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MMC
02-28-2012, 11:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4jopm7hYFk

Rick Santorum speaks at Ave Maria University in 2008 and say that Satan has destroyed academia and politics and even the Protestant Church.....snip~

:evil::evil-reading-book-0:evil20:

MMC
02-28-2012, 11:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT9bbadUapo&feature=related

Santorum Mainline Protestants are not Christians.

wingrider
02-29-2012, 12:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT9bbadUapo&feature=related

Santorum Mainline Protestants are not Christians.

well all I can say to santorum is .. only God knows the hearts of people so judge not lest you be judged.

MMC
02-29-2012, 01:06 AM
I hope ALL the Judges Here in the US go to bed remembering that!

wingrider
02-29-2012, 01:26 AM
I hope ALL the Judges Here in the US go to bed remembering that!


very few will keep that in mind but Santorm is about to piss me off.. how dare he say that protestants are not Christian.. He doesn't know what is in peoples hearts or if that person has a personal fellowship with God.. Only God knows that, I was considering voting for that guy but now now,, he can piss up a rope for all I care.. how dare he put himself above God..

MMC
02-29-2012, 11:16 AM
Looks like he has pissed you off after seeing your response in the other thread. :laugh:

Conley
02-29-2012, 11:23 AM
I don't hear Santorum making that claim (Protestants are not Christians) in the video.

Mister D
02-29-2012, 11:35 AM
I listened to this and I didn't hear that claim made either. Yet another lie about Santorum.

MMC
02-29-2012, 11:37 AM
I don't hear Santorum making that claim (Protestants are not Christians) in the video.


Did you listen to the first one? He mentions them in there too. I didn't know he went up to Canada an gave a Speech about the Gov while talking about Satan destroying America. Wonder how all those other Christian Nations feel now that Santorum pretty much counted them out from Anything as Satan would be only coming after us. As we are the Best or Top of the Chart.

Mister D
02-29-2012, 11:42 AM
Much of the recent Santorum criticism I've seen is irrational to say the least.

Conley
02-29-2012, 11:42 AM
Did you listen to the first one? He mentions them in there too. I didn't know he went up to Canada an gave a Speech about the Gov while talking about Satan destroying America. Wonder how all those other Christian Nations feel now that Santorum pretty much counted them out from Anything as Satan would be only coming after us. As we are the Best or Top of the Chart.

Yeah, we are #1 for Satan. I listened to the first 30 seconds when he said the US was Satan's only target or something like that. I'm not a fan of his and it sounded silly so I stopped.

MMC
02-29-2012, 12:11 PM
Yeah.....it didn't go over to well with the Canadians. Plus there were some remarks overseas about him and his Satan. He really does go off on the Deep end talking bout such. Most Catholics I have been around rarely want to talk about Satan or evil shit. Other than what is mentioned in the Bible.

I listened to the whole Video on the other. No where did he say that Protestants werent Christians. He has mentioned before about Satan influencing the Protestant Christian. Although I think he was referring to those on the left with their Christian upbringings.

Captain Obvious
02-29-2012, 05:04 PM
Much of the recent Santorum criticism I've seen is irrational to say the least.

Iran's portrayal of the US as the "Great Satan" is taken out of context from what I've read, they're really saying "Great Oppressor" or something like that.

Having said that, I think Santorum's views are pretty dangerous. I don't know if he's being taken out of context or not but I've read some fairly backward-thinking quotes from him.

Everything you ever wanted to know about Santorum and more - we know Wikipedia is unbiased and complete factual. :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum


Separation of religious views and public life In an interview with the National Catholic Reporter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Catholic_Reporter), Santorum said that the distinction between private religious conviction and public responsibility, espoused according to Santorum by President John F. Kennedy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy), had caused "great harm in America." He said: "All of us have heard people say, 'I privately am against abortion, homosexual marriage, stem cell research, cloning. But who am I to decide that it's not right for somebody else?' It sounds good, but it is the corruption of freedom of conscience."[/URL]

Same-sex marriage and reproductive rightsIn his 2005 book, It Takes a Family (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum#cite_note-Allen-143), Santorum advocated for a more "family values"-oriented society centered on monogamous, heterosexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosexual) relationships, marriage, and child-raising. While prior to his running for congress Santorum considered himself pro-choice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-choice), (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum#cite_note-144) he has since changed his position to pro-life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum#cite_note-146). He opposes same-sex marriage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage), saying the American public and their elected officials should decide on these "incredibly important moral issues", rather than the Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States), which consists of "nine unelected, unaccountable judges." Santorum has stated that he does not believe a "right to privacy" is part of the Constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Constitution). He has been critical of the Supreme Court decision in Griswold v. Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut) (1965), which held that the Constitution guaranteed that right and overturned a law prohibiting the sale of contraceptives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_control) to married couples. He has described contraception as "a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be," (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum#cite_note-wrecking_ball-148) and said in 2003 that he favors having laws against polygamy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy), adultery, sodomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy), and other actions "antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family". In 2003, Santorum became the subject of a controversy when he juxtaposed same-sex marriage with pedophilia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum#cite_note-usa_today-149) and bestiality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestiality) during an interview. The remarks drew a retaliatory response from gay rights activist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum#cite_note-usa_today-149) Dan Savage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Savage), who launched a contest to coin a "santorum" neologism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_%22santorum%22_neologism) among his blog's readers. The outcome was a description pertaining to anal sex, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum#cite_note-savage-150) and since 2004, the website Savage set up for the campaign has regularly been among the top search results for Santorum's surname, leading to what commentators have dubbed "Santorum's Google problem". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum#cite_note-google_problem-151) Santorum has characterized the campaign as a "type of vulgarity" that was spread on the Internet.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_santorum#cite_note-rollcall-152"] In September 2011, Santorum unsuccessfully requested that Google remove the content from its search engine index

