View Full Version : Oslo Struck by Terrorists
Conley
07-22-2011, 09:44 AM
Anyone got more info on this? Having trouble finding English news sources with more details...
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/22/norway.explosion/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/174/174138/17413821/jpg/active/978x.jpg
Nope it looks like you are on it CL.....I just turned on CNN. To see if they are saying anything. Looks bad..... >:(
Conley
07-22-2011, 10:47 AM
yeah CNN is finally on it, before their homepage was about the dangers of fat. That company has seriously gone downhill.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/22/norway.explosion/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Conley
07-22-2011, 11:03 AM
bbc has much better coverage, i should have gone there first
Yep.....I got CNN on now. They are showing the coverage. Did they say what government building?
Oil Ministry.....is one. Plus they said the Prime minister was not in his office. We have a storm here and my TV has gone out.
Conley
07-22-2011, 11:19 AM
yes it seems the buildings damaged were in the government quarter and the PM's building specifically took the brunt of the damage (at least from one of the bombs, not sure how many there were)
K..... I got Picture. I am running CNN and MSNBC. BBCA on mine is not showing news.
Mister D
07-22-2011, 11:42 AM
Wow any word on the perpetrators?
Nope.....but they keep getting conflicting reports on how many dead? Though now MSNBC said there may be people trapped in the building.
Mister D
07-22-2011, 11:45 AM
If it's Mooslims this could be a turning point...
They did say something about the Ministry of Oil.....right now neither station I got on is running anything.
Mister D
07-22-2011, 11:50 AM
They did say something about the Ministry of Oil.....right now neither station I got on is running anything.
That's why I asked. The oil connection points in that direction but you never know. No sense in jumping to any conclusions.
Wasn't there something on Norway was willing to recognize the Palestinians? They just reported 2 dead and many injured.
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Said it was confirmed on the that it was a bomb. http://www.politicalhotwire.com/images/smilies/bbc/f_doh.gif
Conley
07-22-2011, 12:12 PM
They did say something about the Ministry of Oil.....right now neither station I got on is running anything.
That's why I asked. The oil connection points in that direction but you never know. No sense in jumping to any conclusions.
Agreed. I believe some news offices were hit as well, but they may have just been collateral damage. Reports are conflicting. I'm sure there are many more casualties to be reported :(
Conley
07-22-2011, 12:14 PM
a gunman as well?
"The bomb was followed by a shooting incident near Oslo at a youth meeting of the Labour Party which Mr Stoltenberg leads.
Unconfirmed reports said a man dressed as a police officer had opened fire indiscriminately, injuring five.
No group has said they carried out the attacks."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14252515
Conley
07-22-2011, 12:15 PM
here's a good map
this makes sense....i guess the size of the bomb damaged all the surrounding buildings (the newspaper, the oil ministry, etc)
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54221000/jpg/_54221888_oslo_blast_464map.jpg
Conley
07-22-2011, 02:07 PM
20 - 25 bodies at the youth camp :(
No group has said they carried out the attacks but police say they believe them to be linked.
Yeah waking up I just hear this..... :-\
http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2011/07/22/1311364711756_496.jpg
This guy was just popping people from a distance..... unarmed people and kids. I am surprised they didn't outright kill the shooter. But I am sure Intel was on the scene telling them they want him alive.
I wonder if AQ ever really thought things out.....I mean do this here in the US. Such creates a backlash. For all Muslims. Then to top it off they now have to not only be worried about US LES and Government Agencies.....but now they have to be worried about US Citizens.
Not that there are Government Buildings that would be of any significance in the Ghetto. But Our people now would be like taking them out before they can create any shit.
Cowardly to outright attack people with no weapons. >:(
Conley
07-22-2011, 07:00 PM
wow i did not know that...that makes this disgusting act even more sick >:(
i'm glad they captured him, some punishments can be worse than death
Mister D
07-22-2011, 08:07 PM
20 - 25 bodies at the youth camp :(
No group has said they carried out the attacks but police say they believe them to be linked.
