Really Good News for The GOP: Report: Minimum wage hike would cut food stamp spending

[Cigar]

Report: Minimum wage hike would cut food stamp spending by $4.6 billion a year:applause:

Raising the minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 an hour would reduce federal food stamp spending by $4.6 billion a year, according to a report to be released Wednesday by the liberal-leaning Center for American Progress.

The proposal, a top legislative priority for President Obama and congressional Democrats, would reduce enrollment in the food stamp program by as much as 9.2 percent, the report said.

A report last month from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said about 15 percent of the nation’s workforce would see wages rise under Obama’s plan to raise the minimum wage, adding that the increase would lift 900,000 people out of poverty.



Read more: http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/report-minimum-wage-hike-would-cut-food-stamp-spending-by-46-billion-a-year/2014/03/04/150e4bfa-a3db-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html?tid=HP_business



I can see the GOP doing Back Flips over The Food Stamp President cutting Food Stamp Spending :grin:

[Paperback Writer]

I'm sure they would reduce taxes directly after. Ha-ha. I'm kidding you'd keep the money and buy more bombs with it.

Amerrrika Fuck Yeh!

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[Codename Section]

You're on a roll.

[Max Rockatansky]

Raising the minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 an hour would reduce federal food stamp spending by $4.6 billion a year, according to a report to be released Wednesday by the liberal-leaning Center for American Progress.

A very narrow report which neglects to mention the CBO report which states that raising the minimum wage would pull 900,000 Americans above the poverty line (temporarily, at least) while costing 500,000 Americans their jobs causing a rise in unemployment and, you guessed it, more people on unemployment.

[patrickt]

I suppose Cigar believes the Washington Post and the left-leaning propaganda mill Center for American Progress(ives). Hell, he believe President Obama.

Poor Paperback, he's doing the best he can, poor thing. Envy is a harsh mistress but the Brits lover a harsh mistress.

[Max Rockatansky]

I suppose Cigar believes the Washington Post and the left-leaning propaganda mill Center for American Progress(ives). Hell, he believe President Obama.

Poor Paperback, he's doing the best he can, poor thing. Envy is a harsh mistress but the Brits lover a harsh mistress.

I've heard they are into the S&M thing and also paraphilic infantilism.

http://www.modernmedicaldictionary.com/2012-2/2012-3/june-2012/16-20-june-2012/
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[Paperback Writer]

Poor Paperback, he's doing the best he can, poor thing. Envy is a harsh mistress but the Brits lover a harsh mistress.

I don't envy your grammar, that's for certain.

[Max Rockatansky]

I don't envy your grammar, that's for certain.

Brits make the best Grammar Nazis

http://atcartlidge.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/prince2520harry2520nazi1.jpg?w=470

[Paperback Writer]

I've heard they are into the S&M thing and also paraphilic infantilism.

http://www.modernmedicaldictionary.com/2012-2/2012-3/june-2012/16-20-june-2012/
http://www.modernmedicaldictionary.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/infantilism_paraphilic.jpg

AmazonTania and Gerrard Winstanley

Let us dissect this abysmal display of petulant retort. It isn't witty. It isn't cheeky. It isn't even droll. It's just a man in a nappy.

Perhaps, one of you could insult me so that they could see how it is really done? I'd even stand for Captain Obvious to meme me.

[nic34]

A higher minimum wage puts the responsibility where it belongs, on the employer and not the government.

[AmazonTania]

A higher minimum wage puts the responsibility where it belongs, on the employer and not the government.

Yeah, that's obviously worked...

How many minimum wage increases have you had since 1960?

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fredgraph.png?g=sIO

[Paperback Writer]

A higher minimum wage puts the responsibility where it belongs, on the employer and not the government.

If the responsibility is not on the government how ought it to enforce minimum wage?

[Cigar]

Really Chaps The Righty's Ass :laugh:

[Paperback Writer]

Really Chaps The Righty's Ass :laugh:

Why are you so concerned about asses and dicks?

[Akula]

Report: Minimum wage hike would cut food stamp spending by $4.6 billion a year

:applause:

Raising the minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 an hour would reduce federal food stamp spending by $4.6 billion a year, according to a report to be released Wednesday by the liberal-leaning Center for American Progress.

