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patrickt
01-22-2014, 07:23 AM
"(CNSNews.com) -- A record 20% of American households, one in five, were on food stamps in 2013, according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA)"
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/record-20-households-food-stamps-2013#sthash.FaYSzQe7.dpuf

Do you believe that one out of every five households in the U.S. needs food stamps? Of course, it helps that the criteria are designed for fraud.

http://www.ehow.com/info_7766616_food-stamp-eligibility-criteria.html

See, certain types of income don't count. Isn't that handy? So, if you're living with a woman who gets $3,000 a month in child support for two children, you don't have to count that. You might ask why anyone with that kind of income, even if it doesn't count, would want food stamps. Why not? It's free money. Just like free health care, free education, free speech. Nobody has to pay for it.

And my favorite criteria. "When your household applies for SNAP food stamp benefits, each member must provide a valid Social Security number. This proves your citizenship and residency in the United States." Wow! That's amazing. I've lived in Mexico for fifteen years and I can get food stamps from the U.S. because my Social Security number proves my citizenship and my residency. And, I have a friend, currently in California illegally, and she has a Social Security account, quite legally, but she isn't a U.S. citizen.

Of course, giving a government official a nine-digit number establishes neither citizenship nor residency. Only in the liberal mind. I learned last year that when someone submitted an income tax return--for a refund--using my Social Security number the IRS didn't bother to cross-check the number and the name. Why would they? Their job is to get that bogus return to a Democrat voter as quickly as possible. And we all know, now, that the government can't run a computer network. They can't even design a functioning webpage.

But, it does explain why the Democrats spend U.S. taxpayer dollars advertising food stamps in Mexico.

Liberals are so used to fraud they just can't help it.

So, one out of five households is on food stamps. But, are the liberals satisfied. They are not. They will not be satisfied until at least half of the people in the U.S.--whether citizens or not--are bowing down to the government for food, housing, education, medical care, entertainment, and all other "essential" services.

It's sad but what's even sadder is so many people will walk around, shaking their heads, and saying, "So many people in the U.S. are so poor that 20% are on food stamps. Tsk, tsk, tsk."

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 07:33 AM
And what % of that % votes democrat?

exotix
01-22-2014, 07:35 AM
I don't know why conservatives insist on blaming Libs ... it doesn't fool anybody and they sound like right-wing-nutcases every time they do.

jillian
01-22-2014, 07:38 AM
And what % of that % votes democrat?

given that the highest rates of poverty are in red states, what do you think?

http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/slideshows/the-10-poorest-states-in-the-union/3

patrickt
01-22-2014, 07:39 AM
I don't know why Exotix keeps posting since her comments are so predictable. Left-wing nut cases always are.

But, no comment on the topic, Exotix. How fucking surprising.

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 07:40 AM
given that the highest rates of poverty are in red states, what do you think?

http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/slideshows/the-10-poorest-states-in-the-union/3

My guess is that a solid majority of food stamp recipients vote dem.

exotix
01-22-2014, 07:42 AM
I don't know why Exotix keeps posting since her comments are so predictable. Left-wing nut cases always are.

But, no comment on the topic, Exotix. How fucking surprising.
Even a Rushbo retard knows blaming Libs for the Bush Great Depression to filibuster and obstruction of stimulus and recovery to Christie and Gov Vagisound doesn't fool anybody

patrickt
01-22-2014, 08:25 AM
My guess is that a solid majority of food stamp recipients vote dem.

That would obviously be my guess, too. An acquaintance who volunteered as a liberal thug to go to nursing homes with already completed absentee ballots defending the practice by saying, "Obviously, everyone in a nursing home should vote for liberals but some are too senile to realize it so I'm helping them." I'm sure it's the same with food stamp recipients. I wonder if liberals have considered requiring food stamp recipients to sign an absentee ballot to get their food stamps?

Mainecoons
01-22-2014, 08:31 AM
My guess is that a solid majority of food stamp recipients vote dem.

If they vote at all.

exotix
01-22-2014, 08:33 AM
My guess is that a solid majority of food stamp recipients vote dem.
If they vote at all.
http://i39.tinypic.com/sg4nwx.gif


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 08:35 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/sg4nwx.gif


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8

I used to work with that dude at a law firm in Pittsburgh when he was a summer associate there.

Total quack.

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 08:36 AM
If they vote at all.

Exactly.