Ah man... :o :(
http://www.news-press.com/article/20110722/NEWS01/110722020/0/NEWS01/Police-least-80-killed-Norway-youth-camp-shooting-spree?odyssey=nav%7Chead
Holy Shit he killed 80 kids.....plus now they have found more undetonated bombs.They don't know how many are injured. Earlier they said 17. Now 80, son-of bitch. >:(
Conley
07-22-2011, 09:58 PM
fuck
Conley
07-22-2011, 10:11 PM
they are calling the suspect a "right wing extremist" now
yep thats what i getting to......
Conley
07-22-2011, 10:12 PM
"After the shooting the police seized a 32-year-old Norwegian man on the island, according to the police and Justice Minister Knut Storberget. He was later identified as Anders Behring Breivik and was characterized by officials as a right-wing extremist.
The acting chief of police, Sveinung Sponheim, said Mr. Breivik, who is not known to have any ties to Islamic extremists, had also been seen in Oslo before the explosions. The police and other authorities declined to say what the suspect’s motivations might have been, but many speculated that the target was Mr. Stoltenberg’s liberal government.
“The police have every reason to believe there is a connection between the explosions and what happened at Utoya,” the police said. They said they later recovered explosives on the island.
Mr. Breivik had registered a farm-related business in Rena, in eastern Norway, which authorities said allowed him to order a large quantity of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, an ingredient that can be used to make explosives. Authorities were investigating whether the chemical may have been used in the bombing. "
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=1&hp
Ah you beat me to it...... >:D
Anders Behring Breivik | Facebook
https://twitter.com/#!/andersbbreivik
Named: The blond Norwegian, 32, arrested over 'holiday island massacre' and linked to Oslo bomb blasts | Mail Online
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This guy has a face book page and it says he is a Christian Conservative......thats him in standing in the middle of his carnage.
Conley
07-22-2011, 11:15 PM
well just goes to show why not to jump to conclusions...i was completely wrong on this one
Conley
07-23-2011, 08:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/TrBLl.jpg
oops...
Mister D
07-23-2011, 08:38 AM
well just goes to show why not to jump to conclusions...i was completely wrong on this one
Yeah, if I had to guess I would say the same thing but, like I said, you just never know. In fact, we still don't. Some people were trying to paint Jared Loughner as a right wing extremist but it turns out he was nothing of the kind.
Mister D
07-23-2011, 09:00 AM
So far this sounds like the act of a lunatic.
Conley
07-23-2011, 09:05 AM
well just goes to show why not to jump to conclusions...i was completely wrong on this one
Yeah, if I had to guess I would say the same thing but, like I said, you just never know. In fact, we still don't. Some people were trying to paint Jared Loughner as a right wing extremist but it turns out he was nothing of the kind.
Yeah I forgot all about that.
True enough, crazies come in all shapes and sizes.
Mister D
07-23-2011, 09:26 AM
I went over to PH to see what the ghouls were saying and they did not disappoint. Now this is "Christian" extremism and this guy represents the "new face of bigotry" because of the anti-immigrant and anti-Islam views he supposedly holds. Not only do many if not most Europeans hold such views there is absolutely no evidence at this time to suggest that his motivation was religious or racial/ethnic. None. He hates Muslims so he shoots up a day camp full of Norwegian kids? ???
I didn't think it was possible but I am becoming more of a misanthrope.
Conley
07-23-2011, 10:01 AM
No doubt this tragedy will be used by many sides to justify their positions...
Looks like he was after the PM.....the PM was suppose to speak at the Camp but didnt go there because of the bombs.
Ah So ya went over there D.....then you see that they have made Bla a mod again. But they did Put Mordent up there as a mod.....now Amit has made Seraph an Admin over the council members Davo wasnt happy about that.....but he and slinger have cheered on their buddy.
Then because I said something to the owner.....first he stated none wanted the job.....then asked me if i would take a spot. I think he just wanted to see what i would say if i was offered it....i told him .....he has enough posters now and he has the perception that he wants. Got the ole crew back in place so that can protect their hair corp club members.
TR and Flock are all into Blackbeards ass calling him all kinds of names no one did anything. He comes from PF.....but it was great to see the posse in action. Problem is only a few notice and others don't stand up and say anything about it.
