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Cigar
03-07-2014, 10:29 AM
At the Conservative Political Action Conference on Thursday, Paul Ryan told a touching anecdote of a poor boy who said he didn't want a free lunch at school, but a brown bag one, because "a kid who had a brown paper bag had someone who cared for him." Though Ryan presented this as a modern tale of government dependence and family decline — people don't want "comfort," Ryan said, but "dignity" — the author of the book the story appears to be cribbed from says she met the kid in 1986.

"You know, this reminds me of a story I heard from Eloise Anderson," Ryan said, referring to a member of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's cabinet. He continued:


"She once met a young boy from a very poor family. And every day at school, he would get a free lunch from a government program. He told Eloise, he didn't want a free lunch. He wanted his own lunch, one in a brown paper bag, just like the other kids. He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid who had a brown paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand."

But as a Talking Points Memo commenter noticed (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul_ryan_free_lunch_means_parents_dont_care_for_k ids#comment-aHR0cCUzQS8vdGFsa2luZ3BvaW50c21lbW8uY29tL0VDSE8vaX RlbS8xMzk0MTMxNDAzLTkzOS04MjM=), the story appears to be cribbed from a 2011 book called An Invisible Thread. Author Laura Schroff says it's the story of her friendship with Maurice. Her website says, "We met on 56th street in Manhattan in 1986, when I was a 35-year-old single, successful ad sales executive, and he was an 11-year-old homeless panhandler." An except of the book:

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/newsroom/img/posts/2014/03/excerpt/226c41e7b.jpg


http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/03/paul-ryans-heartwrenching-story-about-hungry-kid-also-appears-heartwrenching-book/358902/

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Mainecoons
03-07-2014, 10:40 AM
"Appears to be...."

6240

Cigar
03-07-2014, 10:44 AM
Warning: Auto_Denial Activated

Mainecoons
03-07-2014, 10:53 AM
Talking points memo....

:rofl:

Cigar
03-07-2014, 10:56 AM
Ryan’s Free School Lunch ‘Horror’ Story Never Happened Source: TPM

Paul Ryan's Free School Lunch Story Never Actually Happened


Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) fired up the audience Thursday at the Conservative Political Action Conference with an anecdote about what he called the heartlessness of giving out free school lunches -- but it turns out that "moving (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/372704/paul-ryans-moving-story-explains-difference-between-hard-work-and-dependency-patrick)" story never really happened.

Ryan used a story about a young boy choosing a lovingly made brown bag lunch over a free school meal, relayed to him by Wisconsin Department of Children and Families Secretary Eloise Anderson, to illustrate that Democrats offer Americans a "full stomach and an empty soul."

But when Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler looked into that tale, he gave it "four pinocchios" because Anderson presented it out of context.

Kessler found Anderson told the story at a 2013 congressional hearing that Ryan chaired, and claimed she had spoken to the boy herself. Kessler notes her story closely paralleled an exchange from a book called "An Invisible Thread," in which an executive offers to either give a young, homeless panhandler money to eat for the week or else make lunch for him each day. The boy insists on having his lunch made for him in a brown-paper bag, because that means "somebody cares" about him.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul_ryan_school_lunch_never_happened


A story too good to check: Paul Ryan and the story of the brown paper bag


March 6 at 10:07 pm

“The left is making a big mistake here. What they’re offering people is a full stomach and an empty soul. The American people want more than that. This reminds me of a story I heard from Eloise Anderson. She serves in the cabinet of my buddy, Governor Scott Walker. She once met a young boy from a very poor family, and every day at school, he would get a free lunch from a government program. He told Eloise he didn’t want a free lunch. He wanted his own lunch, one in a brown-paper bag just like the other kids. He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid with a brown-paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand.”

–Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.), speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, March 6, 2014

This was an interesting statement made by the 2012 GOP vice presidential candidate, equating school lunches to an “empty soul.” So one would think the anecdote, described by the National Review as “moving,” would be rock-solid. But the story seemed a bit pat.

