Conservatives what they want to hear, rather that telling the truth. Therefore he put his name on it: Reaganomics :wink: Now History is Telling The Truth :wink:

IB4 the deny deny deny deny deny deny

the faithful aren't going to like that.

Cigar
12-17-2013, 11:46 AM
Looks like nothing's working. People tend to think they can control something as diverse as global economies by writing laws. That's because they're stupid.

... and some people swear by those ideologies :laugh: they eve make GODs out of those people.

Silly ... isn't it. :laugh:

Mister D
12-17-2013, 11:52 AM
Reagan switched to the GOP as he saw that those policies weren't working.

:laugh: Poor Cigar.

Captain Obvious
12-17-2013, 11:55 AM
BTW: how's Reaganomics working in your world?

While Reaganomics didn't me any good, it set Wild Bill Clinton up for a nice run and Reaganomics didn't fuck things up for me and especially my kids and grandkids like O'bamanomics is doing.

Cigar
12-17-2013, 11:59 AM
While Reaganomics didn't me any good, it set Wild Bill Clinton up for a nice run and Reaganomics didn't fuck things up for me and especially my kids and grandkids like O'bamanomics is doing.

How were things doing for you between 2007 and 2009?

Obamacare hasn't started .

Captain Obvious
12-17-2013, 01:07 PM
How were things doing for you between 2007 and 2009?

Obamacare hasn't started .

What are you - a fucking census taker?

Professor Peabody
12-17-2013, 04:21 PM
But Reagan later found that he could be more successful as a Republicans telling Conservatives what they want to hear, rather that telling the truth. Therefore he put his name on it: Reaganomics :wink: Now History is Telling The Truth :wink:

You can't handle the truth.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/charts/united-states-gdp-growth.png?s=gdp+cqoq&d1=20090101&d2=20131231

Obamanomics

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/charts/united-states-gdp-growth.png?s=gdp+cqoq&d1=19810101&d2=19861231

Reaganomics

One succeeded the other failed misrerably.

Mini Me
12-18-2013, 12:59 PM
Reagan switched to the GOP as he saw that those policies weren't working.

Not true!

Reagan switched over because J.Edgar Hoover was threatening him to testify in Congress about commies in the Screen Actors Guild, and Hoover suspected Reagan of being too pink!

So in order to save his sorry pink ass, he turned Red Baiter, and started blowing the whistle on his fellow actors in the SAG, destroying careers of innocent people, with his Witch Hunt.

Cigar
12-18-2013, 01:06 PM
You can't handle the truth.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/charts/united-states-gdp-growth.png?s=gdp+cqoq&d1=20090101&d2=20131231

Obamanomics

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/charts/united-states-gdp-growth.png?s=gdp+cqoq&d1=19810101&d2=19861231

Reaganomics

One succeeded the other failed misrerably.



Ooops ... chew slowly ... then swallow ... :laugh:

45 Straight Months Of Private Sector Job Growth

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/files/images/LeadershipPayrollEmployment120613.png

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=blog&id=172

Mini Me
12-18-2013, 01:09 PM
You can't handle the truth.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/charts/united-states-gdp-growth.png?s=gdp+cqoq&d1=20090101&d2=20131231

Obamanomics

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/charts/united-states-gdp-growth.png?s=gdp+cqoq&d1=19810101&d2=19861231

Reaganomics

One succeeded the other failed misrerably.

Jerry rigged charts do not tell the correct story at all.

Paul Volcker of the Fed(appointed by Carter) pinched off the high inflation caused by Nixon destroying the gold standard and defaulting on Bretton Woods foreign debt obligations, which put us on a floating runaway fiat currency that caused stagflation. Also, too many Arab petro dollars being dumped all at once, pushed inflation even higher.

Reagan deserves little credit for this, and it was Nixon who caused the huge inflation spiral with his acts.

AmazonTania
12-18-2013, 01:11 PM
Ooops ... chew slowly ... then swallow ... :laugh:

45 Straight Months Of Private Sector Job Growth

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/files/images/LeadershipPayrollEmployment120613.png

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=blog&id=172

The Great Depression had consistent private sector job growth as well. And so did the long Depression. Both of which lasted 10 years or more.

Cigar
12-18-2013, 01:11 PM
Auto //Deny Deny Deny Deny ///

AmazonTania
12-18-2013, 01:14 PM
The same two post in two different threads. How original.

Why would we want to discuss anything on a discussion forum? It's not like the purpose is to have dialogue or anything...

Mini Me
12-18-2013, 01:18 PM
While Reaganomics didn't me any good, it set Wild Bill Clinton up for a nice run and Reaganomics didn't fuck things up for me and especially my kids and grandkids like O'bamanomics is doing.

Obamanomics is just damage control for an economy so severely damaged by Wall Street greed and Rethuglican deregulators, that it will not likely recover for many years. It is too little, too late.

Now ask yourself the question; Where are these Rethuglican jobs bills, and what has the Scorched Earth Party done to help average Americans?

And don't try to bullshit me about Reid killing those phony jobs bills, or try to tell me that "strangling the beast" with austerity has helped the economy.

Cigar
12-18-2013, 01:22 PM
The same two post in two different threads. How original.

Why would we want to discuss anything on a discussion forum? It's not like the purpose is to have dialogue or anything...

I got an idea ... how about starting a PM campaign ... that will shut down anything you don't want in a discussion. :wink:

AmazonTania
12-18-2013, 01:23 PM
Obamanomics is just damage control for an economy so severely damaged by Wall Street greed and Rethuglican deregulators, that it will not likely recover for many years. It is too little, too late.