The proposal, a top legislative priority for President Obama and congressional Democrats, would reduce enrollment in the food stamp program by as much as 9.2 percent, the report said.

A report last month from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said about 15 percent of the nation’s workforce would see wages rise under Obama’s plan to raise the minimum wage, adding that the increase would lift 900,000 people out of poverty.



Read more: http://m.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/report-minimum-wage-hike-would-cut-food-stamp-spending-by-46-billion-a-year/2014/03/04/150e4bfa-a3db-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html?tid=HP_business



I can see the GOP doing Back Flips over The Food Stamp President cutting Food Stamp Spending :grin:



Let's do the math;

If raising it $2.85 "saves" 4.6 billion and "reduces enrollment" in food stamps by 9.2% and "raises" 900,000 out of poverty, let's go further;

Let's raise it to 21.30 per hour.

That way we could "save" over 20 billion on food stamp spending.

We would "reduce" enrollment in the program by 36%.

...and would "lift" over 36 million out of poverty.

Why didn't we think of this before! This is GREAT!


Hell, let's raise the minimum wage to $50.00..NO! $75.00 per hour!

We could start to pay down our deficit...LMMFAO.....

[Cigar]

Small Business - 101

No Customers ... No Business

[patrickt]

Cigar has had so much Kool-Aid that he thinks food stamps are linked somehow to income. Poor thing.

[Cigar]

Cigar has had so much Kool-Aid that he thinks food stamps are linked somehow to income. Poor thing.

Lack of it sure leads to it ... look it up sport :grin:

[Paperback Writer]

Lack of it sure leads to it ... look it up sport :grin:

Lack of food stamps leads to income?

[AmazonTania]

Considering that transfer payments are calculated as a part of personal income...

No... No it doesn't.

[Cigar]

Lack of food stamps leads to income?

I tell you what ... how about you experiment with no income for a while and try to Eat

Get back to us on your findings

[AmazonTania]

I tell you what ... how about you experiment with no income for a while and try to Eat

Get back to us on your findings

How is it possible for you to know that SNAP benefits have work requirements.

Unless you are suggesting these people are working for free. In which case, your nonsensical slave statement would make some sort of sense.

[Paperback Writer]

I tell you what ... how about you experiment with no income for a while and try to Eat

Get back to us on your findings

You were the one with the posit that if you have no food stamps you'll have income. I'm sure this is some sort of theoretical mathematics you've learnt. I was just hoping you'd explain it somehow.

[Cigar]

Lack of it (INCOME) sure leads to it (FOOD-STAMPS) ... look it up sport :grin:

:rollseyes:

[Akula]

Cigar has had so much Kool-Aid that he thinks food stamps are linked somehow to income. Poor thing.

No he doesn't. He's not that stupid. I'm not fooled one bit.
He's just doing his internet job to agitate and push the DNC line on as many sites as possible each day. There are a couple of shills in here. They aren't subtle. :)

[Paperback Writer]

No he doesn't. He's not that stupid. I'm not fooled one bit.
He's just doing his internet job to agitate and push the DNC line on as many sites as possible each day. There are a couple of shills in here. They aren't subtle. :)

I'm sure the amazing amount of traffic on here justifies it. :rollseyes:

[Captain Obvious]

I'm sure the amazing amount of traffic on here justifies it. :rollseyes:

Generic insecurity rhetoric = "If you don't agree with me, you must be a shill".

[Mainecoons]

Generic insecurity rhetoric = "If you don't agree with me, you must be a shill".

Not really. It is not about disagreeing with someone who makes a sincere attempt to present their case. Look around you, we have these sorts of discussions with some liberals on this board all the time.

You can't disagree with morons like Exo or trolls like Cigar. There's simply not enough intellectual content to discuss, let alone agree or disagree with.

[Captain Obvious]

Not really. It is not about disagreeing with someone who makes a sincere attempt to present their case. Look around you, we have these sorts of discussions with some liberals on this board all the time.

You can't disagree with morons like Exo or trolls like Cigar. There's simply not enough intellectual content to discuss, let alone agree or disagree with.

