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Libhater
03-06-2014, 04:34 PM
The choice between free market meritocracy and Big Government cronyism is illustrated by the contrast between
Apple and the solar maker Solyndra. Apple succeeded because of innovations that met market needs in new and
historic ways. Solyndra had an innovative product. But the main reason that it rose was the political connections
of a key financial backer--which helped the company get a $535 million government loan. The company's solar
technology, however, was too expensive. The company went belly-up, at the expense of the taxpayers.


Do Americans want an open meritocracy that produces job-creating innovators like Apple--or government-dominated
markets that give cronies like Solyndra unfair advantages and often taxpayers dollars? The end result of this kind of
favoritism: a slower-growing economy with less job creation. just ask people who have lived in the developing world
or in communist nations--from the former Soviet Union to Argentina--where a politically conncected aristocracy thrives
and everyone else suffers.

Freedom Manifesto by Steve Forbes and Elizabeth Ames

Green Arrow
03-06-2014, 04:40 PM
Apple supports Democrats, so Democrats can't be too bad for business.

AmazonTania
03-06-2014, 04:46 PM
If they let me get away with operating nearly Tax-Free, I'd vote for Democrats too.

nathanbforrest45
03-06-2014, 05:14 PM
Democrats or Republicans, it really doesn't matter. Both parties give money away like its theirs. When you have a donor with an unlimited supply of dollars they can steal from taxpayers some businesses will make money, mainly by driving out the competition that is not getting free dollars. When you can (1) drive away any threat and (2) not need to actually offer a product that anyone would be willing to spend money on then there is no way you won't make money. But you will do it at the expense of the country as a whole.

Blackrook
03-06-2014, 05:54 PM
Apple gets all sorts of free support from the Communist Chinese government to build their products in China, including access to an unlimited supply of slave labor. There is no free enterprise here.

Germanicus
03-06-2014, 08:13 PM
Apple gets all sorts of free support from the Communist Chinese government to build their products in China, including access to an unlimited supply of slave labor. There is no free enterprise here.

Yeah right. The CPC hate Apple. The CPC have targeted Apple on Consumer Rights and called the fuckers out for fixing Chinese iphones with second hand parts and overcharging in the Chinese market. Apple sales in China have tanked because of it.

Foxxcon is an Apple front and Apple could easily employ Americans and make more stuff in USA but they have no nationality. They are multinational not American.

And the amount of free promotion apple gets from US ruling class/western media is incredible. Almost seems manufactured and false right?

And doesnt it make you sick and suspicious how ridiculous people are about Steve Jobs and Bill Gates? Real capitalist heros those guys.. Just mentioning their name is enough to get a capitalist propagandist excited.

edit- I wish that our government would call Apple scum out on consumer rights here in Australia. Apple overcharges Australians like crazy. I hate apple/microsoft more than any other corporation. ( actually, I hate Qantas more )

Bill Gates works for capitalism.. And it works for him. His role is to roll around like Buffet or Daddy Warbucks or something and to give the public the impression that capitalism is good and fair and that capitalists are not scum that exploit others ruthlessly for personal gain but great and nice guys that create jobs and give money to charities. Bill Gates is going to hell and that is for sure. He is a very very evil man.

Do you even know about the troubles Apple has had in China? Many westerners do not because western media protects Apple.

nathanbforrest45
03-06-2014, 08:24 PM
Business is business. Just like there is no color other than green to a true businessman there is no border other than the corporation. In the 70's there was a movie entitled "Roller Ball". One of the scenes of the movie showed a "government meeting" with the Senator from IBM, the Representative from Microsoft and the governor from the Great State of Exxon. Well, you get the picture. Corporations climb into bed with government but like the whores they are are soon kicked out and discarded.

patrickt
03-07-2014, 07:15 AM
Apple supports Democrats, so Democrats can't be too bad for business.

That makes absolutely no sense. Apple, like unions, accepts that the Democrats are the best they can buy, that's all. Apple supports the Democrats because Apple depends on the government. Remember their "sort of feels like Apple" lawsuit? When Apple can't compete they want the Democrats to destroy their competition. And, as Apple recently revealed, they value liberal issues more than business.