Now ask yourself the question; Where are these Rethuglican jobs bills, and what has the Scorched Earth Party done to help average Americans?

And don't try to bullshit me about Reid killing those phony jobs bills, or try to tell me that "strangling the beast" with austerity has helped the economy.

You don't need a jobs bill to help the economy.

And there was no deregulation. You don't got from 63,000 pages of regulation in 1981 to 74,000+ pages in 2007 and call it 'deregulation.'

Deregulation is defined by an act of removing or reducing the number state or federal regulations. This did not happen.

Mini Me
12-18-2013, 01:23 PM
The Great Depression had consistent private sector job growth as well. And so did the long Depression. Both of which lasted 10 years or more.

The jobs added today are mostly low wage temp jobs and burger flipper jobs. There is a net loss of millions of decent paying jobs, and the real unemployment rate is more like 15%. The depression never ended!

Cigar cannot help herself. She is a devout Obamunist!

The Xl
12-18-2013, 01:24 PM
Ooops ... chew slowly ... then swallow ... :laugh:

45 Straight Months Of Private Sector Job Growth

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/files/images/LeadershipPayrollEmployment120613.png

http://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?p=blog&id=172

Part time and/or minimum wage jobs are helping everyone.

Yay.

Cigar
12-18-2013, 01:26 PM
You don't need a jobs bill to help the economy.



As the Obstructionist found out the hard way ... they didn't make Obama a 1 Term President :laugh:

AmazonTania
12-18-2013, 01:27 PM
I got an idea ... how about starting a PM campaign ... that will shut down anything you don't want in a discussion. :wink:

Then I wouldn't be able to point out how stupid you are being. But don't waste time on what is best for me. You have a business to run.

Or not run, rather.

AmazonTania
12-18-2013, 01:27 PM
As the Obstructionist found out the hard way ... they didn't make Obama a 1 Term President :laugh:

And this has anything to do with what I have said, how?

Mister D
12-18-2013, 01:28 PM
Then I wouldn't be able to point out how stupid you are being. But don't waste time on what is best for me. You have a business to run.

Or not run, rather.

It only takes a a quick glance to make sure the fries aren't burning.

Cigar
12-18-2013, 01:28 PM
Part time and/or minimum wage jobs are helping everyone.

Yay.

A Job, any Job is sure better than being labeled Taker by The Conservatives.

They can't have it both ways.

Codename Section
12-18-2013, 01:28 PM
You don't need a jobs bill to help the economy.

And there was no deregulation. You don't got from 63,000 pages of regulation in 1981 to 74,000+ pages in 2007 and call it 'deregulation.'

Deregulation is defined by an act of removing or reducing the number state or federal regulations. This did not happen.


I love AmazonTania

The Xl
12-18-2013, 01:29 PM
A Job, any Job is sure better than being labeled Taker by The Conservatives.

They can't have it both ways.

You can't talk up Obama and use jobs as a talking point when all the good and decent jobs are going up in smoke and being replaced by shitty ones.

Cigar
12-18-2013, 01:29 PM
And this has anything to do with what I have said, how?

Yes ... in "my" "opinion" :wink:

Mister D
12-18-2013, 01:29 PM
A Job, any Job is sure better than being labeled Taker by The Conservatives.

They can't have it both ways.

You're not arguing with a conservative

Cigar
12-18-2013, 01:32 PM
You can't talk up Obama and use jobs as a talking point when all the good and decent jobs are going up in smoke and being replaced by shitty ones.

I'm doing my part ... I just took on 2 additional Sr. Java Developers.

They are getting $80 - 100 per hour consulting fees ... and that ain't shitty ... even in Illinois.

Cigar
12-18-2013, 01:34 PM
I love @AmazonTania (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=852)

Me Too ... :grin: ... it's something about that name the does it for me. :wink:

Any Women named Amazon could most likely teach me anything. :grin:

AmazonTania
12-18-2013, 01:34 PM
Yes ... in "my" "opinion" :wink:

I understand it's 'your opinion.' I fail to see how it ties into my statement.

Especially since Obama has gotten all the Job Bills that he wanted to introduce passed, they've done zero to actually help the economy, and Obama got re-elected anyway.

There was no obstructionism, but I guess you just wanted that little tidbit somewhere I guess...

AmazonTania
12-18-2013, 01:37 PM
A Job, any Job is sure better than being labeled Taker by The Conservatives.

They can't have it both ways.

So you can have it both ways that jobs are being created consistently, but still be angry that they're low-skill, low wage, service sector jobs and Corporations aren't paying their workers well?

Do tell...

Cigar
12-18-2013, 01:42 PM
So you can have it both ways that jobs are being created consistently, but still be angry that they're low-skill, low wage, service sector jobs and Corporations aren't paying their workers well?

Do tell...

The Government, you know, the one Obama has influence over, cut more 700,000 Jobs to the GOPs delight.

Would you like President Obama to put those employees who we are paying Unemployment to, to maybe do some Infrastructure support?

AmazonTania
12-18-2013, 01:46 PM
The Government, you know, the one Obama has influence over, cut more 700,000 Jobs to the GOPs delight.

Would you like President Obama to put those employees who we are paying Unemployment to, to maybe do some Infrastructure support?

What 700,000 government jobs have been cut?

And the economy doesn't need any more temporary jobs.