Yeah, but this guy is a classic "why does everyone pick on me" personality type (mixed with anger and hatred).

[Mainecoons]

OK, I'm speaking generalities. I see your point.

[Akula]

I'm sure the amazing amount of traffic on here justifies it. :rollseyes:

Wait...you think it doesn't happen?..or do you think they only work one site?



It's like a drive by shooting...roll up, spray some random (purposely inflammatory) remarks either about how great "their" party/pols/supporters are or how horrible the "other" party/politicians/supporters are and run off.

That's why the (most) obvious ones never stick around to discuss or debate honestly. They don't have the time or interest in the subject outside of meeting their quota.

[Cigar]

I think some of these people need a private room ... :jackoff:

[Akula]

Yeah, but this guy is a classic "why does everyone pick on me" personality type (mixed with anger and hatred).

Interesting. I don't see paperback writer that way at all.

[Paperback Writer]

Wait...you think it doesn't happen?..or do you think they only work one site?



It's like a drive by shooting...roll up, spray some random (purposely inflammatory) remarks either about how great "their" party/pols/supporters are or how horrible the "other" party/politicians/supporters are and run off.

That's why the (most) obvious ones never stick around to discuss or debate honestly. They don't have the time or interest in the subject outside of meeting their quota.

I have no doubt that the large forums have paid provocateurs and shills, but this is not that.

[Akula]

I have no doubt that the large forums have paid provocateurs and shills, but this is not that.

To be clear;
Your position is that paid agents only work "large" forums and they only work one at a time?
C'mon, man.

[Paperback Writer]

Interesting. I don't see paperback writer that way at all.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kDb9-ZYmeYs/Tw3pbHC166I/AAAAAAAAJ5M/IGB3LQjEBjA/s1600/interested+cat.jpg

[Max Rockatansky]

Small Business - 101

No Customers ... No Business

Good. Now take the next step:

Prices too high...Less Customers.
Less Customers....Less need for employees.

[Paperback Writer]

To be clear;
Your position is that paid agents only work "large" forums and they only work one at a time?
C'mon, man.

My position is that paid agents only work large forums because otherwise would be a waste of money and time. I don't delve into the paranoia so far that I believe someone would actually spend money to advocate for anything besides porn on a forum as small as this one.

[Akula]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kDb9-ZYmeYs/Tw3pbHC166I/AAAAAAAAJ5M/IGB3LQjEBjA/s1600/interested+cat.jpg

Profound.

I guess.

[Captain Obvious]

My position is that paid agents only work large forums because otherwise would be a waste of money and time. I don't delve into the paranoia so far that I believe someone would actually spend money to advocate for anything besides porn on a forum as small as this one.

We had a couple of shills here - one I sort of know personally. He has an account here but haven't seen him for a couple years, reason being was the activity.

USMessageBoards has a shitload of activity, a shills paradise, I think that's where he spends his time.

[Max Rockatansky]

I have no doubt that the large forums have paid provocateurs and shills, but this is not that.

If they do, it's much more effective to plant paid employees to act like assholes, bullies and extremists for the opposition, not the party faithful.

[The Xl]

Keep inflating the currency and devaluing the dollar, that's worked so well.

[Cigar]

Good. Now take the next step:

Prices too high...Less Customers.
Less Customers....Less need for employees.

Prices being too his is only a problem if you're the only business in town.

Competition takes care of that.

If you don't have many customer coming through your door, maybe you should check your product rather than blame the employees salary.

[Cigar]

Keep inflating the currency and devaluing the dollar, that's worked so well.

What if you're trading :laugh:

[Captain Obvious]

Keep inflating the currency and devaluing the dollar, that's worked so well.

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[The Xl]

What if you're trading :laugh:

I don't think anyone on minimum wage is engaging in those sorts of endeavors.

[Mainecoons]

Keep inflating the currency and devaluing the dollar, that's worked so well.

Actually it has. Because the day of reckoning for those kinds of policies doesn't creep up on you, it tends to happen with a bang.

One day a critical mass of the folks figure out what you've been doing and that your currency is a bunch of worthless paper. Then--BANG!

