Virginia GOP candidate: Spousal rape isn’t a crime if she is ‘wearing a nightie’

[Cigar]

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After losing all major statewide races to Democrats for the first time in 24 years, Republicans in Virginia are pushing to replace a moderate GOP congressman with a candidate so conservative that he doesn’t even believe that spousal rape should be a crime.

On Wednesday, Mother Jones pointed out that state Sen. Richard H. “Dick” Black, who is running to take over retiring Rep. Frank Wolf’s seat, had fought against making spousal rape a crime because the woman was “sleeping in the same bed, she’s in a nightie.”

Democrat Shawn Mitchell had uncovered the 2002 video of Black talking about spousal rape for an attack ad during the 2011 campaign for Virginia state Senate.

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In 2001, Black asserted that emergency contraception was “baby pesticide” and he recently compared the Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion to the Holocaust.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/15/virginia-gop-candidate-spousal-rape-isnt-a-crime-if-she-is-wearing-a-nightie/


Oh God, I really can't add anything to that ... but I'm sure a shit excited about Republican politics. :smiley_ROFLMAO:

What you say Forum Ladies :laugh:

[Cigar]

I don't blame yea ... I'd be embarrassed if he represented my party also.

yikes ... what a weirdo

[jillian]

jeeze....

[jillian]

you'd think they'd understand they lost because of governor ultrasound.....

i hope they continue to alienate women at every possible turn.

[Captain Obvious]

Normally I jump in and laugh along with yinz at fossil thinkers but are you sure this isn't a valid comment maybe taken out of context?

If I have sex with my wife and the next day she wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and files charges for rape. Goes to the ER, gets the rape kit thing done, all my DNA is in there - what's my defense?

[Kalkin]

I call BS. Married people don't want to have sex with each other.

[Codename Section]

Yeh, I was thinking of this one. There's a certain amount of leniency with your monogamous sex partner. Like if she's saying "No" then no means no, but if you're like ya know in bed and shit and she's in a hot Victoria's Secret wassup with not touching?

Isn't that why people get married, so they can have sex routinely?

[jillian]

Spousal rape is one of the hallmarks of an abusive relationship. Rape is tape and no means no.

[Kalkin]

Spousal rape is one of the hallmarks of an abusive relationship. Rape is tape and no means no.
Rape must come in handy when wrapping gifts, then.

[Codename Section]

Spousal rape is one of the hallmarks of an abusive relationship. Rape is tape and no means no.

Right. Unless there's a safeword.

[nathanbforrest45]

Right. Unless there's a safeword.

Like "Get the fuck off me you pervert"

[BB-35]

What exactly was the context of his statements?

[Mainecoons]

I'm almost 70 and have been married for 35 years.

What's "sex?"

:rofl:

[jillian]

Rape must come in handy when wrapping gifts, then.

Ipad. Auto correct. Thanks :rolleyes:

[keymanjim]

I'm almost 70 and have been married for 35 years.

What's "sex?"

:rofl:
It's that thing us single guys do to girls half our age.

[Alyosha]

The hard truth is spousal rape never gets a conviction. It's a waste of the courts time. I'm not sure the comfort level I have with this, but I've never seen anyone receive anything in 6 years for allegations of spousal rape.

[Kalkin]

Ipad. Auto correct. Thanks :rolleyes:
My iPad pulls that shit all the time. Sometimes it's comedy gold.

[jillian]

My iPad pulls that shit all the time. Sometimes it's comedy gold.

I hear ya.

[Peter1469]

This sort of thing is typically taken out of context and used to convince people to vote D, so the government can tax the living shit out of you.

[monty1]

Keep this ugly hatefilled shit up America and decent minded countries will cease to trade with you! You fucking southern baggers just know no bounds do you!

[Peter1469]

I sense a theme here. Montly hates the south, or at least the people living there.

Other nations base their trade decisions on the USD, not some lame opinion. :shocked:


Keep this ugly hatefilled shit up America and decent minded countries will cease to trade with you! You fucking southern baggers just know no bounds do you!

[BB-35]

It's that thing us single guys do to girls half our age.

