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Cigar
03-03-2014, 10:32 AM
here’s a type of faux scandal that’s been happening … well, I haven’t exactly kept track, but it seems like there’s a new one every month or two. They all fit this pattern: President Obama does something that symbolically asserts his status as president, and the right-wing press gets outraged by how he’s “disrespecting” something-or-other related to the presidency. So, for example, in January, 2010 this photo caused FoxNation.com to ask whether Obama was “disrespecting the Oval Office” by putting his feet up on the antique desk.

http://weeklysift.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/20e04-cannon3.jpg

Of course, it didn’t take long to uncover similar photos of previous presidents, none of which had raised any particular outrage at the time. But everybody forgot again, and so we had an almost identical flap last September. “This just makes me furious,” one woman tweeted. “He was raised so badly.”


Other such “scandals” involve the First Lady: Did you know that Michelle had the audacity to wear an expensive gown to a recent state dinner, like first ladies have been doing, well, forever? Compare to this 2005 WaPo column in which Laura Bush is said to look “regal” — and that’s a compliment. Until 2009, the First Lady was supposed to look regal. Remember Jackie Kennedy? But when Michelle dresses up, she’s Marie Antoinette.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/10/article-2084579-0F661D2F00000578-546_306x372.jpg

Or remember last May when marines held umbrellas over President Obama (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/17/even-obamas-umbrellas-are-a-scandal-now/) and visiting Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan. Horrors! He’s treating our revered warriors like servants! How dare he! It was front-page news.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/files/2013/05/NY_NYP.jpg (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/17/even-obamas-umbrellas-are-a-scandal-now/)
http://freakoutnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bush_brella-218x250.jpg (http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/17/umbrella-gate-sarah-palin-most-americans-hold-their-own-umbrellas-except-for-every-other-president/)

Once again, it wasn’t too hard to find similar photos of previous presidents (http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/17/umbrella-gate-sarah-palin-most-americans-hold-their-own-umbrellas-except-for-every-other-president/), like this one of the first President Bush, which wasn’t front-page news — or any kind of outrage at all.


Even the Obamas’ Christmas cards became an issue (http://spydersden.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/fox-news-and-the-white-house-christmas-card/). This one, from 2011, disrespects the Christian holiday because it is secular and features the president’s dog:

http://spydersden.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/wh-christmas-card-2011.jpg?w=448&h=261 (http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/no-christmas-in-white-house-holiday-card.html)But this one, from the Bushes in 2005, is fine.
http://www.whitehouseholidays.com/whhimages/800/4446.jpg I could go on and on. Whenever President Obama acts like the President of the United States, or the Obamas act like the First Family, it just looks wrong to a lot of people.

So here’s the $64,000 question: Is that racist? It depends on what you think racist means. Conservatives will not only answer the question “No”, they’ll be insulted that you even raised it (and will probably launch into their canned everybody-who-disagrees-with-Obama-is-a-racist-to-you-people riff). That’s because conservatives have adopted a very restricted definition of racism: Racism is conscious hatred towards people of another race.


So, those white folks who didn’t even notice when Reagan’s or JFK’s feet were on the desk, but who see Obama’s and think “He was raised so badly.” — are they also secretly thinking “Who does that uppity nigger think he is, acting like he’s a real president or something?” Maybe a few here or there, but mostly no. They aren’t consciously hating Obama because he’s black. But they can’t look at a black president the same way they looked at the 43 white presidents. Things just look different when Obama does them.

What do you call that?


Lopez uses the word “racism” for most of the possible meanings, and differentiates with adjectives. Here are some of the ones he finds:




racism-as-hate. The most restrictive definition, and the most comforting for whites. “For the public at large, racism-as-hate provides self-protecting clarity: if racists are like those in the 1950s who screamed at black school children and burned crosses, then most everyone can safely conclude that they, at least, are not racists. … Since conservatives on the Supreme Court adopted a malice conception of racism in 1979, when using this approach the Court has rejected every claim of discrimination against nonwhites brought before it.”
structural or institutional racism. This is racial injustice that seems to be the fault of nobody in particular, because it’s embedded in the way society works. Vicious cycles (like poverty leading to dysfunctional behavior which leads back to poverty) may trace back to past sins like slavery or Jim Crow, but now they are self-replicating. “Structural racism is racism without racists. All that said, precisely because institutional racism implies a need to change society, it was rejected long ago by conservatives, including those on the Supreme Court who repudiated this understanding of racism in the early 1970s.”
implicit bias. This is the it-just-looks-different response I have been describing, or the kind that shows up in Implicit Association Test (https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html) you can take online.
commonsense racism. “The social world through which we move reflects centuries of racism that extends right up to the present. But this is hard to grasp in its particulars. Instead, we see clearly only the results, and with the underlying causes hidden, we tend to accept the extant world as a testament to the implacable truth of racial stereotypes.” The commonsense racists “are not hate-filled bigots but decent folks who see racial injustice as a normal feature of society. … For many, it simply seems ‘true,’ an unquestioned matter of commonsense, that blacks prefer welfare to work, that undocumented immigrants breed crime, and that Islam spawns violence.”
strategic racism. New appeals to racial prejudice and new rationalizations for racial injustice don’t create themselves. When the old racial manipulations stop working, somebody figures out new ones. “Strategic racism refers to purposeful efforts to use racial animus as leverage to gain material wealth, political power, or heightened social standing. … [B]ecause strategic racism is strategic, it is not fundamentally about race. … [S]trategic racists act out of avarice rather than animus.”

http://weeklysift.com/2014/02/17/what-should-racism-mean/


...and now the typical outrage.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 10:34 AM
It's just politics. Why are Americans always so sensitive to verbal slights? Man up, chap.

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 10:35 AM
For a minute there I thought this was one of Germanicus 's threads.

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 10:36 AM
It's just politics. Why are Americans always so sensitive to verbal slights? Man up, chap.

It's called "playing the race card".

It's a one-sided card also.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 10:40 AM
It's called "playing the race card".

It's a one-sided card also.

We fight all the time and it's brilliant. Americans used to have more guts than this. Adams and Jefferson, ironically two of my favourite Yanks, had the best political opines about the other that has ever existed in your history. Being called a hermaphrodite is so much worse than being compared, aptly, to a French monarch.

And wittier. :)

KC
03-03-2014, 10:41 AM
http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/454325/

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 10:42 AM
We fight all the time and it's brilliant. Americans used to have more guts than this. Adams and Jefferson, ironically two of my favourite Yanks, had the best political opines about the other that has ever existed in your history. Being called a hermaphrodite is so much worse than being compared, aptly, to a French monarch.

And wittier. :)

This is what progressiveism does to a nation.

Be careful what you wish for.

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 10:43 AM
http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/454325/

http://www.kwasistudios.com/images/blog/1yr/homer-woohoo.jpg

Cigar
03-03-2014, 10:44 AM
It's just politics. Why are Americans always so sensitive to verbal slights? Man up, chap.

