How to Create a Social State by Saul Alinsky

[Libhater]

Both Obama and Hillary worship at the Alinsky Altar.

Saul David Alinsky was an American community organizer and writer.
He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community
organizing. He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able
to create a social state. The first is the most important.


1) Healthcare--Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty--Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor
people are easier to control and will not fight back if you
are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt--Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are
able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control--Remove the ability to defend themselves from the
government. That way you are able to create a
police state.

5) Welfare--Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing,
and Income)

6) Education--Take control of what people read and listen to--take
control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion--Remove the belief in the God from the Government and
schools.

8) Class Warfare--Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor.
This will cause more discontent and it will be easier
to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


DOES ANY of THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?

[Akula]

Both Obama and Hillary worship at the Alinsky Altar.

Saul David Alinsky was an American community organizer and writer.
He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community
organizing. He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able
to create a social state. The first is the most important.


1) Healthcare--Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty--Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor
people are easier to control and will not fight back if you
are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt--Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are
able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control--Remove the ability to defend themselves from the
government. That way you are able to create a
police state.

5) Welfare--Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing,
and Income)

6) Education--Take control of what people read and listen to--take
control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion--Remove the belief in the God from the Government and
schools.

8) Class Warfare--Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor.
This will cause more discontent and it will be easier
to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


DOES ANY of THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?

Exactly.

..and let's not overlook the Cloward-Pivens strategy which is essentially the administration's playbook for purposely wrecking the country.
Overwhelm the govt with regulations and rules in order to collapse it from the inside.


They manufacture a "crisis" and then implement a "solution" that actually makes the "crisis" worse...and moreover it purposely makes implementing a real solution to the crisis next to impossible by creating an almost impenetrable tangle of "regulations" and "laws"...Of course the point being that every "solution" to the crisis will entail purposely overwhelming the fed govt programs in an effort to cause those programs and the fed govt to implode under it's own weight.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Debunked (http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/alinsky.asp). Jesus, find a new MacGuffin.

[Cigar]

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/obama-brownshirt1.jpg

[Peter1469]

Looks like 1933 Germany.^^^^

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Looks like 1933 Germany.
Yeah. Except it's bollocks, and Alinsky never wrote it.

[Akula]

Yeah. Except it's bollocks, and Alinsky never wrote it.

Same principles. Different words.

[Cigar]

Both Obama and Hillary worship at the Alinsky Altar.

Saul David Alinsky was an American community organizer and writer.
He is generally considered to be the founder of modern community
organizing. He is often noted for his book Rules for Radicals.

There are 8 levels of control that must be obtained before you are able
to create a social state. The first is the most important.


1) Healthcare--Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty--Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor
people are easier to control and will not fight back if you
are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt--Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are
able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control--Remove the ability to defend themselves from the
government. That way you are able to create a
police state.

5) Welfare--Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing,
and Income)

6) Education--Take control of what people read and listen to--take
control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion--Remove the belief in the God from the Government and
schools.

8) Class Warfare--Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor.
This will cause more discontent and it will be easier
to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.


DOES ANY of THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?

You forgot a important one ...

Demographics ... no fuckie fuckie ... not babies :afro:

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Same principles. Different words.
No. Try again.

[Peter1469]

Yeah. Except it's bollocks, and Alinsky never wrote it.

Sorry I was referring to Post 4, the picture.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Sorry I was referring to Post 4, the picture.
Not showing up on my browser. :azn:

[Libhater]

No. Try again.

What for, he got it exactly right. And to think there are some (perhaps you as well) that say
obama isn't a socialist. My goodness, those 8 steps by Alinsky to create a social state could
have been written by obama, for he is following them all to a friggin tee.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

What for, he got it exactly right. And to think there are some (perhaps you as well) that say
obama isn't a socialist. My goodness, those 8 steps by Alinsky to create a social state could
have been written by obama, for he is following them all to a friggin tee.
The eight steps are an exposed forgery, and I'm not even going to go into the truth about Obama. It's probably too shocking for you to handle.

[Libhater]

The eight steps are an exposed forgery, and I'm not even going to go into the truth about Obama. It's probably too shocking for you to handle.

Exposed forgery? All I know is that those eight steps are indeed the ongoing guideline for obama's socialist push to wreck America. The truth about obama? I know more about the nefarious ways of obama then he is willing to divulge to his own wife. Btw, did you see the documentary of obama's sorry ass life called '2016'?

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Exposed forgery? All I know is that those eight steps are indeed the ongoing guideline for obama's socialist push to wreck America.
Well, why'd you market it as the work of Alinsky? Shock value?

The truth about obama? I know more about the nefarious ways of obama then he is willing to divulge to his own wife. Btw, did you see the documentary of obama's sorry ass life called '2016'?
Yes, and, frankly, it was a waste of time. That film's sole purpose was to convince people to vote Republican, as if electing the corporate hydra's other head means it isn't going to bite your ass.

