View Full Version : Black Americans Greatly Prospered during Ronald Reagan's Presidency
Libhater
12-17-2013, 01:04 PM
From the end of 1982 to 1989, black unemployment dropped 9 percentage points (from 20.4 percent to 11.4 percent),
while white unemployment dropped by only 4 percentage points. #11
Black household income went up 84 percent from 1980 to 1990, versus a white household income of 68 percent. #12
The number of black-owned businesses increased from 308,000 in 1982 to 424,000 in 1987, a 38 percent increase in
the total number of firms in the United. #13
Receipts by black owned firms more than doubled, from $9.6 billion to $19.8 billion. #14
#11...Ibid, 42, pg. 34
#12..."Blacks Prospered Under Reagan." NewsMax. June 10. 2004
#13...Rubenstein, Ed, "The Real Reagan Record." National Review, August 31, 1992, 42
"Stupid Black Men by Larry Elder...pages, 34-35 :grin:
Captain Obvious
12-17-2013, 01:06 PM
Based on that theory you should hate Reagan.
nathanbforrest45
12-17-2013, 01:14 PM
They will still vote against their own best interest because they have been promised another 40 acres and a mule for free.
And thus marked the first time I saw "Ibid" used for a citation on a political forum (even if it's used incorrectly here). Thanks for making my getaway from academics more like my academics.
Libhater
12-17-2013, 01:21 PM
They will still vote against their own best interest because they have been promised another 40 acres and a mule for free.
Lest we forget their (blacks) interest in receiving free obamphones and an increase in food stamps.
Libhater
12-17-2013, 01:25 PM
Based on that theory you should hate Reagan.
And what 'theory' might that be? All of the positive statistics for the welfare of black people soared during the Reagan administration of the 1980s. And why would I hate America's greatest president?
iustitia
12-17-2013, 01:37 PM
I believe he's talking about your adoration for the Klan. Which you will recall is racist.
Libhater
12-17-2013, 01:39 PM
I believe he's talking about your adoration for the Klan. Which you will recall is racist.
I don't recall that the KLAN is racist. Got any proof of such?
The Xl
12-17-2013, 01:40 PM
He also souped up the war on drugs, sending many non violent blacks to prison.
Let's not make Ronnie out to be some savior for blacks.
nathanbforrest45
12-17-2013, 01:40 PM
Libhater
Even I know the Klan is racist. Its their entire reason for existence. To deny that is just foolish.
iustitia
12-17-2013, 01:43 PM
Is he a troll or not? I walked away from his apartheid thread sure he was a troll but people still take him seriously. I'm relatively new, can anyone confirm?
Captain Obvious
12-17-2013, 01:44 PM
I believe he's talking about your adoration for the Klan. Which you will recall is racist.
Distancing yourself from your fellow RWNJ?
You know, because everyone knows all RWNJ's are inherently racist.
Libhater
12-17-2013, 01:55 PM
Libhater
Even I know the Klan is racist. Its their entire reason for existence. To deny that is just foolish.
Let me make an analogy or a comparison of sorts between the Klan of today to the progressive Marxists of today. If what you are saying that today's KLAN is racist, then couldn't a similar presumption be made that today's progressive Marxists who have adopted the murderous agenda(s) of anti American Eastern regimes be considered more of a threat to our way of life then that of a benign and reclusive sect of individuals called the KLAN who just want to be left alone to live life among their own people?
Captain Obvious
12-17-2013, 01:57 PM
Hey - why stop with the KKK?
The Nazi's did a lot of constructive things too, go for it.
Mainecoons
12-17-2013, 01:58 PM
Is he a troll or not? I walked away from his apartheid thread sure he was a troll but people still take him seriously. I'm relatively new, can anyone confirm?
He appears to be to be a white supremacist. What's the difference between his obvious racial preference versus Cigar's?
Captain Obvious
12-17-2013, 01:59 PM
He appears to be to be a white supremacist. What's the difference between his obvious racial preference versus Cigar's?
At your age and self-proclaimed intelligence, it shouldn't have to be explained to you.
Sympathetic toward his cause?
iustitia
12-17-2013, 02:07 PM
Distancing yourself from your fellow RWNJ?
You know, because everyone knows all RWNJ's are inherently racist.Pardon?
Libhater
12-17-2013, 02:08 PM
He appears to be to be a white supremacist. What's the difference between his obvious racial preference versus Cigar's?
I'm no WHITE Supremacist, rather, I'm a White Nationalist. You do know the difference, don't you? Tell me MC, are you comfortable with all of the black racist groups like the Congressional Black Congress and the NAACP and or an Al sharpless pushing their pro black agenda forward at the expense of the WHITE man? What is it exactly that makes you feel uncomfortable when a WHITE man or a WHITE group of people stick up for their own kind? There is no reason to suggest that my race beliefs or my actions concerning my personal lifestyle should be misconstrued by calling me a Supremacist. I love all people regardless of race.
Captain Obvious
12-17-2013, 02:10 PM
Pardon?
You're excused.
nathanbforrest45
12-17-2013, 02:11 PM
Pardon?
He is talking about me. He can't tell the difference between Conservatives and Nazi's.