I'll still go out on that limb and suggest of the food stamp recipients who actually vote, a strong majority of them vote democrat.

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 08:38 AM
Here:

According to Pew, dems more than 2-1 over GOP.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients.

patrickt
01-22-2014, 08:39 AM
Here:

According to Pew, dems more than 2-1 over GOP.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients.

Keep in mind, these are the very people liberals think aren't bright enough to get an ID to vote.

And the fraudulent nature of the criteria for food stamps clearly make it a liberal program. Just think, a friend of mine quite justifiably receiving Social Security benefits and living in Santa Ana de Valle, a Zapotec village, is eligible for food stamps. His SS# would determine his eligibility and his food stamps could be sent to an address in California where he worked for thirty years. Not being a crook, he doesn't do it but then he's also not a liberal.

Mainecoons
01-22-2014, 08:41 AM
Here:

According to Pew, dems more than 2-1 over GOP.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients.

Good find, Captain. This should surprise no one, what is that quote about democracies last as long as it takes the people to discover the government's treasury?

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 08:43 AM
Good find, Captain. This should surprise no one, what is that quote about democracies last as long as it takes the people to discover the government's treasury?

Yeah, I was thinking of that quote.
Chris was the one who uses it most often.

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 08:44 AM
Even a Rushbo retard knows blaming Libs for the Bush Great Depression to filibuster and obstruction of stimulus and recovery to Christie and Gov Vagisound doesn't fool anybody

What did Bush do to cause the Great Recession again????

Last time you posted a video of him saying that wall street got drunk when it was at 14000???? It is not at 16+ thousand with a worse economy?

So why don't you show us how the republicans caused the housing collapse, when they were the ones trying to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac???

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/the-white-house-warned-congress-about-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-17-times-in-2008-alone/

Cigar
01-22-2014, 08:46 AM
Lets all pretend these things never happened ...


A Breif History of the Debt/Deficit Debate Over The Last 20 Years
1993
Bill Clinton is sworn into office amid an economic slump, and he wants to pass a major stimulus bill. He is talked out of doing that by Alan Greenspan and bond traders. They tell him to focus on the deficit/debt. He does and in the summer of 1993, Clinton's deficit reduction plan is passed into law by one vote. No Republicans support his plan.

1994
Because Clinton raised taxes, the Gingrich Revolution uses it as a wedge issue to win control of the Congress.

1995 to 2000
The yearly deficits slowly disappear, and a small surplus emerges.

2000
During the presidential campaign of 2000, Al Gore wants to put the surplus into a lock box to shore up Social Security. He is openly ridiculed and mocked by the DC Beltway punditry.

2001
George W. Bush assumes power after a highly questionable election. One of his first acts as president is to pass a massive tax cuts without any spending cuts to offset it. He even makes his cuts retroactive, and tax rebate checks were mailed out to everyone. By August 2001, the surplus is gone and we slip back into deficits. Not a peep is heard by the media. NOTHING.

2001 to 2008
Bush runs up massive deficits each year of his presidency. In the middle of two wars, he passed yet another tax cut without paying for it. He signs into law a prescription drug benefit without paying for it as well. It all culminates in the grandaddy of all spending, the TARP bailout fund of 2008.

2009
Barack Obama is sworn into office amid the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. He passes a scaled-down stimulus bill, and now, after a 8 year slumber, the DC Beltway media begins screaming about the debt and deficit. Also, a Tea Party movement emerges over the debt/deficit issue.

2010
Because the economy is still sluggish--in part due to the scaled down stimulus-- the Republicans are able to take control of the House of Representatives. They threaten not to lift the debt ceiling because of the size of the debt and deficit.

2012 to 2013
Barack Obama is re-elected. The DC Beltway chrous grows louder with cries about the debt/deficit.


Summary
I left out a lot of details, but I captured the gist of these events. The point of this post is to clearly show that when Republicans are out of power, they, and the media, immediately start crying sbout the debt/deficits. However, when they are in power, there's not even a peep out of either of them about it.

For 8 damn years, Bush ran up the deficit and debt without the media nor the Republicans saying a word. The man passed tax cuts in the middle of two wars, and the only person I recall complaining about it were commentators on Air America radio.

So, don't fall for this b.s. about the debt/deficit. It's another hoax just like the Iraq war.



*****************************

Democrats have rounded on revelations about a private dinner of House Republicans on inauguration day in 2009 in which they plotted a campaign of obstruction against newly installed president Barack Obama.