MMC
02-29-2012, 05:23 PM
Yeah we figured you have the Scoop on Santorum.....Cap. :wink:

Mister D
02-29-2012, 06:07 PM
Mind you, I'm not a Santorum fan but I do have a better opinion of him now that he's been attacked so vociferously and so dishonestly. He seems to be pissing a lot of the right people off.

Captain Obvious
02-29-2012, 06:19 PM
Mind you, I'm not a Santorum fan but I do have a better opinion of him now that he's been attacked so vociferously and so dishonestly. He seems to be pissing a lot of the right people off.

He's becoming a potential front runner, that brings out the worst in people seemingly.

Just ask Herman Cain.

I heard the Governer (or former Gov) of Mississippi on NPR today (of all platforms) talking about the GOP front runner. I'm guessing NPR decided to air this interview because he sounds a lot like a shit kicking good ol' boy, but he suggested that many in the GOP are concerned that Santorum is running on a socially conservative platform and while that's fine and dandy with the GOP MO, issues with the economy overshadow social matters greatly this time around.

He also stated that his top front runner strength that he hears from fellow GOPers is electability. Doesn't matter what they run on as long as they can get BO out of office, they'll support him.

Mister D
02-29-2012, 06:23 PM
:laugh: I know who you;re talking about. I have a mental image of his face but I can't remember his name. Haley something? Barbour? That is not the place I'd expect to see a GOP governor from MS!

Anyway, I agree with that. Santorum, should he ever win the nomination, will have to change his focus fundamentally. I think social issues are important but I know with a lot of voters, particularly independents, the bread and butter issues predominate.

Pendragon
03-01-2012, 11:57 AM
I will have you know that American National Public Radio is one of the more unbiased news sources to which we have access.

Mister D
03-01-2012, 12:02 PM
I will have you know that American National Public Radio is one of the more unbiased news sources to which we have access.

I have no doubt that you actually believe that.

Pat
03-01-2012, 12:13 PM
yMy keyboard is having a problem here. This charge by Rick Santorium that a satan type entity is destroying America has no logical basis in fact. He offers up no proof nor ausal cc casual connection whatsoever. Shouldn't a man coveting the presidency respect the fact tha tnot everybody believes in magical characters like satan? I think hip unfounded opinion is devisive and unnecessary. If he want to address some specific social concern, then do so and quit blaming a boogey man. He should indet indentify the problem, search out the actual source of the problem, assess blame and enlist help in solving the problem. In my opinion. m

Conley
03-01-2012, 12:21 PM
yMy keyboard is having a problem here. This charge by Rick Santorium that a satan type entity is destroying America has no logical basis in fact. He offers up no proof nor ausal cc casual connection whatsoever. Shouldn't a man coveting the presidency respect the fact tha tnot everybody believes in magical characters like satan? I think hip unfounded opinion is devisive and unnecessary. If he want to address some specific social concern, then do so and quit blaming a boogey man. He should indet indentify the problem, search out the actual source of the problem, assess blame and enlist help in solving the problem. In my opinion. m

I don't know how much he blames Satan for American's problems. That speech linked above was from 2008 I believe. If he is continuing to speak about Satan, or worse, if he really believes that is why we're having trouble, I'm even more concerned about the guy. In my opinion it is very defeatist to think in those terms, that some evil power is controlling things and we're just along for the ride. I would rather give my vote to someone who is going to proactively work to better our country through tangible policies. Like I said earlier though, I have not listened to a lot from him because whenever I've given his speeches a listen they haven't grabbed me. I still think he is another 'flavor of the week' like Perry, Cain, Gingrich, etc. and that Romney will end up taking this.

MMC
03-02-2012, 07:43 AM
I will have you know that American National Public Radio is one of the more unbiased news sources to which we have access.

You are correct in the aspect of the actual news they report. Not so much with anything else. Hence why it is called opinion, talk radio!

Peter1469
03-02-2012, 08:02 AM
At least when Santorum gives a speech in a church, like the 2008 Satan speech, he talks about stuff he believes in rather than read a speech written by a staffer about topics they don't know a thing about.