Captain Obvious
12-17-2013, 02:12 PM
He is talking about me. He can't tell the difference between Conservatives and Nazi's.
For one thing, Nazis were a little less institutionalizing.
(HURRRR!!!)
I'm no WHITE Supremacist, rather, I'm a White Nationalist. You do know the difference, don't you? Tell me MC, are you comfortable with all of the black racist groups like the Congressional Black Congress and the NAACP and or an Al sharpless pushing their pro black agenda forward at the expense of the WHITE man? What is it exactly that makes you feel uncomfortable when a WHITE man or a WHITE group of people stick up for their own kind? There is no reason to suggest that my race beliefs or my actions concerning my personal lifestyle should be misconstrued by calling me a Supremacist. I love all people regardless of race.
Right, because the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, etc.-- that's who's really running shit in this country.
nathanbforrest45
12-17-2013, 02:13 PM
Libhater
Those groups are just as wrong as the Klan. However, to say, "well they do it too" is not a valid defense. We should be One from Many, not multicultural. That is why so many African and even European nations have the problems they do, they are not united as one people.
Libhater
12-17-2013, 02:17 PM
Right, because the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, etc.-- that's who's really running shit in this country.
Those people/groups are merely an offshoot or splinter factions if you will of a growing anti American progressive agenda to destroy our nation, our society, our culture and our Constitution in one great swoop.
Libhater
12-17-2013, 02:21 PM
Libhater
Those groups are just as wrong as the Klan. However, to say, "well they do it too" is not a valid defense. We should be One from Many, not multicultural. That is why so many African and even European nations have the problems they do, they are not united as one people.
What exactly is the KLAN wrong about? "well they do it too"? Do what?
The Xl
12-17-2013, 02:26 PM
Right, because the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, etc.-- that's who's really running shit in this country.
Lol this.
Captain Obvious
12-17-2013, 02:27 PM
http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/f82/616/4d2/resized/ron-paul-racist-meme-generator-ron-paul-can-t-be-racist-who-s-heard-of-an-old-racist-republican-from-texas-379a3c.jpg?1333778320.jpg
Cigar
12-17-2013, 03:21 PM
From the end of 1982 to 1989, black unemployment dropped 9 percentage points (from 20.4 percent to 11.4 percent),
while white unemployment dropped by only 4 percentage points. #11
Black household income went up 84 percent from 1980 to 1990, versus a white household income of 68 percent. #12
The number of black-owned businesses increased from 308,000 in 1982 to 424,000 in 1987, a 38 percent increase in
the total number of firms in the United. #13
Receipts by black owned firms more than doubled, from $9.6 billion to $19.8 billion. #14
#11...Ibid, 42, pg. 34
#12..."Blacks Prospered Under Reagan." NewsMax. June 10. 2004
#13...Rubenstein, Ed, "The Real Reagan Record." National Review, August 31, 1992, 42
"Stupid Black Men by Larry Elder...pages, 34-35 :grin:
Ok so ... the last I checked, today December 17th 2013 :wink:
Back then was MTV ... now it's iTunes
Ok so ... the last I checked, today December 17th 2013 :wink:
Back then was MTV ... now it's iTunes
MTV is now in a very sad state.
Mister D
12-17-2013, 03:31 PM
MTV is now in a very sad state.
Since the early 1990s. It just got progressively worse until it was just unwatchable.
iustitia
12-17-2013, 03:41 PM
You mean pregnant teenagers aren't music?
You mean pregnant teenagers aren't music?
Common misconception, but no.
Mister D
12-17-2013, 03:50 PM
They actually started making propaganda films by the early 2000s (e.g. Anatomy of a Hate Crime). How do you go from musci videos to taking yourself way too seriously?
Cigar
12-17-2013, 03:51 PM
MTV is now in a very sad state.
The Chicks aren't even hot anymore ...
Libhater
12-17-2013, 04:45 PM
Ok so ... the last I checked, today December 17th 2013 :wink:
Back then was MTV ... now it's iTunes
And the black communities are doing so much better since obummer has been president, how? I see you're not too impressed with the growth of the black people while Reagan was president. Perhaps you could use obummer as a likely comparison tool in showing us just how well your black folk have fared during these past 5 years as compared to how they did while Reagan was president. If you need statistics to do the comparison, I'll be more than happy to supply you with them. Just ask.
iustitia
12-17-2013, 04:46 PM
Why do people still say Obummer like it's witty or edgy?
Libhater
12-17-2013, 05:42 PM
Why do people still say Obummer like it's witty or edgy?
Has nothing to do with wit, rather, it has to do with expressing our feelings and the truth concerning this turkey's miserable and destructive time as potus. Cabish?
Has nothing to do with wit, rather, it has to do with expressing our feelings and the truth concerning this turkey's miserable and destructive time as potus. Cabish?
you finally got something right
Libhater
12-17-2013, 06:36 PM
you finally got something right
Glad you picked up on that. There are so many negative terms describing obummer, that calling him witless becomes redundant.
roadmaster
12-17-2013, 06:42 PM
Right now 1 in 9 unemployed-blacks
One in 54 unemployed whites. Hispanics make more than blacks on the average working. Do I care no. I care about America as a whole not race. Some races help each other and some don't.
countryboy
12-17-2013, 08:27 PM
I don't recall that the KLAN is racist. Got any proof of such?
