House Passes Bill Outlawing Protests at Any Event Involving Secret Service

[Conley]

The House of Representatives approved a bill on Monday that outlaws protests in instances where some government officials are nearby, whether or not you even know it.

The US House of Representatives voted 388-to-3 in favor of H.R. 347 late Monday, a bill which is being dubbed the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011.

The new legislation allows prosecutors to charge anyone who enters a building without permission or with the intent to disrupt a government function with a federal offense if Secret Service is on the scene, but the law stretches to include not just the president’s palatial Pennsylvania Avenue home. Under the law, any building or grounds where the president is visiting — even temporarily — is covered, as is any building or grounds “restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance."

It’s not just the president who would be spared from protesters, either.

Covered under the bill is any person protected by the Secret Service. Although such protection isn’t extended to just everybody, making it a federal offense to even accidentally disrupt an event attended by a person with such status essentially crushes whatever currently remains of the right to assemble and peacefully protest.

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/02/houses-passes-new-bill-that-would-make.html

If this gets signed into law it needs to be struct down by SCOTUS. Keep an eye on it.

[MMC]

:wtf20:.....:cussing:Who the hell do these guys think they are. People best be on top of this already. I think no matter what anyones politics are. This affects all. This needs to be stuffed down their throats and people best start using the media to bust these pols chops on this. Including these Presidential Candidates. Obama best be questioned on this as well. SOB! :riot:

We have a Piece of Paper that Say otherwise! :rulez:

[Conley]

Agreed...this gives coverage to everyone from Obama to Newt to Santorum. It's crap. I guess only three people in the House have heard of the First Amendment.

[MMC]

Wheres Bruce.....he best be on this shit, with Anonymous. That sting covered S. America and Europa. Not here in the US. That brutha best get to posting up his piece on this. H.R 347.....get that out to everybody!

We need to confront media personalities with this shit and ask them why they are ducking it. I swear I am getting on the Phone.....Today, with Medved about this shit. I don't care if I have to leave emails with Townhall, Fox, and CNN. I will also hit some reporters or journalists with the Trib. This is ridiculous! :angry:

These Aristos will NOT set up a Police State to just to protect their azzes. Screw that. Vets and Military peeps took an Oath. Unlike Politicans and Judges and Civil Servants. Ours Never Ends!!!!! :brave:

[jgreer]

This is why even if u don't support ows u should support the right to protest

A lot of cons made fun of ows but now we are seeing the rights of anyone to protest be lost, tea party ows you name it

[Mister D]

The Man got to Bruce. :shocked:

[Conley]

I am going to go check his website and see if he's still posting. IronBoltBruce.com I think. Hmm...last post from the 25th. Not sure...

[Mainecoons]

OWS has every right to protest. They have no right to take over public property and turn it into a pig pen for months on end. The Tea Party has shown how to constructively protest. OWS should have learned from it. But if there's one thing one can notice about OWS and its participants, they are indeed a badly educated, ill mannered bunch of ignoramuses. Which is what makes them so ripe for being manipulated by the likes of Soros and the unions, who have put a lot of money into OWS.

The U.S. is turning into a police state. This is where progressivism always ends up. At the core, it is all about control of thought and action in order to achieve the nirvana that liberals believe is but a few more government programs away. In reality, as the "Great Society" shows, liberal/progressive ideas actually degrade society and destroy rights and prosperity.

I am 67 years old. I came of age in the late 50's. At that time, all government at all levels and all kinds includiing the military did quite well on about 20 percent of the country's GNP. America truly was a rising, prosperous nation during those times.

Since that time, I have watched as these two statist political parties have led the country into one foreign military misadventure after antoher, and into one failed social experiment after another. Three trillion dollars later of the "Great Society" there is more poverty than ever, the standard of living is collapsing and the economy is a hollowed out shell subsisting ever more poorly on "consumption" of mostly imported goods. Government is sucking up nearly half the nation's declining output when you include the huge mountain of debt being piled on daily. History shows us that when government becomes this intrusive, coercive and cancerously expensive, the end is not far beyond.

