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Cigar
01-29-2014, 01:23 PM
Over 600 Economists Sign Letter In Support of $10.10 Minimum Wage

Over 600 PhD economists have signed an open letter—initiated by Economic Policy Institute President Lawrence Mishel and Harvard University professor Lawrence Katz—to the president and Congress in support of the Harkin-Miller Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2013. Signatories include 7 Nobel Prize winners and 8 former presidents of the American Economic Association.

The letter urges lawmakers to immediately enact a three-step raise of 95 cents a year for three years, which would mean a minimum wage of $10.10 by 2016, and then index it to protect against inflation. This increase would mean that minimum-wage workers who work full time, full year would see a raise from their current salary of roughly $15,000 to roughly $21,000. The proposals would also raise the tipped minimum wage to 70 percent of the regular minimum wage.

“The fact that so many economists support this legislation makes it a no-brainer for Congress,” said Mishel. “Raising the minimum wage to $10.10 would restore the value that it’s lost to inflation over the years, giving working families a raise while providing modest economic stimulus.”

President Obama has endorsed the Harkin-Miller bill and is expected to call for an increase to the minimum wage in his upcoming State of the Union address.

http://www.epi.org/press/600-economists-sign-letter-support-10-10/



Economist Statement on the Federal Minimum Wage

Dear Mr. President, Speaker Boehner, Majority Leader Reid, Congressman Cantor, Senator McConnell, and Congresswoman Pelosi:

July will mark five years since the federal minimum wage was last raised. We urge you to act now and enact a three-step raise of 95 cents a year for three years—which would mean a minimum wage of $10.10 by 2016—and then index it to protect against inflation. Senator Tom Harkin and Representative George Miller have introduced legislation to accomplish this. The increase to $10.10 would mean that minimum-wage workers who work full time, full year would see a raise from their current salary of roughly $15,000 to roughly $21,000. These proposals also usefully raise the tipped minimum wage to 70% of the regular minimum.

This policy would directly provide higher wages for close to 17 million workers by 2016. Furthermore, another 11 million workers whose wages are just above the new minimum would likely see a wage increase through “spillover” effects, as employers adjust their internal wage ladders. The vast majority of employees who would benefit are adults in working families, disproportionately women, who work at least 20 hours a week and depend on these earnings to make ends meet. At a time when persistent high unemployment is putting enormous downward pressure on wages, such a minimum-wage increase would provide a much-needed boost to the earnings of low-wage workers.

In recent years there have been important developments in the academic literature on the effect of increases in the minimum wage on employment, with the weight of evidence now showing that increases in the minimum wage have had little or no negative effect on the employment of minimum-wage workers, even during times of weakness in the labor market. Research suggests that a minimum-wage increase could have a small stimulative effect on the economy as low-wage workers spend their additional earnings, raising demand and job growth, and providing some help on the jobs front.

Sincerely,

http://www.epi.org/minimum-wage-statement/

:studying:

Mainecoons
01-29-2014, 01:26 PM
How many economists are there?

http://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/how-many-economists

http://www.studentscholarships.org/professions/354/employed/economists.php

Hmm, looks like a lot more than signed your letter.

Maybe you should have asked how many economists it takes to change a light bulb.

About 600. And they all work for the government.

:rofl:

The Xl
01-29-2014, 01:35 PM
Keep inflating the currency and keep wondering why the purchasing power of your dollar goes to shit, why no one is getting hired, and making it impossible for the poor to effectively save.

Seriously, keep doing it. I mean, it's been working wonders already, just keep the ball rollin'

nathanbforrest45
01-29-2014, 01:40 PM
What the hell if raising the minimum wage to $10.10 (which by the way is a fake proposal) will help the economy lets raise it to $17.31 which would then bring everyone up to the per capita income levels. That should immediately, if not sooner, cure all of our economic ills.

Captain Obvious
01-29-2014, 01:41 PM
The article doesn't mention the bazillion economists who say it's a bad economic decision.

keymanjim
01-29-2014, 01:43 PM
This increase would mean that minimum-wage workers who work full time,


There aren't too many of them left thanks to obamacare.

Now, who gets to pay for the increase cost of mindless employees? Remember the last time the tried this? Unemployment shot from 4.6% to 10.1%

Heyduke
01-29-2014, 01:48 PM
What the hell if raising the minimum wage to $10.10 (which by the way is a fake proposal) will help the economy lets raise it to $17.31 which would then bring everyone up to the per capita income levels. That should immediately, if not sooner, cure all of our economic ills.

