Fox News analyst tells Tea Party group he can lead a military coup against Obama

[Cigar]

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A retired Army general and Fox News analyst told a Tea Party group that he would lead a military coup against the U.S. government, if only reluctantly.

Paul Vallely, a retired major general and senior military analyst for the conservative news channel, told the Surprise, Arizona, Tea Party Patriots during a Dec. 3 speech that other retired military personnel and veterans groups had contacted him about the possibility.

“I had a call this afternoon from Idaho, the gentleman said, ‘If I give you 250,000 Marines to go to Washington, will you lead them?’” Vallely said as the group laughed and gasped. “I said, ‘Yes, I will, I’ll surround the White House and I’ll surround the Capitol building, but it’s going to take physical presence to do things.”


Vallely, who has suggested a variety of extra-constitutional remedies to remove President Barack Obama from office, said extraordinary means were necessary to achieve the legislative results he wanted.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/27/fox-news-analyst-tells-tea-party-group-he-can-lead-a-military-coup-against-obama/

Typical wingnut - Another crusty Old White Man who can't win an election, so they start fantasizing about overthrowing democracy and imposing fascism and military dictatorship because a Black Man keep kicking their ass.

Wake me up when the revolution starts ...

[Captain Obvious]

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[Polecat]

The revolution will not be televised.

[Chris]

Democracy, especially the social democracy we have, is a form of fascism.

[truthmatters]

these people are going to hurt Americans because they don't like democracy.

Its why they back cheating in elections

[Max Rockatansky]

Paul Vallely needs to be tested for drugs or mental illness.

[truthmatters]

You can bet he has been talked to already.


treason is a crime

[Libhater]

Typical wingnut - Another crusty Old White Man who can't win an election, so they start fantasizing about overthrowing democracy and imposing fascism and military dictatorship because a Black Man keep kicking their ass.

The irony in your post here is that what this patriotic general wants to do is to boot out the Constitution shredding facist who is currently destroying America and our freedoms by himself
implementing democracy in its place. Just curious, have you read about all of the military officers who have either retired, left out of disgust or were fired by Obama? Oh, and onbama is also reducing our military might on a daily basis to where even Russia is laughing at us now and has a leg up on us...militarily speaking. The revolution against this turkey is just starting to heat up. I imagine after this turkey's SOTU speech tonight where he says he's going around congress to perform his dictaorship role--that the revolution against this anti American will be kicked into full steam ahead mode.

[Cigar]

[I]

The irony in your post here is that what this patriotic general wants to do is to boot out the Constitution shredding facist who is currently destroying America and our freedoms by himself
implementing democracy in its place. Just curious, have you read about all of the military officers who have either retired, left out of disgust or were fired by Obama? Oh, and onbama is also reducing our military might on a daily basis to where even Russia is laughing at us now and has a leg up on us...militarily speaking.

Any idea when all the talk stops and the action starts ... :Skeert:

[truthmatters]

one problem is your lying about the constitution being harmed.

that makes it treason.

Lies don't fly in court

[Cigar]

You can bet he has been talked to already.


treason is a crime

:old: He's harmless

[Cigar]

one problem is your lying about the constitution being harmed.

that makes it treason.

Lies don't fly in court

Court ... you won't see then in Court .... that takes Balls and Proof ... both they never have.

[truthmatters]

They pretend courts didn't decide things already all the time.

they just ignore FACTS they don't like

[Max Rockatansky]

The irony in your post here is that what this patriotic general wants to do is to boot out the Constitution shredding facist who is currently destroying America and our freedoms by himself
implementing democracy in its place.

So you're joining them in the coup? Willing to literally put your neck on the line in an act easily seen as treason? I think not.

You strike me as more of someone who likes to wrap himself in the flag, but when it comes to actually taking a risk, you suddenly remember it's laundry day.

[truthmatters]

these lies the fox nation tells these fools is going to get Americans killed.

[Max Rockatansky]

these lies the fox nation tells these fools is going to get Americans killed.

Maybe, but I doubt it. Smart people know it's stupid and the nutjobs who actually believe this shit are either too cowardly to do it or can't get a weekend pass from their mental institution to participate.