The unions suceeded admirably in killing most industrial jobs, so then they took over government. Today over half of the unionized work force works in government where they already had far better job protection, pay and benefits than the average Americans. The failing school system is largely under the thumb of the teacher's unions.

The number of government "workers" has risen twice as fast as population and they are in large part overpaid and underworked. From the town level right on up, everywhere you turn, this army of unaccountable bureaucrats are in your face and in your pocketbook. Private property and privacy in general is under sustained attack. The U.S. has fallen well from the top in terms of competitiveness and that is almost entirely because of the cost and burden of bloated government.

I do not believe that a peaceful revolution is possible at this point to restore limited, Constitutional government in America. It will take a train wreck and that train wreck is coming. Barack Obama will be re-elected and in just 4 short years, he will have the national debt up to the level of Greece. One morning, we will all wake up to find that there is no one else to borrow from and the resulting collapse will usher in an era of chaos, as it always does in history. I truly believe that Barack, Barry or whoever the hell that is in the White House, will be the last POTUS.

[Conley]

I do not believe that a peaceful revolution is possible at this point to restore limited, Constitutional government in America. It will take a train wreck and that train wreck is coming. Barack Obama will be re-elected and in just 4 short years, he will have the national debt up to the level of Greece. One morning, we will all wake up to find that there is no one else to borrow from and the resulting collapse will usher in an era of chaos, as it always does in history. I truly believe that Barack, Barry or whoever the hell that is in the White House, will be the last POTUS.

This is how I see the United States ending too. I don't think it will happen quite as soon as you, but it certainly seems like we are on that path.

As far as restoring a constitutional government, I think now we've moved past the point where it could happen electorally. It hung in the balance there for a while but we're past the tipping point IMO.

[Alias]

This is why even if u don't support ows u should support the right to protest

A lot of cons made fun of ows but now we are seeing the rights of anyone to protest be lost, tea party ows you name it

I don't think the "right to protest" is the same thing as moving in and trashing the joint, rapes, muggings, assaults, not to mention costing taxpayers millions for clean up, etc by the OWS. The Tea Party didn't cost taxpayers anything and left their protest sites clean. No comparison.

[MMC]

I agree with you whole heartedly Mainecoons.....well except that part about Obama being the last in the Office.

Both parties have sold out to the NWO. They will make sure all accepts the new form of Democracy. So that one day they believe it will bring us to that Federation of Planets. Deciding for all what is right and wrong. What is good for you and what is bad. Imposing Laws over all sorts of behaviours.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9pfxI1p3v8

In the mean time they won't stop until they have brought all down to The Mr. Wendal Status!!!!!

[Peter1469]

I can't imagine that SCOTUS will let this law stand..., but after Citizens United I wouldn't be surprised.

[MMC]

The US Senate had already passed the bill back on February 6th.

Less than two months ago, the president approved the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, essentially suspending habeas corpus from American citizens. Could the next order out of the Executive Branch be revoking some of the Bill of Rights?

[Conley]

The US Senate had already passed the bill back on February 6th.

Less than two months ago, the president approved the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, essentially suspending habeas corpus from American citizens. Could the next order out of the Executive Branch be revoking some of the Bill of Rights?

You sure? I thought if it was 'held at desk' for this long it was a pocket veto.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:SN01794:

[MMC]

Actually passed the Senate on Feb 5th, Next stop Obama's Desk! :angry:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h347/show

[Conley]

You're right. :angry: Why wasn't this ever reported in the news?!

[MMC]

I dunno.....but I am going to find out!

[wingrider]

You're right. :angry: Why wasn't this ever reported in the news?!

because the news is complicit? just a guess

[MMC]

I guess thats a mild way to put it. :wink:

[ironboltbruce]

Outlawing the Occupy Movement: H.R. 347 Makes Free Speech A Felony:

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/2190-Outlawing-the-Occupy-Movement-H-R-347-Makes-Free-Speech-A-Felony

[MMC]

Justin Amash (R), Paul Broun (R), and Keith Ellison (D), and the other 42 representatives (including Paul, did not vote)

Althought Paul voted NO the very first time they brang it up.....I knew we could count on him to stand on the Constitution. Can any say Paul is not a Patriot?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-149

[MMC]

Stuart, Fl -- On Saturday at a little after 4pm Stuart Police say they responded to a report of a car that crashed into Congressman Thomas Rooney's district office at 171 SW Flagler Ave in downtown Stuart.