Do you even realize how absolutely idiotic that sounds? I suppose the Black Panthers aren't racist either, right?
Libhater
12-17-2013, 09:02 PM
Do you even realize how absolutely idiotic that sounds? I suppose the Black Panthers aren't racist either, right?
I see you couldn't come up with even one example of a current day KLAN member espousing racism. There are many examples of Black Panther racism going back just a few years. Weren't those a couple of Black Panthers who stood in front of a Philly voting center holding billy clubs and intimidating voters?
roadmaster
12-17-2013, 11:04 PM
I see you couldn't come up with even one example of a current day KLAN member espousing racism. There are many examples of Black Panther racism going back just a few years. Weren't those a couple of Black Panthers who stood in front of a Philly voting center holding billy clubs and intimidating voters? Yes they were saying "we gonna have to kill us some white crackers". The black nationalist calls for killing Jews and whites. I hear one of the BPs were in jail a while back.
Chloe
12-17-2013, 11:11 PM
I see you couldn't come up with even one example of a current day KLAN member espousing racism. There are many examples of Black Panther racism going back just a few years. Weren't those a couple of Black Panthers who stood in front of a Philly voting center holding billy clubs and intimidating voters?
This is so stupid I'm sorry. The black panthers are racists, everybody knows and accepts that fact except for members and fans of the black panthers, just like everybody knows the KKK is a bunch of racists as well with the exception being their members and supporters. If the current klan is quiet about espousing racism it isn't because they aren't racists anymore it's because they are trying to soften their image...that's all. The same hate and racism still exists within their members and supporters but instead they just talk amongst each other more often than they do publicly with others who will obviously see right through them.
Codename Section
12-17-2013, 11:20 PM
I see you couldn't come up with even one example of a current day KLAN member espousing racism. There are many examples of Black Panther racism going back just a few years. Weren't those a couple of Black Panthers who stood in front of a Philly voting center holding billy clubs and intimidating voters?
That would require spending time with retards who dress up like ghosts instead of hanging out with normal people. Why would someone do that?
Libhater
12-18-2013, 07:23 AM
That would require spending time with retards who dress up like ghosts instead of hanging out with normal people. Why would someone do that?
I don't know, you tell me. You still haven't given us an example of current day racism coming from the Klan.
Libhater
12-18-2013, 07:33 AM
This is so stupid I'm sorry. The black panthers are racists, everybody knows and accepts that fact except for members and fans of the black panthers, just like everybody knows the KKK is a bunch of racists as well with the exception being their members and supporters. If the current klan is quiet about espousing racism it isn't because they aren't racists anymore it's because they are trying to soften their image...that's all. The same hate and racism still exists within their members and supporters but instead they just talk amongst each other more often than they do publicly with others who will obviously see right through them.
The Black Panthers prove their racism with current day examples, whereas, you still couldn't come up with an example of a current day KLAN member espousing racism. I've repeatedly said that KLAN members of today have as their priority a need and or a mission to protect the WHITE race from such idiots that we see ragging on them here at this forum etc. They, the KLAN want to lead a segregated lifestyle far away from the racist tensions, the race baiters like al sharpless, and the racist crime that has plagued our inner cities from as far back as the 1950s. What problem do you have with a group of people who want to preserve their race, live life out in segregated peace, and to simply avoid all of the race baiting that we see on a daily basis here in America? Has a KLAN member ever hurt you personally? I'm not talking about a Klan member hurting your thin-skinned feelings here, I'm talking about them hurting you via a physical crime.
BTW, and back to the OP for a moment: Are you impressed of how the black people prospered under Ronald Reagan's tenure as potus? In essence, the KLAN are also helping black people prosper by staying clear of all of their cultural/social problems. Without the KLAN people around, the blacks won't have a boogeyman in which to blame all of their sociological and criminal problems on. Just sayin.
Cigar
12-18-2013, 08:10 AM
Do you even realize how absolutely idiotic that sounds? I suppose the Black Panthers aren't racist either, right?
Don't bother dignifying the statement, just revel in it's ignorance' :rollseyes:
Like Oprah said: Generations 'marinated' in racism will need to die out for discrimination to end across the world
Unfortunately when guess log-on to this Forum, this is the type of racist representation and reputation this forum turns a blind eye to and in essence ... endorses.
Libhater
12-18-2013, 08:32 AM
Don't bother dignifying the statement, just revel in it's ignorance' :rollseyes:
Like Oprah said: Generations 'marinated' in racism will need to die out for discrimination to end across the world
Unfortunately when guess log-on to this Forum, this is the type of racist representation and reputation this forum turns a blind eye to and in essence ... endorses.
LMFAO!!!! Oprah???????
Mainecoons
12-18-2013, 08:33 AM
When you can't argue with the numbers, trot out Oprah!
:rofl:
jillian
12-18-2013, 08:35 AM
He also souped up the war on drugs, sending many non violent blacks to prison.
Let's not make Ronnie out to be some savior for blacks.
wanna talk about arms for hostgages?
Mainecoons
12-18-2013, 08:37 AM
No and none of that has anything to do with the economic progress of blacks during the Reagan years. Keep trying to run away from that. It is fun to watch.
