This is why Health Care Matters

[Cigar]

On January 1st, 2014, millions of Americans will have the security that comes with health care coverage -- many for the first time. OFA asked people across the country to tell their stories about what health reform means to them.

Watch this powerful reminder of why so many fought for the Affordable Care Act.

http://www.barackobama.com/health-care-stories/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=obama&utm_content=2&utm_campaign=em13_x_ACA_20140101_x_x_jc_v1s3&source=em13_x_ACA_20140101_x_x_jc_v1s3#?story=vide (http://www.barackobama.com/health-care-stories/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=obama&utm_content=2&utm_campaign=em13_x_ACA_20140101_x_x_jc_v1s3&source=em13_x_ACA_20140101_x_x_jc_v1s3#?story=vide o)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d5l_jEXrPN0

[Chris]

This is why Health Care Matters

I don't know anyone who thinks it doesn't matter.

The question is how best go about, not insuring as the ACA does, but ensuring people have access if they so choose to.

[Mainecoons]

Health care matters so Obama has it in tatters.

:rofl:

[Chris]

Health care matters so Obama has it in tatters.

:rofl:



That was poetic. It's all poetic justice.

[texan]

I don't know anyone that doesn't think its important either.

[GrassrootsConservative]

If it matters so much why is our government taking it away from us?

[lynn]

Insurance companies should have been regulated a long time ago so they could not deny people with pre-existing conditions. We didn't need the ACA to fix that.

[Professor Peabody]

On January 1st, 2014, millions of Americans will have the security that comes with health care coverage -- many for the first time. OFA asked people across the country to tell their stories about what health reform means to them.

Watch this powerful reminder of why so many fought for the Affordable Care Act.

http://www.barackobama.com/health-care-stories/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=obama&utm_content=2&utm_campaign=em13_x_ACA_20140101_x_x_jc_v1s3&source=em13_x_ACA_20140101_x_x_jc_v1s3#?story=vide (http://www.barackobama.com/health-care-stories/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=obama&utm_content=2&utm_campaign=em13_x_ACA_20140101_x_x_jc_v1s3&source=em13_x_ACA_20140101_x_x_jc_v1s3#?story=vide o)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d5l_jEXrPN0

Better bring your Visa Card.....


Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

By Stephanie Armour 2013-10-14T04:00:02Z

When Barbara Retkowski went to a Cape Coral, Florida, health clinic in August to treat a blood condition, she figured the center would bill her insurance company. Instead, it demanded payment upfront.

Earlier in the year, another clinic insisted she pay her entire remaining insurance deductible for the year -- more than $1,000 -- before the doctor would even see her.

The practice of upfront payment for non-emergency care has been spreading in the U.S. as deductibles rise. Now, the advent of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is likely to accelerate that trend.

Many of the plans offered through the law’s insurance exchanges have low initial premiums to attract customers, while carrying significant deductibles and other out-of-pocket cost sharing. The second-lowest tier of Obamacare plans in California, for example, carries a $2,000 annual deductible.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-14/patients-pay-before-seeing-doctor-as-deductibles-spread.html

[patrickt]

Health care is far too important to leave up to the government. Sadly, the liberals have no interest in health care. They are interested in power and the destruction of the country.

[zelmo1234]

It is in the place where time will tell. When the Waivers come to an end, is when time will tell. Think of the union member that will receive a 20% + tax because there insurance is too good. It is estimated that 70 million people will loose their insurance with the business and corporate waiver expires.

There are tons of Doc and hospitals that are not planning on excepting this insurance, they may have coverage but not be able to get care in some places.

We have to let it play out and see, the ACA is a defining moment in the history of the country it will either accelerate the move toward socialism, or stop it in it's tracks, only time will tell

[Cigar]

Health care matters so Obama has it in tatters.

:rofl:

Looks like you're still a little pissed that you couldn't defeat The Black Man ... what are you about ... 0 - for 45 or so?

[zelmo1234]

Looks like you're still a little pissed that you couldn't defeat The Black Man ... what are you about ... 0 - for 45 or so?

This shows the mentality of those that can not see the harm in the ACA

The only thing this stupid shit had in his bag was the race card! When not one other person brought up race.

So because there are people hurting because of the ACA, they will not be able to keep their insurance and not likely they will be able to see their doctor or go to here hospital if they were seeing good docs and going to quality hospitals anyway. So because people appose that, according to Cig they are racist!

this is the stupid shit that has to stop!

[patrickt]

Cigar has no interest in the welfare of the people. He's only concerned about past victories and his racism.

[Cigar]

Cigar has no interest in the welfare of the people. He's only concerned about past victories and his racism.

You're entitled to your opinion :wink:

[patrickt]

You're entitled to your opinion :wink:

I know that, Cigar, and I'll continue to be entitled to my opinion until the socialist takeover is complete.

[Mini Me]

Health care is far too important to leave up to the government. Sadly, the liberals have no interest in health care. They are interested in power and the destruction of the country.

Well, we left it up to the private sector for many decades, and they gouged the hell out of us, and left millions out of HC, and bankrupted millions of folks! What we have is a broken system. That is destruction of the country!