[Libhater]

Well, why'd you market it as the work of Alinsky? Shock value?

Yeah, that must be it...shock value! No, it is Alinsky's work that beautifully coincided with his Rules for Radicals.


Yes, and, frankly, it was a waste of time. That film's sole purpose was to convince people to vote Republican, as if electing the corporate hydra's other head means it isn't going to bite your ass.

You got to admit that obama wasn't properly vetted at any time before the election. In fact, he was never vetted both before or after the election. For those of us who knew obama to be the anti/un American that he always was and still is, watching '2016' surely confirmed our suspcions of him.

[The Sage of Main Street]

The eight steps are an exposed forgery, and I'm not even going to go into the truth about Obama. It's probably too shocking for you to handle.

Next the Righties will be peddling the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

[Libhater]

Next the Righties will be peddling the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

What do you mean next, everyone knows the Protocols are real since the many authors or quotes from that work are from jews or zionists themselves.

[The Sage of Main Street]

What do you mean next, everyone knows the Protocols are real since the many authors or quotes from that work are from jews or zionists themselves.

RIGHTIE RAP MUSIC

Maobama comes on
Like he's Obi-Wan Kenobi

But he's really a
Protocoling
Elder of Nairobi

[Libhater]

RIGHTIE RAP MUSIC

Maobama comes on
Like he's Obi-Wan Kenobi

But he's really a
Protocoling
Elder of Nairobi


I can carry a tune for a long while until it gets too heavy, but I doubt I'll get tired of humming
that little baby. Surprised you didn't conjure up a rhyming tune that included the zionists' favorite

word goy with say ploy. Thanks.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

What do you mean next, everyone knows the Protocols are real since the many authors or quotes from that work are from jews or zionists themselves.
God give me strength.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Yeah, that must be it...shock value! No, it is Alinsky's work that beautifully coincided with his Rules for Radicals.
Rules for Radicals is a 101 title used by every activist movement, including the Tea Party, since the 1960s. It's got nothing to do with taking over government, nothing to do with forging a sinister Marxist pariah state. Hell, cons wouldn't even know about it were it not the basis of Hillary's doctoral thesis.

You got to admit that obama wasn't properly vetted at any time before the election. In fact, he was never vetted both before or after the election. For those of us who knew obama to be the anti/un American that he always was and still is, watching '2016' surely confirmed our suspcions of him.
He's just another President, in the pockets of the same kingmakers that have inducted and brought down every one of his predecessors over the last 150 years. Details of his personal life are irrelevant when we accept that, ultimately, he ain't running the show.

[Libhater]

God give me strength.

Sure hope you aren't expecting the zionist's god to give you strength, since they're all atheists who are responsible for mass slaughter of tens of millions of Christians.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Sure hope you aren't expecting the zionist's god to give you strength, since they're all atheists who are responsible for mass slaughter of tens of millions of Christians.
You are aware the Protocols was just a cheap plagiarization stitched together by the Okhrana to incite illiterate Russian peasants to pogroms, right? They debunked it back in the 1920s.

[Germanicus]

I never heard of the guy. He really wants to increase debt to unsustainable levels?

Economic Independence should be a top priority for the State. For its own sake. As well as for the public. Economic Independence is a matter of National Security.

Citizens should be encouraged to value personal responsibility and saving should become part of culture. The Chinese citizens are encouraged to save instead of live in credit like the west.

Interest and speculation..you dont need.

Autarky is a dead end road. The global economy is interdependent. A State does not need to have autarky to be independent.

Increasing debt to unsustainable levels is unsustainable in my opinion. Even for the reserve currency status holder.

Economic Independence is of paramount importance for a healthy State. Right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS-oyLm-_fg


Hitler said: "Socialism! That is an unfortunate word altogether... What does socialism really mean? If people have something to eat and their pleasures, then they have their socialism."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany


The economic policies of the Third Reich were in the beginning the brainchildren of Schacht, who assumed office as president of the central bank under Hitler in 1933, and became finance minister in the following year.
-


In August 1934 Hitler appointed Schacht as Germany's Minister of Economics. Schacht supported public-works (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_works) programs, most notably the construction of autobahnen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn) (highways) to attempt to alleviate unemployment – policies which had been instituted in Germany by von Schleicher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_von_Schleicher)'s government in late 1932, and had in turn influenced Roosevelt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt)'s policies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal). He also introduced the "New Plan", Germany's attempt to achieve economic "autarky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autarky)", in September 1934.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

Our New Plan will be possible when we get a new true Basket Reserve, new regulations on speculation. Four delivery points for global resources to ensure fair pricing for all global citizens.