Remember that ... :wink:

If you forget ... I'm sure someone will remind you that YOU said that.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 10:44 AM
http://niketalk.com/content/type/61/id/454325/

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3e/9e/96/3e9e96925444d134f96df6c4cc8eea36.jpg

Polecat
03-03-2014, 10:45 AM
I don't think it is racism. I think that people genuinely don't like the guy for a ton of real reasons that have nothing at all to do with race. Picking on petty shit is too often the go to tactic for the biased media anymore. That is why I don't watch it. I never cared for Clinton but I thought it was more embarrassing that the republicans tried to oust him for getting a BJ than the BJ was. I would have had a ton of respect for him if he would have just said, "I refuse to discuss my private affairs with the public." But he fucked that up too.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 10:47 AM
Remember that ... :wink:

If you forget ... I'm sure someone will remind you that YOU said that.

Write it down then have it notorised. We live to argue and are honest about it.

KC
03-03-2014, 10:47 AM
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3e/9e/96/3e9e96925444d134f96df6c4cc8eea36.jpg


You sure showed me.

http://spgspgspg.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/vlcsnap1532599cp3.jpg

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 10:48 AM
Bigotry is intolerance of other races.

Racism is hatred toward those other races.

Pretty simple.

Peter1469
03-03-2014, 10:52 AM
America should refuse to be distracted by fake issues such as the one presented in the OP.

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 10:55 AM
America should refuse to be distracted by fake issues such as the one presented in the OP.

It's the exact opposite - we create problems out of non-issues.

Mister D
03-03-2014, 10:55 AM
Another thread about race from the race obsessed Cigar? Astonishing.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 10:58 AM
I see the biggest problem for some people with Racism, is that it's up front and in the bigot face and won't go away like it's told to.

Yes Ladies and Gentlemen, it ain't going away.

It's going to be two inches from your nose and telling you to go Fuck yourselves if you don't like it.

Intolerance to Bigots are now your way of life.

No if you don't like intolerance to Bigots, your only choice is to do something about it. :grin: Please :wink:

Polecat
03-03-2014, 10:59 AM
Another thread about race from the race obsessed Cigar? Astonishing.

Sometimes I wonder if he just plain don't like white folk.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:00 AM
Another thread about race from the race obsessed Cigar? Astonishing.

You don't like it ... do something about it. :wink: I dare you.

According to Forum Rules, this is the section for it.

Mister D
03-03-2014, 11:01 AM
Sometimes I wonder if he just plain don't like white folk.

I don't. It's clear he harbors a great deal of resentment.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:01 AM
Sometimes I wonder if he just plain don't like white folk.

Apparently you assume All Bigots are White ... why is that?

Mister D
03-03-2014, 11:02 AM
You don't like it ... do something about it. :wink: I dare you.

According to Forum Rules, this is the section for it.

Do what? We're all watching you make a fool of yourself. :laugh: You're doing the real racists a favor but you're just too stupid to understand that.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 11:03 AM
I find it incredibly racist to support a president's war mongering and global spying just because the bloke is considered black and of the correct party. When Bush did these same things Democrats wouldn't shut their cakeholes over it, and now they're as quiet as church mice.

This is why the whole rest of the world no longer finds you credible.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:03 AM
I don't. It's clear he harbors a great deal of resentment.

Me ... resentment ... why would YOU say that?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608053775883110853&pid=1.7

Polecat
03-03-2014, 11:05 AM
Apparently you assume All Bigots are White ... why is that?

We don't have the baggage to excuse belligerent behavior?

Mister D
03-03-2014, 11:05 AM
Me ... resentment ... why would YOU say that?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608053775883110853&pid=1.7

6194

Are they waiting to take a picture with the Obamas? :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:06 AM
I find it incredibly racist to support a president's war mongering and global spying just because the bloke is considered black and of the correct party. When Bush did these same things Democrats wouldn't shut their cakeholes over it, and now they're as quiet as church mice.

This is why the whole rest of the world no longer finds you credible.

Apparently you're not current on American News :rofl:

The only People DOING anything in Washington about Global Spying and Ending Wars are Democrats.

Didn't you get the Memo ... Republicans are DONE for the remaining 10 months of the Year.

It's time you get Educated on American Politics

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 11:07 AM
Me ... resentment ... why would YOU say that?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608053775883110853&pid=1.7


It is this sort of lowbrow primary school behaviour in a debate which is why we correctly assess that the world is in terrible danger of being overrun by idiots. It neither answers the question or presents a posit. It is idiocy wrapped in a sanguine, yet sterile, package, and unfortunately those who subscribe to this sort of shallow thinking own most of the world's weapons.

Huzzah we're at the mercy of chav humourists in control of the bomb.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 11:07 AM
Apparently you're not current on American News :rofl:

The only People DOING anything in Washington about Global Spying and Ending Wars are Democrats.

Didn't you get the Memo ... Republicans are DONE for the remaining 10 months of the Year.

It's time you get Educated on American Politics


You're entirely wrong.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:08 AM
6194

Are they waiting to take a picture with the Obamas? :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Yes they are ...:smiley_ROFLMAO:

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/12/04/ap988112847782_wide-5756fdcb89f38a53ae88f3901eeb6e8353722fde-s6-c30.jpg

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:09 AM
You're entirely wrong.

I'll assume your FACTS are Forthcoming :laugh:

Rebel Son
03-03-2014, 11:09 AM
Remember that ... :wink:

If you forget ... I'm sure someone will remind you that YOU said that.

Who are you really, Jessie or Al? Race baiting again to get somebody riled up?

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:10 AM
Does anyone here notice how quickly some people get distracted from Racism :laugh:

Experiment Validated :wink:

nathanbforrest45
03-03-2014, 11:11 AM
RACISM

Saying anything bad about minorities no matter how truthful the statement may be.

Mister D
03-03-2014, 11:13 AM
Yes they are ...:smiley_ROFLMAO:

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/12/04/ap988112847782_wide-5756fdcb89f38a53ae88f3901eeb6e8353722fde-s6-c30.jpg

How's that black unemplyment rate after your big victory? :smiley_ROFLMAO: We won! We won! Yeah, you sure did.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:13 AM
Who are you really, Jessie or Al? Race baiting again to get somebody riled up?

I'm far worse than Jessie or Al ... I don't use bait, just a bare hook :laugh:

You see ... to get the truly ignorant riled up ... you don't need much bait :wink:

Mister D
03-03-2014, 11:14 AM
Does anyone here notice how quickly some people get distracted from Racism :laugh:

Experiment Validated :wink:

Translation: "I got my ass handed to me again." :wink:

Polecat
03-03-2014, 11:15 AM
I find it incredibly racist to support a president's war mongering and global spying just because the bloke is considered black and of the correct party. When Bush did these same things Democrats wouldn't shut their cakeholes over it, and now they're as quiet as church mice.

This is why the whole rest of the world no longer finds you credible.

I was born & raised here but I am with the world on this note. Our government has become a wreck and our people are too self absorbed to do anything about it. The Donkey Elephant shell game has rendered us impotent.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:15 AM
How's that black unemplyment rate after your big victory? :smiley_ROFLMAO: We won! We won! Yeah, you sure did.

It's been Zero .., hows yours :laugh:

Mister D
03-03-2014, 11:17 AM
It's been Zero .., hows yours :laugh:

Is it? Last I checked it was double digits. Granted, you can't all play basketball. :smiley_ROFLMAO:Have you tried rapping?

