Family, churches and charities are supposed to help the poor -- not the government

[Blackrook]

Family, churches and charities are supposed to help the poor -- not the government.

Government is incompetent at everything it attempts to do.

The United States Post Office has a monopoly on delivering mail, and yet loses billions of dollars a year.

The military pays $800 for a toilet seat.

Public schools yearly graduate millions of high school seniors who lack basic reading, writing and mathematics skills.

It takes hours and hours to get service at the DMV.

Social Security is a ponzi scheme that is rapidly running out of money.

VA hospitals are notorious for horrible service and bad medicine.

So why do we think government should be in the charity business?

Government intervention in the charity business has created a huge underclass of permanently poor people, people who stay poor deliberately so they won't lose their government check.

We now have 93 million American adults not in the labor force and most of them are getting some sort of government assistance.

The funny thing is, conservatives have been making this argument for decades, and liberals never listen.

Leading me to the conclusion that liberals like things the way they are. They want people to be poor, dependent on government, and without any hope of improving their lot in life.

[Germanicus]

The State should ban all charity.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/wilde-oscar/soul-man/

It creates a multitude of sins.


The emotions of man are stirred more quickly than man’s intelligence; and, as I pointed out some time ago in an article on the function of criticism, it is much more easy to have sympathy with suffering than it is to have sympathy with thought. Accordingly, with admirable, though misdirected intentions, they very seriously and very sentimentally set themselves to the task of remedying the evils that they see. But their remedies do not cure the disease: they merely prolong it. Indeed, their remedies are part of the disease. They try to solve the problem of poverty, for instance, by keeping the poor alive; or, in the case of a very advanced school, by amusing the poor.
But this is not a solution: it is an aggravation of the difficulty. The proper aim is to try and reconstruct society on such a basis that poverty will be impossible. And the altruistic virtues have really prevented the carrying out of this aim. Just as the worst slave-owners were those who were kind to their slaves, and so prevented the horror of the system being realised by those who suffered from it, and understood by those who contemplated it,

Ban religion too.

Religion is a parasite on the state and would no longer exist without the state. In Australia the churches are in on heaps of government schemes and when will they pay tax?!

The church is a moocher and leach. The state should ban relgion or at least religious parties for a start. Politics must work on reason not fanatical religion.

And charity is a capitalistic idea. It should be banned. It prevents solutions.

[zelmo1234]

The State should ban all charity.

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/wilde-oscar/soul-man/

It creates a multitude of sins.



Ban religion too.

Religion is a parasite on the state and would no longer exist without the state. In Australia the churches are in on heaps of government schemes and when will they pay tax?!

The church is a moocher and leach. The state should ban relgion or at least religious parties for a start. Politics must work on reason not fanatical religion.

And charity is a capitalistic idea. It should be banned. It prevents solutions.

Germ gets the communist cookie award of the day!

But the ban them Germ so that the people won't have anything to rally around when the state becomes a total tyranny upon the people, Not because they are not effective!

You have to understand that you are a useful idiot at this point but after the state has moved to confiscate the assets of the wealthy, then you are one of the non producers that must be purged from the system and they don't want you to have anywhere that you might be able to get food when they starve you to death!

[patrickt]

Ah, yes, nostalgia. I can remember when the government was to serve the people and not, as it is now, the other way around with the people existing to serve the government.

[jillian]

Family, churches and charities are supposed to help the poor -- not the government.

Government is incompetent at everything it attempts to do.




if family, churches and charity wee supposed to do the job, why hasn't it been?

and you keep repeating the right wing talking points. maybe they'll become true if you say them often enough.

[zelmo1234]

if family, churches and charity wee supposed to do the job, why hasn't it been?

I was not aware that they are not. They rum most of the homeless shelters and soup kitchens, They really are doing great work! Now if the government would stop trying to make people dependent on the system, maybe they would not have so much work to do!

[donttread]

Family, churches and charities are supposed to help the poor -- not the government.

Government is incompetent at everything it attempts to do.

The United States Post Office has a monopoly on delivering mail, and yet loses billions of dollars a year.


There is nothing unconstitutional about social programs as long as they are not run or influenced at the federal level. States can and should operate hand up programs

The military pays $800 for a toilet seat.

Public schools yearly graduate millions of high school seniors who lack basic reading, writing and mathematics skills.

It takes hours and hours to get service at the DMV.

Social Security is a ponzi scheme that is rapidly running out of money.

VA hospitals are notorious for horrible service and bad medicine.

So why do we think government should be in the charity business?

Government intervention in the charity business has created a huge underclass of permanently poor people, people who stay poor deliberately so they won't lose their government check.

We now have 93 million American adults not in the labor force and most of them are getting some sort of government assistance.

The funny thing is, conservatives have been making this argument for decades, and liberals never listen.

Leading me to the conclusion that liberals like things the way they are. They want people to be poor, dependent on government, and without any hope of improving their lot in life.