During a lengthy discussion, the senior GOP members worked out a plan to repeatedly block Obama over the coming four years to try to ensure he would not be re-elected.

The disclosures – described as "appalling and sad" by Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod – undermine Republican claims that the president alone is to blame for the partisan deadlock in Washington.

A detailed account of who was present at the dinner on that January 20 night and the plan they worked out to bring down Obama is provided by Robert Draper in 'Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the US House of Representatives', published this week.

In his book, Draper opens with the heady atmosphere in Washington on the days running up to the inauguration and the day itself, which attracted 1.8 million to the mall to witness Obama being sworn in as America's first black president.

Those numbers contributed to a growing sense of unease among Republicans as much the defeat in the White House race the previous November. The 15 Republicans were in a sombre mood as they gathered at the Caucus Room in Washington, an upscale restaurant where a New York strip steak costs $51.

Attending the dinner were House members Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate were Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl. Others present were former House Speaker and future – and failed – presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and the Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who organised the dinner and sent out the invitations.

The dinner table was set in a square at Luntz's request so everyone could see one another and talk freely. The session lasted four hours and by the end the sombre mood had lifted: they had conceived a plan. They would take back the House in November 2010, which they did, and use it as a spear to mortally wound Obama in 2011 and take back the Senate and White House in 2012, Draper writes.

"If you act like you're the minority, you're going to stay in the minority," said Keven McCarthy, quoted by Draper. "We've gotta challenge them on every single bill and challenge them on every single campaign."

The Republicans have done that, bringing Washington to a near standstill several times during Obama's first term over debt and other issues.



What a surprise (not)! Next time any of our righties tries to say they weren't the "Party of No"--or maybe they won't, given the facts are out, maybe they'll just defend the planned obstructionism. I remember how long I resisted believing this was their plan. But these revelations are the first time we have actual evidence for the American people to see that the GOP has put country last and party first, and tried to grind the entire country to a halt (which they did). Keep in mind this night was during a month where 800,000 jobs were lost and the economy was about to go off a cliff. They were plotting from the very beginning, literally, on how to make sure that Obama would not succeed in making things better for Americans - not because they disagreed with him - but because they wanted power. After these revelations I don't see how people can, in good conscience, support this party. But of course, they will.

exotix
01-22-2014, 08:46 AM
What did Bush do to cause the Great Recession again????

Last time you posted a video of him saying that wall street got drunk when it was at 14000???? It is not at 16+ thousand with a worse economy?

So why don't you show us how the republicans caused the housing collapse, when they were the ones trying to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac???

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/the-white-house-warned-congress-about-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-17-times-in-2008-alone/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-fFj-ujuB4

Chris
01-22-2014, 08:59 AM
Yeah, I was thinking of that quote.
Chris was the one who uses it most often.

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

~allegedly Alexander Tytler

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 09:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-fFj-ujuB4

Yes I was totally against TARP?

What caused the need for TARP???

nathanbforrest45
01-22-2014, 09:15 AM
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

~allegedly Alexander Tytler


I think we are in the apathy to dependence stage at the present.

exotix
01-22-2014, 09:16 AM
Yes I was totally against TARP?

What caused the need for TARP???
Notice how Bush exits the Whitehouse adding $2 Trillion to the National-Debt to bailout the banks after adding $3 Trillion for his wars ... how much Stimulus did you get ?

Cigar
01-22-2014, 09:20 AM
Notice how Bush exits the Whitehouse adding $2 Trillion to the National-Debt to bailout the banks after adding $3 Trillion for his wars ... how much Stimulus did you get ?

Shhhh ... they don't want to hear that ... look over here ----------------------------------------> Benghaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

nathanbforrest45
01-22-2014, 09:21 AM
oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Its all booosh'es fault

oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 10:12 AM
Notice how Bush exits the Whitehouse adding $2 Trillion to the National-Debt to bailout the banks after adding $3 Trillion for his wars ... how much Stimulus did you get ?