Y'all better be over 40...

[Codename Section]

This sort of thing is typically taken out of context and used to convince people to vote D, so the government can tax the living shit out of you.

LOL yup. Fear, fear, fear!!!


No shame. None at all.

[jillian]

Keep this ugly hatefilled shit up America and decent minded countries will cease to trade with you! You fucking southern baggers just know no bounds do you!

Bit hostile for a Canadian, aren't you?

[Peter1469]

Bit hostile for a Canadian, aren't you?

He can't be a Canadian. They couldnt survive without trading with the US.

[Ransom]

you'd think they'd understand they lost because of governor ultrasound.....

i hope they continue to alienate women at every possible turn.

The sheepherder sprays manure, the sheep graze.

[Mainecoons]

It's that thing us single guys do to girls half our age.

Did you get your viagra from Obama?

:grin:

[Dr. Who]

Keep this ugly hatefilled shit up America and decent minded countries will cease to trade with you! You fucking southern baggers just know no bounds do you!
What the heck Monty. What are you responding to?

[patrickt]

Spousal rape is one of the hallmarks of an abusive relationship. Rape is tape and no means no.

And now it's rape even if she doesn't say no.
Cigar is lying again and Jillian gets excited.

[Dr. Who]

I presume spousal rape that includes resistance would also cover bruising and signs of a fight. Otherwise it's his word against hers and I can see how that could be abused.

[The Xl]

Regardless of the intended context, Republicans sure do say dumb shit when it comes to matters like this, and they don't clarify.

[The Xl]

Y'all better be over 40...

If he's 36, he's good to go.

[patrickt]

Regardless of the intended context, Republicans sure do say dumb shit when it comes to matters like this, and they don't clarify.

Do you mean Mother Jones doesn't include the context when they write their story?

For years, husbands who violently raped their wives could be arrested and prosecuted for various charges of assault. Men did go to jail for these assaults. Whether sex occurred during these assaults or not was irrelevant.

Then, the laws changed. Rape no longer involved force or threats of force. Any form of coercion was sufficient. A lawyer explained to me that a wife having sex with her husband when she would rather not was rape. That's fine. That's what the lawyers and some political groups wanted.

And that brings us to the prosecution. In a rape case where a woman is assaulted by a stranger and he forcibly has sex with her there is physical evidence. Hairs, fibers, semen, and more recently, DNA that is used to prove that a specific man had sex with a specific woman. But, none of that matters in a marital rape case because the fact that they had sex is not disputed. In a normal rape case there is sometimes physical injury. Black eyes, busted lips, vaginal tearing, and worse. Those are rarely there in cases of marital rape.

So, you have him saying they had consensual sex and her saying she didn't want to. Well, no does mean no so did she say no? Not necessarily. Saying no or indicating in any way you don't want to have sex isn't required. All that's required is, "I didn't want to."

[Captain Obvious]

Keep this ugly hatefilled shit up America and decent minded countries will cease to trade with you! You fucking southern baggers just know no bounds do you!

woo hoo!

[Captain Obvious]

How the fuck... does a person who typically has or is in a position to have sex with another person suddenly accuse that person whom they typically have sex with of rape?

How is this done?

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I tend to think the likelihood of it being used more as a tool of belligerence is pretty high.

[Cigar]

I call BS. Married people don't want to have sex with each other.

Looks like you made a mistake sport :laugh:

[Toro]

I don't know the context, but this is what he said


“I do not know how you could validly get a conviction of a husband-wife rape, when they’re living together, sleeping in the same bed, she’s in a nightie and so forth,” Black says. “There’s not injuries, there’s no separation or anything.”

He's not saying there isn't spousal rape, or that it's bad. He's saying it's difficult to prove.

I don't know what else he's said about spousal rape, and his comment about abortion being like the Holocaust is inane.

[Toro]

Regardless of the intended context, Republicans sure do say dumb shit when it comes to matters like this, and they don't clarify.

If he's smart, he has to say very quickly that he agrees spousal rape is very bad and should never be acceptable in any marriage.

We'll see if he is smart.