-snip-

The Pinocchio Test

Here at The Fact Checker, we often deal with situations in which people misspeak. We certainly don’t try to play gotcha. But this is a different order of magnitude. Anderson, in congressional testimony, represented that she spoke to this child—and then ripped the tale out of its original context. That’s certainly worthy of Four Pinocchios.

But what about Ryan? Should he get a pass because he heard this from a witness before Congress? It really depends on the circumstances. In this case, he referenced the story in a major speech. The burden always falls on the speaker and we believe politicians need to check the facts in any prepared remarks.

In this case, apparently, the story was too good to check. We appreciate he is regretful now. But a simple inquiry would have determined that the person telling the story actually is an advocate for the federal programs that Ryan now claims leaves people with “a full stomach and an empty soul.” So he also earns Four Pinocchios.

Four Pinocchios

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/03/06/a-story-too-good-to-check-paul-ryan-and-the-story-of-the-brown-paper-bag/

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Cigar
03-07-2014, 10:59 AM
'Brown bag' story by Paul Ryan at CPAC is from a novel written by a free lunch program supporter “The left is making a big mistake here. What they’re offering people is a full stomach and an empty soul. The American people want more than that. This reminds me of a story I heard from Eloise Anderson. She serves in the cabinet of my buddy, Governor Scott Walker. She once met a young boy from a very poor family, and every day at school, he would get a free lunch from a government program. He told Eloise he didn’t want a free lunch. He wanted his own lunch, one in a brown-paper bag just like the other kids. He wanted one, he said, because he knew a kid with a brown-paper bag had someone who cared for him. This is what the left does not understand.”
–Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.), speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, March 6, 2014

This was an interesting statement made by the 2012 GOP vice presidential candidate, equating school lunches to an “empty soul.” So one would think the anecdote, described by the National Review as “moving,” would be rock-solid. But the story seemed a bit pat.

Did Eloise Anderson, Secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Children and Families, ever meet such a child?

. . .

This actually seemed a little strange. Could the tale told in congressional testimony really be drawn from a book? It did not make much sense in part because Schroff and Mazyck are partnering with a group called No Kid Hungry to help end childhood hunger (http://www.nokidhungry.org/blog/press-media-release/2012/12/new-york-times-bestseller-invisible-thread-partners-share-our) in the United States. One key part of the program is connecting hungry kids with federal programs such as school lunches and food stamps.

. . Secretary Anderson was referring to a television interview which she had seen with Maurice Mazyck.


THE REST:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/03/06/a-story-too-good-to-check-paul-ryan-and-the-story-of-the-brown-paper-bag/



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Captain Obvious
03-07-2014, 11:00 AM
oops - late to this party

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Common
03-07-2014, 12:09 PM
This isnt the first time ryans been busted for lieing and misrepresenting someone else, hes a DB

Cigar
03-07-2014, 12:24 PM
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The Wash
03-07-2014, 12:43 PM
Paul Ryan's a bit of a tool.

KC
03-07-2014, 12:45 PM
Paul Ryan's a bit of a tool.

Tell me about it. I live in his district so I make a point to vote against him.

Cigar
03-07-2014, 02:49 PM
Ryan "apologizes" for lying
Once outed, Ryan issued an apology of sorts via his Facebook page: "I have just learned that Secretary Anderson misspoke, and that the story she told was improperly sourced. I regret failing to verify the original source of the story, but I appreciate her taking the time to share her insights."



Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-no-free-lunch-20140307,0,6101775.story#ixzz2vIiNOa5y


... ready set ... Benghazi ... if you like your Doctor, call Ryan :laugh:

Bob
03-07-2014, 03:00 PM
Ryan "apologizes" for lying


Once outed, Ryan issued an apology of sorts via his Facebook page: "I have just learned that Secretary Anderson misspoke, and that the story she told was improperly sourced. I regret failing to verify the original source of the story, but I appreciate her taking the time to share her insights."



Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-no-free-lunch-20140307,0,6101775.story#ixzz2vIiNOa5y


... ready set ... Benghazi ... if you like your Doctor, call Ryan :laugh:

That is just what I figured.

Ryan did not lie, he believed somebody else's story.