The owner closed down one thread as soon as he sw slinger come my way.....hurried and locked it down before I could jump slinger. I was in the IM with him the whole time but he saw what slinger put up before i did. lol
Still i told him.....whatever. Then Freecell told Bla Congrads and signed off.....I left her a pm there.
Left her one here too. Sure hope we didnt lose here.
Conley
07-23-2011, 10:56 AM
We are more than just one.
We are many.
We are strong.
We are the RANT.
>:D
Mister D
07-23-2011, 11:41 AM
No doubt this tragedy will be used by many sides to justify their positions...
Governments will too.
We are more than just one.
We are many.
We are strong.
We are the RANT.
>:D
Boy George I"ll Tumble For you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVnfrw2nDFA#)
http://politirant.com/Smileys/oldrant/boobs.gif
Just as long as we don't catch ya doing that I'll Tumble 4 Ya.....Routine! >:D
Conley
07-23-2011, 01:34 PM
dayum he's looking like an honorary member of ICP
dayum he's looking like an honorary member of ICP
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Inner City Pushbroom-Patrol????? ;D
Conley
07-23-2011, 03:08 PM
:D
why is he doing that?
did he get busted for soliciting sex in a public restroom?
Mister D
07-23-2011, 03:16 PM
We're hearing more of the usual blather about cracking down on extremism which reminds me of the Loughner incident. ::) A guy doesn't need a "history of mental illness" to flip his gourd.
Conley
07-23-2011, 03:42 PM
something i'm noticing with the media:
if a dark person commits a crime, it's terrorism but if it's a white person does the deed, it's extremism?
i imagine this psychopath's motives for going after the kids is that they would have been future leaders of the liberal party he had such a problem with.
Mister D
07-23-2011, 04:03 PM
something i'm noticing with the media:
if a dark person commits a crime, it's terrorism but if it's a white person does the deed, it's extremism?
i imagine this psychopath's motives for going after the kids is that they would have been future leaders of the liberal party he had such a problem with.
Well it might be because the incidents perpetrated by lone wolves are politically motivated but not organized. Thus far, it looks like this guy was on a one man crusade. Similarly, McVeigh's attack involved only a handful of people as far as I know. There is a worldwide network engagd in Jihad.
Yeah, that would make sense.
Conley
07-23-2011, 04:56 PM
to be sure, there is a big difference between this individual acting alone and the countless acts of terrorism under the AQ banner and the larger jihadist movement. to me it still terrorism either way. i am not sure why the norway killer's religion is even being discussed, as his motivation seemed purely political?
Mister D
07-23-2011, 07:27 PM
to be sure, there is a big difference between this individual acting alone and the countless acts of terrorism under the AQ banner and the larger jihadist movement. to me it still terrorism either way. i am not sure why the norway killer's religion is even being discussed, as his motivation seemed purely political?
I can understand why they are using those terms but I think you're right that it is a distinction without any real difference.
I think the killer's professed religion was purposely mentioned by a government and a media that simply wants to draw attention away from a disastrous immigration policy. See, killers can be Christian white guys too... ::)
Well both of you guys know that with a life lived in major metropolis.....acts of terrorism take place each and every day. In America you are Free to be a terrorist......yet as soon as you make a political statement and or become involved in a political movement.
You now become a threat to the Country......but you are Free to so.
Mister D
07-23-2011, 09:01 PM
Well both of you guys know that with a life lived in major metropolis.....acts of terrorism take place each and every day. In America you are Free to be a terrorist......yet as soon as you make a political statement and or become involved in a political movement.
You now become a threat to the Country......but you are Free to so.
When we speak of terrorism we are usually referring to politically motivated violence. Of course inner city crime (gang activity etc.) does indeed terrorize the people of who live there.
Conley
07-23-2011, 09:12 PM
and that inner city violence and crime which is so prevalent now goes by hardly without notice, even though in deaths it is a lot larger than victims of terrorism in this country.
meanwhile amy winehouse overdosing is front page news...