Now we have the ACA, and it is riddled with holes! Are we to trust the insurers or the Rethugs to fix the problem now?

I can't see that happening, as they make too much money as it is.

[zelmo1234]

Well, we left it up to the private sector for many decades, and they gouged the hell out of us, and left millions out of HC, and bankrupted millions of folks! What we have is a broken system. That is destruction of the country!

Now we have the ACA, and it is riddled with holes! Are we to trust the insurers or the Rethugs to fix the problem now?

I can't see that happening, as they make too much money as it is.

So what do you think the results of the ACA are going to be?

It appears that we will still have 30 million people that are un insured, but these will be people with homes and assets like 401K's that the hospitals can collect on!

Do you think that will be better?

[Professor Peabody]

Well, we left it up to the private sector for many decades, and they gouged the hell out of us, and left millions out of HC, and bankrupted millions of folks! What we have is a broken system. That is destruction of the country!

Now we have the ACA, and it is riddled with holes! Are we to trust the insurers or the Rethugs to fix the problem now?

I can't see that happening, as they make too much money as it is.

So the single payer system in England is better?

Just a few Socialized Medicine horror stories from late 2012 and 2013 for ya.

Dementia victims 'have twice the risk of dying in hospital while a third are not properly diagnosed by staff' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2291903/Dementia-victims-twice-risk-dying-hospital-properly-diagnosed-staff.html)

University professor, 37, dies from lung cancer after string of doctors dismissed symptoms as 'anxiety and depression' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2290128/University-professor-37-dies-lung-cancer-doctors-dismissed-symptoms-anxiety-depression.html)

Premature twins died after being given 10 times too much morphine, nursing tribunal hears (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2291635/Premature-twins-died-given-10-times-morphine-nursing-tribunal-hears.html)

Failings in NHS cost 30,000 lives every year (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/health/news/article3705625.ece)

Inspections highlight 'barbaric' home care failings (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/elderhealth/9866111/Inspections-highlight-barbaric-home-care-failings.html)

NHS watchdog to tackle malnutrition in hospitals (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/mar/03/nhs-watchdog-malnutrition-hospitals)

Elderly warned of growing isolation as face-to-face care cut (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/elderhealth/9868594/Elderly-warned-of-growing-isolation-as-face-to-face-care-cut.html)

Family of RAF's finest who shot V1 rockets out the sky forced to sell medals to pay for care home (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/elderhealth/9894728/Family-of-RAFs-finest-who-shot-V1-rockets-out-the-sky-forced-to-sell-medals-to-pay-for-care-home.html)

Closing the Independent Living Fund shows how low the government will go (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/27/closing-independent-living-fund-disabled-care)

Elderly patients diagnosed with 'acopia' - a disease that does not exist (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9906903/Elderly-patients-diagnosed-with-acopia-a-disease-that-does-not-exist.html)

Mid-Staffs scandal: Sir David Nicholson could face corporate manslaughter and misconduct charges (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9913790/Mid-Staffs-scandal-Sir-David-Nicholson-could-face-corporate-manslaughter-and-misconduct-charges.html)

Growing fears of Bolton hospital death rate 'cover up' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/put-patients-first/9913889/Growing-fears-of-Bolton-hospital-death-rate-cover-up.html)

Patients 'are still in danger from nurses who can't speak English' say MPs, as they call for urgent action (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2288802/Patients-danger-nurses-speak-English-say-MPs-watchdog-calls-urgent-action.html)

Older diabetics are suffering 'needless' amputations and blindness because they get the worst care (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2288583/Older-diabetics-suffering-needless-amputations-blindness-worst-care.html)

Pensioner placed on Liverpool Care Pathway WITHOUT family's permission dies after spending eight days without food or water (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2289033/Pensioner-placed-Liverpool-Care-Pathway-WITHOUT-familys-permission-dies-spending-days-food-water.html)

‘Basic errors in care cause kidney deaths’ (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/health/news/article3712812.ece)

Choosing a GP means gambling with your life – this must stop
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/put-patients-first/9915750/Choosing-a-GP-means-gambling-with-your-life-this-must-stop.html
)

Seventeen NHS hospitals have dangerously low numbers of nurses (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/heal-our-hospitals/9797839/Seventeen-NHS-hospitals-have-dangerously-low-numbers-of-nurses.html
)

Hospital patients won’t complain for fear of retribution (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/health/news/article3715044.ece
)

New avoidable-deaths scandal to put more pressure on NHS chief (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/health/news/article3716023.ece)

Nurse linked to the death of premature twins killed by '10 times too much morphine' is allowed to keep working (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2294117/Nurse-linked-death-premature-twins-killed-huge-dose-morphine-allowed-working.html)

NHS neglect: elderly patients ‘denied help with food’ (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/health/news/article3716852.ece)

Hip fracture patients suffering 'indefensible postcode lottery' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9938484/Hip-fracture-patients-suffering-indefensible-postcode-lottery.html)

Snap inspections expose scandal of 'institutionalised abuse' in care homes and hospitals (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/elderhealth/9938660/Snap-inspections-expose-scandal-of-institutionalised-abuse-in-care-homes-and-hospitals.html)