Read more: http://www.cbs12.com/articles/headquarters-4738928-stuart-hectic.html#ixzz1nzuKKlvT


That happened on the 19th.....This is the Rep. Who Sponsored the bill with his Democrat-co sponsor,Ted Duetsch, both are from Florida!

[Conley]

Well it was nice of him to drive through the doors and not through the wall :laugh:

http://images.onset.freedom.com/wpec/gallery/lzni8u-lzni1yrooney1.jpg

[MMC]

Well.....he was parking the car and then all of a sudden I don't know what happened. Somehow my foot came off the brake.

[Mister D]

Ripped my side view mirror off the car last week coming out of the garage. Fuck it. I Krazy glued it back on. Youcan't even tell unless you examine my car.

[Conley]

I'm just waiting for that to happen at our place. Can't believe it hasn't yet. Of course now that I write this it's coming...

[Mister D]

It happened because I was careless. It was early and I was in a rush. Boom. No more mirror. I stopped at Walmart and got some glue on my way to work. Like I said, you can't even tell unless you examine it. It may be an issue when it gets hot but I'll worry about that them. My bud said Gorilla Glue is my best bet.

That said, I'm very happy with the garage. Keeping your car out of the elements all night makes a significant difference.

[Peter1469]

Except for the mirror thing....

[MMC]

What I am trying to understand is why some Conservative out of Florida would even submit this bill. Knowing he would be going againt Republican Principles. Then after he gets the bill up and going. That this Dem comes in from Fla and then Co sponsors.

How could they not know that this tramples the first amendment? Which IMO it sure seems to show some of these so called conservatives. Tend to support that liberal mindset.

[Conley]

I saw an ad on TV for a car that mirrors that would flatten at the push of a button, seemed a little silly.

[Conley]

What I am trying to understand is why some Conservative out of Florida would even submit this bill. Knowing he would be going againt Republican Principles. Then after he gets the bill up and going. That this Dem comes in from Fla and then Co sponsors.

How could they not know that this tramples the first amendment? Which IMO it sure seems to show some of these so called conservatives. Tend to support that liberal mindset.

How do you know the guy from Florida is conservative? The politicians have shown they don't care about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or anything else.

[MMC]

How do you know the guy from Florida is conservative? The politicians have shown they don't care about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or anything else.

Thats what he says on his site.....

[Conley]

Thats what he says on his site.....

Ah ok, well I wouldn't take his word for it.

[MMC]

Tom Rooney was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and raised in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Palm_Beach_Gardens,_Florida). He graduated from the Benjamin School in North Palm Beach, Florida (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/North_Palm_Beach,_Florida) in 1989. In college, Rooney played football for Syracuse University (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Syracuse_University) and Washington & Jefferson College (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Washington_%26_Jefferson_College) outside of Pittsburgh (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Pittsburgh) where he earned his B.A. (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Bachelor_of_Arts) in English Literature (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/English_Literature). He was a member of Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Lambda_Chi_Alpha).
Rooney attended the University of Florida (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/University_of_Florida) where he received his M.A. (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Master_of_Arts_(postgraduate)) in Political Science (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Political_science). After that he went to the University of Miami (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/University_of_Miami) School of Law (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/University_of_Miami_School_of_Law) where he received his J.D. (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Juris_Doctor) and met his wife Tara Lombardi.

Rooney spent over four years on Active Duty in the United States Army JAG Corps (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Judge_Advocate_General's_Corps_(United_States_Army )). Most notably, he served as Special Assistant U.S Attorney at Fort Hood, Texas (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Fort_Hood,_Texas), prosecuting all civilian crimes on post. Rooney also served in the famed 1st Cavalry Division.
In 2002, Rooney began teaching Constitutional and Criminal Law at the United States Military Academy (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/United_States_Military_Academy) at West Point, New York. He received two Army Commendation Medals (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Army_Commendation_Medal) for his service.