:grin:
Libhater
12-18-2013, 08:46 AM
No and none of that has anything to do with the economic progress of blacks during the Reagan years. Keep trying to run away from that. It is fun to watch.
:grin:
Yeah, you'll notice when facts get in the way of their usual agitprop rants that they run for the hills. It does make for some great humor.
Cigar
12-18-2013, 09:09 AM
When you can't argue with the numbers, trot out Oprah!
:rofl:
I kinda like Oprah's Numbers ($2.9 Billion), how can you argue with it.
Cigar
12-18-2013, 09:12 AM
No and none of that has anything to do with the economic progress of blacks during the Reagan years. Keep trying to run away from that. It is fun to watch.
:grin:
Reagan is dead ... let him rot peace with the rest of your hero's ...
Libhater
12-18-2013, 09:16 AM
Reagan is dead ... let him rot peace with the rest of your hero's ...
Reagan was everyone's' hero...especially the hero for America at a time when we had just suffered through Carter's disastrous presidency. Americans felt better about themselves and about the country of America while he was pres.
Cigar
12-18-2013, 09:30 AM
Reagan was everyone's' hero...especially the hero for America at a time when we had just suffered through Carter's disastrous presidency. Americans felt better about themselves and about the country of America while he was pres.
Reagan is dead and gone ... forever ... just like all The GOP Plans. R.I.P
Change Happened ... deal with it, or not ... no one cares if you do or not.
The World Moved on, have fun in your dream world, because none of it is ever coming back
Chloe
12-18-2013, 09:48 AM
The Black Panthers prove their racism with current day examples, whereas, you still couldn't come up with an example of a current day KLAN member espousing racism. I've repeatedly said that KLAN members of today have as their priority a need and or a mission to protect the WHITE race from such idiots that we see ragging on them here at this forum etc. They, the KLAN want to lead a segregated lifestyle far away from the racist tensions, the race baiters like al sharpless, and the racist crime that has plagued our inner cities from as far back as the 1950s. What problem do you have with a group of people who want to preserve their race, live life out in segregated peace, and to simply avoid all of the race baiting that we see on a daily basis here in America? Has a KLAN member ever hurt you personally? I'm not talking about a Klan member hurting your thin-skinned feelings here, I'm talking about them hurting you via a physical crime.
BTW, and back to the OP for a moment: Are you impressed of how the black people prospered under Ronald Reagan's tenure as potus? In essence, the KLAN are also helping black people prosper by staying clear of all of their cultural/social problems. Without the KLAN people around, the blacks won't have a boogeyman in which to blame all of their sociological and criminal problems on. Just sayin.
You're unbelievable, seriously. You don't even realize that all you are doing is trying to find people worse, although the same, than yourself and your own beliefs to help justify it all in your mind. Who cares if one hate group is currently more hateful than the other? It's not like the klan is actively trying to encourage peace amongst everybody, all they want is peace for people with white skin and everybody else be damned, just as groups like the black panthers want for people only with black skin. Both groups are stupid and wrong and divisive. Racist tensions exist BECAUSE of racist groups like the KKK and the Black Panthers. Segregating yourself due to skin color doesn't ease racial tensions it just exposes the fact that people who want an all white or all black or all whatever community based on skin color are the ones that actually continue the division of people, the distrust of people, and the judging of people all over something that they have zero control over, that being the skin you were born with.
YOU are the boogeyman, along with other KKK members, neo-nazis, black panthers, and so on.
As for your question I wasn't alive when Reagan was president and I don't know much about what happened when he was president other than the berlin wall, so I can't speak all that intelligently about him, but I can tell you that the KKK does nothing to help anybody except for white and scared racists and bigots. And no, I have not had a KKK member physically hurt me personally, but then again i'm not going to seek one out or interact with one anyway.
Cigar
12-18-2013, 09:52 AM
You're unbelievable, seriously. You don't even realize that all you are doing is trying to find people worse, although the same, than yourself and your own beliefs to help justify it all in your mind. Who cares if one hate group is currently more hateful than the other? It's not like the klan is actively trying to encourage peace amongst everybody, all they want is peace for people with white skin and everybody else be damned, just as groups like the black panthers want for people only with black skin. Both groups are stupid and wrong and divisive. Racist tensions exist BECAUSE of racist groups like the KKK and the Black Panthers. Segregating yourself due to skin color doesn't ease racial tensions it just exposes the fact that people who want an all white or all black or all whatever community based on skin color are the ones that actually continue the division of people, the distrust of people, and the judging of people all over something that they have zero control over, that being the skin you were born with.
YOU are the boogeyman, along with other KKK members, neo-nazis, black panthers, and so on.
As for your question I wasn't alive when Reagan was president and I don't know much about what happened when he was president other than the berlin wall, so I can't speak all that intelligently about him, but I can tell you that the KKK does nothing to help anybody except for white and scared racists and bigots. And no, I have not had a KKK member physically hurt me personally, but then again i'm not going to seek one out or interact with one anyway.
