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truthmatters
01-28-2014, 08:16 AM
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/news/la-pn-supreme-court-rnc-voter-fraud-20130114\



Supreme Court denies RNC bid to end voter fraud consent decree
January 14, 2013 (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14)

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 08:22 AM
This case was loser for the RNC even before SCOTUS refused to see it. Targeting racial and ethnic minorities just makes the RNC look racist. Not the image they need to project.


The Supreme Court has refused to lift a 30-year consent decree that bars the Republican National Committee from targeting racial and ethnic minorities in its efforts to end fraudulent voting.

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 08:25 AM
cheating voters out of their votes is the only way they can win

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 08:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw


this is the founder of the heritage foundation


It was his idea


the republican party did his bidding


they knew even all those years ago the demographics would kill their chances

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 08:32 AM
cheating voters out of their votes is the only way they can win

Disagreed, but it is definitely taking the low road when seeking to disenfranchise American citizens.

Pursuing such actions will only blow up in their faces as it did in Florida before the 2012 election.

http://blog.workingamerica.org/2012/05/29/yet-another-veteran-disenfranchised-by-gop-war-on-voting-rights/

Three weeks ago, Bill Internicola received a letter from his home county, Florida’s Broward County. “The Broward County Supervisor of Elections’ Office has received information from the State of Florida that you are not a United States citizen,” it read, and went on to say that he was ineligible to vote unless he responded with proof of citizenship.

Not only is Bill Internicola a United States citizen, he is a veteran of World War II and a Bronze Star recipient who has been voting in Florida for 14 years.


Bill was one of 182,000 Floridians caught in Gov. Rick Scott’s purge of the state voter rolls, allegedly an attempt to get non-citizens off of voter lists before the 2012 election. If we took Gov. Scott at his word, it would be at the very least a sloppy, poorly executed, costly plan, so ridiculous that Florida Secretary of State Kurt Browning resigned in its wake.


The state attempted to identify non-U.S. citizens by comparing the voting file with data from the state motor vehicle administration, but the motor vehicle data does not contain updated citizenship information. The process, which created a list of 182,000 people, was considered so flawed by Browning that he refused to release the data to county election officials. Browning resigned in February and Scott has pressed forward with the purge, starting with about 2600 voters.


Let’s repeat: this plan to purge the voter rolls didn’t use up-to-date data, and was so bad that the official in charge didn’t want to talk about it and ended up resigning. Let’s also repeat that Gov. Scott continued the process anyway.


We do not take Rick Scott at his word that this is simply about removing non-citizens from voter rolls. This is about keeping as many Hispanics, people of color, seniors, and young people from voting as possible; just another part of the coordinated, nationwide attack on voting rights perpetrated by radical governors and right-wing legislators across the country.


The Miami Herald reported that in this haphazard list of 182,000 voters is roughly 58 percent Hispanic, even though Hispanics make up just 13 percent of Florida voters. In addition, 40 percent of the voters on list of “potential non-citizens” are Democrats.


It’s common knowledge that Florida has a spotty history with voting rights and election accuracy. Nearly 7,000 people were wrongfully removed from Florida’s voter rolls in the run up to the 2000 election, which George W. Bush won by 537 votes.


But the idea of veterans who have risked their lives for their right to vote being disenfranchised might be shocking enough to shed light on the messy, chaotic, blatantly politically-driven process that will shape Florida’s 2012 electorate.


“When someone who put their life on the line to protect the right to vote from fascists and empires is denied the right to vote, and is purged from voting rolls, there is something horribly, horribly wrong.” said Jon Soltz, Iraq War Veteran and Chairman of VoteVets.org, “Anyone who would stand behind an action that threatens the right to vote of a WWII vet is someone I would call un-American.”


As an American veteran disenfranchised by new GOP-led corporate-backed voter suppression tactics, Bill Internicola joins Gil Paar, a Racine, Wisconsin Air Force veteran who could not use his VA card as voter ID (featured in the video below). He also joins 40-year Aurora, Ohio resident and World War II veteran Paul Carroll, kept from casting a ballot for the same reason, who said “I went to war for this country, but now I can’t vote in this country.”

