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Cigar
01-14-2014, 11:00 AM
http://i.imgur.com/qGdWyNM.png

keymanjim
01-14-2014, 11:04 AM
I wonder what video obama would try to blame it on?

Codename Section
01-14-2014, 11:05 AM
This is what I said the other day. Regulations do absolute shit. An M4 in the guys face would be more effective.

Polecat
01-14-2014, 11:11 AM
White collar crime is never prosecuted like it should be.

MrJimmyDale
01-14-2014, 11:17 AM
Only 14 people admitted to the hospital so far? I thought this was going to be a much bigger deal. Or is this something that we will be reading about in 25 years when people start getting cancer.(I was going to say 5 years and birth defects but I remembered that we were talking about WV and there would be no way to distinguish between the effects of water contamination and all of the inbreeding that naturally occurs.)

hanger4
01-14-2014, 11:24 AM
Let's see here, Intentional (al-quida), Accidental (chem spill). That's an excellent comparison Cigar, not !! Geebus !!

Cigar
01-14-2014, 11:28 AM
I wonder what video obama would try to blame it on?

Any will do ... to keep The Right Wing twisting in the wind ... Benghazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (http://soundcloud.com/rockymountainmike/right-wing-troll-notification)

Cigar
01-14-2014, 11:48 AM
Let's see here, Intentional (al-quida), Accidental (chem spill). That's an excellent comparison Cigar, not !! Geebus !!


Water-Poisoning Freedom Industries Had "Freedom" from EPA Regulations
Freedom Industries, the company that freely and negligently poisoned the water supply in nine West Virginia counties with a chemical used in the coal industry, seems to be enjoying a lot of freedom from EPA regulations. According to the New York Times, the company is exempt from Environmental Protection Agency rules because it stores chemicals, rather than produces them.

The tank, which leaked over 7,500 gallons of 4-Methylcyclohexane Methanol (2,500 more than previously estimated) into West Virginia’s Elk River, had reportedly been leaking for an extended period of time. MCHM is not lethal unless ingested in large quantities, but can cause non-stop vomiting, burning throat, blisters, and other “poor people problems.” CEO Dennis P. Farrel’s fur-wearing girlfriend told Facebook that she was able to brush her teeth and shower therefore, despite Governor Earl Ray Tomblin declaring a state of emergency and numerous experts urging customers not to drink the water or use it for anything besides “flushing,” she feels that “no one and no thing” has been harmed due to the leakage.

Farrell himself has avoided facing the public for his company’s reprehensible and irresponsible lack of safety measures, but president Gary Southern has made it very clear that…he doesn’t care either.



http://aattp.org/surprise-water-poisoning-freedom-industries-had-freedom-from-epa-regulations/



How Poetic ... :wink:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd8y5ssCYAA-8cu.jpg

keymanjim
01-14-2014, 11:53 AM
Any will do ... to keep The Right Wing twisting in the wind ... Benghazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (http://soundcloud.com/rockymountainmike/right-wing-troll-notification)
Well then. I'm sure he would dedicate this one to you:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENnAa7rqtBM

Cigar
01-14-2014, 11:54 AM
Boehner On W.Va. Chemical Spill: 'We Have Enough Regulations' Boehner On W.Va. Chemical Spill: 'We Have Enough Regulations'

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) doesn't believe the GOP should reconsider its deregulation agenda after a massive, coal-linked chemical spill left hundreds of thousands of West Virginians without tap water at a site state regulators last fully inspected in 1991.

"We have enough regulations on the books. What the administration ought to be doing is their jobs," Boehner said at a weekly press conference on Capitol Hill.

While Boehner said that somebody ought to be held accountable for the failure in oversight, the Speaker explained his party was focused on eliminating "cumbersome, over-the-top" regulations that were "costing the American people jobs."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/boehner-on-w-va-chemical-spill-we-have-enough-regulations


http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e9/7e/9c/e97e9cdb1cea50d8627abb2c26f59b26.jpg

Drink Up Bitches ... you're Politicians don't give a shit!

http://www.dailylumen.com/wp-content/uploads/dirty-water.jpg

MrJimmyDale
01-14-2014, 11:54 AM
can cause non-stop vomiting, burning throat, blisters, and other “poor people problems.” Silly poor people.....

Codename Section
01-14-2014, 11:55 AM
Boehner On W.Va. Chemical Spill: 'We Have Enough Regulations'

Boehner On W.Va. Chemical Spill: 'We Have Enough Regulations'

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) doesn't believe the GOP should reconsider its deregulation agenda after a massive, coal-linked chemical spill left hundreds of thousands of West Virginians without tap water at a site state regulators last fully inspected in 1991.

"We have enough regulations on the books. What the administration ought to be doing is their jobs," Boehner said at a weekly press conference on Capitol Hill.

While Boehner said that somebody ought to be held accountable for the failure in oversight, the Speaker explained his party was focused on eliminating "cumbersome, over-the-top" regulations that were "costing the American people jobs."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/boehner-on-w-va-chemical-spill-we-have-enough-regulations


http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e9/7e/9c/e97e9cdb1cea50d8627abb2c26f59b26.jpg

Drink Up Bitches ... you're Politicians don't give a shit!




How did the regulations stop this again? Oh. Right. They didn't.

jillian
01-14-2014, 11:57 AM
This is what I said the other day. Regulations do absolute shit. An M4 in the guys face would be more effective.

it gives you enforcment and punitive measures.

fund regulatory agencies better

Cigar
01-14-2014, 11:58 AM
How did the regulations stop this again? Oh. Right. They didn't.

Because they failed in West Virginia ... we should get rid of all regulations ... correct?