Mister D
07-23-2011, 09:22 PM
and that inner city violence and crime which is so prevalent now goes by hardly without notice, even though in deaths it is a lot larger than victims of terrorism in this country.
meanwhile amy winehouse overdosing is front page news...
That wasn't always so. For example, back in the late 80s/early 90s there was a demand from communities in LA to do something about the violence. The state stepped in and did what it knows how to do: kick asses and lock people up. Some began to complain about the police presence and their tactics although some maintain that the majority were sorry to see the crackdowns end. Crack cocaine carries a greater sentence for the same reason. It was a response to inner city mayhem.
I know the name but I can't connect it to a song.
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Conley
07-23-2011, 09:31 PM
yeah, and at least according to official data, murder rates and other drug related violence is at historic lows, far below what this country experienced in the 80s and 90s.
Thats understandable.....but it is the spin on how the media brings it out there. Shouldn't the facts have been reported so that speculation was not a primary fixation.
As with this individual.....how does he kill 90 people within an hour or more of time and no one take this animal out? Regardless of any political ramifications. Just like with the focus on the Christian Conservative info.....should any of that been put out there in the first place. As they try to figure out what makes this person tick.
Also did the Norwegian Government set this all in motion when what could be classifed as the Fed, and have LE's back off due to their take on looking into what is classified as terrorism used for political means? That the measures they would take.....would also conflict with what measures LE's would take.
and that inner city violence and crime which is so prevalent now goes by hardly without notice, even though in deaths it is a lot larger than victims of terrorism in this country.
meanwhile amy winehouse overdosing is front page news...
That wasn't always so. For example, back in the late 80s/early 90s there was a demand from communities in LA to do something about the violence. The state stepped in and did what it knows how to do: kick asses and lock people up. Some began to complain about the police presence and their tactics although some maintain that the majority were sorry to see the crackdowns end. Crack cocaine carries a greater sentence for the same reason. It was a response to inner city mayhem.
I know the name but I can't connect it to a song.
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Well in truth once two of the Black Panthers got out to Cali-land.....thats how the Bloods and Crips came to be. The Police presence which was seen at first as a good thing.....then turned out to be what? Throw man's nature into the mix of having to be in such an environment all the time.
So then The Bloods said hey we are like family. You come into this neighborhood and the whole block is like a family and will stick together like one.
The other responce was the CRIPS.....which again under the community and or neighborhood. Came about as......Community Resistance in Progress. Which was in direct responce to the LE's and their behaviours and targeting of specifics groups of people.
Terrorism used by the system.....on a percieved threat to not society. But to a specific portion of it.
Mister D
07-24-2011, 10:01 AM
and that inner city violence and crime which is so prevalent now goes by hardly without notice, even though in deaths it is a lot larger than victims of terrorism in this country.
meanwhile amy winehouse overdosing is front page news...
That wasn't always so. For example, back in the late 80s/early 90s there was a demand from communities in LA to do something about the violence. The state stepped in and did what it knows how to do: kick asses and lock people up. Some began to complain about the police presence and their tactics although some maintain that the majority were sorry to see the crackdowns end. Crack cocaine carries a greater sentence for the same reason. It was a response to inner city mayhem.
I know the name but I can't connect it to a song.
.
Well in truth once two of the Black Panthers got out to Cali-land.....thats how the Bloods and Crips came to be. The Police presence which was seen at first as a good thing.....then turned out to be what? Throw man's nature into the mix of having to be in such an environment all the time.
So then The Bloods said hey we are like family. You come into this neighborhood and the whole block is like a family and will stick together like one.
The other responce was the CRIPS.....which again under the community and or neighborhood. Came about as......Community Resistance in Progress. Which was in direct responce to the LE's and their behaviours and targeting of specifics groups of people.
Terrorism used by the system.....on a percieved threat to not society. But to a specific portion of it.
The enforcement measures I mentioned were in good faith and took place long after the founding of the Bloods and Crips. For example, Gates' Operation Hammer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Gates#Operation_Hammer
Mister D
07-24-2011, 10:02 AM
yeah, and at least according to official data, murder rates and other drug related violence is at historic lows, far below what this country experienced in the 80s and 90s.