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 08:32 AM
the courts forced them into that consent decree in like 1981.


while being punished and watched they did this in 1986.



http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-25/news/mn-7435_1_republican-national-committee



GOP Memo Admits Plan Could 'Keep Black Vote Down'
October 25, 1986 (http://articles.latimes.com/1986/oct/25)

Captain Obvious
01-28-2014, 08:34 AM
truthmatters back in da house, woo hoo...

http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/shitstorm.jpg

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 08:35 AM
It sure is funny that that LIBEAL press they always lie about us having doesn't make sure all these FACTS are common knowledge

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 08:41 AM
The document, called Exhibit 13, was unsealed by U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise when lawyers for the Democratic National Committee said it was needed to question Wolfe.
Wolfe testified that she wrote about the possibility of keeping the black vote down to remind Griffith that there "might be a political situation he might want to consider. . . . I wanted him to be aware of the political considerations."
The Democrats are suing the Republican Party for $10 million, charging that the Republican National Committee ballot security programs--a method of assuring that voters reside at their listed addresses--violated a 1981 consent agreement signed by both parties.
Under the agreement, the Republican committee would "refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial composition of such districts is a factor."




http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-25/news/mn-7435_1_republican-national-committee

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 08:43 AM
right from the very top officials of the republican party under REAGAN

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 08:43 AM
Reagan cheated in elections

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 08:52 AM
the SCOTUS agrees

Captain Obvious
01-28-2014, 09:10 AM
Pinish?

That a Persian pastry or something?

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 09:11 AM
does that typo change the SCOTUS decision?

Captain Obvious
01-28-2014, 09:14 AM
does that typo change the SCOTUS decision?

No, but it made me at least marginally interested in the thread.

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 09:15 AM
see my friends they don't care their party has to CHEAT to win elections

Captain Obvious
01-28-2014, 09:16 AM
see my friends they don't care their party has to CHEAT to win elections

Not my party.

You need to get out more.

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 09:16 AM
does that typo change the SCOTUS decision?

Regardless of your typo, SCOTUS didn't make a ruling. They simply denied an appeal. This isn't pinishing the Republicans. It's simply denying their appeal to target minorities in voters.

Why do you think the Republicans should be able to target minorities? If the problem is voter fraud, why is fraud by a black or Hispanic voter worse than that of a white voter? Shouldn't any rules apply to all?

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 09:18 AM
They denied the republican appeal

that means they said keep punishing the republican party

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 09:18 AM
they agreed they needed to be PUNISHED for kicking legal voters off the lists you fool

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 09:32 AM
they agreed they needed to be PUNISHED for kicking legal voters off the lists you fool

Who are you calling a fool?

Well, I completely agree that anyone who disenfranchises legal voters should be pinished. Pinished to the full extent of the law, dammit!

jillian
01-28-2014, 09:46 AM
This case was loser for the RNC even before SCOTUS refused to see it. Targeting racial and ethnic minorities just makes the RNC look racist. Not the image they need to project.

they've been doing the southern strategy since the '70's. why would they stop projecting that image.

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 09:47 AM
he wont even admit punishment is what the SCOTUS decided here by leaving a lower courts decision standing

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 09:49 AM
They just defend the cheating at every turn.

what do you think the Americans voters would think about the republican party having such a criminal record for so many decades?


why doesn't the "liberal" media they claim report on this non stop?

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 10:01 AM
Regardless of your typo, SCOTUS didn't make a ruling. They simply denied an appeal. This isn't pinishing the Republicans. It's simply denying their appeal to target minorities in voters.

Why do you think the Republicans should be able to target minorities? If the problem is voter fraud, why is fraud by a black or Hispanic voter worse than that of a white voter? Shouldn't any rules apply to all?





why are you pretending this case is NOT completely clear that the republican party has CHEATED in elections for decades?

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 10:02 AM
they've been doing the southern strategy since the '70's. why would they stop projecting that image.

Because one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.

The "Republican Autopsy" aka Growth and Opportunity Project pointed this out.

http://growthopp.gop.com/RNC_Growth_Opportunity_Book_2013.pdf

It is imperative that the RNC changes how it engages with Hispanic communities to welcome in new members of our Party.

If Hispanic Americans hear that the GOP doesn’t want them in the United States, they won’t pay
attention to our next sentence. It doesn’t matter what we say about education, jobs or the economy;
if Hispanics think that we do not want them here, they will close their ears to our policies. In essence,
Hispanic voters tell us our Party’s position on immigration has become a litmus test, measuring
whether we are meeting them with a welcome mat or a closed door.