But my $5 foot-long Subway sandwich would cost $13, or it would be made by robots and not sandwich artists. Jared wouldn't approve.

Cigar
01-29-2014, 01:49 PM
Yea Yea Yea I know ... what do Economic PDs know over GOP Politicians and Forum Experts :laugh:

nathanbforrest45
01-29-2014, 01:50 PM
But my $5 foot-long Subway sandwich would cost $13, or it would be made by robots and not sandwich artists. Jared wouldn't approve.


Then you simply pass a law making it illegal to replace any current employee with a mechanical alternative.

Cigar
01-29-2014, 02:01 PM
Actually it's kinda educational watching dinosaurs fight extinction ... because sooner or later ... they'll become fossil fuel :grin: it's all a matter of time. :wink:

darroll
01-29-2014, 02:21 PM
Please tell Wal-Mart so they can lay off more workers.
You have to make a profit when you are in business.
Ten bucks an hour for some kid to learn how to mow my lawn.
Inflation is going to pay us back for our stupid decisions.

Mainecoons
01-29-2014, 06:18 PM
Then you simply pass a law making it illegal to replace any current employee with a mechanical alternative.

That's pretty much what is going on in France. How is that working for them?

Not so hot.

Chris
01-29-2014, 06:26 PM
The article doesn't mention the bazillion economists who say it's a bad economic decision.


The article also doesn't mention the reasoning behind their advocacy.


I was going to ask, before matters does, what is the Bazillion School of Economics? Do they do math?

Mainecoons
01-29-2014, 06:35 PM
Most of them do but there are 600 who don't.

:rofl:

Kalkin
01-29-2014, 06:48 PM
Actually it's kinda educational watching dinosaurs fight extinction ... because sooner or later ... they'll become fossil fuel :grin: it's all a matter of time. :wink:
It is funny watching the socialist dinosaurs cling to their global warming fantasies while ignoring the approaching ice age.

Peter1469
01-29-2014, 06:59 PM
No real economists signed such a letter. Cigar is, well, a liar. Want to put a teen out of work - listen to the mind of Cigar. What to learn about economics- toss Cigar into the trash.

Toro
01-31-2014, 07:52 PM
This minimum wage business is tricky. On its face, raising the wage seems an easy way to fight poverty. Just pay low-wage workers more. After all, some scholarly research finds that, within reasonable limits, there’s no job penalty. A higher minimum doesn’t reduce employment much, if at all. By and large, that’s the position of the Obama administration, congressional Democrats and liberal groups. Unfortunately, it may not be that simple.

Democrats propose raising the present federal minimum of $7.25 an hour to $8.20 this year, $9.15 in 2015 and $10.10 in 2016. Assuming no job losses, almost 28 million workers would benefit by 2016, estimates the Economic Policy Institute (EPI), a liberal think tank. ... Someone working 40 hours a week at the minimum would see annual wages go from $15,080 now to $21,008 in 2016. ...

For starters, the minimum wage is a blunt instrument to aid the poor because it covers many workers from families that are well above the federal poverty line. By the administration’s figures, 53 percent of workers who would benefit from a higher minimum come from families with incomes above $35,000, including 22 percent with incomes exceeding $75,000.

Next, economists still disagree on the job effect. In studies — and their review of other studies — economists David Neumark and J.M. Ian Salas of the University of California at Irvine and William Wascher of the Federal Reserve conclude that higher minimums do weaken low-wage employment. ...

But scholarly research, regardless of conclusions, may be beside the point. Businesses don’t consult studies to decide what to do. They respond based on their own economic outlook. They may not react to a higher minimum wage now as they did in the past. Two realities suggest this.

First, the proposed increase is huge. By 2016, it’s almost 40 percent. Similar gains usually have occurred when high inflation advanced all wages rapidly. The minimum mainly kept pace. That’s not true today. Compared to average wages, the proposed hike in the minimum appears to be the largest since the 1960s.

Second, businesses have been reluctant job creators. They curb hiring at the least pretext. They seem obsessed with cost control. The Great Recession and the 2008-09 financial crisis spawned so much fear that they changed, at least temporarily, behavior. Firms are more cautious.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/robert-j-samuelson-minimum-wage-mirage/2014/01/16/3bafd9ee-7ed4-11e3-93c1-0e888170b723_story.html

Toro
01-31-2014, 07:54 PM
Then you simply pass a law making it illegal to replace any current employee with a mechanical alternative.

Which means that businesses that can automate will do so rather than hire anyone.