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 11:18 AM
I'll assume your FACTS are Forthcoming :laugh:

Were you aware the it was the Obama administration's appointees who created this problem? Were you also aware that it was his appointees who wished to skin alive the three men who alerted the world? Were you even remotely watching as Rand Paul was made fun of for the last three years as he tried to do something about these things?

Allow me to tell you that the rest of the known world was not hiding with our heads beneath the blankets. We watched as Assange, Manning, and Snowden were hunted, vilified, and crucified by your political figures whose own personal cowardice knows no bounds.

The Executive Branch controls the bureaucracy and even a primary student in a foreign land knows that with a signing of his pen or a simple phone call these policies would change in the blink of an eye. The Executive branch is headed by a Democrat so for all your they're "the only ones doing anything" posit, it's entirely false and worse yet a slap in the face of truth.

Your country has gone too far and if the "Democrats" truly wish to stop the aggression it should start with the head Democrat in charge who can do so immediately.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:18 AM
RACISM

Saying anything bad about minorities no matter how truthful the statement may be.

you left out the most important part ...

Face to Face ... in person and in the Light of day. :grin:

Do that and you have my respect.

BTW ... what does Minority and Racism have to do with this Thread?

Did you read the first post? Who is the Minority?

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 11:28 AM
you left out the most important part ...

Face to Face ... in person and in the Light of day. :grin:

Do that and you have my respect.

BTW ... what does Minority and Racism have to do with this Thread?

Did you read the first post? Who is the Minority?

So a black guy can beat up a white guy just for having an honest opinion?

And here we have an example of bigotry.

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 11:29 AM
Sometimes I wonder if he just plain don't like white folk.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGBw8jS3sMw

The Sage of Main Street
03-03-2014, 11:29 AM
The race card is a Joker. When little boys start trying to play adult card games, they make a Joker have any value they want it to have.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:31 AM
So a black guy can beat up a white guy just for having an honest opinion?

And here we have an example of bigotry.

So White Guy can Shoot and Kill a Black Guy for waring a Hoodie and playing a radio loud ... and here we have an example for Racism.

Peter1469
03-03-2014, 11:32 AM
You mean, much to the media's dismay, a Hispanic guy.... :sad:


So White Guy can Shoot and Kill a Black Guy for waring a Hoodie and playing a radio loud ... and here we have an example for Racism.

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 11:32 AM
So White Guy can Shoot and Kill a Black Guy for waring a Hoodie and playing a radio loud ... and here we have an example for Racism.

Now it's a Zimmerman thread?

LOL - damage control fail.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:32 AM
Were you aware the it was the Obama administration's appointees who created this problem? Were you also aware that it was his appointees who wished to skin alive the three men who alerted the world? Were you even remotely watching as Rand Paul was made fun of for the last three years as he tried to do something about these things?

Allow me to tell you that the rest of the known world was not hiding with our heads beneath the blankets. We watched as Assange, Manning, and Snowden were hunted, vilified, and crucified by your political figures whose own personal cowardice knows no bounds.

The Executive Branch controls the bureaucracy and even a primary student in a foreign land knows that with a signing of his pen or a simple phone call these policies would change in the blink of an eye. The Executive branch is headed by a Democrat so for all your they're "the only ones doing anything" posit, it's entirely false and worse yet a slap in the face of truth.

Your country has gone too far and if the "Democrats" truly wish to stop the aggression it should start with the head Democrat in charge who can do so immediately.

When did you land on Plant Earth? January 20th 2009?

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 11:34 AM
So White Guy can Shoot and Kill a Black Guy for waring a Hoodie and playing a radio loud ... and here we have an example for Racism.

He is now resorted to trolling his own topic. Brilliant!

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:34 AM
Now it's a Zimmerman thread?

LOL - damage control fail.

Did Zimmerman get Shot for playing a radio loud?

Did Zimmerman get Shot for waring a Hoodie?

How is this Thread about Zimmerman other than your Hero Worship :laugh:

Remember ... YOU brought him up, no one else.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:36 AM
He is now resorted to trolling his own topic. Brilliant!

I'm answering the responses, haven't you mastered Reading yet?

If you care to get back on topic, then try doing it yourself first, before biting about someone else

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 11:37 AM
I'm answering the responses, haven't you mastered Reading yet?

If you care to get back on topic, then try doing it yourself first, before biting about someone else

He's downloading Chrome translator into cockney as we speak.

Mister D
03-03-2014, 11:37 AM
I love when Cigar thinks he's holding his own. :laugh:

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 11:37 AM
Did Zimmerman get Shot for playing a radio loud?

Did Zimmerman get Shot for waring a Hoodie?

How is this Thread about Zimmerman other than your Hero Worship :laugh:

Remember ... YOU brought him up, no one else.

What was that you were saying about Bengazi again?

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 11:38 AM
I love when Cigar thinks he's holding his own. :laugh:

Jerry Lewis ain't got nothing on him.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 11:39 AM
When did you land on Plant Earth? January 20th 2009?

It would be nice if you bothered to read the Snowden report and then you might have some background on when the worst of the offences took place and who was in charge of your government at the time.

Still, I see you have no understanding of how quickly this may all be resolved by your chief executive officer, ie "the President of the United States" with a pen.

For your edification, Congress funds government and writes the laws. The Executive branch executes them. If Obama wished he would simply fire a few people and change the rules of the programmes. He is a giant coward who acts as if he does not have this power, a constitutional scholar he is not, and throws it upon the fires of your Congress to do what he refuses.

Of course, he knows full well that they will continue to parlay and never do a thing about it. That's the beauty of passing the buck and partisan group think. You really believe that he'd love to do something about it all but can't. I'm not sure whether to laugh or weep at your poor education on the topic.

Polecat
03-03-2014, 11:41 AM
Did Zimmerman get Shot for playing a radio loud?

Did Zimmerman get Shot for waring a Hoodie?

How is this Thread about Zimmerman other than your Hero Worship :laugh:

Remember ... YOU brought him up, no one else.

Has it ever occurred to you that the racism might be between your ears? I hear about a white guy getting snuffed I don't get all up in arms cause one of my own has had his civil rights violated. I just figure the guy put himself in a situation he would have been better off to avoid. And that is most often the case.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:42 AM
I love when Cigar thinks he's holding his own. :laugh:

I Love it more when you think you're competing ... :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Can someone please show Mister D where he's at ... you know an Internet Forum :laugh:

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 11:43 AM
Has it ever occurred to you that the racism might be between your ears? I hear about a white guy getting snuffed I don't get all up in arms cause one of my own has had his civil rights violated. I just figure the guy put himself in a situation he would have been better off to avoid. And that is most often the case.

When white people get iced by non-whites, it doesn't count.

Don't worry, pretty soon we get to be the minority and hopefully all these rules will then apply to us.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 11:43 AM
Has it ever occurred to you that the racism might be between your ears? I hear about a white guy getting snuffed I don't get all up in arms cause one of my own has had his civil rights violated. I just figure the guy put himself in a situation he would have been better off to avoid. And that is most often the case.

... and there you have it folks ... the difference ... enough said.

Thank you for your contribution. :applause:

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 11:45 AM
I Love it more when you think you're competing ... :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Can someone please show Mister D where he's at ... you know an Internet Forum :laugh:

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Internet_b6df65_1012659.jpg

The Sage of Main Street
03-03-2014, 11:46 AM
Picking on petty shit is too often the go-to tactic for the biased media anymore. That is why I don't watch it. .