Things got pretty bad when crack appeared. It was cheap to make and helped flood the gangs with money and hence weapons.
Conley
07-24-2011, 10:38 AM
did handguns become any cheaper during this time? it seemed like guys who could barely scrape enough together to eat were somehow armed.
Mister D
07-24-2011, 11:03 AM
did handguns become any cheaper during this time? it seemed like guys who could barely scrape enough together to eat were somehow armed.
Not that I know of. From what I understand the gangs became flushed with cash that was never available before.
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 11:15 AM
so when are we going to see the retractions from fox news and wall street journal? this was not a muslim. you all look foolish.
Conley
07-24-2011, 11:19 AM
so when are we going to see the retractions from fox news and wall street journal? this was not a muslim. you all look foolish.
???
I don't work for either of those companies. Welcome to the board though ;)
Mister D
07-24-2011, 12:14 PM
so when are we going to see the retractions from fox news and wall street journal? this was not a muslim. you all look foolish.
No one mentioned Fox or the WSJ and, more importantly, no one said the attack was perpetrated by Muslims. But welcome. :)
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 12:49 PM
fox and the wall street journal said the bombers and shooters were muslim. they have not apologized. it is being reported by other news channels. in this thread it looks like you thought it was a muslim too. did you know out of 300 acts of terrorism in europe in 2009 only one was by a muslim?
Conley
07-24-2011, 12:50 PM
Do you have a source to back up that claim?
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 12:56 PM
Meanwhile, in the world of reality, of 294 Terrorist attacks attempted or executed on European soil in 2009 as counted by the EU, a grand total of one -- 1 out of 294 -- was perpetrated by "Islamists."
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/23/nyt/index.html
Mister D
07-24-2011, 01:00 PM
fox and the wall street journal said the bombers and shooters were muslim. they have not apologized. it is being reported by other news channels. in this thread it looks like you thought it was a muslim too. did you know out of 300 acts of terrorism in europe in 2009 only one was by a muslim?
I don't care what Fox or the WSJ supposedly said. You said we looked foolish. Yes, I did think it was probably a Muslim but neither I nor anyone else here committed. We made it clear that the facts are simply not out yet.
Secondly, can you provide citations for your claims about Fox, the WSJ and terrorism? Regarding the latter, could it be that we don't hear about those terrorist incidents because typically no one gets hurt? Moreover, were there not attacks in Moscow and elsewhere in the Russian Federation in 2009?
Mister D
07-24-2011, 01:09 PM
Meanwhile, in the world of reality, of 294 Terrorist attacks attempted or executed on European soil in 2009 as counted by the EU, a grand total of one -- 1 out of 294 -- was perpetrated by "Islamists."
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/23/nyt/index.html
So? The attacks that have caused the most fatalities and injuries in Europe and much of the rest of the world have been connected to radical Islam.
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 01:21 PM
read the link and you will see fox, the wall street journal, and the new york times all claimed the terrorists were muslim
russia isn't part of the eu so that is irrelvant to the facts i taught you above
Captain Obvious
07-24-2011, 02:19 PM
Welcome hellraiser, you're going to fit in nicely here. We need a good antagonist.
When I first heard this story they already had this guy pegged so an radical islamic terrorist attack was never in the picture for me. I bounced around on news sources - fox and a couple others and I didn't see anybody blaming islamic terrorists.
But I'm not trying to discredit you - I'll assume your statements are accurate and considering that they are, who should fox apologize to - radical islamic terrorists?
;D ;D ;D
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 02:20 PM
lol got pretty quiet in here
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 02:23 PM
so you want me to congradulate you for not paying attention to the news?
of course after they captured the guy they arent going to say he's a muslim. duh. not even fox is that stupid!
its called a retraction, they should give it and apologize to the viewers who they lied to
Captain Obvious
07-24-2011, 02:25 PM
read the link and you will see fox, the wall street journal, and the new york times all claimed the terrorists were muslim
russia isn't part of the eu so that is irrelvant to the facts i taught you above
You're going to have to post a source for me to react to that statement.