You should ask our own home grown Klansman if they ever see anyone on this e forum ever worshiping or praising Black Panthers .... :rollseyes:
Libhater
12-18-2013, 02:25 PM
You're unbelievable, seriously. You don't even realize that all you are doing is trying to find people worse, although the same, than yourself and your own beliefs to help justify it all in your mind. Who cares if one hate group is currently more hateful than the other?
Your premise that the KLAN is a hate group is obviously flawed from the get-go. You said yourself that you don't know of or haven't met a KLAN member, so how is it you have the unmitigated gall to call someone a hater when you have no idea of their thoughts or of their lifestyle?
It's not like the klan is actively trying to encourage peace amongst everybody, all they want is peace for people with white skin and everybody else be damned,
Oh I see, they aren't as active as you are in trying to encourage peace amongst everybody. What exactly does an anti war activist such as yourself do to promote peace among our enemies? You think peace talks are possible with American hating terrorists?
Racist tensions exist BECAUSE of racist groups like the KKK and the Black Panthers.
You seem like a nice girl, but excuse me for saying this in the most constructive way I know, but when it comes to world affairs, to politics or even to understanding the sociology of the various races of people---you are extremely ignorant and immature.
Segregating yourself due to skin color doesn't ease racial tensions it just exposes the fact that people who want an all white or all black or all whatever community based on skin color are the ones that actually continue the division of people, the distrust of people, and the judging of people all over something that they have zero control over, that being the skin you were born with.
You tell me how the segregating of the races could possibly lead to racial tensions? If I for instance were to segregate myself from any black influence or black presence, then how could I possibly be seen as someone engaged in racial tensions? I see that you don't have any patience for or any desire to see WHITE people fend for themselves to save their heritage and their FOUNDERS history.
YOU are the boogeyman, along with other KKK members, neo-nazis, black panthers, and so on.
BOO!!!
As for your question I wasn't alive when Reagan was president and I don't know much about what happened when he was president other than the berlin wall, so I can't speak all that intelligently about him, but I can tell you that the KKK does nothing to help anybody except for white and scared racists and bigots. And no, I have not had a KKK member physically hurt me personally, but then again i'm not going to seek one out or interact with one anyway.
You didn't have to be alive during Reagan's terms as president, but that fact alone shouldn't or wouldn't prevent you from learning about American history by picking up a history book or two. Again, your immaturity in these matters has come to a peak. You only need to scroll back to the OP where I listed the favorable economic numbers for blacks during Reagan's two terms of the 1980s. You may be the #1 leftist on these boards, but as such you can't deny the fact that black people prospered under Reagan's terms as president.
Cigar
12-18-2013, 02:27 PM
:dang: More words of wisdom from the expert ...
http://thegrio.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/daverety.jpg?w=560
Gerrard Winstanley
12-18-2013, 02:52 PM
Your premise that the KLAN is a hate group is obviously flawed from the get-go. You said yourself that you don't know of or haven't met a KLAN member, so how is it you have the unmitigated gall to call someone a hater when you have no idea of their thoughts or of their lifestyle?
I'm really beginning to wonder if you're a liberal troll in disguise.
Libhater
12-18-2013, 03:49 PM
I'm really beginning to wonder if you're a liberal troll in disguise.
How's it feel to be so unsure about yourself? You need to find yourself a good base in which to work from and not let your wild imagination dictate your every move. I'm pulling for you pal.
Captain Obvious
12-18-2013, 04:11 PM
Saying supporting the KKK isn't inherently racist is like saying you can be a NASCAR fan and not like auto racing.
Just shut the fuck up already and go sell that shit to someone else.
Libhater
12-18-2013, 05:33 PM
Saying supporting the KKK isn't inherently racist is like saying you can be a NASCAR fan and not like auto racing.
Just shut the fuck up already and go sell that shit to someone else.
Prove the current KKK is racist and I'll promise to shut the fuck up just for your sake. And if by miracle you do find one instance where a current member of the KLAN is racist, what or how would his or her racist disposition affect you or affect the nation as a whole?
Mini Me
12-18-2013, 07:22 PM
Reagan is dead ... let him rot peace with the rest of your hero's ...
"And the worms ate into his brain" Pink Floyd
Anyone remember tyhe Reagan's Brain" segment by Doonesberry?
Cigar
12-18-2013, 07:27 PM
No one gives a shit about the kkk anymore, they are reduced to hiding on the Internet.
There over 1200 more days that Obama will be living in the White House, that's more than sticking it to the kkk and thats enough for me.
Mini Me
12-18-2013, 07:29 PM
Reagan was everyone's' hero...especially the hero for America at a time when we had just suffered through Carter's disastrous presidency. Americans felt better about themselves and about the country of America while he was pres.
"Everyones hero" hahahahah
It wasn't until after RR was dead, that Rethuglicans canonized him, and annoited him for sainthood.
Don't get me started, or I will blast Raygun the rest of this thread!
That's my specialty is destroying Rethuglican mythology!
Cigar
12-18-2013, 07:33 PM
"Everyones hero" hahahahah
It wasn't until after RR was dead, that Rethuglicans canonized him, and annoited him for sainthood.
Don't get me started, or I will blast Raygun the rest of this thread!
That's my specialty is destroying Rethuglican mythology!
Notice the direction they always have to go?
Backwards, that's their legacy.