You don't watch them, but you copycat their ignorant use of "anymore" in a positive sentence and their equally uneducated use of media as a singular. They are Diploma Dumbo careerist ambitious imbeciles who have proved by their 6th-Grade English, and everything that follows from that defect, that they simply have no right to their jobs.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 11:48 AM
... and there you have it folks ... the difference ... enough said.

Thank you for your contribution. :applause:


I'm sure this was intended to propose something meaningful or at least be an object of humour, but I cannot fathom it. Perhaps this post is tantamount to modern art where we are all to deduce something from commercial tripe?

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 11:49 AM
I'm sure this was intended to propose something meaningful or at least be an object of humour, but I cannot fathom it. Perhaps this post is tantamount to modern art where we are all to deduce something from commercial tripe?

It means the point zoomed way below his radar.

... which is a relative statement all things considered.

Mister D
03-03-2014, 11:49 AM
I'm sure this was intended to propose something meaningful or at least be an object of humour, but I cannot fathom it. Perhaps this post is tantamount to modern art where we are all to deduce something from commercial tripe?

The poor boy mistakes his incoherence for wit.

Polecat
03-03-2014, 11:49 AM
You don't watch them, but you copycat their ignorant use of "anymore" in a positive sentence and their equally uneducated use of media as a singular. They are Diploma Dumbo careerist ambitious imbeciles who have proved by their 6th-Grade English, and everything that follows from that defect, that they simply have no right to their jobs.

Yeah, and I end sentences with at too. You should see my table manners.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 11:51 AM
You don't watch them, but you copycat their ignorant use of "anymore" in a positive sentence and their equally uneducated use of media as a singular. They are Diploma Dumbo careerist ambitious imbeciles who have proved by their 6th-Grade English, and everything that follows from that defect, that they simply have no right to their jobs.

So gallantly the biggest troll of them all arrived to troll a thread whose own originator no longer even understands what he wrote about to begin with.

I'm quite certain that the 1% of the world and nation have something to do with why Michelle Obama wears designer clothing.

Let us all watch and see.

Rebel Son
03-03-2014, 12:00 PM
I'm far worse than Jessie or Al ... I don't use bait, just a bare hook :laugh:

You see ... to get the truly ignorant riled up ... you don't need much bait :wink:

The only one riled up seems to be you. I would however add that the word "ignorant" seems to be a widely used word by blacks that they don't know the true meaning of. I assure you I'm quite aware of the facts.

The Sage of Main Street
03-03-2014, 12:28 PM
I see the biggest problem for some people with Racism, is that it's up front and in the bigot's face and won't go away like it's told to.

it ain't going away.

It's going to be two inches from your nose and telling you to go Fuck yourselves if you don't like it.

Intolerance to Bigots is now your way of life.

if you don't like intolerance to Bigots, your only choice is to do something about it. :grin: Please :wink:



We have yet begun to fight:

THE BATTLE OF BLOOD RIVER (South Africa, 1838)

Zulu strength: 10,000 to 15,000 warriors
White strength: 470 civilian settlers

Zulu dead: 3,000
White dead: Zero

Want a re-match?

The Sage of Main Street
03-03-2014, 12:34 PM
I Love it more when you think you're competing ... :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Can someone please show Mister D where he's at ... you know an Internet Forum :laugh:

The Internet is a dress rehearsal for the next Civil War.

The Sage of Main Street
03-03-2014, 12:41 PM
Yeah, and I end sentences with at too. You should see my table manners.
Tolerating the 6th Grade English of our self-appointed intellectual superiors is like being permissive about posters who think Dallas is the capital of Texas and Chicago is the capital of Illinois, or that Ronald Reagan had once been a Congressman.

Proud of your lazy and passive ignorance? Proud to be a dummy for the media's ventriloquists?

The Xl
03-03-2014, 12:52 PM
We have yet begun to fight:

THE BATTLE OF BLOOD RIVER (South Africa, 1838)

Zulu strength: 10,000 to 15,000 warriors
White strength: 470 civilian settlers

Zulu dead: 3,000
White dead: Zero

Want a re-match?

You need to stop drinking so early in the day.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:31 PM
The best thing about America and Guns ... is that Bullets can now go in either direction and in all directions and you'll never know who shot whom.

See there use to be a time when only one side had all the Guns ... well that's sure is a thing of the past. :laugh:

Mister D
03-03-2014, 01:33 PM
The best thing about America and Guns ... is that Bullets can now go in either direction and in all directions and you'll never know who shot whom.

See there use to be a time when only one side had all the Guns ... well that's sure is a thing of the past. :laugh:

You seem to prefer using them on yourselves. Carry on. :wink:

Peter1469
03-03-2014, 01:34 PM
Right. Samuel Colt said that God made man. I made man equal.


The best thing about America and Guns ... is that Bullets can now go in either direction and in all directions and you'll never know who shot whom.

See there use to be a time when only one side had all the Guns ... well that's sure is a thing of the past. :laugh:

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:34 PM
You seem to prefer using them on yourselves. Carry on. :wink:

Then what's your problem ... White People never Kill themselves :laugh:

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:35 PM
Right. Samuel Colt said that God made man. I made man equal.

Then why the Flight ... ?

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 01:35 PM
You seem to prefer using them on yourselves. Carry on. :wink:

http://www.ballpoint.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/petard2.jpeg

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 01:36 PM
The best thing about America and Guns ... is that Bullets can now go in either direction and in all directions and you'll never know who shot whom.

See there use to be a time when only one side had all the Guns ... well that's sure is a thing of the past. :laugh:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNJesjHyTU8eZm-NyCj-HekSQDyAVXbLtP9vJR9GninQdWUugmHY0VHi9h


Trolling his own thread, yet again. Hilarious, truly.

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 01:38 PM
Then what's your problem ... White People never Kill themselves :laugh:

You never know when to quit, LOL!

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/calexieff/6a00e39824440288330120a5dc96d4970b-.gif?t=1276038434

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:39 PM
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNJesjHyTU8eZm-NyCj-HekSQDyAVXbLtP9vJR9GninQdWUugmHY0VHi9h


Trolling his own thread, yet again. Hilarious, truly.


If you don't like the Topic, then don't change it.

... kinda like, if you don't have any Balls, don't unzip your Fly :laugh:

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 01:39 PM
The best thing about America and Guns ... is that Bullets can now go in either direction and in all directions and you'll never know who shot whom.

See there use to be a time when only one side had all the Guns ... well that's sure is a thing of the past. :laugh:

So just limit the guns to the gubmint and criminals.

Gotcha!

http://www.automizeit.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/guinness-brilliant.jpeg

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:40 PM
You never know when to quit, LOL!

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae12/calexieff/6a00e39824440288330120a5dc96d4970b-.gif?t=1276038434
http://www.alivepluspharmacy.co.nz/images/KY_Jelly-3.jpg

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:41 PM
here’s a type of faux scandal that’s been happening … well, I haven’t exactly kept track, but it seems like there’s a new one every month or two. They all fit this pattern: President Obama does something that symbolically asserts his status as president, and the right-wing press gets outraged by how he’s “disrespecting” something-or-other related to the presidency. So, for example, in January, 2010 this photo caused FoxNation.com to ask whether Obama was “disrespecting the Oval Office” by putting his feet up on the antique desk.

http://weeklysift.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/20e04-cannon3.jpg

Of course, it didn’t take long to uncover similar photos of previous presidents, none of which had raised any particular outrage at the time. But everybody forgot again, and so we had an almost identical flap last September. “This just makes me furious,” one woman tweeted. “He was raised so badly.”