While you're quick to make assumptions, I tend to consider the facts before taking a position.
Conley
07-24-2011, 02:27 PM
Yeah...I don't see anything about Fox News or the WSJ in that link?
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 02:35 PM
read the link and you will see fox, the wall street journal, and the new york times all claimed the terrorists were muslim
russia isn't part of the eu so that is irrelvant to the facts i taught you above
You're going to have to post a source for me to react to that statement.
While you're quick to make assumptions, I tend to consider the facts before taking a position.
wasnt talking to you but read the link i posted before and it talks about the new york times.
i don't make assumptions i just call them like i see them. looks like other people were the ones making the assumptions chief.
Captain Obvious
07-24-2011, 02:36 PM
read the link and you will see fox, the wall street journal, and the new york times all claimed the terrorists were muslim
russia isn't part of the eu so that is irrelvant to the facts i taught you above
You're going to have to post a source for me to react to that statement.
While you're quick to make assumptions, I tend to consider the facts before taking a position.
wasnt talking to you but read the link i posted before and it talks about the new york times.
i don't make assumptions i just call them like i see them. looks like other people were the ones making the assumptions chief.
You were on the faux news bashing bandwagon - where's the link to that?
I don't give a shit about the NYT, show me the fox.
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 02:56 PM
hang on i will find it since you asked. google it and you will probably see.
Mister D
07-24-2011, 03:13 PM
read the link and you will see fox, the wall street journal, and the new york times all claimed the terrorists were muslim
russia isn't part of the eu so that is irrelvant to the facts i taught you above
The E.U. isn't Europe. It's the European Union. Secondly, could you paste the parts where Fox and the WSJ appear? I'm having some trouble finding them. :)
Mister D
07-24-2011, 03:15 PM
lol got pretty quiet in here
That's because I went to lunch. I expected my questions to have been answered by now... ;D
Again, what do your stats on 2009 prove? That radical Islamist terrorism is not a threat?
Mister D
07-24-2011, 03:16 PM
Yeah...I don't see anything about Fox News or the WSJ in that link?
That's because it's not there. ;)
Mister D
07-24-2011, 03:18 PM
read the link and you will see fox, the wall street journal, and the new york times all claimed the terrorists were muslim
russia isn't part of the eu so that is irrelvant to the facts i taught you above
You're going to have to post a source for me to react to that statement.
While you're quick to make assumptions, I tend to consider the facts before taking a position.
wasnt talking to you but read the link i posted before and it talks about the new york times.
i don't make assumptions i just call them like i see them. looks like other people were the ones making the assumptions chief.
Sure you do. You were babbling something about Fox News and the WSJ when you cited an article criticizing liberal papers like the NYT and the Washington Post! :D
Mister D
07-24-2011, 03:24 PM
Got pretty quiet in here... ;D
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 03:32 PM
its hard when everyone is jumping on me at once
i will answer all your questions just give me a minute here
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 03:34 PM
read the link and you will see fox, the wall street journal, and the new york times all claimed the terrorists were muslim
russia isn't part of the eu so that is irrelvant to the facts i taught you above
The E.U. isn't Europe. It's the European Union. Secondly, could you paste the parts where Fox and the WSJ appear? I'm having some trouble finding them. :)
yeah moscow is not part of europe so please dont try to cover up the fact that 1 out of 294 terrorist acts were by a muslim.
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 03:40 PM
its hard because i am talking about the tv and not a website or print media but you can see some of it here
http://www.politicususa.com/en/laura-ingraham-blames-norway-terrorism-on-muslims
watch the video and see for your selves.
Mister D
07-24-2011, 03:50 PM
read the link and you will see fox, the wall street journal, and the new york times all claimed the terrorists were muslim
russia isn't part of the eu so that is irrelvant to the facts i taught you above
The E.U. isn't Europe. It's the European Union. Secondly, could you paste the parts where Fox and the WSJ appear? I'm having some trouble finding them. :)
yeah moscow is not part of europe so please dont try to cover up the fact that 1 out of 294 terrorist acts were by a muslim.
White Russia is part of Europe.