Codename Section
01-14-2014, 11:59 AM
it gives you enforcment and punitive measures.

fund regulatory agencies better

Haha, why? So they can sue people and give people who are dying a check for a couple grand? I was reading it took 40 years for one of these cases to result in a settlement.

If pollution of this extent is a crime then there is no regulation that should cover it. It should be a criminal charge with jail time.

keymanjim
01-14-2014, 11:59 AM
it gives you enforcment and punitive measures.

fund regulatory agencies better
TRANSLATION: Throw more money at the problem.

Codename Section
01-14-2014, 12:00 PM
Because they failed in West Virginia ... we should get rid of all regulations ... correct?

I don't make illogical binary arguments like that, so, no, that would be incorrect. I think we should press criminal charges not sue in civil court.

MrJimmyDale
01-14-2014, 12:01 PM
it gives you enforcment and punitive measures. fund regulatory agencies better Throwing more $ to a broken and corrupt agency is not the solution.....but you are 100% correct on enforcement and punitive measures...........

hanger4
01-14-2014, 12:09 PM
Water-Poisoning Freedom Industries Had "Freedom" from EPA RegulationsFreedom Industries, the company that freely and negligently poisoned the water supply in nine West Virginia counties with a chemical used in the coal industry, seems to be enjoying a lot of freedom from EPA regulations. According to the New York Times, the company is exempt from Environmental Protection Agency rules because it stores chemicals, rather than produces them. The tank, which leaked over 7,500 gallons of 4-Methylcyclohexane Methanol (2,500 more than previously estimated) into West Virginia¡¯s Elk River, had reportedly been leaking for an extended period of time. MCHM is not lethal unless ingested in large quantities, but can cause non-stop vomiting, burning throat, blisters, and other ¡°poor people problems.¡± CEO Dennis P. Farrel¡¯s fur-wearing girlfriend told Facebook that she was able to brush her teeth and shower therefore, despite Governor Earl Ray Tomblin declaring a state of emergency and numerous experts urging customers not to drink the water or use it for anything besides ¡°flushing,¡± she feels that ¡°no one and no thing¡± has been harmed due to the leakage. Farrell himself has avoided facing the public for his company¡¯s reprehensible and irresponsible lack of safety measures, but president Gary Southern has made it very clear that¡*he doesn¡¯t care either. http://aattp.org/surprise-water-poisoning-freedom-industries-had-freedom-from-epa-regulations/How Poetic ... :wink: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd8y5ssCYAA-8cu.jpgFrom your link; 'Freedom Industries' freely and negligently poisoned the water'. John Prager (the author) says FI did this on purpose ?? You believe that sh-t Cigar ?? Why do you think FI would intentionally poison the water ?? Why would FI through money away like that ?? Surely you're not as dumb as Mr. Prager.

Cigar
01-14-2014, 12:12 PM
Deregulation of industry works! Just Ask a West Virginian!


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/images/2008/11/06/mountaintop_2.jpg

http://whyfiles.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/mountaintop_removal2.jpg


And this:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/US/04/13/west.virginia.mine/t1larg.jpg

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/03/16/us/16sago-600.jpg


Now brings you this:

http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/21/cf/70/00/chemical-spill-poison-water.si.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1557199/thumbs/n-WEST-VIRGINIA-large570.jpg

The Xl
01-14-2014, 12:13 PM
White collar crime is never prosecuted like it should be.

When you're poising people, it's already gone far past white collar crime.

But yeah, regulations do dick.

Cigar
01-14-2014, 12:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qhB7WMTIydM

They were Warned ... that's why they are Running away from Questions ...

But hey ... if People in W Virginia don't care ... what should I?

hanger4
01-14-2014, 12:39 PM
Where's the EPA in all this ?? Why was their last inspection in 1991 ??

Codename Section
01-14-2014, 12:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qhB7WMTIydM

They were Warned ... that's why they are Running away from Questions ...

But hey ... if People in W Virginia don't care ... what should I?


And then there's that, too. I watched a show and the coal miners there were saying that they hated regulators because it kept them out of work.

I really don't know what to do as far as that goes when the constituents don't want regulations. I'm just saying it shouldn't be "regulated", ie "civil". It should be statutory and criminalized instead.

Civil suits are for shit. They take years for justice. Criminal charges are the way to go.

pragmatic
01-14-2014, 12:54 PM
Because they failed in West Virginia ... we should get rid of all regulations ... correct?


Yeah. But nobody ever suggested getting rid of all regulations, eh??

You are such a drama queen.....

Cigar
01-14-2014, 12:56 PM
And then there's that, too. I watched a show and the coal miners there were saying that they hated regulators because it kept them out of work.

I really don't know what to do as far as that goes when the constituents don't want regulations. I'm just saying it shouldn't be "regulated", ie "civil". It should be statutory and criminalized instead.

Civil suits are for shit. They take years for justice. Criminal charges are the way to go.



I don't live near anything like that, so like I said ... I'll care as much for them as they do for themselves.

My Water is Regulated :wink: so I'm good with my Big Government :laugh:

Captain Obvious
01-14-2014, 12:56 PM
Democrats are equally if not moreso responsible for the lack of regulation and ineffectiveness of prosecution in cases like this than Republicans.

It's what the bucket carrying left will never get.

Cigar
01-14-2014, 12:57 PM
Yeah. But nobody ever suggested getting rid of all regulations, eh??

You are such a drama queen.....

If it doesn't bother you that 300k can't drink ... then why should I care?

pragmatic
01-14-2014, 01:04 PM
If it doesn't bother you that 300k can't drink ... then why should I care?

The circumstances of the spill should be investigated. If laws/regulations were broken then responsible parties should be held responsible. Really not complex.

And the actual impact/danger of the spill has not yet even been determined.


But please continue with your melodramatic case of the vapors.....