Other such “scandals” involve the First Lady: Did you know that Michelle had the audacity to wear an expensive gown to a recent state dinner, like first ladies have been doing, well, forever? Compare to this 2005 WaPo column in which Laura Bush is said to look “regal” — and that’s a compliment. Until 2009, the First Lady was supposed to look regal. Remember Jackie Kennedy? But when Michelle dresses up, she’s Marie Antoinette.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/10/article-2084579-0F661D2F00000578-546_306x372.jpg

Or remember last May when marines held umbrellas over President Obama (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/17/even-obamas-umbrellas-are-a-scandal-now/) and visiting Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan. Horrors! He’s treating our revered warriors like servants! How dare he! It was front-page news.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/files/2013/05/NY_NYP.jpg (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/17/even-obamas-umbrellas-are-a-scandal-now/)

http://freakoutnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bush_brella-218x250.jpg (http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/17/umbrella-gate-sarah-palin-most-americans-hold-their-own-umbrellas-except-for-every-other-president/)


Once again, it wasn’t too hard to find similar photos of previous presidents (http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/17/umbrella-gate-sarah-palin-most-americans-hold-their-own-umbrellas-except-for-every-other-president/), like this one of the first President Bush, which wasn’t front-page news — or any kind of outrage at all.


Even the Obamas’ Christmas cards became an issue (http://spydersden.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/fox-news-and-the-white-house-christmas-card/). This one, from 2011, disrespects the Christian holiday because it is secular and features the president’s dog:

http://spydersden.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/wh-christmas-card-2011.jpg?w=448&h=261 (http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/no-christmas-in-white-house-holiday-card.html)But this one, from the Bushes in 2005, is fine.

http://www.whitehouseholidays.com/whhimages/800/4446.jpg
I could go on and on. Whenever President Obama acts like the President of the United States, or the Obamas act like the First Family, it just looks wrong to a lot of people.

So here’s the $64,000 question: Is that racist? It depends on what you think racist means. Conservatives will not only answer the question “No”, they’ll be insulted that you even raised it (and will probably launch into their canned everybody-who-disagrees-with-Obama-is-a-racist-to-you-people riff). That’s because conservatives have adopted a very restricted definition of racism: Racism is conscious hatred towards people of another race.


So, those white folks who didn’t even notice when Reagan’s or JFK’s feet were on the desk, but who see Obama’s and think “He was raised so badly.” — are they also secretly thinking “Who does that uppity nigger think he is, acting like he’s a real president or something?” Maybe a few here or there, but mostly no. They aren’t consciously hating Obama because he’s black. But they can’t look at a black president the same way they looked at the 43 white presidents. Things just look different when Obama does them.

What do you call that?


Lopez uses the word “racism” for most of the possible meanings, and differentiates with adjectives. Here are some of the ones he finds:




racism-as-hate. The most restrictive definition, and the most comforting for whites. “For the public at large, racism-as-hate provides self-protecting clarity: if racists are like those in the 1950s who screamed at black school children and burned crosses, then most everyone can safely conclude that they, at least, are not racists. … Since conservatives on the Supreme Court adopted a malice conception of racism in 1979, when using this approach the Court has rejected every claim of discrimination against nonwhites brought before it.”
structural or institutional racism. This is racial injustice that seems to be the fault of nobody in particular, because it’s embedded in the way society works. Vicious cycles (like poverty leading to dysfunctional behavior which leads back to poverty) may trace back to past sins like slavery or Jim Crow, but now they are self-replicating. “Structural racism is racism without racists. All that said, precisely because institutional racism implies a need to change society, it was rejected long ago by conservatives, including those on the Supreme Court who repudiated this understanding of racism in the early 1970s.”
implicit bias. This is the it-just-looks-different response I have been describing, or the kind that shows up in Implicit Association Test (https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html) you can take online.
commonsense racism. “The social world through which we move reflects centuries of racism that extends right up to the present. But this is hard to grasp in its particulars. Instead, we see clearly only the results, and with the underlying causes hidden, we tend to accept the extant world as a testament to the implacable truth of racial stereotypes.” The commonsense racists “are not hate-filled bigots but decent folks who see racial injustice as a normal feature of society. … For many, it simply seems ‘true,’ an unquestioned matter of commonsense, that blacks prefer welfare to work, that undocumented immigrants breed crime, and that Islam spawns violence.”
strategic racism. New appeals to racial prejudice and new rationalizations for racial injustice don’t create themselves. When the old racial manipulations stop working, somebody figures out new ones. “Strategic racism refers to purposeful efforts to use racial animus as leverage to gain material wealth, political power, or heightened social standing. … [B]ecause strategic racism is strategic, it is not fundamentally about race. … [S]trategic racists act out of avarice rather than animus.”

http://weeklysift.com/2014/02/17/what-should-racism-mean/


...and now the typical outrage.



Is the Original Subject too difficult for the OP :grin:

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 01:42 PM
I have to say that this thread is bloody brilliant in all its glorious irony. From beginning to end it never fails to show the banality which has usurped the American political intelligentsia. Bravo!


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3581/3844287305_c8715235b2_o.gif

Mister D
03-03-2014, 01:47 PM
Then what's your problem ... White People never Kill themselves :laugh:

My problem? Carry on, brotha. :afro:

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:48 PM
Racist photo's that are now appearing on Breitbart•com


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh0pfkqCcAAfebD.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh0pK8uCIAA7O3F.jpg

Gotta love those Big Tent Conservatives :laugh:

Sorry ... if the Internet isn't your Friend

https://twitter.com/Green_Footballs (http://twitter.com/Green_Footballs)

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:50 PM
My problem? Carry on, brotha. :afro:

Always have carried on ... with or without your permissions ... brotha :grin:

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 01:51 PM
http://www.threedonia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cam03.gif

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:51 PM
I have to say that this thread is bloody brilliant in all its glorious irony. From beginning to end it never fails to show the banality which has usurped the American political intelligentsia. Bravo!


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3581/3844287305_c8715235b2_o.gif

You're free to Logon to another site if you like ... say like a Brit Site.

Mister D
03-03-2014, 01:52 PM
Always have carried on ... with or without your permissions ... brotha :grin:

Smoke some niggaz, yo! :laugh:

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 01:53 PM
You're free to Logon to another site if you like ... say like a Brit Site.

I could do, yeh, but that wouldn't be nearly as fun as watching Americans degrade themselves. :D

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:54 PM
Smoke some niggaz, yo! :laugh:


Looks like you're admitting defeat ... no place to go but between your own legs.

Can't engage in the thread so this is how cowards handle defeat?

Mister D
03-03-2014, 01:55 PM
Looks like you're admitting defeat ... no place to go but between your own legs.

Can't engage in the thread so this is how cowards handle defeat?

