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Bob
02-13-2014, 12:32 AM
http://allenbwest.com/2014/02/michael-behenna-wins-parole/

Michael Behenna wins parole!By Allen West (http://allenbwest.com/author/allen/)

February 12, 2014


In what has to be a true miracle, Army 1LT Michael Behenna has won parole. Apparently he was notified that his clemency request was denied but the parole request was granted.Michael was serving a 15-year sentence for unpremeditated murder of a known terrorist in Iraq. His trial and sentencing had created a firestorm and grassroots movement. I went to Ft. Leavenworth to speak at a rally on his behalf and have met his mother and father on several occasions.
Congratulations to the Behenna family; Michael is coming home. Michael, God has rewarded you for your faith as he heard yours and many others’ prayers. Next we have to get justice for 1LT Clint Lorance.

Peter1469
02-13-2014, 07:14 AM
1LT Behenna was charged with premeditated murder (http://newsok.com/michael-behenna-wins-parole/article/3932953) (of an al Qaeda terrorist). He claimed it was self defense but was found guilty of unpremeditated murder and sentenced to 25 years in jail and dismissal from the army.

25 years is a very long time for unpremeditated murder. I don't know what facts were presented at court-martial, but his self defense case must have fallen apart.

Montoya
02-13-2014, 12:37 PM
At least his right to own guns has been stripped away :)

Peter1469
02-13-2014, 01:17 PM
At least his right to own guns has been stripped away :)

Why would that concern you?

Montoya
02-13-2014, 02:36 PM
Why would that concern you?

Because he is a murderer and a disgrace.

Captain Obvious
02-13-2014, 02:38 PM
Why would that concern you?

WARNING !

Agenda Alert!

Peter1469
02-13-2014, 02:47 PM
Because he is a murderer and a disgrace. Is he? The man he killed was a known al Qaeda terrorist. At the time of his death, the US was still at war with al Qaeda. Yet the court applied standards outside of the conduct of land warfare to his case. Care to respond to that?

On Edit: I would also like your bona fides, if you are going to call an American Army officer a disgrace you better have the standing to do so.

nathanbforrest45
02-13-2014, 02:49 PM
Is he?

The man he killed was a known al Qaeda terrorist.

At the time of his death, the US was still at war with al Qaeda.

Yet the court applied standards outside of the conduct of land warfare to his case. Care to respond to that?


Lets pretend I am another poster

Can you explain why Paulie would sue the president and allow George Bush to be in the same room as Palin?

Peter1469
02-13-2014, 02:58 PM
lets pretend i am another poster

can you explain why paulie would sue the president and allow george bush to be in the same room as palin?

wtf?

Captain Obvious
02-13-2014, 02:58 PM
Lets pretend I am another poster

A banned one?

Captain Obvious
02-13-2014, 02:59 PM
wtf?

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/picture/2072211/81676033.jpg

Codename Section
02-13-2014, 03:05 PM
Is he? The man he killed was a known al Qaeda terrorist. At the time of his death, the US was still at war with al Qaeda. Yet the court applied standards outside of the conduct of land warfare to his case. Care to respond to that?

On Edit: I would also like your bona fides, if you are going to call an American Army officer a disgrace you better have the standing to do so.


Fuck yeh. When people were talking shit about Kokesh's stance on the military I was like, I'll decide as a combat vet marine whether or not he's an embarassment to me.

Civilians don't get to tell me what is honorable for military members.

Bob
02-13-2014, 03:25 PM
Looks like he came from a good family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna

Michael Behenna was born on May 18, 1983 to Scott Behenna, an FBI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation) intelligence analyst and retired Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_State_Bureau_of_Investigation) special agent, and Vicki Behenna,[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna#cite_note-6) a federal prosecutor who had worked on the Oklahoma City bombing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing) case. He attended Will Rogers Elementary School (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Will_Rogers_Elementary_School&action=edit&redlink=1) where he met his future girlfriend, Shannon Wahl.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna#cite_note-7)
Behenna graduated from Edmond North High School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmond_North_High_School) in 2002 and, after witnessing the September 11th attacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11th_attacks), expressed interest in enlisting in the U.S. Army, wanting to "fight terrorists" and "work his way up from the bottom".[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna#cite_note-latimes1-1) His parents persuaded him to instead go to college and enroll in an Army ROTC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROTC) program. Behenna chose University of Central Oklahoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Central_Oklahoma) and graduated in 2006, with a degree in General Studies minoring in history and military science.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna#cite_note-8)