Economic independence of each nation of the global community will be important in the Asian Century. Win-win trade and assistance without political strings will replace IMF debt for poverty striken nations. Not all nations are equal so new International Law will need to be writen to protect nations at risk of falling into debt. Managment of a nation will fall to an independent body, that will replace the UN, and the nation will be managed by the independent body until it is returned to surplus.

I guess for Statism to work it must be global? All nations must be on board. All States working in concert. The States in concert with the Business Community. Clear laws. A clear New Plan for the Global Community to protect all global citizens from the coming apocalypse of unsustainable endless growth and the mounting avalanche of crushing debt. Global Statism is the only way forward really. A conservative emergency Statism to ensure that the transition to prosperity has a safe a steady beginning.

New International Law is due. The current International Laws are McCarthyist and a relic of the Cold War era.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesday_Book

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Juris_Civilis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Code

This is the dawn of a new era. A modern New Plan and modern International Law that applies to all nations is not only due but needed.

China and USA will work togther to agree to fair new Global Law and the Asian Century will be safe and prosperous for all. There will need to be three levels of law. One Global and final. East/West domestic. And National Law. No nation can have any National Law that is not compatible with HemiLaw?( the globe will be split into two ) or Global Law. Cultural humility is important.

See China would actually like to sue nations for loss of future profit if you include them.. Right? China is a dream rival. China and USA healthy rivalry and chivalric cooperation will ensure a fantasy Asian Century. A global conservative statist duopoly seems to be on the way. The Asian Century will rule. Its a Red Dawn I tell ya.



"The whole problem had been solved in one instant, as if by magic.... My dear friends, if I had stated publicly eight or nine years ago: 'In seven or eight years the problem of how to provide work for the unemployed will be solved, and the problem then will be where to find workers,' I should have harmed my cause. Every one would have declared: 'The man is mad. It is useless to talk to him, much less to support him. Nobody should vote for him. He is a fantastic creature.' Today, however, all this has come true. Today, the only question for us is where to find workers. That, my fellow countrymen, is the blessing which work brings.

Work alone can create new work; money cannot create work. Work alone can create values, values with which to reward those who work. The work of one man makes it possible for another to live and continue to work. And when we have mobilized the working capacity of our people to its utmost, each individual worker will receive more and more of the world's goods.

We have incorporated seven million unemployed into our economic system; we have transformed another six millions from part-time into full-time workers; we are even working overtime." - Hitler



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6iXqWKQFFE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXzXL1YT1_k

[The Sage of Main Street]

I can carry a tune for a long while until it gets too heavy, but I doubt I'll get tired of humming
that little baby. Surprised you didn't conjure up a rhyming tune that included the zionists' favorite

word goy with say ploy. Thanks.

Mel Brooks provided the Swishy Swastikers all they need by composing "Springtime for Hitler."

Israel Is Our Shield

[The Sage of Main Street]

Rules for Radicals is a 101 title used by every activist movement, including the Tea Party, since the 1960s. It's got nothing to do with taking over government, nothing to do with forging a sinister Marxist pariah state. Hell, cons wouldn't even know about it were it not the basis of Hillary's doctoral thesis.

He's just another President, in the pockets of the same kingmakers that have inducted and brought down every one of his predecessors over the last 150 years. Details of his personal life are irrelevant when we accept that, ultimately, he ain't running the show.

He's a busboy for bankers and a lawn jockey for the Limousine Gang.

[The Sage of Main Street]

You are aware the Protocols was just a cheap plagiarization stitched together by the Okhrana to incite illiterate Russian peasants to pogroms, right? They debunked it back in the 1920s.

Actually, its chief focus was to discredit democratic movements. The ruling classes couldn't come right out and say, "What's best for the 1% is best for all you worthless little people too." So they had to discredit freedom as a plot run by omnipotent Jews who would take over any attempt for unprivileged citizens to stick up for themselves.

[The Sage of Main Street]

I never heard of the guy. He really wants to increase debt to unsustainable levels?

Economic Independence should be a top priority for the State. For its own sake. As well as for the public. Economic Independence is a matter of National Security.

Citizens should be encouraged to value personal responsibility and saving should become part of culture. The Chinese citizens are encouraged to save instead of live in credit like the west.

Interest and speculation..you dont need.

Autarky is a dead end road. The global economy is interdependent. A State does not need to have autarky to be independent.

Increasing debt to unsustainable levels is unsustainable in my opinion. Even for the reserve currency status holder.

Economic Independence is of paramount importance for a healthy State. Right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS-oyLm-_fg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany


-


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

Our New Plan will be possible when we get a new true Basket Reserve, new regulations on speculation. Four delivery points for global resources to ensure fair pricing for all global citizens.