What? :laugh: You seem a little punch drunk. Ah, no worries. You people always use the spray and pray method anyway. Proceed.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 01:56 PM
http://www.opednews.com/populum/cachedimages/s_500_popcrunch_com_0_IdiocracyFoxNews.gif

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 01:57 PM
Looks like you're admitting defeat ... no place to go but between your own legs.

Can't engage in the thread so this is how cowards handle defeat?

Perhaps, you two ought wrestle over it or have a shootout, yeh? :roflmao:

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:57 PM
I could do, yeh, but that wouldn't be nearly as fun as watching Americans degrade themselves. :D

It's an imported American Culture :laugh: ... check the history or ask them

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wYLLnRPHmV0/Ti3o15Z-r7I/AAAAAAAAAFY/Av8ZkuuyiDM/s1600/native_american_indian_six60.jpg

Cigar
03-03-2014, 01:59 PM
Perhaps, you two ought wrestle over it or have a shootout, yeh? :roflmao:

Hey DS ... you're on the internet

Peter1469
03-03-2014, 01:59 PM
Then why the Flight ... ? which flight?

Mister D
03-03-2014, 02:01 PM
Hey DS ... you're on the internet

6195

Mister D
03-03-2014, 02:02 PM
http://www.ballpoint.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/petard2.jpeg

Captain gettin' all Shakepearean on us!

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 02:02 PM
I have to say that this thread is bloody brilliant in all its glorious irony. From beginning to end it never fails to show the banality which has usurped the American political intelligentsia. Bravo!


http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3581/3844287305_c8715235b2_o.gif

Idiocracy reference - Awesome!

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 02:04 PM
Racist photo's that are now appearing on Breitbart•com


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh0pfkqCcAAfebD.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh0pK8uCIAA7O3F.jpg

Gotta love those Big Tent Conservatives :laugh:

Sorry ... if the Internet isn't your Friend

https://twitter.com/Green_Footballs (http://twitter.com/Green_Footballs)

Which is why nobody but idiots takes Brietbart seriously.

Brietbart and thinkprogress. Both idiocy.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 02:04 PM
It's an imported American Culture :laugh: ... check the history or ask them

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wYLLnRPHmV0/Ti3o15Z-r7I/AAAAAAAAAFY/Av8ZkuuyiDM/s1600/native_american_indian_six60.jpg

Is this supposed to mean something to me? Ha-ha-ha, thick Yanks. I feel about as guilty for your massacre of the natives as I do Bacon's Rebellion. It's called ancient history, mate, and assuredly not mine.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 02:07 PM
Is this supposed to mean something to me? Ha-ha-ha, thick Yanks. I feel about as guilty for your massacre of the natives as I do Bacon's Rebellion. It's called ancient history, mate, and assuredly not mine.

One post talks about the constitution and another talks about ancient history :laugh:

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 02:09 PM
One post talks about the constitution and another talks about ancient history :laugh:

I'm sorry but do you honestly not realise that your Constitution is your active charter for political legitimacy? Gads, what do they teach in your schools these days?!


:roflmao:

Cigar
03-03-2014, 02:10 PM
6195

Looks like your Shorts aren't high enough sport :laugh:

http://thegrio.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ali-champion.jpg?w=512

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 02:10 PM
I officially LOVE Americans. Please, do keep this thread alive. The Constitution is an "ancient document" says our resident political expert. Priceless!

http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1351716727917874_animate.gif

Cigar
03-03-2014, 02:12 PM
I'm sorry but do you honestly not realise that your Constitution is your active charter for political legitimacy? Gads, what do they teach in your schools these days?!


:roflmao:

They teach us not to take any shit from pussies ... or drink Tea from little Bitches :laugh:

Cigar
03-03-2014, 02:13 PM
I officially LOVE Americans. Please, do keep this thread alive. The Constitution is an "ancient document" says our resident political expert. Priceless!

http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1351716727917874_animate.gif

Looks ... it's Round :laugh:

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608032627460604705&w=380&h=366&c=7&rs=1&qlt=80&pid=1.7

Cigar
03-03-2014, 02:14 PM
here’s a type of faux scandal that’s been happening … well, I haven’t exactly kept track, but it seems like there’s a new one every month or two. They all fit this pattern: President Obama does something that symbolically asserts his status as president, and the right-wing press gets outraged by how he’s “disrespecting” something-or-other related to the presidency. So, for example, in January, 2010 this photo caused FoxNation.com to ask whether Obama was “disrespecting the Oval Office” by putting his feet up on the antique desk.

http://weeklysift.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/20e04-cannon3.jpg

Of course, it didn’t take long to uncover similar photos of previous presidents, none of which had raised any particular outrage at the time. But everybody forgot again, and so we had an almost identical flap last September. “This just makes me furious,” one woman tweeted. “He was raised so badly.”


Other such “scandals” involve the First Lady: Did you know that Michelle had the audacity to wear an expensive gown to a recent state dinner, like first ladies have been doing, well, forever? Compare to this 2005 WaPo column in which Laura Bush is said to look “regal” — and that’s a compliment. Until 2009, the First Lady was supposed to look regal. Remember Jackie Kennedy? But when Michelle dresses up, she’s Marie Antoinette.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/10/article-2084579-0F661D2F00000578-546_306x372.jpg

Or remember last May when marines held umbrellas over President Obama (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/17/even-obamas-umbrellas-are-a-scandal-now/) and visiting Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan. Horrors! He’s treating our revered warriors like servants! How dare he! It was front-page news.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/files/2013/05/NY_NYP.jpg (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/17/even-obamas-umbrellas-are-a-scandal-now/)

http://freakoutnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bush_brella-218x250.jpg (http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/17/umbrella-gate-sarah-palin-most-americans-hold-their-own-umbrellas-except-for-every-other-president/)


Once again, it wasn’t too hard to find similar photos of previous presidents (http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/17/umbrella-gate-sarah-palin-most-americans-hold-their-own-umbrellas-except-for-every-other-president/), like this one of the first President Bush, which wasn’t front-page news — or any kind of outrage at all.


Even the Obamas’ Christmas cards became an issue (http://spydersden.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/fox-news-and-the-white-house-christmas-card/). This one, from 2011, disrespects the Christian holiday because it is secular and features the president’s dog:

http://spydersden.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/wh-christmas-card-2011.jpg?w=448&h=261 (http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/no-christmas-in-white-house-holiday-card.html)But this one, from the Bushes in 2005, is fine.

http://www.whitehouseholidays.com/whhimages/800/4446.jpg
I could go on and on. Whenever President Obama acts like the President of the United States, or the Obamas act like the First Family, it just looks wrong to a lot of people.

So here’s the $64,000 question: Is that racist? It depends on what you think racist means. Conservatives will not only answer the question “No”, they’ll be insulted that you even raised it (and will probably launch into their canned everybody-who-disagrees-with-Obama-is-a-racist-to-you-people riff). That’s because conservatives have adopted a very restricted definition of racism: Racism is conscious hatred towards people of another race.


So, those white folks who didn’t even notice when Reagan’s or JFK’s feet were on the desk, but who see Obama’s and think “He was raised so badly.” — are they also secretly thinking “Who does that uppity nigger think he is, acting like he’s a real president or something?” Maybe a few here or there, but mostly no. They aren’t consciously hating Obama because he’s black. But they can’t look at a black president the same way they looked at the 43 white presidents. Things just look different when Obama does them.