[truthmatters]

they have guns and a hate of their fellow Americans and democracy.

they will kill people

mark my words

[truthmatters]

They will go all Tim McVeigh on us

[Cigar]

they have guns and a hate of their fellow Americans and democracy.

they will kill people

mark my words

It's 2014 ... Everyone has Guns now ... so now people can shoot back :wink:

[Max Rockatansky]

they have guns and a hate of their fellow Americans and democracy.

they will kill people

mark my words

So we kill them back and life goes on. I fail to see the problem. Like I said, this is primarily rhetoric. Hot air. Bullshit. If a few of these nutjobs decide to stage a domestic terrorist attack on Washington DC or blow up a Federal building next to day care center, any survivors will be captured, tried and executed.

[bladimz]

I have to agree. It's a Fox analyst giving a local TP group what they want to hear in a speech. (i'd like to see what he was paid for that speech).

Maybe he was serious, but i bet he woke up the next morning and just smiled and counted his money.

[Ivan88]

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/27/fox-news-analyst-tells-tea-party-group-he-can-lead-a-military-coup-against-obama/

Typical wingnut - .... so they start fantasizing about overthrowing democracy....

Wake me up when the revolution starts ...

So many people still believe that democracy is a virtue. Amazing.
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[Libhater]

So you're joining them in the coup? Willing to literally put your neck on the line in an act easily seen as treason? I think not.

You strike me as more of someone who likes to wrap himself in the flag, but when it comes to actually taking a risk, you suddenly remember it's laundry day.

Any and all acts of treason have been brought on by this current anti American potus. There are many people currently working to impeach this traitor-in-chief

before America becomes nothing more than a third world nation.

[BB-35]

they have guns and a hate of their fellow Americans and democracy.

they will kill people

mark my words

Good thing we aren't a democracy then....

[jillian]

Democracy, especially the social democracy we have, is a form of fascism.

no.

but nice hyperbole

[Chris]

no.

but nice hyperbole

yes.

but nice nonargument

The centrally planned crony corporatism of social democracy certainly is fascist in nature.

[nic34]

When The Bankers Plotted To Overthrow FDR

Critics on the right worried that Roosevelt was a Communist, a socialist or the tool of a Jewish conspiracy. Critics on the left complained his policies didn't go far enough. Some of Roosevelt's opponents didn't stop at talk.
Though it's barely remembered today, there was a genuine conspiracy to overthrow the president.

The Wall Street Putsch, as it's known today, was a plot by a group of right-wing financiers.

"They thought that they could convince Roosevelt, because he was of their, the patrician class, they thought that they could convince Roosevelt to relinquish power to basically a fascist, military-type government," Denton says.
"It was a cockamamie concept," she adds, "and the fact that it even got as far as it did is pretty shocking."

The conspirators had several million dollars, a stockpile of weapons and had even reached out to a retired Marine general, Smedley Darlington Butler, to lead their forces.

"Had he been a different kind of person, it might have gone a lot further," Denton says. "But he saw it as treason and he reported it to Congress."

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/12/145472726/when-the-bankers-plotted-to-overthrow-fdr


Remember, it was the fascists that tried to overthrow the government.

[Chris]

When The Bankers Plotted To Overthrow FDR

Critics on the right worried that Roosevelt was a Communist, a socialist or the tool of a Jewish conspiracy. Critics on the left complained his policies didn't go far enough. Some of Roosevelt's opponents didn't stop at talk.
Though it's barely remembered today, there was a genuine conspiracy to overthrow the president.

The Wall Street Putsch, as it's known today, was a plot by a group of right-wing financiers.

"They thought that they could convince Roosevelt, because he was of their, the patrician class, they thought that they could convince Roosevelt to relinquish power to basically a fascist, military-type government," Denton says.
"It was a cockamamie concept," she adds, "and the fact that it even got as far as it did is pretty shocking."

The conspirators had several million dollars, a stockpile of weapons and had even reached out to a retired Marine general, Smedley Darlington Butler, to lead their forces.

"Had he been a different kind of person, it might have gone a lot further," Denton says. "But he saw it as treason and he reported it to Congress."

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/12/145472726/when-the-bankers-plotted-to-overthrow-fdr


Remember, it was the fascists that tried to overthrow the government.