MrJimmyDale
12-18-2013, 07:34 PM
Prove the current KKK is racist and I'll promise to shut the fuck up just for your sake. And if by miracle you do find one instance where a current member of the KLAN is racist, what or how would his or her racist disposition affect you or affect the nation as a whole? Believe me....The Klan is just as racist today as it was 30 years ago. I've lived it and seen it....and still see it. (I was born and raised for 25 years about 15 min from Philadelphia MS FYI...all of my family except me is still there)
Chloe
12-18-2013, 10:41 PM
Your premise that the KLAN is a hate group is obviously flawed from the get-go. You said yourself that you don't know of or haven't met a KLAN member, so how is it you have the unmitigated gall to call someone a hater when you have no idea of their thoughts or of their lifestyle?
I don't have to know a racist to know I don't like them
Oh I see, they aren't as active as you are in trying to encourage peace amongst everybody. What exactly does an anti war activist such as yourself do to promote peace among our enemies? You think peace talks are possible with American hating terrorists?
peace is possible if the primary aggressor also wants it. Since we are often the primary aggressor, whether through military force or economic pressure, it is up to us a lot of the times to decide if peace is possible
You seem like a nice girl, but excuse me for saying this in the most constructive way I know, but when it comes to world affairs, to politics or even to understanding the sociology of the various races of people---you are extremely ignorant and immature.
Just because I don't buy into the hate, ignorance, and fear of groups like the KKK doesn't make me ignorant or immature
You tell me how the segregating of the races could possibly lead to racial tensions? If I for instance were to segregate myself from any black influence or black presence, then how could I possibly be seen as someone engaged in racial tensions? I see that you don't have any patience for or any desire to see WHITE people fend for themselves to save their heritage and their FOUNDERS history.
Wanting segregated areas to preserve a particular race implies that being with the other race would lead to the other race's downfall. For example, white making a point to live separate from blacks implies that there is something wrong with blacks. It puts judgment on an entire group of people whose skin color is different from yours. I could care less what skin color our founders were. I don't follow or respect someone because of pigment....racists do though.
You didn't have to be alive during Reagan's terms as president, but that fact alone shouldn't or wouldn't prevent you from learning about American history by picking up a history book or two. Again, your immaturity in these matters has come to a peak. You only need to scroll back to the OP where I listed the favorable economic numbers for blacks during Reagan's two terms of the 1980s. You may be the #1 leftist on these boards, but as such you can't deny the fact that black people prospered under Reagan's terms as president.
I'm not sure what makes me the #1 leftist here but ok. I don't care about your stats honestly. For someone that hates to consider or own up to the racist past of the KKK you sure love bringing up the past to help support your point of view.
Libhater
12-19-2013, 08:27 AM
I'm not sure what makes me the #1 leftist here but ok. I don't care about your stats honestly.
Perhaps I was a tad bit hasty in assigning you the #1 lefty badge of dishonor for the forum. I simply didn't
include cigar with that ignoble title because I was concentrating on you and your post. However, I do think
that cigar would give you a run for the money as being the forum's #1 leftist.
Gerrard Winstanley
12-20-2013, 06:00 AM
How's it feel to be so unsure about yourself? You need to find yourself a good base in which to work from and not let your wild imagination dictate your every move. I'm pulling for you pal.
It's not even difficult to prove the current Klan is racist, though I won't waste my joint capacity. You'll likely then claim it's about "white heritage" and all that bullcrap the cross-burners have been selling to the ignorant since the 19th Century.
Libhater
12-20-2013, 07:34 AM
It's not even difficult to prove the current Klan is racist, though I won't waste my joint capacity. You'll likely then claim it's about "white heritage" and all that bullcrap the cross-burners have been selling to the ignorant since the 19th Century.
Cross burning bullcrap? I see you're down with 'White Heritage'. To each their own I suppose.
Cigar
12-20-2013, 07:44 AM
Perhaps I was a tad bit hasty in assigning you the #1 lefty badge of dishonor for the forum. I simply didn't
include cigar with that ignoble title because I was concentrating on you and your post. However, I do think
that cigar would give you a run for the money as being the forum's #1 leftist.
You won't get any apologies from me; I am THE Number #1 Bleeding Heart Liberal/Progressive on this Forum.
... any challengers, any problems? :afro:
Libhater
12-20-2013, 10:09 AM
You won't get any apologies from me; I am THE Number #1 Bleeding Heart Liberal/Progressive on this Forum.
... any challengers, any problems? :afro:
Al right, this confirms it, cigar is the king and the leading Black Panther on this forum. Good job.
Cigar
12-20-2013, 10:32 AM
Al right, this confirms it, cigar is the king and the leading Black Panther on this forum. Good job.
Black Panther? :rollseyes:
Bull Shit, Black Panthers are Pussy Cats compared to me. :laugh:
I follow-trough :laugh:
Libhater
12-20-2013, 03:06 PM
Black Panther? :rollseyes:
Bull Shit, Black Panthers are Pussy Cats compared to me. :laugh:
I follow-trough :laugh:
Yeah, looks like some of your Black Panther cohorts followed through as well.
During their heyday of the 1960s members of the Black Panthers murdered more than a dozen law-enforcement officers.