Throughout our discussions with various Hispanic groups, they told us this: Message matters.

Similar to the approach it must take with other demographic communities, the RNC must embark on a year-round effort to engage with African American voters. The engagement must include not only
persuasion based upon our Party’s principles but also a presence within community organizations.
There are numerous outside groups that are studying the best way for the Republican Party to better
reach African American voters. The Republican Party should leverage the best practices identified by
such organizations. Investing time and resources in African American communities by leveraging
best practices of organizations like the Texas Federation for Republican Outreach (an affiliate of the
Republican Party of Texas) is essential.

The African American community has a lot in common with the Republican Party, and it is
important to share this rich history. More importantly, the Republican Party must be committed
to building a lasting relationship within the African American community year-round, based on
mutual respect and with a spirit of caring.

The Party must also engage with each of its demographic partners and allies individually.

Hispanics and Asians are not the only demographic groups emotionally invested in immigration
issues. Caribbean, Jamaican, and Haitian immigrants, as well as many other black minority
groups, have a vested interest in immigration policy because it affects them and their families.

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 10:05 AM
they have to keep going with the lies and cheating.

it what their wealthy owners want

Captain Obvious
01-28-2014, 10:09 AM
I still want to know what pinish is.

Sounds tasty.

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 10:10 AM
no you don't that is just a lie like the majority of your posts

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 10:10 AM
see how seriously they care that they have to cheat to win elections?


they are the enemies of this country

Captain Obvious
01-28-2014, 10:10 AM
no you don't that is just a lie like the majority of your posts

You're right!



(see what I did there)

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 10:11 AM
Im a Dem not a right winger

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 10:14 AM
I still want to know what pinish is.

Sounds tasty.

It's better with Mango Salsa and a Corona.

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 10:16 AM
Im a Dem not a right winger
Seriously?! Who knew! http://www.emotiyou.com/galerie/films/comedie/maman-rate-avion//200910142209ERD.gif

Codename Section
01-28-2014, 10:17 AM
they agreed they needed to be PUNISHED for kicking legal voters off the lists you fool

Ease up, homie, on the insults.

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 10:18 AM
why are you on the right here trying so hard to minimize the facts here?


You don't want the people to know your little cheating secrets huh?

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 10:19 AM
Ease up, homie, on the insults.

but its ok for a poster to talk about sticking their dick in me?

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 01:09 PM
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/news/la-pn-supreme-court-rnc-voter-fraud-20130114\



Supreme Court denies RNC bid to end voter fraud consent decree


January 14, 2013 (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14)

the SCOTUS said let the lower court decisions stand

Captain Obvious
01-28-2014, 01:20 PM
but its ok for a poster to talk about sticking their dick in me?

On the contrary, the comment was "never stick your dick into crazy"

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 01:37 PM
On the contrary, the comment was "never stick your dick into crazy"

Which is advice that is sounding more reasonable every post.

Still, I've dated a few women who turned out to be on a different plane of existence than most people I know. All it did was make me look for the nearest exit.

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truthmatters
01-28-2014, 02:05 PM
On the contrary, the comment was "never stick your dick into crazy"


and you were discussing me.

don't talk about raping me anymore

truthmatters
01-28-2014, 02:18 PM
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/news/la-pn-supreme-court-rnc-voter-fraud-20130114\



Supreme Court denies RNC bid to end voter fraud consent decree


January 14, 2013 (http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14)

talk about what the thread is about

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 03:00 PM
and you were discussing me.

don't talk about raping me anymore

The only one talking about rape was you, TM.

Captain Obvious
01-28-2014, 03:09 PM
The only one talking about rape was you, TM.

Might be a fantasy of hers maybe.

Not sure where she's getting this idea though.

Mainecoons
01-28-2014, 05:22 PM
From the voices in her head?

:grin:

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 08:29 PM
Might be a fantasy of hers maybe.

Not sure where she's getting this idea though.

Me neither, but it's a curiosity. I'm a relative newbie here, but obviously she has been very active here in the past. I'm still learning about all the players. I'll review her past posts to obtain a better understanding of her mindset.