Economic independence of each nation of the global community will be important in the Asian Century. Win-win trade and assistance without political strings will replace IMF debt for poverty striken nations. Not all nations are equal so new International Law will need to be writen to protect nations at risk of falling into debt. Managment of a nation will fall to an independent body, that will replace the UN, and the nation will be managed by the independent body until it is returned to surplus.

I guess for Statism to work it must be global? All nations must be on board. All States working in concert. The States in concert with the Business Community. Clear laws. A clear New Plan for the Global Community to protect all global citizens from the coming apocalypse of unsustainable endless growth and the mounting avalanche of crushing debt. Global Statism is the only way forward really. A conservative emergency Statism to ensure that the transition to prosperity has a safe a steady beginning.

New International Law is due. The current International Laws are McCarthyist and a relic of the Cold War era.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesday_Book

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Juris_Civilis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Code

This is the dawn of a new era. A modern New Plan and modern International Law that applies to all nations is not only due but needed.

China and USA will work togther to agree to fair new Global Law and the Asian Century will be safe and prosperous for all. There will need to be three levels of law. One Global and final. East/West domestic. And National Law. No nation can have any National Law that is not compatible with HemiLaw?( the globe will be split into two ) or Global Law. Cultural humility is important.

See China would actually like to sue nations for loss of future profit if you include them.. Right? China is a dream rival. China and USA healthy rivalry and chivalric cooperation will ensure a fantasy Asian Century. A global conservative statist duopoly seems to be on the way. The Asian Century will rule. Its a Red Dawn I tell ya.



"The whole problem had been solved in one instant, as if by magic.... My dear friends, if I had stated publicly eight or nine years ago: 'In seven or eight years the problem of how to provide work for the unemployed will be solved, and the problem then will be where to find workers,' I should have harmed my cause. Every one would have declared: 'The man is mad. It is useless to talk to him, much less to support him. Nobody should vote for him. He is a fantastic creature.' Today, however, all this has come true. Today, the only question for us is where to find workers. That, my fellow countrymen, is the blessing which work brings.

Work alone can create new work; money cannot create work. Work alone can create values, values with which to reward those who work. The work of one man makes it possible for another to live and continue to work. And when we have mobilized the working capacity of our people to its utmost, each individual worker will receive more and more of the world's goods.

We have incorporated seven million unemployed into our economic system; we have transformed another six millions from part-time into full-time workers; we are even working overtime." - Hitler



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6iXqWKQFFE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXzXL1YT1_k





Prescott Bush really got his money's worth when he financed dear Adolf. A few more Bought Buttboys of the Bosses and the world will never have to worry about overpopulation again.

[Libhater]

Exactly.

..and let's not overlook the Cloward-Pivens strategy which is essentially the administration's playbook for purposely wrecking the country.
Overwhelm the govt with regulations and rules in order to collapse it from the inside.

Exactumundo!!!!!!!!!!!

Besides the minions/lackeys of the Cloward/Piven strategy to wreck America, we also have a couple others to note.

There is of course the followers of Saul Alinsky like the Hilabeast and obama who are currently doing a kock up job of wrecking America.

Then of course you have Saul Alinsky himself who gave us those 8 steps from the OP to wreck America coupled with his 'Rules for Radicals'.

Then you have the tens of hundreds who believe in John Maynard Keynes who thought that the best way to prosperity is to tax and spend.

Woops...'tax and spend', isn't that the lefty solution to all of our economic problems? How's that working out for America at the present time?

[The Sage of Main Street]

Exactumundo!!!!!!!!!!!Besides the minions/lackeys of the Cloward/Piven strategy to wreck America, we also have a couple others to note.There are of course the followers of Saul Alinsky like the Hilabeast and obama who are currently doing a kock up job of wrecking America.Then you have the tens of hundreds who believe in John Maynard Keynes who thought that the best way to prosperity is to tax and spend.Woops...'tax and spend', isn't that the lefty solution to all of our economic problems? How's that working out for America at the present time?

Better than the Wall Street pigsty's "loot and scoot" oinkonomics.

[Gerrard Winstanley]

Exactumundo!!!!!!!!!!!

Besides the minions/lackeys of the Cloward/Piven strategy to wreck America, we also have a couple others to note.

There is of course the followers of Saul Alinsky like the Hilabeast and obama who are currently doing a kock up job of wrecking America.

Then of course you have Saul Alinsky himself who gave us those 8 steps from the OP to wreck America coupled with his 'Rules for Radicals'.

Then you have the tens of hundreds who believe in John Maynard Keynes who thought that the best way to prosperity is to tax and spend.

Woops...'tax and spend', isn't that the lefty solution to all of our economic problems? How's that working out for America at the present time?
None of the Rules for Radicals can be employed as public policy. But whatever Obuffoon's closeted intentions, when the corporate establishment isn't feeding him talking points through a teleprompter, I wish him luck with them.