Today, former Panthers Eddie Conway, Mumia AbuJamal, H. Rap Brown, Ed Poindexter and David Rice are serving life sentences.
Those pussies will have plenty of swinging dicks inside the federal prison if which to get familiar with. LOL!
Mainecoons
12-20-2013, 03:08 PM
What trough do you follow, Cigar?
How does one follow a trough?
Have you considered running your posts through a spell checker?
:rofl:
Dr. Who
12-21-2013, 12:28 AM
And thus marked the first time I saw "Ibid" used for a citation on a political forum (even if it's used incorrectly here). Thanks for making my getaway from academics more like my academics.
If the original article was noted, it would be acceptable, but it may have been copied with the original reference omitted.
If the original article was noted, it would be acceptable, but it may have been copied with the original reference omitted.
Of course. But then I assume this was copied/pasted totally out of context, although it's missing a link so for all I know it could be copied out of a text.
Dr. Who
12-21-2013, 02:02 AM
Of course. But then I assume this was copied/pasted totally out of context, although it's missing a link so for all I know it could be copied out of a text.
True enough, without context it could change the entire meaning of the article.
Dr. Who
12-21-2013, 02:06 AM
I don't recall that the KLAN is racist. Got any proof of such?
If you don't believe that the KLAN is a racist organization, given the lynchings and the cross burnings, the word racist has no meaning for you.
Dr. Who
12-21-2013, 02:13 AM
He appears to be to be a white supremacist. What's the difference between his obvious racial preference versus Cigar's?
Cigar is a guy who's tired of people putting down black people at every turn. I don't think he's a racist at all, nor do I think that many people on this forum are truly prejudiced against black people. Somehow being left or right has created a racist divide that has more foundation in political division, than in actual racist beliefs. Furthermore people have adopted "go to" roles on the forum out of habit, including Cigar. It's too bad, because it does get in the way of discussion.
Dr. Who
12-21-2013, 02:25 AM
Those people/groups are merely an offshoot or splinter factions if you will of a growing anti American progressive agenda to destroy our nation, our society, our culture and our Constitution in one great swoop.
There is only once race on the planet, and that's the human race. Divisions, culture, ethnicity are all artificial divisions. It's our attitude to each other that ultimately creates issues. Politics creates divisions and so do socio/economic conditions and the xenophobia that develops when people compete for employment. Racism is alive and well in America. How it has been dealt with up to now is a problem.
Dr. Who
12-21-2013, 02:30 AM
Don't bother dignifying the statement, just revel in it's ignorance' :rollseyes:
Like Oprah said: Generations 'marinated' in racism will need to die out for discrimination to end across the world
Unfortunately when guess log-on to this Forum, this is the type of racist representation and reputation this forum turns a blind eye to and in essence ... endorses.
Not endorses. Free speech is allowed, no matter how repugnant, so long as it is not directed toward a member.
zelmo1234
12-21-2013, 02:33 AM
I don't recall that the KLAN is racist. Got any proof of such?
Really? We can't look at the documentation and it's colored past and see that it is a racist organization?
And a largely Democrat filled organization! Dude you are in the wrong party to get support for stuff like that!
Dr. Who
12-21-2013, 02:35 AM
Prove the current KKK is racist and I'll promise to shut the fuck up just for your sake. And if by miracle you do find one instance where a current member of the KLAN is racist, what or how would his or her racist disposition affect you or affect the nation as a whole?
If segregation is your mantra, you are racist. You wouldn't want to segregate unless you were intolerant of people of color or of other culture and ethnicity. You are a xenophobe. Is that a nicer word for it?
Dr. Who
12-21-2013, 02:39 AM
Al right, this confirms it, cigar is the king and the leading Black Panther on this forum. Good job.
I've never seen Cigar post one single pro Panther thread.
zelmo1234
12-21-2013, 02:53 AM
Reagan is dead and gone ... forever ... just like all The GOP Plans. R.I.P
Change Happened ... deal with it, or not ... no one cares if you do or not.
The World Moved on, have fun in your dream world, because none of it is ever coming back
Really? The people seem to dis agree?
http://www.travel-impact-newswire.com/2013/12/gallup-poll-record-high-in-u-s-say-big-government-greatest-threat-snowden-revelations-seen-as-factor/#axzz2o5rVVwcn
While in times of prosperity the people want to help the less fortunate, they tend to wise up to the policies of the socialist and there attempts to enslave a people to their government when the economy turns south!
People have turned against the policies of this administration!
They do not support run away government spending
http://www.travel-impact-newswire.com/2013/12/gallup-poll-record-high-in-u-s-say-big-government-greatest-threat-snowden-revelations-seen-as-factor/#axzz2o5rVVwcn
Nearly 2/3 of the people are ready to pay the price and force government to live within it's means.
They have seen that big government and the expansion under this administration has robbed the middle class of 40% of it's wealth and 5% of it's income and even more when you consider inflation!
YES! socialism has failed again and it is likely to be our of favor for the next 30 years, until people forget what the lie of compassion for the poor did to them last time.
This is why liberals are clinging to Obamacare so drastically! If they can just keep control over who will get healthcare and who won't they can maintain some power over the people, as they unleash the power of economic freedom on the economy!