Remember it was the fascists who succeeded.

Did the bankers succeed? No, FDR was too powerful as the head of an already centrally planned crony corporatism of social democracy, and already "fascist, military-type government".

[Adelaide]

I have to agree. It's a Fox analyst giving a local TP group what they want to hear in a speech. (i'd like to see what he was paid for that speech).

Maybe he was serious, but i bet he woke up the next morning and just smiled and counted his money.

Yeah, pretty much. Maybe he'll get a book deal or radio show or something to spout his craziness.

[Max Rockatansky]

I have to agree. It's a Fox analyst giving a local TP group what they want to hear in a speech. (i'd like to see what he was paid for that speech).

Maybe he was serious, but i bet he woke up the next morning and just smiled and counted his money.

Agreed. Unfortunately, most "media" are just infotainment channels. It's all about the money. Fox caters to the Tea Party and far Right Wing, MSNBC caters to the far left. Smart people recognize it for what it is and give it the credit it's due. :)

[Max Rockatansky]

Any and all acts of treason have been brought on by this current anti American potus. There are many people currently working to impeach this traitor-in-chief

before America becomes nothing more than a third world nation.

When you finally get your name in the papers, be sure to let everyone on this forum know.

[Max Rockatansky]

So many people still believe that democracy is a virtue. Amazing.
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It's true. The maxim about Democracy being two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. That's why we're a CONSTITUTIONAL democracy*.


*technically a Constitutional Federal Republic for the purist/OCD weenies.

[Mainecoons]

Not any more. That is why the corporatist wolves and the entitlement wolves are eating the working lambs.

[Max Rockatansky]

Not any more. That is why the corporatist wolves and the entitlement wolves are eating the working lambs.

While I readily agree that's where they are headed, my friend, I do not agree we are there.

To win this fight, it's important to win the favor of those who are disgusted with both sides, those who want to do right, but don't have ideological blinders covering their eyes.

[Codename Section]

Not any more. That is why the corporatist wolves and the entitlement wolves are eating the working lambs.

Hell yeh. We have a useless economy a dollar that's garbage and they want to talk having the few working lambs pay for everything.

[jillian]

Hell yeh. We have a useless economy a dollar that's garbage and they want to talk having the few working lambs pay for everything.

a useless economy?

really? are you not making money?

a dollar that's garbage?

nice rhetoric… currency of choice for international transactions.

puleeze….

[Mainecoons]

On the way out, dear. You need to catch up. Or take off the blinders.

Actually, both.

[Agravan]

The revolutionary war was an act of treason against England...
I'm sure the English courts would have ruled against the Colonials.

[Mainecoons]

Ironically, the British crown wasn't nearly as oppressive towards the colonies as "our" Federal government is towards us these days.

How quickly we forget.

[Agravan]

The thing is, the same people ranting on this forum about how a revolution or uprising against the government would never work because the government is legitimate and legal just by virtue of existing, would have been saying the same thing to the colonials in the 1700's.

[Codename Section]

a useless economy?

really? are you not making money?

I'm making money because of increased crime synonymous with a useless economy. :)




a dollar that's garbage?


Compared to ____________? Yeh, pretty much. What does it buy you these days? What will your retirement look like compared to if you'd done it earlier.



nice rhetoric… currency of choice for international transactions.

puleeze….


Where was it 10 years ago?

[Max Rockatansky]

The thing is, the same people ranting on this forum about how a revolution or uprising against the government would never work because the government is legitimate and legal just by virtue of existing, would have been saying the same thing to the colonials in the 1700's.

First, the Founders only reluctantly entered into revolt. They considered themselves British citizens first and simply wanted to be treated as such.

Second, it's not so much that a revolt wont' work as that most of those advocating it are a bunch of armchair pussies who have done little to serve their nation, much less do much to make it right.

[Agravan]

First, the Founders only reluctantly entered into revolt. They considered themselves British citizens first and simply wanted to be treated as such.

Second, it's not so much that a revolt wont' work as that most of those advocating it are a bunch of armchair pussies who have done little to serve their nation, much less do much to make it right.

You're one of the ones that would have said that about the colonials.
Serious question, tho. Did you serve?