Before Rooney attained his Master's Degree, he worked for U.S. Senator Connie Mack III (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Connie_Mack_III).

Governor Jeb Bush (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Jeb_Bush) appointed Rooney to the Children’s Services Council of Palm Beach County Board of Directors in January 2006.....snip~

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Rooney_(politician)

Unbelievable.....he was a Constitutional Attorney and he Taught at West Point. He is also related to the owners of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He also Married a Woman named Tara Lombardi.

[Stoney]

I agree that we need to have the ability to protest and that protesters should not be immune from costs incurred as a result of their protest.

[Conley]

Definitely charge them, and enforce the "no camping out" rule immediately, not indiscriminately and after a few weeks give or take. Like other issues, enforce the law consistently and equally and there shouldn't be a problem.

[MMC]

Then they should have to have it Posted up that there is Secret Service on the grounds. As it is worded that even if those didn't even know there was some event going on with a Pol, they could be arrested.

[Conley]

Tom Rooney was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania and raised in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Palm_Beach_Gardens,_Florida). He graduated from the Benjamin School in North Palm Beach, Florida (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/North_Palm_Beach,_Florida) in 1989. In college, Rooney played football for Syracuse University (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Syracuse_University) and Washington & Jefferson College (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Washington_%26_Jefferson_College) outside of Pittsburgh (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Pittsburgh) where he earned his B.A. (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Bachelor_of_Arts) in English Literature (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/English_Literature). He was a member of Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Lambda_Chi_Alpha).
Rooney attended the University of Florida (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/University_of_Florida) where he received his M.A. (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Master_of_Arts_(postgraduate)) in Political Science (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Political_science). After that he went to the University of Miami (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/University_of_Miami) School of Law (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/University_of_Miami_School_of_Law) where he received his J.D. (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Juris_Doctor) and met his wife Tara Lombardi.

Rooney spent over four years on Active Duty in the United States Army JAG Corps (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Judge_Advocate_General's_Corps_(United_States_Army )). Most notably, he served as Special Assistant U.S Attorney at Fort Hood, Texas (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Fort_Hood,_Texas), prosecuting all civilian crimes on post. Rooney also served in the famed 1st Cavalry Division.
In 2002, Rooney began teaching Constitutional and Criminal Law at the United States Military Academy (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/United_States_Military_Academy) at West Point, New York. He received two Army Commendation Medals (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Army_Commendation_Medal) for his service.

Before Rooney attained his Master's Degree, he worked for U.S. Senator Connie Mack III (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Connie_Mack_III).

Governor Jeb Bush (http://thepoliticalforums.com/wiki/Jeb_Bush) appointed Rooney to the Children’s Services Council of Palm Beach County Board of Directors in January 2006.....snip~

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Rooney_(politician)

Unbelievable.....he was a Constitutional Attorney and he Taught at West Point. He is also related to the owners of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He also Married a Woman named Tara Lombardi.

You're right, he of all people should know better!

[MMC]

You're right, he of all people should know better!

Moreover he was Vet with the Jag Corp.....wonder if Pete knows this guy?

[Peter1469]

No, it looks like we were both active duty JAGs at the same time but he was in the world of Armor and I was in Infantry land.

[MMC]

No, it looks like we were both active duty JAGs at the same time but he was in the world of Armor and I was in Infantry land.


What do you think about this guy pushing this Pete?

[MMC]

Heya Pete Btw.....when you came home did you happen to In-process thru Fort Dix?

[Peter1469]

What do you think about this guy pushing this Pete?
Typical establishment repub. Just as much a statist as the dems. That is why I left the GOP.

[Peter1469]

Heya Pete Btw.....when you came home did you happen to In-process thru Fort Dix?

No. Fort Bragg.

[Mister D]

Fort Dix is where I go shooting. They have a cool range and the people who work there are pretty cool.