Just look to Cigar, he supports the polices that keep his people poor, and does so while telling them that he is compassionate and thinking of their best interest? he does not give a crap about anything but being superior to people, like most liberals he needs to feel he has more than others!
this is why I will never understand liberalism
zelmo1234
12-21-2013, 03:01 AM
You should ask our own home grown Klansman if they ever see anyone on this e forum ever worshiping or praising Black Panthers .... :rollseyes:
Cig, you are a racist too? this is not one that you have a lot of credibility on!
zelmo1234
12-21-2013, 03:05 AM
Prove the current KKK is racist and I'll promise to shut the fuck up just for your sake. And if by miracle you do find one instance where a current member of the KLAN is racist, what or how would his or her racist disposition affect you or affect the nation as a whole?
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/876268/reporter's_weekend_with_the_%22kinder_gentler_kkk% 22%3A_still_hitler-quoting,_racial_slur-using_bigots
Same shit different day!
zelmo1234
12-21-2013, 03:06 AM
No one gives a shit about the kkk anymore, they are reduced to hiding on the Internet.
There over 1200 more days that Obama will be living in the White House, that's more than sticking it to the kkk and thats enough for me.
You are really no better than him? Racism is racism? it should not get a pass in either direction!
zelmo1234
12-21-2013, 03:10 AM
"Everyones hero" hahahahah
It wasn't until after RR was dead, that Rethuglicans canonized him, and annoited him for sainthood.
Don't get me started, or I will blast Raygun the rest of this thread!
That's my specialty is destroying Rethuglican mythology!
I can see how you would be able to do that with a great deal of credibility as the current administrations is having so much success with policies that are the exact opposite of what Reagan did.
But yes there is a myth attached to Reagan as he was the last conservative President, even though he had to deal with a very powerful speaker in Tip ONeil, and a Democratic Congress, he set the country on a path to prosperity that last longer then any other period of peacetime economic growth!
On the left you have JFK, who if not for his assignation would not be the hero he is today either?
zelmo1234
12-21-2013, 03:14 AM
Black Panther? :rollseyes:
Bull Shit, Black Panthers are Pussy Cats compared to me. :laugh:
I follow-trough :laugh:
YEAH! we are all living in fear? NO you are a closet racist just like lib, you really should get a room together!
zelmo1234
12-21-2013, 03:17 AM
Cigar is a guy who's tired of people putting down black people at every turn. I don't think he's a racist at all, nor do I think that many people on this forum are truly prejudiced against black people. Somehow being left or right has created a racist divide that has more foundation in political division, than in actual racist beliefs. Furthermore people have adopted "go to" roles on the forum out of habit, including Cigar. It's too bad, because it does get in the way of discussion.
I don't think that publicly Cigar is racist? But he sure does spout a lot of crap on here
Libhater
12-21-2013, 07:49 AM
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/876268/reporter's_weekend_with_the_"kinder_gentler_kkk"%3A_still_hitler-quoting,_racial_slur-using_bigots (http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/876268/reporter's_weekend_with_the_)
Same shit different day!
I still don't see how you or anyone can relate WHITE power or WHITE pride to that of being supremacist. The definition of a racist most certainly includes the notion that one person of a particular race feels 'superior' to that of another race. While these Klan members do in fact call others nasty names...so do those other people from other races call the Klan nasty names. That makes it a wash in my book. I still didn't glean a sense of superiority coming out of current Klan members. What I see is a need for Klan members to fight for the White race and to be left to segregate far away from peoples' they deem to be a bad influence on them and their families. Wouldn't you also segregate yourself from a certain race of people if you deemed them to be dangerous or of having a bad influence over you and your loved ones?
Mainecoons
12-21-2013, 09:29 AM
White pride = racist
Black pride = noble.
From the liberal playbook.
Libhater
12-21-2013, 10:50 AM
White pride = racist
Black pride = noble.
From the liberal playbook.
Truer words were never spoken.
Mainecoons
12-21-2013, 10:53 AM
Yes, but you are confusing the Klan with a constructive way to boost and exhibit racial pride.
countryboy
12-21-2013, 11:01 AM
White pride = racist
Black pride = noble.
From the liberal playbook.
Yeah, but from the non-mentally deranged playbook, both are racist.
Libhater
12-21-2013, 11:06 AM
If segregation is your mantra, you are racist. You wouldn't want to segregate unless you were intolerant of people of color or of other culture and ethnicity. You are a xenophobe. Is that a nicer word for it?
American Indians tend to segregate onto their reservations. Would you call all Indians racist? I segregate because I know a bad apple when I see one, and because I have this innate aptitude to avoid mixing with or associating with people that are either out to do me harm or out to disrupt, revise or destroy any and all beliefs and or traditions I may have of our American heritage or of the way I live amongst my family and friends that I trust.
Libhater
12-21-2013, 11:11 AM
Yes, but you are confusing the Klan with a constructive way to boost and exhibit racial pride.
I'm not confusing anything. Until you or someone else can point to someone or some other group of people who do more to stick up for the WHITE man then the Klan then I'll just have to assume that there isn't any other. And if you do find someone willing to do the heavy work in supporting the WHITE man, please tell us of how they are doing it constructively.
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