Children's lives are being put at risk by a 'chronic shortage' of hospital doctors on weekends and evenings (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2307535/Childrens-lives-risk-chronic-shortage-hospital-doctors-weekends.html)

Hospital that left patients lying in soiled sheets and shivering with cold is given a stark warning to improve by health watchdog (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2340169/Hospital-left-patients-lying-soiled-sheets-shivering-cold-given-stark-warning-improve-health-watchdog.html)

Mother-of-three dies of meningitis just five days after being admitted to hospital with EARACHE (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2343112/Mother-dies-meningitis-just-days-admitted-hospital-EARACHE.html)

A&E patients being forced to wait in ambulances for up to eight hours because of lack of beds (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2352121/A-E-patients-forced-wait-ambulances-hours-lack-beds.html)

An unprecedented crisis is approaching, say the health service’s most senior figures (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/special-report-this-cant-go-on--nhs-chiefs-urge-new-debate-on-health-service-reforms-8701302.html)

Number of patients being tied up and locked in rooms by care staff DOUBLES as MPs issue warning about hospital abuse (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2398292/Number-patients-tied-locked-rooms-care-staff-DOUBLES-MPs-issue-warning-hospital-abuse.html)

Thousands dying of thirst on NHS: Watchdog forced to issue guidelines on giving patients water (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2403501/Thousands-dying-thirst-NHS-Watchdog-forced-issue-guidelines-giving-patients-water.html)

Woman who was sterilised is horrified to discover metal surgical clip had travelled from her groin to her CHEST (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2402678/Woman-sterilised-horrified-discover-metal-surgical-clip-travelled-groin-CHEST.html)

'My daughter was sent home from A&E to die of croup': Grieving mother to sue hospital after one-year-old's death (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2402739/My-daughter-sent-home-A-E-die-croup-Grieving-mother-sues-hospital.html)

[Professor Peabody]

continued...........

The little girl who could have been saved from meningitis - by jab NHS refuses to fund (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2401390/Eleanor-Coneybeare-saved-meningitis--jab-NHS-refuses-fund.html)

Concerns over nursery worker who raped child 'were not investigated' (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/aug/27/ofsted-council-rape-toddler-nursery)

GPs predict longer waiting times - survey (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23724215)

NHS waiting lists are longest in five years (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10246145/NHS-waiting-lists-are-longest-in-five-years.html)

Pensioner died in agony after developing a horrific bedsore in hospital which left her spine exposed (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2426993/Pensioner-died-agony-developing-horrific-bedsore-hospital-left-spine-exposed.html)

Grandmother, 55, died from cervical cancer after her GP dismissed her symptoms as the MENOPAUSE (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2423611/Grandmother-55-died-cervical-cancer-GP-dismissed-symptoms-MENOPAUSE.html)

Children left disabled by meningitis after GPs failed to diagnose them are paid £28m in compensation (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2424488/Children-left-disabled-meningitis-GPs-failed-diagnose-paid-28m-compensation.html)

Girl, two, 'died after doctors failed to talk to each other about MRI scan that showed she had water on the brain' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2449523/Alice-Mason-died-doctors-failed-discuss-MRI-scan.html)

Surge in elderly abuse and neglect claims (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/elderhealth/10356294/Surge-in-elderly-abuse-and-neglect-claims.html)

'I would worry if my family was taken to hospital at weekends': NHS boss admits he is concerned about staffing levels (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2468613/NHS-boss-Keith-Willett-admits-concerned-staffing-levels-A-E.html)

How GPs are paid £50 bonus to put elderly on 'death lists' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2468112/Revealed-How-GPs-paid-50-bonus-elderly-death-lists.html)

Christian missionary, 49, died of heart failure and brain damage after waiting more than an HOUR for ambulance to arrive (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2464711/Christian-missionary-died-waiting-HOUR-ambulance.html)

'You condemned my sweetheart to death' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2507559/Husband-says-Colchester-Hospital-condemned-sweetheart-death.html)

Doctors, nurses and managers to face five years in jail if they neglect patients (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/16/doctors-face-jail-if-patients-mistreated)

Dehydration and malnutrition led to 2,162 deaths in care since 2003 (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/02/dehydration-malnutrition-care-homes-hospitals)

Jeremy Hunt says 32 hospitals are under investigation over links to claims of sexual abuse by presenter (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/29/hospitals-investigated-jimmy-savile-allegations)

Colchester hospital faces criminal investigation over waiting list figures (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/26/colchester-general-hospital-criminal-investigation)

Brain haemorrhage patients face unnecessary delays, study finds (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/22/brain-haemorrhage-patients-unnecessary-delays-study)

Four hospitals understaffed, says NHS watchdog (http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/21/nhs-cqc-understaffing-four-hospitals)

Royal College of Nursing claims that as many as one in six nursing posts at some NHS hospitals are lying vacant

I guess liberals think this is better. Stock up on the life insurance so when the health care system kills your loved one, you can have a couple of hundred grand to console yourself.