Bob
02-13-2014, 03:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna

Michael Behenna's appeal, stating that the government failed to disclose Brady material (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_material) in the form of the prosecution's forensic analyst Herbert MacDonell's statements to the defense that his analysis of the wounds corroborated Behenna's accounting of the shooting as being self-defense, was rejected in a 3–2 decision by the United States Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Armed_Force s) on July 5, 2012.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna#cite_note-latimes2-2) The defense contends that Dr. MacDonnell had told the prosecution that Behenna's story was consistent with the forensic evidence and that they needed to alert the defense of that fact under the ruling of the Supreme Court in Brady v. Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_v._Maryland). MacDonnell also told defense attorney Zimmerman that he would have "made a great witness for him." Zimmerman confronted the prosecution about any potential information they might possess about Behenna, but the prosecution denied being aware of any. Upon post-trial evidence of these series of events, a former senator, several former U.S. Attorneys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorneys) and States Attorneys General, law professors, and lawyers wrote to theSecretary of the United States Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_the_United_States_Army), Pete Geren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Geren), asking for a retrial.[1] (http://defendmichael.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/1605688431_lawyers_letter.pdf) After learning that the prosecution had not passed on his information, Dr. MacDonnell also signed several motions for mistrial. After reviewing the defense's initial motion, a military judge declined to declare a mistrial, but a military panel reviewed the case and decided to reduce Behenna's sentence to 20 years.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna#cite_note-apnewtrial-13) After the Behenna family appealed to the Army's Clemency and Parole Board, Michael Behenna's sentence was again reduced, this time to 15 years.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna#cite_note-14) His second clemency request was denied in December 2010.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna#cite_note-15) On February 12, 2014, another request for clemency was denied, but Behenna was granted parole, with a scheduled release date of March 14, 2014.

The Sage of Main Street
02-13-2014, 05:36 PM
http://allenbwest.com/2014/02/michael-behenna-wins-parole/

Michael Behenna wins parole!

By Allen West (http://allenbwest.com/author/allen/)

February 12, 2014


In what has to be a true miracle, Army 1LT Michael Behenna has won parole. Apparently he was notified that his clemency request was denied but the parole request was granted.Michael was serving a 15-year sentence for unpremeditated murder of a known terrorist in Iraq. His trial and sentencing had created a firestorm and grassroots movement. I went to Ft. Leavenworth to speak at a rally on his behalf and have met his mother and father on several occasions.
Congratulations to the Behenna family; Michael is coming home. Michael, God has rewarded you for your faith as he heard yours and many others’ prayers. Next we have to get justice for 1LT Clint Lorance.

I hope they do the same in the formerly Great Britain.

Bob
02-13-2014, 07:57 PM
I hope they do the same in the formerly Great Britain.

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I don't get the meaning.

Peter1469
02-13-2014, 08:38 PM
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I don't get the meaning.

The UK has also jailed "war criminals."

Newpublius
02-13-2014, 09:09 PM
1LT Behenna was charged with premeditated murder (http://newsok.com/michael-behenna-wins-parole/article/3932953) (of an al Qaeda terrorist). He claimed it was self defense but was found guilty of unpremeditated murder and sentenced to 25 years in jail and dismissal from the army.

25 years is a very long time for unpremeditated murder. I don't know what facts were presented at court-martial, but his self defense case must have fallen apart.

The facts given in the case, the foundation of the conviction, truly should've given rise to a conviction for premeditated murder. Nevertheless, 'unpremeditated' is simply jargon for what we would just colloquially refer to as 2nd degree murder and 25 years is in the ballgame for a conviction of that nature.


I don't know what facts were presented at court-martial, but his self defense case must have fallen apart.

Well, yes, of course, just go to the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna (Behenna claimed that Mansur lunged at him....)

Those facts, as given, that's a murder conviction, one cannot summarily execute ANY prisoner.

Yesterday we discussed active belligerents and Behenna could've killed Mansur acting in active insurgency, no question.
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There is a secondary consideration here and that's the idiotic order to have Behenna's platoon, itself the target of the suspected violence, to release Mansur. In WWI, WWII, prisoners always wanted to get behind the lines as quickly as possible because there were many front line soldiers who begrudged the looming safety POWs would enjoy that they wouldn't be enjoying. Same basic principle here, the capture should lead to the detention and any release shouldn't have been performed through Behenna. That, to me, is a strong mitigating factor, BUT it doesn't excuse or justify the killing -- again, based on the facts the conviction was based upon.

Bob
02-13-2014, 09:58 PM
The UK has also jailed "war criminals."

Thanks for explaining the point.

Bob
02-13-2014, 10:10 PM
The facts given in the case, the foundation of the conviction, truly should've given rise to a conviction for premeditated murder. Nevertheless, 'unpremeditated' is simply jargon for what we would just colloquially refer to as 2nd degree murder and 25 years is in the ballgame for a conviction of that nature.



Well, yes, of course, just go to the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behenna (Behenna claimed that Mansur lunged at him....)

Those facts, as given, that's a murder conviction, one cannot summarily execute ANY prisoner.

Yesterday we discussed active belligerents and Behenna could've killed Mansur acting in active insurgency, no question.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is a secondary consideration here and that's the idiotic order to have Behenna's platoon, itself the target of the suspected violence, to release Mansur. In WWI, WWII, prisoners always wanted to get behind the lines as quickly as possible because there were many front line soldiers who begrudged the looming safety POWs would enjoy that they wouldn't be enjoying. Same basic principle here, the capture should lead to the detention and any release shouldn't have been performed through Behenna. That, to me, is a strong mitigating factor, BUT it doesn't excuse or justify the killing -- again, based on the facts the conviction was based upon.

Keep in mind that his defense was self defense and cited lunging at him as proof.

Codename Section
02-13-2014, 10:18 PM
An AQ terrorist is dead. Premeditated is the entire military experience. He should have gotten a pat on the back or a Nobel Peace Prize like the president when he kills people outside the Constitution.

The Sage of Main Street
02-14-2014, 02:29 PM
I don't get the meaning.

There was a British soldier who got ten years for killing a Tail Bunny prisoner.