Do we know what we are eating?

[sotmfs]

I just watched an interesting documentary,Food Inc. by Eric Schlosser and Michael Pollan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqQVll-MP3I

[donttread]

What most Americans eat on a daily basis is more chemical than food. And if our good friends at Monsanto et al have learned anything from big tobacco some of those chemicals are appetite stimulants

[sotmfs]

We need a "nestle" type boycott that occurred in the seventies to happen to monsanto.

[Heyduke]

It's also about what we're not eating. You can grow broccoli in a sterile medium and it'll grow with just nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, water and light. But, it won't have minerals in it.

A lot of people eat and get full (and plump), but their cells are starving.

I was in Kauii last year and I couldn't understand why there was anti-GMO graffiti everywhere. Then, a local told me that Monsanto does a lot of test cropping there (cuz the growing season is year round). All that weird pollen is blowing all around the island. Then, of course, they're spraying atrazine on like 12,000 acres there. Atrzine is an herbicide, and also an endocrine distrupter that turns dudes into chicks.

[roadmaster]

I refuse to buy meat in the grocery store. Many people don't even know what a real tomato taste like.

[MrJimmyDale]

I refuse to buy meat in the grocery store. Girlfriend brought a pound of ground chuck home a week ago and I don't think it was even meat.....had to use it to make Sloppy Joes....

[Polecat]

I miss the good ol days when McDonald's didn't lock their dumpsters.

[Peter1469]

Most people are comatose when it comes to food issues like this.

[sotmfs]

http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/8-39-healthy-39-foods-secretly-loaded-sugar-144200389.html

As a general rule of thumb, whatever you eat should have no more than four grams of added sugars per serving. But even "healthy" foods often exceed that by a lot

[Polecat]

Not long ago there was a big TV blitz on how corn syrup was harmless and our body could not distinguish it from any other form of sugar. This obvious propaganda champaign and the epidemic of diabetes seemed to corroborate what I was thinking all along. These fuckers are lying!

[Common]

Heres the simple truth about our food, PROFIT and greed that has insidiously invaded the mindset of every other industry in this country is in the food industry.
Fricken farm raised salmon and tilapia in CHINA where they hang the chicken baskets full of chickens who shit in the water with the fish and thats what the FISH eat that you ultimately eat.

Finally there is a group of senators fighting for stricter seafood laws and inspections. Seafood is mislabled 73% of the time, certain fish like Red Snapper is mislabled 94% of the time, meaning youre paying for red snapper and getting something else.

This is the kind of shit that happens with CORPORATIONS demand NO regulations. You cant leave any corporation on their own especially food, profit comes before morals, safety and even lives to some of them.

[Polecat]

Heres the simple truth about our food, PROFIT and greed that has insidiously invaded the mindset of every other industry in this country is in the food industry.
Fricken farm raised salmon and tilapia in CHINA where they hang the chicken baskets full of chickens who shit in the water with the fish and thats what the FISH eat that you ultimately eat.

Finally there is a group of senators fighting for stricter seafood laws and inspections. Seafood is mislabled 73% of the time, certain fish like Red Snapper is mislabled 94% of the time, meaning youre paying for red snapper and getting something else.

This is the kind of shit that happens with CORPORATIONS demand NO regulations. You cant leave any corporation on their own especially food, profit comes before morals, safety and even lives to some of them.

I don't know about salmon but tilapia are in fact shit eaters by nature.

[Captain Obvious]

I don't know about salmon but tilapia are in fact shit eaters by nature.

Yeah, I tell people that and it's why I don't buy it. Cheap, shit-eating fish - probably mostly from China.

But so are catfish and I get that all the time, so I should just shut up.

[jillian]

Yeah, I tell people that and it's why I don't buy it. Cheap, shit-eating fish - probably mostly from China.

But so are catfish and I get that all the time, so I should just shut up.