[The Xl]

Actually it has. Because the day of reckoning for those kinds of policies doesn't creep up on you, it tends to happen with a bang.

One day a critical mass of the folks figure out what you've been doing and that your currency is a bunch of worthless paper. Then--BANG!

Do they ever figure it out though? They keep crying for the same policies that put them in the spot they're in.

[Mainecoons]

No, history tells us they never do. So for those of us who understand history and where these policies lead, it is best to prepare for it.

Buy gold.

[Max Rockatansky]

We had a couple of shills here - one I sort of know personally. He has an account here but haven't seen him for a couple years, reason being was the activity.

USMessageBoards has a shitload of activity, a shills paradise, I think that's where he spends his time.

I've been in USMB. It's leans hard right. Is he a LW or RW shill and does he post Left or Right?

[The Sage of Main Street]

A higher minimum wage puts the responsibility where it belongs, on the employer and not the government.

No, mandatory unionization is better. There'd be no need for a minimum wage if the employees themselves had the power to tell a Capitalist parasite what he must pay or lose his whole investment.

[The Xl]

No, mandatory unionization is better. There'd be no need for a minimum wage if the employees themselves had the power to tell a Capitalist parasite what he must pay or lose his whole investment.

You and people like you are the parasites.

[Paperback Writer]

No, mandatory unionization is better. There'd be no need for a minimum wage if the employees themselves had the power to tell a Capitalist parasite what he must pay or lose his whole investment.

If they had that much ambition they'd simply organize into a cooperative business.

[The Sage of Main Street]

Let's do the math;

If raising it $2.85 "saves" 4.6 billion and "reduces enrollment" in food stamps by 9.2% and "raises" 900,000 out of poverty, let's go further;

Let's raise it to 21.30 per hour.

That way we could "save" over 20 billion on food stamp spending.

We would "reduce" enrollment in the program by 36%.

...and would "lift" over 36 million out of poverty.

Why didn't we think of this before! This is GREAT!


Hell, let's raise the minimum wage to $50.00..NO! $75.00 per hour!

We could start to pay down our deficit..

No worse than the plutocratic parasites raising the CEO's salary to 457 times that of his lowest-paid worker.

[Max Rockatansky]

Prices being too his is only a problem if you're the only business in town.

Competition takes care of that.

Please stay awake in class. Competition helps keep prices down between businesses, but you are forgetting those are not people's only alternatives. Why pay $10/meal at McDonalds if it's cheaper, $40 for a family of four, to eat at home? They can have two whole chickens, a bag of potatoes and several cans of vegetables for $20. That's a considerable savings over a month. How many jobs would be saved if more people ate at home?

[Captain Obvious]

You and people like you are the parasites.

Except they're feeding gluttonous power special interests, not common working people.

[The Sage of Main Street]

No he doesn't. He's not that stupid. I'm not fooled one bit.
He's just doing his internet job to agitate and push the DNC line on as many sites as possible each day. There are a couple of shills in here. They aren't subtle. :)

According to your persecution paranoia, how much does Cigar get paid by the DNC? I'm going to sue for the money they owe me for all my posts against the Greedhead Plute looters and the Wall Street street gang!

[Mainecoons]

The new math: Put a bunch more people out of work and welfare cost of food stamps will drop.

Sure it will.

These days when I look at D.C. and the people who inhabit it and mis-staff our government I am reminded of Alice in Wonderland and the Mad Hatter's Tea Party.

Just another reminder that you can't fix that government without wholesale replacement of both elected and senior bureaucracy.

[BB-35]

No worse than the plutocratic parasites raising the CEO's salary to 457 times that of his lowest-paid worker.

Awwwwwww,jealous?......

[Blackrook]

The cost of everything, includiing food, will go up if millions of people simultaneously get an artificial government imposed wage increase. Did the study factor that in? My guess is, no, they figured prices would remain the same.

[zelmo1234]

A higher minimum wage puts the responsibility where it belongs, on the employer and not the government.

And the responsible employers only have so much money for payroll. So someone is not going to have a job!

So are we going to say that anyone who looses their job because of the minimum wage increase will not be offered food stamps?

I guess I am for that!