First lets get the numbers correct instead of the liberal lies!

http://nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/

1.5 Trillion to date on the Wars, about 500 billion of that has been since Obama took office! So you have that incorrect.

http://home.adelphi.edu/~bl16056/deficits.html

However you were wrong on the national debt accumulated by Bush! it was over 4 trillion not 3 trillion

http://home.adelphi.edu/~bl16056/deficits.html (Obama will be nearly 10 trillion at the end of his 8 years in comparison)

Now Tarp 1 was Bush. Tarp @ the GM bailout, and the Stimulus is Obama and expanding the federal government by about 25% is also Obama~

Now that has been a move by liberals that like to Lie to credit the debt for 2009 to Bush and I am OK with that? But then 2001 would go to Clinton and thus Bush did not inherit a surplus but a deficit! He was not President for 9 years!

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 10:13 AM
Shhhh ... they don't want to hear that ... look over here ----------------------------------------> Benghaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

See those pesky little things that liberals hate called FACTS I posted them below!

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 10:14 AM
oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Its all booosh'es fault

oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

And yet now one of our liberal friends can show me just what policy of the Bush administration caused the economic collapse??

And I keep asking again, and again, and again, and again!

One would think that this would be an easy question???

exotix
01-22-2014, 10:16 AM
First lets get the numbers correct instead of the liberal lies!

http://nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/

1.5 Trillion to date on the Wars, about 500 billion of that has been since Obama took office! So you have that incorrect.

http://home.adelphi.edu/~bl16056/deficits.html

However you were wrong on the national debt accumulated by Bush! it was over 4 trillion not 3 trillion

http://home.adelphi.edu/~bl16056/deficits.html (Obama will be nearly 10 trillion at the end of his 8 years in comparison)

Now Tarp 1 was Bush. Tarp @ the GM bailout, and the Stimulus is Obama and expanding the federal government by about 25% is also Obama~

Now that has been a move by liberals that like to Lie to credit the debt for 2009 to Bush and I am OK with that? But then 2001 would go to Clinton and thus Bush did not inherit a surplus but a deficit! He was not President for 9 years!
I didn't see the interest racking-up for you, your wife, your children, your childrens' children, your childrens' childrens' children, your childrens' childrens' childrens' children ... and your dog ... will pay for eternity ...

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 10:18 AM
I didn't see the interest racking-up for you, your wife, your children, your childrens' children, your childrens' childrens' children, your childrens' childrens' childrens' children ... and your dog ... will pay for eternity ...

Actually YES I did, I am a constitutionalist, and I do not believe in deficit spending at all zero!

Now maybe you can help me with this??

WE both agree that the 4 trillion + that Bush added to the national debt is terrible and a burden to our children! and that we will likely never pay this off?

Why is it that the 10 Trillion that Obama will add to the national debt is not problem with those on the left?

Ransom
01-22-2014, 10:18 AM
Notice how Bush exits the Whitehouse adding $2 Trillion to the National-Debt to bailout the banks after adding $3 Trillion for his wars ... how much Stimulus did you get ?

This from someone who believes Obama had decreased the national debt. Forum...this particular member doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to the national debt and received the second place award last year because of it. Tread lightly during any conversations, this isn't an informed constituent.

Moving on.:wink:

Mainecoons
01-22-2014, 10:20 AM
Arguing over who was more damaging, Bush versus Obama, is like arguing over which of two terribly ugly people is uglier.

:grin:

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 10:20 AM
This from someone who believes Obama had decreased the national debt. Forum...this particular member doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to the national debt and received the second place award last year because of it. Tread lightly during any conversations, this isn't an informed constituent.

Moving on.:wink:

Well I did post the FACTS???

and he has to dispute those with FACTS that would show differently, I am not going to take his world for it as he is a liberal and they lie!

exotix
01-22-2014, 10:23 AM
This from someone who believes Obama had decreased the national debt. Forum...this particular member doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to the national debt and received the second place award last year because of it. Tread lightly during any conversations, this isn't an informed constituent.

Moving on.:wink:
No ... we're not moving on ... we're discussing why people are on welfare because of Libs ... which is a lie ... it's because of Bush and todays' conservatism ... so hijacking this thread doesn't fool anybody.

nathanbforrest45
01-22-2014, 10:23 AM
Well I did post the FACTS???

and he has to dispute those with FACTS that would show differently, I am not going to take his world for it as he is a liberal and they lie!

The Hell you say?????

exotix
01-22-2014, 10:27 AM
Actually YES I did, I am a constitutionalist, and I do not believe in deficit spending at all zero!

Now maybe you can help me with this??

WE both agree that the 4 trillion + that Bush added to the national debt is terrible and a burden to our children! and that we will likely never pay this off?