Environmentalists encourage eating tilapia. Oceans Alive ranks U.S. farmed tilapia as an “eco-best” choice (http://www.oceansalive.org/eat.cfm?subnav=bestandworst), meaning they don’t damage the environment (through pollution of waters, reduction of biodiversity, overharvesting, etc.). So does National Geographic’s Green Guide (http://www.thegreenguide.com/doc/93/bestfish).
Tilapia are also lower in contaminants than other fish. Growseed (http://growseed.org/tilapia.html) says that: “as concerns about mercury contamination in fish increases, pond-raised tilapia are a safe toxin-free food because they do not build up environmental pollutants in their meat. That’s why Co-op America places tilapia squarely on the “safe” list. (http://www.coopamerica.org/pubs/realmoney/articles/seafood.cfm)
But…um…do they actually eat poop?I have googled and googled and googled, in search of answers to this question. It appears to me that the TILAPIA EAT POOP folks were ultimately informed (directly or indirectly) by the Vomit Island episode of the Dirty Jobs (http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/dirtyjobs/dirtyjobs.html) television show, on the Discovery Channel. In this episode, tilapia are used to clean the poo that has accumulated in the tanks of hybrid striped bass. Fear not, though: not all farmed tilapia are fed on waste matter. For a little reassurance, check out this guy in Maine (http://www.mofga.org/Default.aspx?tabid=631).
How about in their natural environment? You won’t find many wild tilapia in your grocery store, but in their natural enviornment, they thrive on wide variety of natural food organisms (http://rds.hn/index.php?act=Print&client=printdoc&f=55&t=475), including plankton, succulent green leaves, benthic organisms, aquatic invertebrates, larval fish, detritus and decomposing organic matter. The key word there is “detritus,” which includes all kinds of things, including, most likely, fish waste.


So, yes. The answer, to all you TILAPIA EAT POOP Googlers, is “sometimes.” Which maybe should turn me off to eating tilappia, but the more I researched, the more I thought about other things that are fed on disgusting things (like free-range chickens, which eat the bugs out of cow poop; or mushrooms, which feed off decay; or really any kind of food that takes organic fertilizer…including the tomatoes and greenbeans and carrots I myself grew last summer, which were fertilized with composted manure from a nearby horse farm…).

http://cleanerplateclub.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/tilapia-eat-poop-really/

[Polecat]

Yeah, I tell people that and it's why I don't buy it. Cheap, shit-eating fish - probably mostly from China.

But so are catfish and I get that all the time, so I should just shut up.

LOL, Yup they both eat at the same restaurants. Most rodents eat their own shit just to digest the original meal all the way. I worry more about nothing on the plate than I do about what's on the plate.

[Polecat]

http://cleanerplateclub.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/tilapia-eat-poop-really/

The stuff raised here is part of trout farming. Pretty smart stuff. They feed the trout corn nuggets and the trout feed the tilapia processed corn nuggets. I'll eagerly eat either one. Of the fish that is.

[Common]

I don't know about salmon but tilapia are in fact shit eaters by nature.


Starve you long enough and you will eat shit too

[Common]

Yeah, I tell people that and it's why I don't buy it. Cheap, shit-eating fish - probably mostly from China.

But so are catfish and I get that all the time, so I should just shut up.


No one knows what they are really eating anymore. Time and time again we see salmonella outbreaks and tainted food being found AFTER the fact that people are sickened.

[Peter1469]

No one knows what they are really eating anymore. Time and time again we see salmonella outbreaks and tainted food being found AFTER the fact that people are sickened.

Especially if your food is packed in a can, a box, or plastic, and camp from a long distance.

[Peter1469]

Here is a timely article about foods not to avoid: (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2472672/Is-high-fat-diet-GOOD-heart-Doctors-say-carbs-damaging-arteries.html)



Cutting back on butter, cream and fatty meats may have done more harm to heart health than good.

Experts say the belief that high-fat diets are bad for arteries is based on faulty interpretation of scientific studies and has led to millions being ‘over-medicated’ with statin drugs.

Doctors insist it is time to bust the myth of the role of saturated fat in heart disease.

Some western nations, such as Sweden, are now adopting dietary guidelines that encourage foods high in fat but low in carbs.

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[URL="http://naturalsociety.com/8-foods-age-faster-getting-sicker/"]And another on foods to avoid: (http://ec.tynt.com/b/rf?id=bBOTTqvd0r3Pooab7jrHcU&u=DailyMail)

[Captain Obvious]

Yeah so...

I've never had brains before. Wife had them by sort of accident. Grandma made them and didn't tell her what they were. She said it was like stuffing but stopped right away when she found out what they were.

I hear they're great with scrambled eggs so I order a 4-pack of Rose hogs brains in milk from Amazon. Going to make them with scrambled eggs tomorrow morning. We have a shitload of cheese too from Christmas, that will no doubt wind up in there too.

Listen to this - the can (tuna sized can) says the serving size portion has 1060% of the daily requirement of cholesterol.

Yeah, that's right - 1060% - ten times the daily requirement.

I'll tell you how it works out. We have 4 cans, in milk. 25 bucks, probably could have got them for free from the butcher.

[Captain Obvious]

Insert Mongo comment here.

[Dr. Who]

Insert Mongo comment here.

Sorry CO, but brains just aren't an appetizing thought. However I suspect that they are the type of protein that really only tastes as good as the seasoning you use, otherwise probably really bland.

[Polecat]

Insert Mongo comment here.

I was thinking more along the lines of Zombie. Its probably just a stereotype but movie zombies seem to all go for brains.