Europe is now generally defined by geographers as the westernmost peninsula of Eurasia, with its boundaries marked by large bodies of water to the north, west and south; Europe's limits to the far east are usually taken to be the Urals...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe
Now that we understand that what are you trying to prove with your dubious stats? That radical Islam is not a threat?
Mister D
07-24-2011, 03:51 PM
its hard when everyone is jumping on me at once
i will answer all your questions just give me a minute here
Take your time. BTW, calling yourself "hellraiser" and making false claims right off the bat doesn't help. Just an FYI.
Mister D
07-24-2011, 03:53 PM
its hard because i am talking about the tv and not a website or print media but you can see some of it here
http://www.politicususa.com/en/laura-ingraham-blames-norway-terrorism-on-muslims
watch the video and see for your selves.
Why would attack Fox and the WSJ but post an article that does not mention either outlet? Quite the partisan! :o
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 03:57 PM
its hard because i am talking about the tv and not a website or print media but you can see some of it here
http://www.politicususa.com/en/laura-ingraham-blames-norway-terrorism-on-muslims
watch the video and see for your selves.
Why would attack Fox and the WSJ but post an article that does not mention either outlet? Quite the partisan! :o
english not so good lol...what you mean?
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 03:58 PM
looks like i am raising all kinds of hell hahahah got you on the defense now
Mister D
07-24-2011, 03:59 PM
its hard because i am talking about the tv and not a website or print media but you can see some of it here
http://www.politicususa.com/en/laura-ingraham-blames-norway-terrorism-on-muslims
watch the video and see for your selves.
Why would attack Fox and the WSJ but post an article that does not mention either outlet? Quite the partisan! :o
english not so good lol...what you mean?
Your English is not so good? I'll try again. Why would you attack Fox News and the WSJ but cite an article that does not mention those media outlets? The article mentions liberal newspapers like the NYT.
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 04:00 PM
ok that makes more sense. you missed some words the first time.
anyway we're not talking about moscow we're talking about norway. please stay on the topic, ok?
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 04:02 PM
watch the video you will see about fox
Mister D
07-24-2011, 04:03 PM
ok that makes more sense. you missed some words the first time.
anyway we're not talking about moscow we're talking about norway. please stay on the topic, ok?
I missed one word which you should have been able to figure out. :D
You mentioned Europe. If you didn't want to talk about Europe why did you bring it up?
Mister D
07-24-2011, 04:08 PM
watch the video you will see about fox
That doesn't answer my question. You came out swinging about Fox and the WSJ but posted an article that condemns liberal newspapers like the NYT. Oops? ;)
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 04:11 PM
did you watch the video?
what is your question now?
Mister D
07-24-2011, 05:06 PM
did you watch the video?
what is your question now?
Why did you attack Fox News and the WSJ but post an article that concerns liberal newspapers like the NYT? Oops?
Conley
07-24-2011, 05:11 PM
:D
Conley
07-24-2011, 07:25 PM
Hellraiser, welcome again to the board. I know it seems like we don't have many liberals on here but be patient with us.
There's a regular on this forum you'd really hit it off with. His name is Grumpy...he took a short hiatus to go join the camping protest on the steps of the NYSE but he'll be back soon. Hit him up via PM if you feel like it, I think you guys will have a lot in common.
Mister D
07-24-2011, 07:46 PM
This is a work in progress. We will have more members soon. In the meantime, you can hone your skills against the current members. Actually, I'd say I'm right for sure but I wouldn't say that about Conley and Capt' is kind of hard to pin down IMHO. MMC is an oldschool conservative.
freecell
07-24-2011, 09:19 PM
I am old school con too.
hellraiser
07-24-2011, 09:21 PM
the way the send people to jail these days i don't hold it against anyone
the way the send people to jail these days i don't hold it against anyone
Not if you a Democratic Politician.....then you only get sent to the Ethics committee!!!!! >:D lol
hellraiser
07-27-2011, 11:33 AM
maybe because its usually the republicans that are breaking laws? democrats dont have as many legal problems. they arent trying to get rich or tell people how to live while secretly doing drugs and cheating or molesting kids like larry craig
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