Why is it that the 10 Trillion that Obama will add to the national debt is not problem with those on the left?
We didn't agree on shit ... so please quit staring at me while picking your nose looking all dumb as if to assume retard of the subject ... LOL.

patrickt
01-22-2014, 10:27 AM
Arguing over who was more damaging, Bush versus Obama, is like arguing over which of two terribly ugly people is uglier.

:grin:

Rep. Nancy Pelosi.

Ransom
01-22-2014, 10:39 AM
Actually YES I did, I am a constitutionalist, and I do not believe in deficit spending at all zero!

Now maybe you can help me with this??

WE both agree that the 4 trillion + that Bush added to the national debt is terrible and a burden to our children! and that we will likely never pay this off?

Why is it that the 10 Trillion that Obama will add to the national debt is not problem with those on the left?

You do realize...exotix is under the mistaken opinion that Obama has decreased the national debt, zelmo?

Ransom
01-22-2014, 10:42 AM
No ... we're not moving on ... we're discussing why people are on welfare because of Libs ... which is a lie ... it's because of Bush and todays' conservatism ... so hijacking this thread doesn't fool anybody.

I'm not hijacking, only informing other members that you're in here speaking to the national debt while believing Obama has decreased it. You seem to think you're informed enough to speak to our national debt, I'm merely explaining to other members that you're clearly not. You were misled and convinced wrongly by another member of this forum, everyone should know that going in. You have no credibility here.

moving on.

Ransom
01-22-2014, 10:45 AM
Well I did post the FACTS???

and he has to dispute those with FACTS that would show differently, I am not going to take his world for it as he is a liberal and they lie!

You did post facts, I also listed per year deficits of 1.4, 1.3, 1.3, 1.1, and 670 billion to show Obama had indeed added nearly 6 trillion to the debt devastating his argument further. I've been trying in vain to find out who misled him, who used him as a puppet...he has yet to respond.

exotix
01-22-2014, 10:46 AM
I'm not hijacking, only informing other members that you're in here speaking to the national debt while believing Obama has decreased it. You seem to think you're informed enough to speak to our national debt, I'm merely explaining to other members that you're clearly not. You were misled and convinced wrongly by another member of this forum, everyone should know that going in. You have no credibility here.

moving on.

Yes but notice how you hijacked the thread as if to assume picking your nose in front of us looking all dumb fools anybody .... http://i39.tinypic.com/sg4nwx.jpg

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 10:46 AM
No ... we're not moving on ... we're discussing why people are on welfare because of Libs ... which is a lie ... it's because of Bush and todays' conservatism ... so hijacking this thread doesn't fool anybody.

So would you be so kind as to post those policies that caused the crash of 2008 and let us all know how they are tied to GWB you must remember we are only conservatives! We need your assistance. However we like to deal in facts and the real world so we are not likely to take your word for it!

So it would be of great benefit if you could link to something of substance. I will give you and example!

http://cw.ua.edu/2011/11/17/clint-carter-policies-true-reason-for-housing-bubble/

You see the reason for the recession was the collapse of the housing bubble, and the cause of that bubble was the policies of Carter and Clinton, they were not Republican in case you did not know that

Ransom
01-22-2014, 10:47 AM
BTW, my personal opinion of who misled this little lamb..it was jillian

exotix
01-22-2014, 10:48 AM
So would you be so kind as to post those policies that caused the crash of 2008 and let us all know how they are tied to GWB you must remember we are only conservatives! We need your assistance. However we like to deal in facts and the real world so we are not likely to take your word for it!

So it would be of great benefit if you could link to something of substance. I will give you and example!

http://cw.ua.edu/2011/11/17/clint-carter-policies-true-reason-for-housing-bubble/

You see the reason for the recession was the collapse of the housing bubble, and the cause of that bubble was the policies of Carter and Clinton, they were not Republican in case you did not know that
Easy ... who controlled Congress from 2001 to 2006 ?

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 10:49 AM
You do realize...exotix is under the mistaken opinion that Obama has decreased the national debt, zelmo?

Well as I have said before, there is no way that I could even employ him to sweep floors in constructions sites.

Some people are just Stupid! He wants free stuff, and will never be able to hold a job because he has nothing of value to offer!