What do you call that?


Lopez uses the word “racism” for most of the possible meanings, and differentiates with adjectives. Here are some of the ones he finds:




racism-as-hate. The most restrictive definition, and the most comforting for whites. “For the public at large, racism-as-hate provides self-protecting clarity: if racists are like those in the 1950s who screamed at black school children and burned crosses, then most everyone can safely conclude that they, at least, are not racists. … Since conservatives on the Supreme Court adopted a malice conception of racism in 1979, when using this approach the Court has rejected every claim of discrimination against nonwhites brought before it.”
structural or institutional racism. This is racial injustice that seems to be the fault of nobody in particular, because it’s embedded in the way society works. Vicious cycles (like poverty leading to dysfunctional behavior which leads back to poverty) may trace back to past sins like slavery or Jim Crow, but now they are self-replicating. “Structural racism is racism without racists. All that said, precisely because institutional racism implies a need to change society, it was rejected long ago by conservatives, including those on the Supreme Court who repudiated this understanding of racism in the early 1970s.”
implicit bias. This is the it-just-looks-different response I have been describing, or the kind that shows up in Implicit Association Test (https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html) you can take online.
commonsense racism. “The social world through which we move reflects centuries of racism that extends right up to the present. But this is hard to grasp in its particulars. Instead, we see clearly only the results, and with the underlying causes hidden, we tend to accept the extant world as a testament to the implacable truth of racial stereotypes.” The commonsense racists “are not hate-filled bigots but decent folks who see racial injustice as a normal feature of society. … For many, it simply seems ‘true,’ an unquestioned matter of commonsense, that blacks prefer welfare to work, that undocumented immigrants breed crime, and that Islam spawns violence.”
strategic racism. New appeals to racial prejudice and new rationalizations for racial injustice don’t create themselves. When the old racial manipulations stop working, somebody figures out new ones. “Strategic racism refers to purposeful efforts to use racial animus as leverage to gain material wealth, political power, or heightened social standing. … [B]ecause strategic racism is strategic, it is not fundamentally about race. … [S]trategic racists act out of avarice rather than animus.”

http://weeklysift.com/2014/02/17/what-should-racism-mean/


...and now the typical outrage.



Why are the Cowards Running from the Original Thread ... ? :laugh:

Mister D
03-03-2014, 02:15 PM
They teach us not to take any shit from pussies ... or drink Tea from little Bitches :laugh:

Oh please...you watched Roots and played basketball in between episodes. :laugh:

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 02:17 PM
They teach us not to take any shit from pussies ... or drink Tea from little Bitches :laugh:

Ha-ha-ha. Drink Tea from little Bitches? Does that make any sense in this world grammatically or otherwise? Do keep up the good work, I am vastly entertained! :roflmao:

http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/Movie+is+Idiocracy+and+_d84eed466a2e3dfe31b06ba6f9 0236d7.jpg

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 02:19 PM
Looks ... it's Round :laugh:




Looks...its Round?

Another classic! :roflmao:

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 02:20 PM
Why are the Cowards Running from the Original Thread ... ? :laugh:

Perhaps, because you've taken your own thread so far off topic with sexual and violent innuendos that it's become pure ecstasy for those who value reading lunacy?

Cigar
03-03-2014, 02:23 PM
Oh please...you watched Roots and played basketball in between episodes. :laugh:

Having trouble engaging in a Adult Debate :laugh:

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 02:26 PM
Having trouble engaging in a Adult Debate :laugh:

http://www.thenamesponyboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/20-Beauty-and-the-Beast.jpg

GrassrootsConservative
03-03-2014, 02:32 PM
Having trouble engaging in a Adult Debate :laugh:

Having trouble with proper English?

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 02:33 PM
Ha-ha-ha. Drink Tea from little Bitches? Does that make any sense in this world grammatically or otherwise? Do keep up the good work, I am vastly entertained! :roflmao:

http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/Movie+is+Idiocracy+and+_d84eed466a2e3dfe31b06ba6f9 0236d7.jpg

That's one of the all-time funniest segments ever.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 02:35 PM
That's one of the all-time funniest segments ever.

No, no, you give this forum too little credit. I have already sent mail to my mates and directed them to give it a read. This entire thread is a winner.

GrassrootsConservative
03-03-2014, 02:43 PM
Benghazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :deadhorse: (http://soundcloud.com/rockymountainmike/right-wing-troll-notification)

If Benghazi is beating a dead horse than what do you call people still bitching about "racism" in 2014?

Cigar
03-03-2014, 02:44 PM
If Benghazi is beating a dead horse than what do you call people still bitching about "racism" in 2014?

Winning ... :grin:

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 02:46 PM
No, no, you give this forum too little credit. I have already sent mail to my mates and directed them to give it a read. This entire thread is a winner.

No - LOL!, I meant the Brawndo scene.

GrassrootsConservative
03-03-2014, 02:46 PM
Winning ... :grin:

So there is no "racism," unless it's coming from blacks.

Thanks.

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 02:49 PM
Winning ... :grin:

http://www.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Charlie-Sheen-Winning-Poster.jpg

GrassrootsConservative
03-03-2014, 02:51 PM
http://www.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Charlie-Sheen-Winning-Poster.jpg

Needs more blackface.

/Edit: N sum co'nrows.

Peter1469
03-03-2014, 02:57 PM
I have been in places in England 1000 years older than @Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294)'s ancient document.


I officially LOVE Americans. Please, do keep this thread alive. The Constitution is an "ancient document" says our resident political expert. Priceless!

Cigar
03-03-2014, 03:03 PM
Needs more blackface.

/Edit: N sum co'nrows.

When you can't engage ... do what you do best :laugh:

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 03:09 PM
When you can't engage ... do what you do best :laugh:

Insert appropriate critique and photographic illustrations?

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/122531/full/tumblr_mcfh7zkJ5L1rtmmaxo1_400.gif


Ha-ha-ha :laugh:


Where is Gerrard Winstanley when we all need him now?

Captain Obvious
03-03-2014, 03:12 PM
Insert appropriate critique and photographic illustrations?

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/122531/full/tumblr_mcfh7zkJ5L1rtmmaxo1_400.gif


Ha-ha-ha :laugh:


Where is @Gerrard Winstanley (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=864) when we all need him now?

Probably baitin'

http://www.technologytell.com/entertainment/files/2013/01/idiocracy3.jpg

Germanicus
03-03-2014, 04:29 PM
For a minute there I thought this was one of @Germanicus (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=768) 's threads.

Yeah, its like - will this ever end? Or- Im not reading that. (: Cigars stuff is usually short.

Rebel Son
03-03-2014, 05:46 PM
When you can't engage ... do what you do best :laugh:

Personally I'd call the National Negro College fund and ask for a hand out. What do you do?

Cigar
03-03-2014, 05:50 PM
here’s a type of faux scandal that’s been happening … well, I haven’t exactly kept track, but it seems like there’s a new one every month or two. They all fit this pattern: President Obama does something that symbolically asserts his status as president, and the right-wing press gets outraged by how he’s “disrespecting” something-or-other related to the presidency. So, for example, in January, 2010 this photo caused FoxNation.com to ask whether Obama was “disrespecting the Oval Office” by putting his feet up on the antique desk.

http://weeklysift.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/20e04-cannon3.jpg

Of course, it didn’t take long to uncover similar photos of previous presidents, none of which had raised any particular outrage at the time. But everybody forgot again, and so we had an almost identical flap last September. “This just makes me furious,” one woman tweeted. “He was raised so badly.”