Max Rockatansky
01-28-2014, 08:45 PM
truthmatters I noticed you took a long hiatus, since last June, before returning today. Care to share why? Obviously you were very active for awhile, but to disappear for six months then return is a curious mystery.

Agravan
01-28-2014, 09:20 PM
Yay

Agravan
01-28-2014, 09:20 PM
truthmatters

Agravan
01-28-2014, 09:20 PM
is back

Agravan
01-28-2014, 09:21 PM
with her

Agravan
01-28-2014, 09:21 PM
multiple

Agravan
01-28-2014, 09:21 PM
posting

Agravan
01-28-2014, 09:21 PM
style

zelmo1234
01-29-2014, 03:39 AM
they agreed they needed to be PUNISHED for kicking legal voters off the lists you fool

Well with Truth back???? THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO MODS HOW LONG WILL YOU LET THIS FUCK STICK POST THIS FLAME BAITING SHIT

my guess is a long time because of the liberal nature of it!

WARNING IT IS ABOUT TI GET REALLY UGLY UP IN HERE!

Max Rockatansky
01-29-2014, 06:01 AM
Well with Truth back???? THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO MODS HOW LONG WILL YOU LET THIS FUCK STICK POST THIS FLAME BAITING SHIT

my guess is a long time because of the liberal nature of it!

WARNING IT IS ABOUT TI GET REALLY UGLY UP IN HERE!

Relax, Z. I've dated my fair share of crazy chicks and they continue to fascinate me. Nothing to get worked up about.

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truthmatters
01-29-2014, 08:43 AM
@truthmatters (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=505) I noticed you took a long hiatus, since last June, before returning today. Care to share why? Obviously you were very active for awhile, but to disappear for six months then return is a curious mystery.

on word answer


FREEDOM


there are many chat sites on the internests that need a boost


I know how to boost this sites traffic if they will let me

truthmatters
01-29-2014, 08:43 AM
@truthmatters (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=505) back in da house, woo hoo...

http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/shitstorm.jpg






truthstorm

Chris
01-29-2014, 08:45 AM
on word answer


FREEDOM


there are many chat sites on the internests that need a boost


I know how to boost this sites traffic if they will let me


^^Anarchist. :grin:

Max Rockatansky
01-29-2014, 08:48 AM
truthstorm

Pinishing!!!


Pssst, TM! You can ask the mods to fix the title. Just "report" your OP post with the request.

Max Rockatansky
01-29-2014, 08:52 AM
on word answer


FREEDOM


there are many chat sites on the internests that need a boost


I know how to boost this sites traffic if they will let meFreedom is a good thing. I fully support it. I'm simply curious why you elected to return. A virtual Pinot Noir or other beverage of choice to you if you come clean.

There are lots of reasons why people move to different forums. A common one is being banned from their previous one. Another is simple boredom or disgust with their previous one. What was your reason, truthmatters ?

Codename Section
01-29-2014, 08:58 AM
Well with Truth back???? THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO MODS HOW LONG WILL YOU LET THIS FUCK STICK POST THIS FLAME BAITING SHIT

my guess is a long time because of the liberal nature of it!

WARNING IT IS ABOUT TI GET REALLY UGLY UP IN HERE!
zelmo1234

sometimes mods overlook shit like fuck sticks because they don't see them. It's not always a liberal or conservative thing more of a hella lot of posts thing. :cool2:

Since I responded to you I can't moderate this thread. Someone else would have to turn you in or moderate you.

truthmatters
01-29-2014, 08:59 AM
some sites actually let people discuss even when they don't agree with every poster

SOME

Codename Section
01-29-2014, 09:00 AM
some sites actually let people discuss even when they don't agree with every poster

SOME

So try discussing.

truthmatters
01-29-2014, 09:02 AM
I have what you been doing ?

insulting me

Max Rockatansky
01-29-2014, 09:29 AM
I have what you been doing ?

The title of your OP wasn't backed up by the link. Being denied an appeal isn't "pinishing". j/k

Your second post seemed to be more interested in throwing gasoline on your own flamebait rather than being willing to discuss the issue.


cheating voters out of their votes is the only way they can win

Obviously Republicans have won plenty of elections without "cheating voters out of their votes". Do you have evidence to back up your accusation or is this just your opinion?