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 10:49 AM
http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/33a/563/3b3/resized/yeezy-lepe-1-meme-generator-she-on-welfare-and-food-stamps-but-she-got-that-iphone-5-tho-8222c3.jpg?1357604650.jpg

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 10:49 AM
http://callmemike.edublogs.org/files/2012/11/foodstamps-13a071o.jpg

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 10:50 AM
http://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/608927.jpg

Ransom
01-22-2014, 10:50 AM
Yes but notice how you hijacked the thread as if to assume picking your nose in front of us looking all dumb fools anybody .... http://i39.tinypic.com/sg4nwx.jpg

I noticed how you were speaking to how much Bush increased out debt......without a link.....while informing the rest of the forum that you're of the opinion Obama has decreased our national debt. And I mean....I've never heard of anyone...much less met anyone....or exchanged with anyone else who thinks that...save for two people. Yourself and Jillian. I believe she convinced you and you've grazed along baaaing at everything she said. She seems to be your mentor.....I would highly advise altering your sources of information. Your current being corrupt and flat out mistaken.

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 10:51 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ad/adb4145fa08dd4ad892e762f31b634bf0860a18eacfc90e056 becb9ab23e8d69.jpg

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 10:51 AM
http://troll.me/images/obama-meh/let-them-collect-food-stamps-i-did-and-now-i-run-the-country-thumb.jpg

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 10:52 AM
Easy ... who controlled Congress from 2001 to 2006 ?

Now here we actually have some agreement? He did have the opportunity to repeal this and actually tried 17 times but was too much of a pussy to stand up to the calls of Racism by Franks, Dodd and the CBC!

He also could not overcome the Democratic filibuster! As he did not have 60 votes in the Senate!

SO NOW WHO HAD A FILIBUSITER PROOF CONGRESS IS 2008-2009? And why is this President not responsible for anything when he had NO opposition?

Ransom
01-22-2014, 10:53 AM
Well as I have said before, there is no way that I could even employ him to sweep floors in constructions sites.

Some people are just Stupid! He wants free stuff, and will never be able to hold a job because he has nothing of value to offer!

Some are....but some are innocently misled as well, zelmo. I believe exotix just didn't know any better, allowed others to lead him astray, and has been dangled like a puppet...played on. I believe there is salvage here, exotix isn't to be completely written off. Not like his mentor.

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 10:55 AM
Some are....but some are innocently misled as well, zelmo. I believe exotix just didn't know any better, allowed others to lead him astray, and has been dangled like a puppet...played on. I believe there is salvage here, exotix isn't to be completely written off. Not like his mentor.

No I am pretty good a reading people he has hate in him and that can't be overcome! He is a total waste of air!

nathanbforrest45
01-22-2014, 11:03 AM
Rep. Nancy Pelosi.

Barbara Mikulski

Of course they are both from Baltimore.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/01/16/barbara-mikulski-the-iron-fisted-woman-who-helped-congress-find-common-ground

nathanbforrest45
01-22-2014, 11:06 AM
exotix is a she.

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 11:07 AM
exotix is a she.

No, Eddie is a he

patrickt
01-22-2014, 11:19 AM
Exotix is a nut. Gender is irrelevant and possibly unknown even by Exotix.

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 11:22 AM
Exotix is a nut. Gender is irrelevant and possibly unknown even by Exotix.

Just like Cigar - two dudes I'd go have a beer or thee with in a heartbeat.

Political douchebags on the forum but I bet they're cool dudes in person.

Chris
01-22-2014, 11:29 AM
I think we are in the apathy to dependence stage at the present.

One foot in apathy, the other in bondage.

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 11:32 AM
One foot in apathy, the other in bondage.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/360/f/3/bondage_by_xxxbloody_blossomxxx-d35qdpw.jpg

Ransom
01-22-2014, 11:41 AM
Just like Cigar - two dudes I'd go have a beer or thee with in a heartbeat.

Political douchebags on the forum but I bet they're cool dudes in person.

But, whereas Cigar would run out on the tab, I don't believe exotix would be aware one needed to be paid. He would think the beer was just another handout and thus not expected to pay, imo, cigar would excuse himself for the restroom and bail.

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 12:00 PM
exotix is a she.

I don't think so that is just some singer that he thinks is hot! That is what I was told anyway?????

nathanbforrest45
01-22-2014, 12:04 PM
I don't think so that is just some singer that he thinks is hot! That is what I was told anyway?????

Perhaps
But I believe it to be a she.

No logical reason. Just my belief.