Other such “scandals” involve the First Lady: Did you know that Michelle had the audacity to wear an expensive gown to a recent state dinner, like first ladies have been doing, well, forever? Compare to this 2005 WaPo column in which Laura Bush is said to look “regal” — and that’s a compliment. Until 2009, the First Lady was supposed to look regal. Remember Jackie Kennedy? But when Michelle dresses up, she’s Marie Antoinette.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/10/article-2084579-0F661D2F00000578-546_306x372.jpg

Or remember last May when marines held umbrellas over President Obama (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/17/even-obamas-umbrellas-are-a-scandal-now/) and visiting Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan. Horrors! He’s treating our revered warriors like servants! How dare he! It was front-page news.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/files/2013/05/NY_NYP.jpg (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/17/even-obamas-umbrellas-are-a-scandal-now/)

http://freakoutnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bush_brella-218x250.jpg (http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/17/umbrella-gate-sarah-palin-most-americans-hold-their-own-umbrellas-except-for-every-other-president/)


Once again, it wasn’t too hard to find similar photos of previous presidents (http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/17/umbrella-gate-sarah-palin-most-americans-hold-their-own-umbrellas-except-for-every-other-president/), like this one of the first President Bush, which wasn’t front-page news — or any kind of outrage at all.


Even the Obamas’ Christmas cards became an issue (http://spydersden.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/fox-news-and-the-white-house-christmas-card/). This one, from 2011, disrespects the Christian holiday because it is secular and features the president’s dog:

http://spydersden.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/wh-christmas-card-2011.jpg?w=448&h=261 (http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/no-christmas-in-white-house-holiday-card.html)But this one, from the Bushes in 2005, is fine.

http://www.whitehouseholidays.com/whhimages/800/4446.jpg
I could go on and on. Whenever President Obama acts like the President of the United States, or the Obamas act like the First Family, it just looks wrong to a lot of people.

So here’s the $64,000 question: Is that racist? It depends on what you think racist means. Conservatives will not only answer the question “No”, they’ll be insulted that you even raised it (and will probably launch into their canned everybody-who-disagrees-with-Obama-is-a-racist-to-you-people riff). That’s because conservatives have adopted a very restricted definition of racism: Racism is conscious hatred towards people of another race.


So, those white folks who didn’t even notice when Reagan’s or JFK’s feet were on the desk, but who see Obama’s and think “He was raised so badly.” — are they also secretly thinking “Who does that uppity nigger think he is, acting like he’s a real president or something?” Maybe a few here or there, but mostly no. They aren’t consciously hating Obama because he’s black. But they can’t look at a black president the same way they looked at the 43 white presidents. Things just look different when Obama does them.

What do you call that?


Lopez uses the word “racism” for most of the possible meanings, and differentiates with adjectives. Here are some of the ones he finds:




racism-as-hate. The most restrictive definition, and the most comforting for whites. “For the public at large, racism-as-hate provides self-protecting clarity: if racists are like those in the 1950s who screamed at black school children and burned crosses, then most everyone can safely conclude that they, at least, are not racists. … Since conservatives on the Supreme Court adopted a malice conception of racism in 1979, when using this approach the Court has rejected every claim of discrimination against nonwhites brought before it.”
structural or institutional racism. This is racial injustice that seems to be the fault of nobody in particular, because it’s embedded in the way society works. Vicious cycles (like poverty leading to dysfunctional behavior which leads back to poverty) may trace back to past sins like slavery or Jim Crow, but now they are self-replicating. “Structural racism is racism without racists. All that said, precisely because institutional racism implies a need to change society, it was rejected long ago by conservatives, including those on the Supreme Court who repudiated this understanding of racism in the early 1970s.”
implicit bias. This is the it-just-looks-different response I have been describing, or the kind that shows up in Implicit Association Test (https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html) you can take online.
commonsense racism. “The social world through which we move reflects centuries of racism that extends right up to the present. But this is hard to grasp in its particulars. Instead, we see clearly only the results, and with the underlying causes hidden, we tend to accept the extant world as a testament to the implacable truth of racial stereotypes.” The commonsense racists “are not hate-filled bigots but decent folks who see racial injustice as a normal feature of society. … For many, it simply seems ‘true,’ an unquestioned matter of commonsense, that blacks prefer welfare to work, that undocumented immigrants breed crime, and that Islam spawns violence.”
strategic racism. New appeals to racial prejudice and new rationalizations for racial injustice don’t create themselves. When the old racial manipulations stop working, somebody figures out new ones. “Strategic racism refers to purposeful efforts to use racial animus as leverage to gain material wealth, political power, or heightened social standing. … [B]ecause strategic racism is strategic, it is not fundamentally about race. … [S]trategic racists act out of avarice rather than animus.”

http://weeklysift.com/2014/02/17/what-should-racism-mean/


...and now the typical outrage.

Looks like people here can't handle the original post :laugh:

Rebel Son
03-03-2014, 06:16 PM
Looks like people here can't handle the original post :laugh:

Actually, I think they find it your usual style of race baiting and quite comical. Do you look like Richard Pryor? He was funny as hell, you not so much.

Paperback Writer
03-03-2014, 06:17 PM
Looks like people here can't handle the original post :laugh:

Too funny since you were the one who trolled your own original post. :roflmao:

Keep up the good work, the OP was shit anyway.

Rebel Son
03-03-2014, 06:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE1BtHN5VCM

Akula
03-03-2014, 06:52 PM
It would be nice if you bothered to read the Snowden report and then you might have some background on when the worst of the offences took place and who was in charge of your government at the time.

Still, I see you have no understanding of how quickly this may all be resolved by your chief executive officer, ie "the President of the United States" with a pen.

For your edification, Congress funds government and writes the laws. The Executive branch executes them. If Obama wished he would simply fire a few people and change the rules of the programmes. He is a giant coward who acts as if he does not have this power, a constitutional scholar he is not, and throws it upon the fires of your Congress to do what he refuses.

Of course, he knows full well that they will continue to parlay and never do a thing about it. That's the beauty of passing the buck and partisan group think. You really believe that he'd love to do something about it all but can't. I'm not sure whether to laugh or weep at your poor education on the topic.

You're arguing with a (paid) internet agent provocateur/shill.
They just post the daily links/opinions/slogans that their handlers tell them to push that day.
You'll never get anything like honest debate from that one. Superficial and shallow.

Cigar
03-03-2014, 06:55 PM
Too funny since you were the one who trolled your own original post. :roflmao:

Keep up the good work, the OP was shit anyway.

I responded to diversions ... so you're right, I shouldn't have.

But I'm use to people on this forum who are afraid to confront the truth.

Usually when that happens, the Thread gets move or closed.

The Sage of Main Street
03-04-2014, 04:37 PM
Right. Samuel Colt said that God made man. I made man equal.
People like Colt made George Zimmerman equal to a hot-headed, sucker-punching, Mixed Martial Arts mugger.