Captain Obvious
01-22-2014, 12:08 PM
no logical reason. Just my belief.

qft

patrickt
01-22-2014, 12:53 PM
But, whereas Cigar would run out on the tab, I don't believe exotix would be aware one needed to be paid. He would think the beer was just another handout and thus not expected to pay, imo, cigar would excuse himself for the restroom and bail.

And Jillian would wait for you to pay, sneer, and call you a sexist pig.

Mini Me
01-22-2014, 02:09 PM
"(CNSNews.com) -- A record 20% of American households, one in five, were on food stamps in 2013, according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA)"
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/record-20-households-food-stamps-2013#sthash.FaYSzQe7.dpuf

Do you believe that one out of every five households in the U.S. needs food stamps? Of course, it helps that the criteria are designed for fraud.

http://www.ehow.com/info_7766616_food-stamp-eligibility-criteria.html

See, certain types of income don't count. Isn't that handy? So, if you're living with a woman who gets $3,000 a month in child support for two children, you don't have to count that. You might ask why anyone with that kind of income, even if it doesn't count, would want food stamps. Why not? It's free money. Just like free health care, free education, free speech. Nobody has to pay for it.

And my favorite criteria. "When your household applies for SNAP food stamp benefits, each member must provide a valid Social Security number. This proves your citizenship and residency in the United States." Wow! That's amazing. I've lived in Mexico for fifteen years and I can get food stamps from the U.S. because my Social Security number proves my citizenship and my residency. And, I have a friend, currently in California illegally, and she has a Social Security account, quite legally, but she isn't a U.S. citizen.

Of course, giving a government official a nine-digit number establishes neither citizenship nor residency. Only in the liberal mind. I learned last year that when someone submitted an income tax return--for a refund--using my Social Security number the IRS didn't bother to cross-check the number and the name. Why would they? Their job is to get that bogus return to a Democrat voter as quickly as possible. And we all know, now, that the government can't run a computer network. They can't even design a functioning webpage.

But, it does explain why the Democrats spend U.S. taxpayer dollars advertising food stamps in Mexico.

Liberals are so used to fraud they just can't help it.

So, one out of five households is on food stamps. But, are the liberals satisfied. They are not. They will not be satisfied until at least half of the people in the U.S.--whether citizens or not--are bowing down to the government for food, housing, education, medical care, entertainment, and all other "essential" services.

It's sad but what's even sadder is so many people will walk around, shaking their heads, and saying, "So many people in the U.S. are so poor that 20% are on food stamps. Tsk, tsk, tsk."

CNS News- "The right news, right now!" Very right!

I think the oligarchs are priming us for the likely possibility that many more of us will be poor, very soon!

Ah, well, there will always be room for the masses of poor at the FEMA camps, after the Food Stamp program is abolished by the Rethuglicans. Everyone will work there!

The sign at the entrance will say: "Arbeit Macht Frei"-Work will set you free.

Mini Me
01-22-2014, 02:15 PM
Here:

According to Pew, dems more than 2-1 over GOP.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients.

So why would they vote for Rethugs who want to put them out on the street?

And its not as if Rethugs are immune to being unemployed.

Mini Me
01-22-2014, 02:21 PM
What did Bush do to cause the Great Recession again????

Last time you posted a video of him saying that wall street got drunk when it was at 14000???? It is not at 16+ thousand with a worse economy?

Rethuglican mythology!

How many Wall Street crooks that caused the collapse are Duhmocraps? Probably none! Alan Greenspan, the Pied piper of deregulation and wanton lending, always a Rethug!

So why don't you show us how the republicans caused the housing collapse, when they were the ones trying to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac???

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/the-white-house-warned-congress-about-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-17-times-in-2008-alone/

Mini Me
01-22-2014, 02:44 PM
So would you be so kind as to post those policies that caused the crash of 2008 and let us all know how they are tied to GWB you must remember we are only conservatives! We need your assistance. However we like to deal in facts and the real world so we are not likely to take your word for it!

So it would be of great benefit if you could link to something of substance. I will give you and example!

http://cw.ua.edu/2011/11/17/clint-carter-policies-true-reason-for-housing-bubble/

You see the reason for the recession was the collapse of the housing bubble, and the cause of that bubble was the policies of Carter and Clinton, they were not Republican in case you did not know that

Bullshit!

Here is Greenspan, admitting that he caused the great collapse!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html?_r=0

CASE DISMISSED!

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 02:58 PM
Bullshit!

Here is Greenspan, admitting that he caused the great collapse!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/business/economy/24panel.html?_r=0

CASE DISMISSED!

I actually I agree with you but the policies of Clinton and Carter actually forced this lending! That is the reform that they were trying to get!

Should have been able to ward off most of this but the Democrats needed the votes !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan

As far as getting rid of Greenspan, 4 presidents had a chance to do so, and all thought he was the man for the job

Chris
01-22-2014, 03:11 PM
I actually I agree with you but the policies of Clinton and Carter actually forced this lending! That is the reform that they were trying to get!

Should have been able to ward off most of this but the Democrats needed the votes !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan

As far as getting rid of Greenspan, 4 presidents had a chance to do so, and all thought he was the man for the job



Despite being a Randian, Greenspan did what Presidents and banksters wanted him to do.

patrickt
01-22-2014, 06:50 PM
So why would they vote for Rethugs who want to put them out on the street?

And its not as if Rethugs are immune to being unemployed.

Gotta love the deadbeats and their enablers. I don't know any Republicans who want them out on the street. We want them employed. I know, work is a bad word for liberals but there it is.

Mini Me
01-22-2014, 07:09 PM
Gotta love the deadbeats and their enablers. I don't know any Republicans who want them out on the street. We want them employed. I know, work is a bad word for liberals but there it is.

Now what do you think will happen to the 1.3 million who are cut off from unemployment, and possibly 5 million by the end of the year? Many may become homeless! Where are the jobs the Rethugs promised?

They were working before, now you say they are shiftless? Just fucking amazing!

Mainecoons
01-22-2014, 07:10 PM
Excuse me, genius, the Republicans aren't running things.

jillian
01-22-2014, 07:12 PM
Excuse me, genius, the Republicans aren't running things.

no. they're just obstructing everything.

so it's on them. *shrug*

MrJimmyDale
01-22-2014, 07:13 PM
Now what do you think will happen to the 1.3 million who are cut off from unemployment, and possibly 5 million by the end of the year? If the benefits were extended again I'll bet I can tell you what almost all of them would be doing at the end of the year.......Sitting at home still drawing a check.

Mini Me
01-22-2014, 07:14 PM
I actually I agree with you but the policies of Clinton and Carter actually forced this lending! That is the reform that they were trying to get!

Should have been able to ward off most of this but the Democrats needed the votes !

That's laughable! Clinton and Carter forced the lending? The bad loans were from 2001-2007, man! During Bush regime. There is no FORCED lending by banks. I know, I was a mortgage officer from 2000 to 2009. Why don't you blame it on James Madison? LMAO!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan

As far as getting rid of Greenspan, 4 presidents had a chance to do so, and all thought he was the man for the job

Mini Me
01-22-2014, 07:18 PM
If the benefits were extended again I'll bet I can tell you what almost all of them would be doing at the end of the year.......Sitting at home still drawing a check.

Well, that just proves my point that there are so few jobs!

And its better than them being homeless, that's for sure!

Where are all those jobs Rethuglicans promised?

MrJimmyDale
01-22-2014, 07:20 PM
Well, that just proves my point that there are so few jobs! And its better than them being homeless, that's for sure! Where are all those jobs Rethuglicans promised?I didn't say anything about there being too few jobs....I think if they had to work they would work.

jillian
01-22-2014, 07:23 PM
I didn't say anything about there being too few jobs....I think if they had to work they would work.

actually there are millions of jobs we can't fill because we don't have the skilled labor.

however, other than that, there are four applicants for every available job right now.

and the House's intentional sabotage of every advance the economy makes is inexcusable while they wish to cut off unemployment insurance.

keymanjim
01-22-2014, 07:28 PM
no. they're just obstructing everything.

so it's on them. *shrug*
There have been 50 jobs bills sent over to the senate that reid wont bring up for debate. Much less a vote.

And you still blame the republicans? That's a special level of STUPID you've reached.

zelmo1234
01-22-2014, 08:24 PM
Now what do you think will happen to the 1.3 million who are cut off from unemployment, and possibly 5 million by the end of the year? Many may become homeless! Where are the jobs the Rethugs promised?

They were working before, now you say they are shiftless? Just fucking amazing!

The average person finds a job within 2 weeks of when they loose there benefits HOWEVER when did we do away with the welfare program in the USA? do we not have those anymore?

And maybe we should think about some policies that will actually create jobs, wouldn't that be great!